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#251 blues35301
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[QUOTE="agentfred"]

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]This game is good and all, but Crysis is sooo much better.BioShockOwnz

That still leaves room for a great game. ;)

Indeed. This game's great, but Crysis just feels a lot more cohesive.

lol its very reminiscent though. there was a time where i got spotted and they moved towards me and i literally held down the mouse wheel and moved in the direction of where cloak was on the crysis interface :lol: and i also miss my strength jump ontop of buildings lol

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#252 jaisimar_chelse
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[QUOTE="jaisimar_chelse"]

:lol: WTH this game doesnt even have lean/prone buttons.

so much for stealth being the important factor in a far cry game. :|

Zenkuso

Stealth pointless most the time anyway, you stealth kill someone and it alerts everyone anyway :P

not if you use silencers.

i remeber that silenced MP5 in far cry 1. using it didnt alert the enemies

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#253 blues35301
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yeah no prone or lean buttons was a disappointment for me as well. lets hope for mods or patches and hopefully a fix for the low mouse sensitivity
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#254 skrat_01
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Well ive been playing through it for over a couple of hours.

Its a great game, but its faults really do shine here and there.

In paticular - stealth is extremely difficult due to there being no indication of how well hidden you are - alot of the time its luck, enemies are extremely accurate, and blend in with the enviroment so well you have to rely on muzzle flash to find their locations (combat can get confusing), checkpoints are the most annoying thing yet - absolute pain having to deal with multiple ones, no lean makes cover focused combat a bit more of a chore than it should be (next to a game like stalker), and there are clear signs here and there that its a multiplat title (stuff like the monoculars super sensativity and off mouse control at times).

Its a great game so far though - and I have only just put my toes into the edges of the game, but so far thats what sticks out to me - faults wise.

That and the combat - although its very gritty (which is a really awesome style), its not as good as lets say, Crysis's.

The A.i. is superb though, even if its too accurate. Extremely beleivable squad tactics.

Oh and the audio is some of the best I have heard in a game. Sound is super important during combat.

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#255 jg4xchamp
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^^^^Damn now i suddenly want to buy it....say something mean about the game
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#256 jaisimar_chelse
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^^^^Damn now i suddenly want to buy it....say something mean about the gamejg4xchamp

it doesnt have lean/prone buttons nor does it have a stealth indicator

is that mean enuf :P

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#257 skrat_01
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^^^^Damn now i suddenly want to buy it....say something mean about the gamejg4xchamp
lol.

indeed that is me being nice.

The pros do exeed the cons though.

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#258 killerfist
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so I bought Far Cry 2 today

I will post my impressions later.

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#259 3picuri3
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impressions:

PROS

-well optimized

-gorgeous

-seamless transitional animations

-fire / tree / physics are great

-buddy system is great

CONS

-AI is dim at times

-shooting AI in the legs / arms has no impact on their ability to run like an olympic sprinter or shoot you like an olympic marksmen.

-the world is NOT open. i got to the top of a mountain in an attempt to approach an objective from high ground. i was rewarded with an invisible wall followed by a plunge beneath the map.

-nothing is persistent aside from buddy / certain npc kills. burn a field down, drive 1 minute down the road, come back and the fairies have put it back together and repainted the sheds

-buildings don't burn to the ground.

-diamond hunting is a bit weak

-collisions don't have the effect that GTAIV does, i.e. no impact physics. nail a boat at full speed and the gunner won't budge as the boat heaves up in the air

-weapon degrade is weak. 10 clips in an AK from fresh to dead - like they're made of plastic.

-world isn't as large as you'd think, 7x7km.

i'm still having fun, but it's definitely ripe with problems. it reminds me a lot of just cause, but with a fraction of the world size, no planes, no helis, less missions, less side-quests, less safe houses, no bond-like stunts, and a world that isn't truly open but more akin to a maze.

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#260 Floppy_Jim
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[QUOTE="Floppy_Jim"]

Goshdarnit, the PS3 version has a mandatory install-

http://www.ps3za.co.za/forum/showthread.php?t=13932

I was hoping the install would be optional or even non-existant. I'm choosing the PS3 version over the 360 because it has Trophies. It had better be, at the very least, slightly superior to the 360 version now I hear that there's an install. Nonetheless, my 320Gb hard drive says- "Bring it on, mother******".

ukillwegrill

Trophies? They're real?

Achivements > Trophies.

I disagree, I prefer Trophies at the moment because they're still a novelty. And I prefer how it's split into Bronze, Silver, Gold and Platinum compared to how it's done with Achievements.

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#261 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]^^^^Damn now i suddenly want to buy it....say something mean about the gamejaisimar_chelse

it doesnt have lean/prone buttons nor does it have a stealth indicator

is that mean enuf :P

no :(

[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]^^^^Damn now i suddenly want to buy it....say something mean about the gameskrat_01

lol.

indeed that is me being nice.

The pros do exeed the cons though.

So its really good....hmm i guess i have to give the game a shot
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#262 mo0ksi
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Well this is a bummer. I called EB Games, Future Shop, and Best Buy and neither carry the PC version. They have the 360 and PS3 versions, but not the version which happens to be the lead platform for the game.

I'll try again tomorrow I guess.

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#265 krp008
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I was one of those guys thinking this game would score nothing less that a 9.5. When i got it yesterday, i was completely disappointed from the starting intro by the lackluster graphics. The graphics remind me of PDZ, which isnt good. I understand that its a big world, but the graphics are even worse online... The controls arnt as fluid as Halo or COD, your controller only vibrates when you sprint (it doesnt if you shoot), AI is pretty stupid (i watched this driver back in and out of a spot for over 5 minutes), and it also takes forever to kill an enemy. I shot a guy 5 times in the head, just to watch him stare at me for a second then continue to shoot....

But the overall feeling that you are in Africa and can go anywhere killing anyone is very cool. The online is pretty bad IMO. Its just standard multiplayer, just something to give the game a little more replayability over the 50+ hour campaign. Dont buy it solely for its mp!

Overall, its a rental. If you enjoy it, buy it! But rent first!

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#266 loco145
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Enemies take foreve to kill? Taht what happens when you give recoil to a Dual anlog shooter. Inferior controls are inferior.
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#268 loco145
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Some PC shoots:

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#269 jg4xchamp
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^^OMG is that how it really looks? WOW thats :o

on the PC i mean...i know the 360 and PS3 version don't look that good.
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#270 loco145
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^^OMG is that how it really looks? WOW thats :o

on the PC i mean...i know the 360 and PS3 version don't look that good.jg4xchamp
Yah, that's DX10 with 4xAA, I took this one in DX9 at 2xAA at 1650x1050

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#271 Phazevariance
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I'm disappointed in the games quality personally. Take things like the ground, it looks like its missing bump mapping, and the vegetation pops out of no where. Looks like sprites sitting on a flat textured ground. The trees and leaves all fall through each other, as if they have no clipping whatsoever, and the wind makes the environment look like bending sprites. Not to mention the voice acting is by far the worst i've heard in years. Like a guy reading from a paper with no emotions at all!

Sadly, this game lacks too much to be entertaining for me to continue, i need to sell my copy asap. Crysis is 10 fold ahead of this game in terms of graphcis and physics, and although FC2 look sgreat over long distances, up close it looks terrible and the controls feel tacked together (pc version) and unresponsive.

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#272 FirstDiscovery
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Ive got a good PC, and a 360, would rather get the PC game but my 360 is hooked up to a nice HDTV:(
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#273 3picuri3
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I'm disappointed in the games quality personally. Take things like the ground, it looks like its missing bump mapping, and the vegetation pops out of no where. Looks like sprites sitting on a flat textured ground. The trees and leaves all fall through each other, as if they have no clipping whatsoever, and the wind makes the environment look like bending sprites. Not to mention the voice acting is by far the worst i've heard in years. Like a guy reading from a paper with no emotions at all!

Sadly, this game lacks too much to be entertaining for me to continue, i need to sell my copy asap. Crysis is 10 fold ahead of this game in terms of graphcis and physics, and although FC2 look sgreat over long distances, up close it looks terrible and the controls feel tacked together (pc version) and unresponsive.

Phazevariance

i get no pop-ups on PC, dx10 client. i think any comparisons to sprites are ridiculous to be honest - this game is beautiful on max with dx10. and you're honestly complaining about clipping on leaves? seriously? do you understand how much processing power you'd need to calculate the impact and clips for every leaf?

i don't find the voice acting to be that bad, no worse that Crysis. and lol @ crysis being 10 fold better, get some perspective pal. crysis was a very beautiful game, but also full of flaws (i.e. the actual game & gameplay).

to me it seems like you're hungry for things that will happen in 10-15 years, best you find a cryogenic lab and freeze yourself until your l33t visuals and non-clipping leaves arrive.

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#274 JangoWuzHere
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Ive got a good PC, and a 360, would rather get the PC game but my 360 is hooked up to a nice HDTV:(FirstDiscovery

you can hook your PC games to TV's as well....

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#275 Verge_6
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damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.
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#276 Phazevariance
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[QUOTE="Phazevariance"]

I'm disappointed in the games quality personally. Take things like the ground, it looks like its missing bump mapping, and the vegetation pops out of no where. Looks like sprites sitting on a flat textured ground. The trees and leaves all fall through each other, as if they have no clipping whatsoever, and the wind makes the environment look like bending sprites. Not to mention the voice acting is by far the worst i've heard in years. Like a guy reading from a paper with no emotions at all!

Sadly, this game lacks too much to be entertaining for me to continue, i need to sell my copy asap. Crysis is 10 fold ahead of this game in terms of graphcis and physics, and although FC2 look sgreat over long distances, up close it looks terrible and the controls feel tacked together (pc version) and unresponsive.

3picuri3

i get no pop-ups on PC, dx10 client. i think any comparisons to sprites are ridiculous to be honest - this game is beautiful on max with dx10. and you're honestly complaining about clipping on leaves? seriously? do you understand how much processing power you'd need to calculate the impact and clips for every leaf?

i don't find the voice acting to be that bad, no worse that Crysis. and lol @ crysis being 10 fold better, get some perspective pal. crysis was a very beautiful game, but also full of flaws (i.e. the actual game & gameplay).

to me it seems like you're hungry for things that will happen in 10-15 years, best you find a cryogenic lab and freeze yourself until your l33t visuals and non-clipping leaves arrive.

I'm running DX10 max everythign on my rig, and i'm tellign you it looks like trash compared to crysis. I compare the voice acting to that of the 3d sonic the hedgehog games, its THAT bad. Yeah, crysis is full of flaws, to which far cry 2 repeats and makes them worse. By leave popping i dont mean pop in, as in not there, then there... i mean they are sprites that pop, they don't fit with the ground textures. green blades of grass popping out of a flat brown texture for the ground, at least most new games use grass textures under their 3d/sprite blades of grass.

the clipping of leaves and grass would take a lot of cpu power, but at least crysis ahs that better. Teh trees have 3d branches, but all the leaves are 2d flat sprites, and the wind as i mentioned, jsut flexes them, makign it look terrible. I have perspective on what i'm talkign about, too bad you just can't see past the garbage developers try to sell you on. They physics in crysis and leave clipping is already a reality, not something from 1-15 years from now. Perhaps you ened to get out of the cryo chamber you've put yourself into and get with the times. you're WAY behind... oh unless youre a plain consolite, who has never touched a new game for the PC except this trash...

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#277 istreakforfood
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I read and saw the reviews for Far Cry 2 in GS, IGN, and GT. Game looks really fun. I am really tempted to go out and buy the game. Game reminds me of Stalker in some ways.
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#278 Mordred19
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damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.Verge_6

How well do enemies react to sniper fire from you?

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#279 Mordred19
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To my understanding, this game's story has nothing to do with the plot of the first game, and is not even science fiction, right? No mutants, no scientists, just a war in a modern politically charged setting?

When I first heard about Far Cry 2, I was imagining a story with a kind of Resident Evil 5 vibe, you know?

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#280 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"]damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.Mordred19

How well do enemies react to sniper fire from you?

Depends. If you're in, say, the southwestern part of the area, where it's flat, empty desert, and can see far away and have the SVD Dragunov, they'll spend a few seconds wondering just why one of their comrade's just got a bullet to the head. Then, they'll usually run for cover or go into buildings (if there are any). I usually like to wound a man with my first shot, because one or two will come out of their cover to try and help him after around 30 seconds. Then, I pop them while they're carrying the still-screaming victim of my first shot. :twisted:

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#281 Mordred19
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.Verge_6

How well do enemies react to sniper fire from you?

Depends. If you're in, say, the southwestern part of the area, where it's flat, empty desert, and can see far away and have the SVD Dragunov, they'll spend a few seconds wondering just why one of their comrade's just got a bullet to the head. Then, they'll usually run for cover or go into buildings (if there are any). I usually like to wound a man with my first shot, because one or two will come out of their cover to try and help him after around 30 seconds. Then, I pop them while they're carrying the still-screaming victim of my first shot. :twisted:

First time I've ever heard of a video game actually having NPCs do that. :O

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#282 Zenkuso
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To my understanding, this game's story has nothing to do with the plot of the first game, and is not even science fiction, right? No mutants, no scientists, just a war in a modern politically charged setting?

When I first heard about Far Cry 2, I was imagining a story with a kind of Resident Evil 5 vibe, you know?

Mordred19

The story has no sci-fi elements and the game holds nothing but the name from far cry.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.Mordred19

How well do enemies react to sniper fire from you?

With deadly accuracy when unsilenced weapons but I play these things on hard difficulties.

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#284 Verge_6
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To my understanding, this game's story has nothing to do with the plot of the first game, and is not even science fiction, right? No mutants, no scientists, just a war in a modern politically charged setting?

When I first heard about Far Cry 2, I was imagining a story with a kind of Resident Evil 5 vibe, you know?

Mordred19

Correct, this game has absolutely NOTHING to do with the first Far Cry. It might as well be a whole different franchise, even. And that's a good thing. Crytek's trademark game-ruining mutants/aliens and jungle-fetish are nowhere to be found, and there aren't any powers either.
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#285 thegfl
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.Verge_6

How well do enemies react to sniper fire from you?

Depends. If you're in, say, the southwestern part of the area, where it's flat, empty desert, and can see far away and have the SVD Dragunov, they'll spend a few seconds wondering just why one of their comrade's just got a bullet to the head. Then, they'll usually run for cover or go into buildings (if there are any). I usually like to wound a man with my first shot, because one or two will come out of their cover to try and help him after around 30 seconds. Then, I pop them while they're carrying the still-screaming victim of my first shot. :twisted:

You copied that from the trailer :evil:
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#286 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]damn, going stealth in this game is surprisingly satisfying. Using the silenced MP5/Makarov combio and waiting until midnight to assault a villa equates to ownage.thegfl

How well do enemies react to sniper fire from you?

Depends. If you're in, say, the southwestern part of the area, where it's flat, empty desert, and can see far away and have the SVD Dragunov, they'll spend a few seconds wondering just why one of their comrade's just got a bullet to the head. Then, they'll usually run for cover or go into buildings (if there are any). I usually like to wound a man with my first shot, because one or two will come out of their cover to try and help him after around 30 seconds. Then, I pop them while they're carrying the still-screaming victim of my first shot. :twisted:

You copied that from the trailer :evil:

Didn't say I came up with it. >>

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#287 kidcool189
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is it me, or is the whole diamond searchin, and using that to buy stuff aspect kind of lame

i would love to rather have ALL those weapons/upgrades/equipment, to be thrown ALL over the far cry 2 world for u to discover and unlock, and once u find that weapon/upgrade/equipment, itll will always be at the ammo supply liek it is when u buy stuff...

if it was like that, the exploration aspect of this game would be tooons better and more motivationg than just looking for those damn diamond cases all of the place

agreed?
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#288 Zenkuso
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[QUOTE="Mordred19"]

To my understanding, this game's story has nothing to do with the plot of the first game, and is not even science fiction, right? No mutants, no scientists, just a war in a modern politically charged setting?

When I first heard about Far Cry 2, I was imagining a story with a kind of Resident Evil 5 vibe, you know?

Verge_6


Correct, this game has absolutely NOTHING to do with the first Far Cry. It might as well be a whole different franchise, even. And that's a good thing. Crytek's trademark game-ruining mutants/aliens and jungle-fetish are nowhere to be found, and there aren't any powers either.

This game does have a jungle fetish though...

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Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff.
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#290 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Mordred19"]

To my understanding, this game's story has nothing to do with the plot of the first game, and is not even science fiction, right? No mutants, no scientists, just a war in a modern politically charged setting?

When I first heard about Far Cry 2, I was imagining a story with a kind of Resident Evil 5 vibe, you know?

Zenkuso


Correct, this game has absolutely NOTHING to do with the first Far Cry. It might as well be a whole different franchise, even. And that's a good thing. Crytek's trademark game-ruining mutants/aliens and jungle-fetish are nowhere to be found, and there aren't any powers either.

This game does have a jungle fetish though...

There's far more non-jungle terrain than Far Cry or Crysis.

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#291 Wasdie  Moderator
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Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff. Teufelhuhn

Turn the sensitivity up?

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#292 3picuri3
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Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff. Teufelhuhn

if you use Nvidia then go the nvidia control panel.

then go to 'manage 3D settings'

under 'global settings' change 'maximum pre-rendered frames from default 3 to 1 or 0.

problem should be sorted :)

this is a common PC game bug, rendering latency to input or vice-versa - forcing the GPU to render the immediate instead of impending gives the mouse a break - and the game - if that makes any sense.

if that doesn't work a fix is due shortly as this isn't an uncommon complaint - and is something that has happened with other PC games lately :)

FYI I had this issue as well and the fix I suggested worked - it was the same fix used for oblivion ;) same issue.

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#293 Zenkuso
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Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff. Teufelhuhn

The games sensitivity is low even at the highest and the widescreen is faked (cropped at top and bottom) so that doesn't help, plus there are some rendering issues with latency explained in the post above with nvidia cards.

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#294 skrat_01
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Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff. Teufelhuhn
*raises hand*

The controls on the PC version are a bit off.

Dammit Ubisoft.

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#295 blues35301
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff. skrat_01

*raises hand*

The controls on the PC version are a bit off.

Dammit Ubisoft.

they definitely do but for me its also due to the hold right click for iron sights. i like to hold the mouse really loose and with only my thumb and first three finger tips. i get more precision and speed like this and when you're forced tohold right click its just plain awkward. i honestly feel like id do better with a 360 controller.

hopefully a patch soon for toggle ironsights, prone and lean keys

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#296 Verge_6
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[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"]Anybody having any control issues on the PC version? It's really strange...it's almost like my guy feels stiff. Wasdie

Turn the sensitivity up?


That won't help much. The way the character handles in the PC variant seems to have been meant for the console one. As an owner of both, I think I am seeing an incredible amount of console influence in the PC version.
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#297 killerfist
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my impressions so far (360 version)

I'm only 4% into the game (the point where all the main missions are unlocked) but I can say that the game is fun as hell.

Graphics are very good for a 360 game, setting is awesome (reminds me of Blood Diamond) contolls are fine as well. Explosions + fire look amazing. I shot an enemy Jeep that was chasing me, the jeep explodes and sets some trees on fire. I watched the Trees burn for a few minutes before moving on with my mission lol. Sound is good and I love the healing animation lol. I heard during the tutorial that the "buddies" you find throughout the game can help you out during the mission. Could be interesting:)

I do have some minor complaints as well.

The game lacks story so far but like I said I'm not that far in the game, the characters and voice actors could've used better work imo and the enemy AI is not the best I've seen. Sometimes they act smart and try to flank you and work together, in other situations they're plain dumbasses. I was sitting in front of an enemy (only a few feet away) in some tall grass and he wouldn't do anything untill I moved..

the Pros defenitely outweigh the cons though. So far, so good:)

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#298 Toriko42
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I just have a question, should I get the console or PC version. Highs and lows for both

Consoles:
- Guaranteed to play it well and at at least medium-lowish high graphics
- No computer related issues
- Possible more playing the game online
- Controller set up is something I see a positive
- I like playing games on the TV
- Achievements
- I can play with my friend

PC:

- I have a pretty decent gaming rig
Intel Dual Core E8400
4 gigs of ram
Nvidia 8600GT
I play the game medium-high just like I would on the console perhaps better. I run Crysis at high so I figure this game will run at high and better
- Map editor might be more useful
- Mods
- 10 dollars less

So which version should I get?
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#299 killerfist
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^hmm dunno but it seems you got the PC for it

I'd say go for it

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#300 skrat_01
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I just have a question, should I get the console or PC version. Highs and lows for both

Consoles:
- Guaranteed to play it well and at at least medium-lowish high graphics
- No computer related issues
- Possible more playing the game online
- Controller set up is something I see a positive
- I like playing games on the TV
- Achievements
- I can play with my friend

PC:

- I have a pretty decent gaming rig
Intel Dual Core E8400
4 gigs of ram
Nvidia 8600GT
I play the game medium-high just like I would on the console perhaps better. I run Crysis at high so I figure this game will run at high and better
- Map editor might be more useful
- Mods
- 10 dollars less

So which version should I get?Toriko42
Well im doubtful that the 360 version will have more online players.

I strongly doubt that you wont be hanging onto the online for long though, unless the map editor and mods tickles your fancy.

The game should run better than Crysis too, and modefully modders will take to it, as there are plenty of tools there.