Gamespot uses the term "console exclusive"....

But why can't we use it in here? It makes no sense. Hell, there are even a couple PS3/PC games coming out, and I sure as hell wouldn't mind if the cows came calling in saying "console exclusive!"

Now I'm just trying to find the preview where gamespot used it. It's a new preview from E3, too.

Does it really matter that much to you?

But why can't we use it in here? It makes no sense. Hell, there are even a couple PS3/PC games coming out, and I sure as hell wouldn't mind if the cows came calling in saying "console exclusive!"

Now I'm just trying to find the preview where gamespot used it. It's a new preview from E3, too.

iammason

Because it's a pointless term, just as pointless as saying black box exclusive. PC is a gaming platform, and attempting to exclude it is just cherry picking what you consider.DerekLoffin

Having Console exclusive would mean you should be able to use the term "PC exclusive" aswell..

That would make no sence...

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But why can't we use it in here? It makes no sense. Hell, there are even a couple PS3/PC games coming out, and I sure as hell wouldn't mind if the cows came calling in saying "console exclusive!"

Now I'm just trying to find the preview where gamespot used it. It's a new preview from E3, too.

jonnyt61

360/PC games are console exclusives. Its a fact. They are only in one console. If we talk about all systems they are multiplays

But why can't we use it in here? It makes no sense. Hell, there are even a couple PS3/PC games coming out, and I sure as hell wouldn't mind if the cows came calling in saying "console exclusive!"

Now I'm just trying to find the preview where gamespot used it. It's a new preview from E3, too.

iammason

360/PC games are console exclusives. Its a fact. They are only in one console. If we talk about all systems they are multiplays

PAL360

Here are your responses Cows: PC is a system, this is system wars Lems: Pc shouldn't count in system wars Sheep: Why do people just ignore us all the time Hermits: We are a system and have the greatest library of games/exclusives Logical answers: You would have a point if this was console wars, sadly it's not.bdum_pshhh

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]Because it's a pointless term, just as pointless as saying black box exclusive. PC is a gaming platform, and attempting to exclude it is just cherry picking what you consider.iammason

]So the PC is a system. And the 360 is a console. Console exclusive should still stand then, as it is a counter for the PS3 and this is system wars. iammason

Any SW moderator will tell you this is System Wars, not Console Wars.

Attempts to exclude PC in order to count cross platform games as exclusives is just pathetic. Anyone who tries it should be rightfully mocked, because clearly they are so insecure about their platforms exclusive list they need to bloat it artificially.

Here are your responses Cows: PC is a system, this is system wars Lems: Pc shouldn't count in system wars Sheep: Why do people just ignore us all the time Hermits: We are a system and have the greatest library of games/exclusives Logical answers: You would have a point if this was console wars, sadly it's not.bdum_pshhh

Lems: Pc shouldn't count in system wars because cows hide behind it

Sheep: Why do people just ignore us all the time

Hermits: We are a system and have the greatest library of games/exclusives fixed :P

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]Here are your responses Cows: PC is a system, this is system wars Lems: Pc shouldn't count in system wars Sheep: Why do people just ignore us all the time Hermits: We are a system and have the greatest library of games/exclusives Logical answers: You would have a point if this was console wars, sadly it's not.iammason

Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

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Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

STRETCH-E

Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

STRETCH-E

Why don't you guys say microsoft exclusive or pc/360 exclusive to avoid an arguement. A game can be exclusive to more than one system. it's really annoyuing when cows say that the 360 has no exclusive when nearly all the 360 games also end up on microsoft's windows compatible Pc's. Having a game on a 360 and pc still gives a person more of a reason to buy a 360 vs a ps3 which is the whole point of system wars.

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Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

iammason

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Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

blue_hazy_basic

Totally. It's PR damage control.

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Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

jonnyt61

Simply put, it's essentially padding numbers by excluding a system from comparison in an effort to make your system of choice look better. It's illogical, and silly.jonnyt61

Not to mention it would be just as easy to say "Here is a game that's on the 360, but not on the PS3" or vice-versa. There are still ways to claim ownage if you really want to waste your time with it; you don't have exclude the PC in the proces. :P

I agree. Lets stop treating the PC as a gaming machine all togeather.LOXO7

Everybody talks about business on this fourm, but for these threads people seem to leave it out. It is not profitable for MS to have the games just on PC, thats why they made a console like the xbox and 360.:shock: And MS doesn't see the profit in making the fanboys on gaming sites happy.

360/PC games are console exclusives. Its a fact. They are only in one console. If we talk about all systems they are multiplays

PAL360

[QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]Here are your responses Cows: PC is a system, this is system wars Lems: Pc shouldn't count in system wars Sheep: Why do people just ignore us all the time Hermits: We are a system and have the greatest library of games/exclusives Logical answers: You would have a point if this was console wars, sadly it's not.iammason

But when I'm comparing console libraries (in this case, PS3 vs 360), that's where i think the term should stand. If it's not in the PS3 library, it SHOULD be console exclusive.

iammason

You know what I found quite hilarious about E3? The sheer number of cross platform games shown off to promote the platform.

Some of the developers talking about their games were at the Microsoft conference one day and the Sony one the next, showing the exact same games. Some of the footage that was shown off for the "first time" running on 360 in Microsoft's conference then appeared at Sony's the next day.

Is it any wonder the term "console exclusive" is popping up more often lately? I chuckled when Microsoft said Alan Wake was a 360 exclusive.

Both platforms have exclusives, but there is less than last E3 and the E3 before that, this is a rather poor generation.

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Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

STRETCH-E

Totally. It's PR damage control.

Cows know the PS3 library cannot compete directly with the 360's so they twist the rules to discard a subset of the 360's library to put it on a more equal footing.

The rule is that this is 'System Wars' and all systems are in direct competition. This may be the official title of the forum but to a vast percentage of people here (and gamers in the real world) the only 'war' going on is between the PS3 and the 360. So, what you end up with is a lot of purely PS3 vs 360 threads. While the thread is quite clearly marked as such and even though the PC is not part of the comparison (they'd be upset if PC fans came into the thread posting pics of Crysis etc. and ruiining the show)

PS3 fans will use the PC at this point to exclude 360 games because they're not 'Exclusive' and there can't be such a thing as 'Console Exclusive' purely because of the word 'Exclusive' being used, i.e belonging to only one. Everyone gets hung up on the phrase and yes, the phrase 'console exclusive' is a bit of a contradiction in itself BUT does represent a very important concept (hence why journalists and um 'real people' outside of this forum use it, for want of a better expression really) These 'console exclusives' (which we're not going to call 'console exclusives' because people get upset) are possibly the most important factor (aswell as price) in most gamers decision to side with each console.

To deny the existence of such a concept purely down to semantics of the particular phrase used is just an underhand way to tip the scales unfairly in one direction.

[QUOTE="iammason"]But when I'm comparing console libraries (in this case, PS3 vs 360), that's where i think the term should stand. If it's not in the PS3 library, it SHOULD be console exclusive.

360/PC games are console exclusives. Its a fact. They are only in one console. If we talk about all systems they are multiplays

PAL360

its to bad this is sytem wars not console wars, it doesnt matter theres no console exclusvies here.

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] Sony used it in their E3 presentation .... :)

The_Game21x

Totally. It's PR damage control.

Yeah they adhere to the standards of PR which is "make your product look like the best any way you can".

[QUOTE="iammason"][QUOTE="bdum_pshhh"]Here are your responses Cows: PC is a system, this is system wars Lems: Pc shouldn't count in system wars Sheep: Why do people just ignore us all the time Hermits: We are a system and have the greatest library of games/exclusives Logical answers: You would have a point if this was console wars, sadly it's not.darthogre

That's like saying a ps3 can simply play a pc/360 game on a 360. You can't make that arguement. In system wars your suppose to be comparing one system to another not 2 vs 1 (ps3/pc vs xbox 360). Pc gaming isn't as expensive as most people think but buying a 360 is still cheaper then building a gaming pc.

[QUOTE="iammason"]But when I'm comparing console libraries (in this case, PS3 vs 360), that's where i think the term should stand. If it's not in the PS3 library, it SHOULD be console exclusive.

multiplatform = game is on multiple platforms/systems whatever you want to call them exclusive = on one platform/system we have a system and it is complete win.Mckenna1845

No an exclusive can be in more than one system it just can't be on all of them. For example: pc/360 exclusive. Im am using the term "exclusive" correctly because it is possible for a game to only be available for the 360 and pc and that's what exclusive meant in that example.

Having Console exclusive would mean you should be able to use the term "PC exclusive" aswell..

That would make no sence...

[QUOTE="iammason"][QUOTE="agentfred"] Why are you eliminating the PC though? I mean, you may as well eliminate every other system, and then just start calling every game exclusive.

iammason

This thread has been done to death. Its simple logic, not hard to understand. A game on 2 platforms = multiplatform.