Gamespot uses the term "console exclusive"....

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]multiplatform = game is on multiple platforms/systems whatever you want to call them exclusive = on one platform/system we have a system and it is complete win.hysam20241

No an exclusive can be in more than one system it just can't be on all of them. For example: pc/360 exclusive. Im am using the term "exclusive" correctly because it is possible for a game to only be available for the 360 and pc and that's what exclusive meant in that example.

The reason why the term "console exclusive" is stupid is because it undermines the validity of the PC as a gaming platform. This is not console wars or company wars, nor is reality console wars. All gaming platforms are competing directly with each other... and if you can find a game on more than one platform, it is multiplatform. The only "exclusives" are those that exist on one platform only, no more, no less.

MS doesn't make money from games sold on PC and Sony doesn't make money from games sold on PC (and they only do if they publish the games). So treating a multiplatform game as "exclusive" because you don't own or use a PC to game is incredibly silly.

[QUOTE="darthogre"][QUOTE="iammason"]So the PC is a system. And the 360 is a console. Console exclusive should still stand then, as it is a counter for the PS3 and this is system wars. hysam20241

That's like saying a ps3 can simply play a pc/360 game on a 360. You can't make that arguement. In system wars your suppose to be comparing one system to another not 2 vs 1 (ps3/pc vs xbox 360). Pc gaming isn't as expensive as most people think but buying a 360 is still cheaper then building a gaming pc.

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Totally. It's PR damage control.

STRETCH-E

Yeah they adhere to the standards of PR which is "make your product look like the best any way you can".

Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

STRETCH-E

Swing and a miss.

If you watched the E3 presentations you would know that both Sony and Microsoft had so called console exclusives labelled as exclusives (Final Fantasy 14 and Splinter Cell Conviction).

The PC doesn't really seem to matter to them. Some how I don't think Sony and Microsoft were "damage controlling" on stage at E3, they were just making their platforms look more appealing.

[QUOTE="iammason"][QUOTE="iammason"]How am I eliminating the PC, when I said if I were comparing just the two game consoles? And besides, like someone said earlier. The PC is a system, Yes okay we got that figured out. And the 360 and PS3 are entertainment systems too, however they may be called consoles. And that's how I figure the term console exclusive DOES make sense.Mckenna1845

The reason why the term "console exclusive" is stupid is because it undermines the validity of the PC as a gaming platform. This is not console wars or company wars, nor is reality console wars. All gaming platforms are competing directly with each other... and if you can find a game on more than one platform, it is multiplatform. The only "exclusives" are those that exist on one platform only, no more, no less.

MS doesn't make money from games sold on PC and Sony doesn't make money from games sold on PC (and they only do if they publish the games). So treating a multiplatform game as "exclusive" because you don't own or use a PC to game is incredibly silly.foxhound_fox

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Oh lemmings... It's ok, maybe you'll get some exclusives next year.

Console exclusive is a marketing term used by people in the business to damage control: FACT.

comeonthehoops

Swing and a miss.

If you watched the E3 presentations you would know that both Sony and Microsoft had so called console exclusives labelled as exclusives (Final Fantasy 14 and Splinter Cell Conviction).

The PC doesn't really seem to matter to them. Some how I don't think Sony and Microsoft were "damage controlling" on stage at E3, they were just making their platforms look more appealing.

So your telling me my gaming rig isnt a system F YOU MAN!!! :lol:

Having Console exclusive would mean you should be able to use the term "PC exclusive" aswell..

That would make no sence...

omgimba

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[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"]multiplatform = game is on multiple platforms/systems whatever you want to call them exclusive = on one platform/system we have a system and it is complete win.Mckenna1845

No an exclusive can be in more than one system it just can't be on all of them. For example: pc/360 exclusive. Im am using the term "exclusive" correctly because it is possible for a game to only be available for the 360 and pc and that's what exclusive meant in that example.

Look up the term exclusive. A game exclusive means that it is only on a certain system or systems. Look up exclusive on dictionary.com and you'll find out that exclusive does not always mean on just one system.

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[QUOTE="darthogre"] But Cows can play those console exclusives on their PC, so how exactly do you consider it exclusive? They don't own a 360 yet they can play the game........things to ponder. Essentially the PC or hermits have to be removed as a faction if you want to call them exclusives here. Somehow I don't see that happening because PC has exclusive games just like Sony, MS, and Nintendo.darthogre

That's like saying a ps3 can simply play a pc/360 game on a 360. You can't make that arguement. In system wars your suppose to be comparing one system to another not 2 vs 1 (ps3/pc vs xbox 360). Pc gaming isn't as expensive as most people think but buying a 360 is still cheaper then building a gaming pc.

First of all, to answer your first question, when i said 2 systems vs 1 I meant pc/ps3 vs 360. I even said that in paranthesese right next to it. second of all i only payed 200 dollars for my 360 and for one year i've been able to play every single 360 game i wanted. So don't tell me how expensive a 360 is. A gaming pc is still more expensive then a 360. I have both a gaming pc (which I built myself and a 360) so don't try to tell me that a 360 is more expensive than a pc.

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"][QUOTE="hysam20241"]

No an exclusive can be in more than one system it just can't be on all of them. For example: pc/360 exclusive. Im am using the term "exclusive" correctly because it is possible for a game to only be available for the 360 and pc and that's what exclusive meant in that example.

hysam20241

Look up the term exclusive. A game exclusive means that it is only on a certain system or systems. Look up exclusive on dictionary.com and you'll find out that exclusive does not always mean on just one system.

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[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"] most 360/ps3 games aren't on wii does that make fallout 3 or resident evil 5 exclusive? what about handhelds are all games not on them exclusive?blue_hazy_basic

Look up the term exclusive. A game exclusive means that it is only on a certain system or systems. Look up exclusive on dictionary.com and you'll find out that exclusive does not always mean on just one system.

I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. If you say console exclusive, Cows, not hermits, argue that you shouldn't exclude the pc (just to make the ps3 look better by saying that the ps3 has more exclusives).

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Look up the term exclusive. A game exclusive means that it is only on a certain system or systems. Look up exclusive on dictionary.com and you'll find out that exclusive does not always mean on just one system.

I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. Games like halo and gears of war are technically microsoft exclusive.

I know alot of developers do it too, the section of exclusive Xbox games in M$'s conferance included games which were on the PCmarkop2003

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[QUOTE="blue_hazy_basic"] I presume thats why the term "console exclusive" is used instead of just "exclusive" :P

blue_hazy_basic

I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. Games like halo and gears of war are technically microsoft exclusive.

lol, they started it :P. But yea, your right this is stupid.

I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. If you say console exclusive, Cows, not hermits, argue that you shouldn't exclude the pc (just to make the ps3 look better by saying that the ps3 has more exclusives).

hysam20241

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. If you say console exclusive, Cows, not hermits, argue that you shouldn't exclude the pc (just to make the ps3 look better by saying that the ps3 has more exclusives).

foxhound_fox

EDIT and I'm only sort of joking lol

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. If you say console exclusive, Cows, not hermits, argue that you shouldn't exclude the pc (just to make the ps3 look better by saying that the ps3 has more exclusives).

foxhound_fox

Dude I think your talking to the wrong person. I just said I don't agree with the term console exclusive. However microsoft exclusive does make sense to me. I'm not excluding any system saying this. And it is true to games like halo and gears are microft exclusive. Basically my point is to use the term microsoft exclusive when it comes to pc/360 game.

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]I'm just saying use the term pc/360 exclusive or microsoft exclusive to avoid an argument. If you say console exclusive, Cows, not hermits, argue that you shouldn't exclude the pc (just to make the ps3 look better by saying that the ps3 has more exclusives).

foxhound_fox

[QUOTE="Mckenna1845"][QUOTE="hysam20241"]

No an exclusive can be in more than one system it just can't be on all of them. For example: pc/360 exclusive. Im am using the term "exclusive" correctly because it is possible for a game to only be available for the 360 and pc and that's what exclusive meant in that example.

Look up the term exclusive. A game exclusive means that it is only on a certain system or systems. Look up exclusive on dictionary.com and you'll find out that exclusive does not always mean on just one system.

PC gaming is dead, so who cares?IronBass

Dude I think your talking to the wrong person. I just said I don't agree with the term console exclusive. However microsoft exclusive does make sense to me. I'm not excluding any system saying this. And it is true to games like halo and gears are microft exclusive. Basically my point is to use the term microsoft exclusive when it comes to pc/360 game.

hysam20241

PC gaming is dead, so who cares?IronBass

Is that the best console gamers can come up with ?I know you were kidding.anshul89

It's been a long time without Picard. I kinda missed him.

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]Dude I think your talking to the wrong person. I just said I don't agree with the term console exclusive. However microsoft exclusive does make sense to me. I'm not excluding any system saying this. And it is true to games like halo and gears are microsoft exclusive. Basically my point is to use the term microsoft exclusive when it comes to pc/360 game.

foxhound_fox

I even said said this in two of my posts. Let me quote myself "...true to games like halo and gears are microsoft exclusive". You even quoted that part of my post. I never talked about any games not published by microsoft. nearly 90%+ of games require windows to run anyways, including mass effect.

I even said said this in two of my posts. Let me quote myself "...true to games like halo and gears are microsoft exclusive". You even quoted that part of my post. I never talked about any games not published by microsoft. nearly 90%+ of games require windows to run anyways, including mass effect.

hysam20241

I am fine with exclusive being...well....exclusive.

The problem as I see it, is that we should be talking/comparing total game library, not exclusives.

Or we should be comparing my PC + PS3 vs your 360. Or my 360 + Wii vs your PS3, etc.

Otherwise a direct 1 vs 1 comparison between any two systems based only on exclusives isinaccurate.

But we have accepted an imperfect compromise and stuck with exclusive....but it is a matter of convenience, not a matter of accuracy.

The convenience is based on assuming that all comparisons are equal 4 way options. Yet the majority of the threads created are not designed to be 4 way comparisons. It allows everone to feel like they aren't left out. But it isn't accurate.

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I even said said this in two of my posts. Let me quote myself "...true to games like halo and gears are microsoft exclusive". You even quoted that part of my post. I never talked about any games not published by microsoft. nearly 90%+ of games require windows to run anyways, including mass effect.

foxhound_fox

You completely ignored the first thing I said. And again, mass effect (which is not published by microsoft) requires windows. It is not compatible with linux.

You completely ignored the first thing I said.hysam20241

You completely ignored the first thing I said. And again, mass effect (which is not published by microsoft) requires windows. It is not compatible with linux.

hysam20241

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]You completely ignored the first thing I said.Vandalvideo

No because pc games can theorically run on hardware created by any manufacture. But a good deal of them can not run on an OS that is not microsoft.

No because pc games can theorically run on hardware created by any manufacture. But a good deal of them can not run on an OS that is not microsoft.hysam20241

Rarely such a thing because that would mean its multiplat, across more than one console, and usually they end up on PC anyway. Unless we are talking they are only on one console EG MGS4, but that would be stupid because then its a PS3 exclusive. No, console exclusive is stupid.

I might aswell just post this LINK

"this has caused many lengthy arguments over the past several months and there's really been no reason for it. this is a video game website. it covers console games and pc games. the title of the forum is system wars...not console wars. the pc has just as much right to be included as any console. because this forum was designed with the intention of including the pc, saying otherwise could count as trolling or even off topic posting and you can be moderated for such."

"If you believe that this is a console versus console board then you have been mistaken"

Systems include PC, 360, PS3, Wii, DS, PSP etc etc. Each system is seperate, meaning if its on 2 of them then its multiplatform.

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]You completely ignored the first thing I said. And again, mass effect (which is not published by microsoft) requires windows. It is not compatible with linux.

foxhound_fox

Read my post! I said microsoft are the ones that are getting a chunk of the profit from microsoft published games not sony or nintendo (the only two other game system company competitors).

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]No because pc games can theorically run on hardware created by any manufacture. But a good deal of them can not run on an OS that is not microsoft.Vandalvideo

But be serious. Windows is the only single OS that can run all games availbe on pc. And as you said, I'm sure a combination of different versions of other OS's can run most pc games but this is a combination. Don't you guys ever see the pc box cover. A lot of them say " only on windows based pc's" or something like that.

Read my post! I said microsoft are the ones that are getting a chunk of the profit from microsoft published games not sony or nintendo (the only two other game system company competitors).

hysam20241

Because it's a pointless term, just as pointless as saying black box exclusive. PC is a gaming platform, and attempting to exclude it is just cherry picking what you consider.DerekLoffin

[QUOTE="DerekLoffin"]Because it's a pointless term, just as pointless as saying black box exclusive. PC is a gaming platform, and attempting to exclude it is just cherry picking what you consider.xsubtownerx

But be serious. Windows is the only single OS that can run all games availbe on pc. And as you said, I'm sure a combination of different versions of other OS's can run most pc games but this is a combination. Don't you guys ever see the pc box cover. A lot of them say " only on windows based pc's" or something like that.hysam20241

It isn't being "excluded". PCs are not "consoles". They are computers that can play the same video games as consoles. But it isn't a console. Therefor, the term "console exclusive" is quite valid.xsubtownerx

[QUOTE="hysam20241"]Read my post! I said microsoft are the ones that are getting a chunk of the profit from microsoft published games not sony or nintendo (the only two other game system company competitors).

foxhound_fox

Come on. This is the second time i asked you to read that post. Here let me just say it again here. Games that are microsoft published should be called microsoft exclusives. Games that are not, like mass effect should not be called microsoft exclusives. thats what I was trying to say in my original post but you overlooked it because i said that " you need windows to run mass effect anyways". My main point in the first one and that was the one i was referring to.

By the way I understand what you are trying to say and I completely agree with you on that.

How is it Exclusive?