God of War sells over 3.1m units in first 3 days; Phil Spencer : "SP games don’t have the same impact as before"

They actually gonna let us play him this time?

Yeah I am sure it will be over 80% of the game you will be playing as the Chief.

Lets cross our fingers for 100%

I think it would be cool to be play some of the game as Cortana.

LMAO. That was your biggest mistake.

This is the gen that lems have had to damage control the most ammount of times. It's actually starting to get really sad.

@creepywelps:

Lol, I have no console affiliation. I play my Xbox One, Switch, Wii U, and PS3 with the same amount of affection.

Here is the reality. GOW like every other single play game will come and go. There is no single player game that has staying power with the exception of Skyrim. That is a fact and the essence of Phil's response to anyone that actually read it ages ago. After this month ends people would still be playing Fortnite, PUBG, Overwatch and all the other multiplayer games in numbers that crushes any single player game sales. Even as I am typing this the most viewed games are a multiplayer games with a factor that is 20 times the numbers of the first single player on the list that being GoW(13th).

With that said, lets not pretend that 3 million is not great for 3 day period. The highest numbers for most games are within the first week of sales and that is nothing to scuff at.

You tried!

@recloud: COD, Battlefield, GTA, RDR,

Lol, I don't believe you.

OLDER than T-Rex

You cows need to go outside and meet real people

@Alucard_Prime: Problem is Phil walked into some observations that are correct but people didnt want to hear from him or MS. It wasn't helped that time he talked about service ms canceled games and closed studios. People view MS as a big pocket company therefore they should not only handle all types of games but they should be the preserver of single player games. Let others, 3rd party wory about where single player games are going. They should be Bethesda or even Ubisoft to some extent. They should not make an excuse like GOW is hard or the pay off is risky. Worse of there output went down and the games they have put out seemed low budget. They can do gas games but do them big. Anthem is on its 5 year development the investment of that thing is going to be huge. Phil just need to do something huge whatever it is put a lot of money into it. Rare could have killed it with Sea of Thief had they got the budget of Anthem. It all just seems cheap from ms these days. Trust me there will be no talk if MS put out the best complete gas game out there.

Some people don't know that the best selling games on the PS4 are multiplatform games.

Spencer should look games like GTA5 amnd Spencer should do something about exclusives other than saying diplomatic BS for years now

@Shewgenja: it really is a genuine question SW BS aside. Selling 3 million so quickly is a nice feat and I’m sure the game will have some legs and hopefully it can get in that 20% attach rate area but that’s a large amount that most exclusives don’t see. 12 Million, most are applauded if they hit 8. I know BOTW is an anomaly and most games don’t see that kind of attach rate wether exclusive or not, but when the game is only available on one system you’d think it would have a good attach rate and sell well especially being received so greatly.

In Sony’s case is it the secondary market that eats into their single player games attach rate? I would assume so, I’ve seen several people post in various places that they’ve finished the game. Does Sony release trophy data saying “X” amount of people have played this game or at least got the first trophy proving more people play than buy retail?

It is baffling to me, just because something sells well and makes more than it cost to make, doesn’t mean it shouldn’t do better or be played on the majority of PS4 owners systems instead of always showing it’s the minority.

I think its funny that people only remember the studios that MS closes and the games that MS cancelled but conveniently forget the Sony equivalents. One might argue that Sony still has block buster games so its ok. But that is cherry picking your complaints about MS. Another that is frequent on this forum is "MS is not investing in games". Factually false statement. You are claiming that the games they support are cheap but Quantum Break was not a cheap venture. Sea of Thieves looks like it lacking in budget but a studio that size is not remotely cheap even if their output was not hitting the right notes. Sunset Overdrive was a very solid game and fanboys ripped it apart because Insomnia was making a game for the xbox "How could they? Traitors". That was not a low budget game. At this point it really doesn't matter what MS does people are going to circle jerk complain and whine about something. The internet just amplifies this group think to a whole other level.

Ironic you're saying this after hyping the shit out of RDR BC on your XboneX. It's not like you can go back and play the MP in that game yet you're still excited to play it.

Great SP games never go, people go back to play them decades after they launched. I do this all the time with my retro consoles.

No one will be going back to play Destiny 10 years from now after they shut down the servers. SP games are the most memorable games because you can still go back to them years after their release and they will still be just as enjoyable as the day they launched.

@creepywelps:

Fortunately that doesn't mean anything.

At some point I'll pick up a PS4 Pro, but there will have to be a game I want that I can't get anywhere else, a remastered Demon's Souls would do that.

Firstly you need to stop claiming shit I would never do. I know you are rabid fanboy and logic is unable to penetrate your thick skull. I have never hyped or talked about RDR until now.

Secondly the rest of my original post addresses the remainder of your drivel thus the reason you conveniently left it out.

@Pedro: sure, because nobody talks about super Mario Bros, Zelda, crash, Jak and daxter, original gow trilogy, old final fantasy games and all sure.

Casual mention of those games does not equate the the long stay of multiplayer games. Why are you pretending that they are? This generation of gaming is more focused on multiplayer games whether you like it or not. Your memories of old games would not be the memories of gamers in this gen or last gen.

Do you mean GTA5 with the incredibly popular online?

@xxyetixx: 4 games... Lol

This generation you like it or not peeps, Sony played solo. X1 games went multiplatform since X1 sales werent as good as they should and Wii U, well ... Dead.

So for all to try to shoot Sony for providing exclusives after exclusives each year is as laughable as it gets

SP dont have the same impact ? Probably. But which games driving hardware sales for PS4 or Switch ? Yes, you guessed right.

Like a game to sell 4-5-10 million copies is not alot and what Spencer wants to really do with that statement ? Let us know about it ? Try to soft-defend X1 position because not many exclusives, if any, are coming ? Try to gently bash and/or let people know that SP games are not that great because MS is not providing any ? I dont get it.

So for which games each and everyone out there bought a PS4 for ? I bet majority will tell you a Single Player game was the reason. Same for Switch. So Mr. Spencer you better do something about X1 exclusives, SP or not, all im saying and let gamers decide if they like SP games.

It doesn't change the fact that you clowns are always hyping BC games as a major point for owning an XboneX when none of those games have MP in them (servers are dead).

You said...

Did Super Mario 64 come and go? Did Zelda OOT come and go? Did FF7 come and go? Face reality, your statement was pure bullshit that was spoon-fed to you by Phil Spencer and his PR team.

It has no basis in reality since some of the most memorable games in all of gaming are Single Player games.

The guy's head is so stuck so far up Phil Spencer's ass he can't think before he types. He and his lembros are always hyping 10-15 year old games without MP but when it comes to Sony's SP games they suddenly don't mean anything.

Phil could literally shit in his mouth and tell them it's good and he will eat it.

Or to put it simply.

Phil wants you to buy Minecraft and buy the microtransactions so they get money and don't have to make games.

You were wrong and now you are trying to spin. Try harder next time because you just made a fool of yourself.

" Extensively marketed and widely anticipated, the game broke industry sales records and became the fastest-selling entertainment product in history, earning US$800 million in its first day and US$1 billion in its first three days. It received widespread critical acclaim, with praise directed at its multiple protagonist design, open world, presentation and gameplay "

You think this happened because of its online ?

Its still relevant today because of the online features.

@AzatiS: and GTA V has a SOLID over 40h campaign.

@xxyetixx: That is the thing that seems to have Xbox leadership confounded as well. The answer is fundamental to the Playstation brand power. The PlayStation fan base is more of a mosaic of different types of gamers. There probably isnt a whole lot of overlap between the people buying Gravity Rush and the people buying God of War. Your Loco Rico crowd is likely sitting out Ni-Oh. Yakuza and Gran Turismo? Who knows!

The power of the exclusive isnt that it defines the platform to all people, but that they define the platform to enough people. It makes a big ol fluffy cushion for the Final Fantasys and Grand Theft Autos to land on... wherever those cross sections may be.

This is a formula that worked for the ps1 very well. In a time of Mario and Sonic, a platform found Zen in abandoning such convention. Make a mosaic big and strong enough and the third party will fill the holes for you. How else would we live in a world where Katamari Damacy exists?

Maybe thats the case but look the numbers in its 3rd day in the market. 1BILLION , thats crazy !

No arguing there. GTA brand is very strong.

I was making a point that when Phil talked about where industry focus is. It did not help that people were seeing studios, games being cancelled and MS output going down. I was pointing out to him what helped people take Phil out of context is not only words but actions that people felt there is big focus change. As I was also saying during all this time if MS delivered a fantastic gas game none of these talk would continue. This game thing is becoming a meme for MS now and difference between them and other console manufacture is clear. The sony does it too it just comes out as an excuse as there is clear contrast between the two. When they deliver fantastic games what ever types of games they may be, none of this will matter.

1. You didn't specify time period.
2. Your link doesn't specify breakdown. Total revenue for a game means little, considering the breakdown for storefronts/returns/distributors/publishers/etc.
3. The MP earnings are guaranteed to be drastically larger than anything GoW will earn.

People take things out of context because they want to take things out of context. The interview is there for anyone to read in full during the time it was said and even now. MS cannot deliver fantastic Games as Service when it its still in its infancy, that's an unrealistic expectation. Sony does it to is not an excuse, its simply pointing out that such a behavior is not an MS exclusive and that is pretty common in the industry. There is no argument that Sony excels in their single player games. MS on the other hand has had many flops despite strong investment in gaming. MS is now focusing on what they do best and its not strong single player experiences.

Thats why Sony is in the position they are imho as the most popular brand. They have the most variety and quantity of exclusives of them all. All kind of different experiences. Even mmorpgs like FF14 for the fans of the genre. So theres something most likely will appeal to someone out there big time. This is a huge plus imo.

Sony also is a beat when it comes to NEW IPS. THEY RISK with their exclusives. AAA exclusives not just exclusives. They have the balls to pay to make a new exclusive AAA IP from the scratch and this many times leads to some epic franchises or games that noone is waiting for and blow everyone out of nowhere. Suddenly those IPs might be someones FAVORITE game, someone that didnt necessarily liked anything on PS4 at that point.

Some of them might be underwhelming of plain bad like The Order for example. Some good like The Last guardian or Gravity rush. Some very good like Horizon and Bloodborne. But they trying to provide new IPs, thats huge deal i dont see the other two taking too seriously.

What all these games have in common in the end of the day ? Are heavily SP games.

I wasn't wrong. These are your own dumb words not mine....

^ ^ That's you making the idiotic claim that no one remembers single player games with the exception of Skyrim.

Own your own dumb words and stop trying to lie and wriggle out of them like your mentor Phil Spencer.

1) My point was that people still love SP and i doubt many bought the game for its MP in the first place

2) 1billion, not much to breakdown. This is astronomical whatever the case which means ALOT of sales

3) Irrelevant to my point. With that in mind everything should be MP then. I dont think anyone cares that much about this as long as their games are profitable.

This is where you were wrong and now you are trying to spin while backpedaling.

What's even sadder is that you quoted me and the quote varies from your interpretation. Stop making a fool of yourself and stop being a Sony shill. While you are at it learn to read. Staying power =/= no one remembers. But you are too dense to comprehend the difference so I forgive you.

A new Xbox PR milestone. Over billion posts of damage control!

http://www.playstationlifestyle.net/2018/04/08/far-cry-5-sales-reached-5m-week-1/

Far Cry 5 Reportedly Sold Nearly 5 Million Copies in One Week

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Far Cry 5 already countered Phil Spenser's anti-SP claims and defeated Sea of Thieves (ranked 2nd in NPD March 2018 charts )

https://www.forbes.com/sites/insertcoin/2018/03/29/microsoft-says-sea-of-thieves-is-its-fast-selling-new-ip-this-generation/#68377d6512f7

“The worldwide excitement for Sea of Thieves has made it the fastest-selling first-party new IP of this generation. Having witnessed more than a million players on launch day, our community continues to grow and now has more than two million players

You lied hahahahahahahahahahaha

@Fuhrer_D: Sure.

From Forza Horizon 3 base, Microsoft could have created

1. GTA5 clone. SP story with police and gang wars.

2. Scalebound i.e. replace vehicles with dragons, magical girls and sword player.

3. Fable rebooted.

@quadknight said:

? TLHBO!!

Phil "No Games" Spencer would have you believe garbage like Sea of Trash is the future of gaming but Sony and Nintendo continue to prove that single player games are alive and will continue to remain relevant in the industry.

@KBFloYd Now you have your first GOW milestone.

? I like how lems are avoiding this thread.

Hahaha! The more singleplayer games, the better!

At least they have games to play.