God of War sells over 3.1m units in first 3 days; Phil Spencer : "SP games don’t have the same impact as before"

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#351  Edited By cainetao11  Online
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@recloud said:

@cainetao11: he's right though, everytime you lems get ass kicked, you start another narrative to try and undermine the ps4.

I haven't started any narrative though. All I have done is post the factual words in context from the interview he wants everyone to see one line of. What narrative did I start? I believe it was you that told me sales always matter in SW.

Are you guys special ed? This is too easy.

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#352 Pedro
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Sony fannies are being ruffled.

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#353 nepu7supastar7
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@cainetao11:

Of course you would take what Spencer said verbatim because the truth hurts. And it's not just Sony doing well in the Sp department, Nintendo is doing great too. Microsoft is the only company lagging and they know it! LOL As much as I love Xbox still, it's pretty sad how far they've fallen.

Halo and Gears of War used to have such awesome Sp campaigns....smh

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#354  Edited By Syn_Valence
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Only lems would think 1 million sales a day are bad. What the hell is wrong with them. I can't wait til they're extinct.

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#355  Edited By mowgly1
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@cainetao11 said:

Glad you can.

And here is a new spin on the narrative you cows keep trying to spin. Nobody is hiding. My posts have clearly pointed out MS hasn't been good at SP games in this thread. Its like you lose all continuity of what has been said in this thread and only respond to what you wish to high light. Well, that's what you've done with the Spencer interview as well. Why are those Online MP games or COD outselling PS4 exclusives on the PS4 most years?

And why COD outselling super duper Halo 5 from space on Xbone or PUBG or GeOW?

Btw. your quote :

Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore, Halo Wars 2,FH2 and 3, Rise of the TR are all SP games they invested in.

So, COD is an SP game too. So, Phil Spencer is wrong about COD too when he said that SP games don’t have the same impact as before

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#356 DrLostRib
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@mowgly1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Glad you can.

And here is a new spin on the narrative you cows keep trying to spin. Nobody is hiding. My posts have clearly pointed out MS hasn't been good at SP games in this thread. Its like you lose all continuity of what has been said in this thread and only respond to what you wish to high light. Well, that's what you've done with the Spencer interview as well. Why are those Online MP games or COD outselling PS4 exclusives on the PS4 most years?

And why COD outselling super duper Halo 5 from space on Xbone or PUBG or GeOW?

Btw. your quote :

Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore, Halo Wars 2, FH2 and 3, Rise of the TR are all SP games they invested in.

So, COD is an SP game too.

did COD beat PUBG?

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@mowgly1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Glad you can.

And here is a new spin on the narrative you cows keep trying to spin. Nobody is hiding. My posts have clearly pointed out MS hasn't been good at SP games in this thread. Its like you lose all continuity of what has been said in this thread and only respond to what you wish to high light. Well, that's what you've done with the Spencer interview as well. Why are those Online MP games or COD outselling PS4 exclusives on the PS4 most years?

And why COD outselling super duper Halo 5 from space on Xbone or PUBG or GeOW?

Btw. your quote :

Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore, Halo Wars 2,FH2 and 3, Rise of the TR are all SP games they invested in.

So, COD is an SP game too. So, Phil Spencer is wrong about COD too when he said that SP games don’t have the same impact as before

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#358 mowgly1
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@Pedro said:

What what? COD is the also an SP game as FH2, FH3, Halo Wars 2 according to cainetao

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#359 mowgly1
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@drlostrib said:

did COD beat PUBG?

Did PUBG beat GTA V?

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#360  Edited By Pedro
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@mowgly1 said:

What what? COD is the also an SP game as FH2, FH3, Halo Wars 2 according to cainetao

Are we going to pretend that people buy COD for the single player experience? Really?

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#361 DrLostRib
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@mowgly1 said:
@drlostrib said:

did COD beat PUBG?

Did PUBG beat GTA V?

What does that matter?

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Is dynamitecop back?

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#363  Edited By cainetao11  Online
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@nepu7supastar7 said:

@cainetao11:

Of course you would take what Spencer said verbatim because the truth hurts. And it's not just Sony doing well in the Sp department, Nintendo is doing great too. Microsoft is the only company lagging and they know it! LOL As much as I love Xbox still, it's pretty sad how far they've fallen.

Halo and Gears of War used to have such awesome Sp campaigns....smh

LMAO because staying with what is actually said isn't truth? You're filling in the rest. LOL OK guy.

@mowgly1 said:
@cainetao11 said:

Glad you can.

And here is a new spin on the narrative you cows keep trying to spin. Nobody is hiding. My posts have clearly pointed out MS hasn't been good at SP games in this thread. Its like you lose all continuity of what has been said in this thread and only respond to what you wish to high light. Well, that's what you've done with the Spencer interview as well. Why are those Online MP games or COD outselling PS4 exclusives on the PS4 most years?

And why COD outselling super duper Halo 5 from space on Xbone or PUBG or GeOW?

Btw. your quote :

Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore, Halo Wars 2,FH2 and 3, Rise of the TR are all SP games they invested in.

So, COD is an SP game too. So, Phil Spencer is wrong about COD too when he said that SP games don’t have the same impact as before

Yes they invested in them. But I am not the one bashing the guy for being honest that online MP makes companies more money. You guys are. So now you're switching the narrative to this?

So you believe people buy COD for its SP campaign? Lets make sure all is clear here, ok? Because you will be held to this down the road.

I don't think Halo fans bought Halo Wars 2 for the MP. We bought it for the furthering of the Spirit of Fire and the Ark's story in the expanded universe. The MP has been a lot of fun in blitz mode though. You are trying SO hard to win instead of just staying present and that's why many are now wrecking you.

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@mowgly1 said:
@Pedro said:

What what? COD is the also an SP game as FH2, FH3, Halo Wars 2 according to cainetao

It has a SP. Show us where I said "IT IS A SP GAME", please. Your whole argument is lying and putting words in peoples mouth.

So most gamers buy FH for MP? Halo Wars 2 for MP? But COD for SP? By all means explain this to us.

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Holy shit, Cows took a nosedive in this thread... Which is fucking embarassing, cos the sales are so damn good lol.

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#366  Edited By mowgly1
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@cainetao11:

You said this :

"Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore, Halo Wars 2,FH2 and 3, Rise of the TR are all SP games they invested in."

So, that means COD is an SP game too. So, as i said :

So, Phil Spencer is wrong about COD too when he said that SP games don’t have the same impact as before. Also, new form of Xbone fans appeared when their lovely Xbone is ass kicked left and right. Now Xbone fans are hiding behind game revenues and microtransactions.

According to Xbone fans, over 1 million copies per day is also a flop. How Xbone fans can be so dumb? That's an honest question.

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#367  Edited By cainetao11  Online
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@mowgly1 said:

@cainetao11:

You said this :

"Ryse, Quantum Break, Recore, Halo Wars 2,FH2 and 3, Rise of the TR are all SP games they invested in."

So, that means COD is an SP game too. So, as i said :

So, Phil Spencer is wrong about COD too when he said that SP games don’t have the same impact as before. Also, new form of Xbone fans appeared when their lovely Xbone is ass kicked left and right. Now Xbone fans are hiding behind game revenues and microtransactions.

According to Xbone fans, over 1 million copies per day is also a flop. How Xbone fans can be so dumb? That's an honest question.

Not this year it doesn't. LOL Why would Activision be willing to drop one mode of COD this year and its the SP? Hhmm that's strange......

So because Uncharted 4 has MP you cows now consider it a viable MP game that people buy for that reason? Is that the argument now logically? LMAO

Dude you're wrecked. You're reaching so hard and now just ignoring established truths like COD is popular due to its MP not SP. And you need to lie to yourself and spin because you're in a corner.

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#368  Edited By QuadKnight
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@lundy86_4 said:

Holy shit, Cows took a nosedive in this thread... Which is fucking embarassing, cos the sales are so damn good lol.

The only thing I see here are lems rabidly damage controlling 3.1 million sold in 3 days.

They are the ones taking a nosedive trying to insinuate that this is somehow bad sales. This was supposed to be a thread to celebrate epic GOW sales and it is now a thread full of rabid lemming tears...

8 Pages of asshurt from lems who have been completely rekt by GOW sales. The game has sold faster than any exclusive game on the Flopbone and has proven that SP games are still very relevant and that Phil Spencer is an idiot. Lems should stop damage controlling and tell dumbass Phil "No Games" Spencer to release some damn quality exclusives on the FlopBox One.

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Well, to be fair, single player games would be bigger if more of them were A) available B) were of great quality. I look forward so much to single player games more and more because I am such a huge MP fan as well. After a while, you crave a great lengthy story to dig into by yourself. As I got older my playtime diminished a bit so I can look forward to playing these games in bite size pieces whereas some players plow straight through marathon style. But, GOW is also my favorite franchise so that helped. Wish more games of this level of quality would come out.

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#370 mowgly1
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@cainetao11:

Your shitty pathetic Xbone is wrecked, not me. LOL.

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@quadknight: I agree completely.

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@mowgly1 said:

@cainetao11:

Your shitty pathetic Xbone is wrecked, not me. LOL.

LOL I rest my case.

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@Pedro: Casual mention of those games does not equate the the long stay of multiplayer games. Why are you pretending that they are? This generation of gaming is more focused on multiplayer games whether you like it or not. Your memories of old games would not be the memories of gamers in this gen or last gen."

Not to mention hoe convenient it is to like old games when it fits an argument but we're blazted for actually enjoying BC

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#376  Edited By ronvalencia
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@kali-b1rd said:
@mowgly1 said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@mowgly1 said:

Because this :

Why you mentioned 80 mil. PS4s?

Because that is a lower attach rate compared to other titles? mostly MP ones?

again, none of you prove phil spencer wrong, you are just circle jerking eachother with desperate numbers and ratings. which doesn't reflect who is actually playing what.

Which is awful comparison. Phil Spencer is wrong and he literally said that SP doesn't have the impact as before. Super Mario, Zelda BOTW, Horizon Zero Dawn proved he is wrong. Now GOW also.

Why is it an awful comparison?

10-15 years ago, 5+ million sales was a big deal, on the console scene this was literally the height of popularity.

That has far since changed, it changed on PC 13 years ago with games like World of Warcraft, online shooters and then mobas and now cheaper entry games as a service that have far exploded past these pathetic numbers being posted here as "LOOK SP STILL RELEVANT LOOK".

This thread and subject crops up every few weeks from cows, its the same desperate attempt to win a losing argument on a dying forum because many peopel don't give a damn what the latest 10 hour action game sells... because it just ends up in trade in CEX or Best Buy or whatever.

The only people crying here are the ones taking it so personally that they think we are saying "SP is no longer relevant" which has not been said once, not by us, not by him.

Major PC MMOs has both SP and MP story lines. World of Warcraft has SP story for player's character i.e. it's not Rocket League pure MP. Elders Scroll Online (MMO) has both SP and MP story lines.

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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@jumpaction said:

@recloud: Not always. PUBG was the biggest seller of last year. Hit a whopping 30 million.

Not to mention it didn't take five years to make and didn't cost them, whatever GOW cost Sony, and from the looks of it that game was not cheap. Probably on par with a Marvel movie, 250 million plus to develop. Even more to market.

No it'll just take 5 years to fix it....

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@Fuhrer_D said:

~3.75% of PS4 owners purchased the game. Impact? <shrugs shoulders>

~3.75% purchased it in the first 3 days...... On planet Earth games are actually sold for longer then 3 days....

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@cainetao11: They had a sp campaign in the works for Blops4, but some development hell that we dont fully know yet got it canned and a new battle royale mode tossed in. I agree that COD is a MP first game, but the campaigns still have a big following (for some strange reason).

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#381 Bread_or_Decide
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@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@jumpaction said:

@recloud: Not always. PUBG was the biggest seller of last year. Hit a whopping 30 million.

Not to mention it didn't take five years to make and didn't cost them, whatever GOW cost Sony, and from the looks of it that game was not cheap. Probably on par with a Marvel movie, 250 million plus to develop. Even more to market.

No it'll just take 5 years to fix it....

Took a year to fix on PC. The game runs fine now.

The new problem is the rampant cheating.

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#382  Edited By scatteh316
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@Bread_or_Decide said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@jumpaction said:

@recloud: Not always. PUBG was the biggest seller of last year. Hit a whopping 30 million.

Not to mention it didn't take five years to make and didn't cost them, whatever GOW cost Sony, and from the looks of it that game was not cheap. Probably on par with a Marvel movie, 250 million plus to develop. Even more to market.

No it'll just take 5 years to fix it....

Took a year to fix on PC. The game runs fine now.

The new problem is the rampant cheating.

So why is there still people in forums complaining about issues?

And it's not just available on PC is it now ;)

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#383 Bread_or_Decide
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@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@scatteh316 said:
@Bread_or_Decide said:
@jumpaction said:

@recloud: Not always. PUBG was the biggest seller of last year. Hit a whopping 30 million.

Not to mention it didn't take five years to make and didn't cost them, whatever GOW cost Sony, and from the looks of it that game was not cheap. Probably on par with a Marvel movie, 250 million plus to develop. Even more to market.

No it'll just take 5 years to fix it....

Took a year to fix on PC. The game runs fine now.

The new problem is the rampant cheating.

So why is there still people in forums complaining about issues?

And it's not just available on PC is it now ;)

Well, it needs to be fixed on the xbox one. And people will always want certain things fixed. It did have an official release on PC and it's playable. Heck, Fortnite players are always wanting things fixed too, this is typical for these games as service.

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@vfighter said:

@cainetao11: They had a sp campaign in the works for Blops4, but some development hell that we dont fully know yet got it canned and a new battle royale mode tossed in. I agree that COD is a MP first game, but the campaigns still have a big following (for some strange reason).

I don't deny that. But the person arguing with me is going to great ignorant lengths. So if MP gets cut from a COD one year, do you think it leads that year in games sold? Not many do from the people Ive talked to.

It all starts with the interview with Phil Spencer, that hardcore cows want to take out of context for sole purpose of pointing a finger saying "Look he's wrong!!!" They do not wish to truly read what was ACTUALLY said in its full context nor have a truthful, grounded conversation about the merits and faults of the interview. No matter how great GoW, Horizon, Mario, Zelda do, one can point to companies making more money with MP games. Horizon was a massive hit and selling game that supposedly proved Spencer wrong last year but on PS4 the top selling game once again was COD.

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@ronvalencia said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@mowgly1 said:
@kali-b1rd said:
@mowgly1 said:

Because this :

Why you mentioned 80 mil. PS4s?

Because that is a lower attach rate compared to other titles? mostly MP ones?

again, none of you prove phil spencer wrong, you are just circle jerking eachother with desperate numbers and ratings. which doesn't reflect who is actually playing what.

Which is awful comparison. Phil Spencer is wrong and he literally said that SP doesn't have the impact as before. Super Mario, Zelda BOTW, Horizon Zero Dawn proved he is wrong. Now GOW also.

Why is it an awful comparison?

10-15 years ago, 5+ million sales was a big deal, on the console scene this was literally the height of popularity.

That has far since changed, it changed on PC 13 years ago with games like World of Warcraft, online shooters and then mobas and now cheaper entry games as a service that have far exploded past these pathetic numbers being posted here as "LOOK SP STILL RELEVANT LOOK".

This thread and subject crops up every few weeks from cows, its the same desperate attempt to win a losing argument on a dying forum because many peopel don't give a damn what the latest 10 hour action game sells... because it just ends up in trade in CEX or Best Buy or whatever.

The only people crying here are the ones taking it so personally that they think we are saying "SP is no longer relevant" which has not been said once, not by us, not by him.

Major PC MMOs has both SP and MP story lines. World of Warcraft has SP story for player's character i.e. it's not Rocket League pure MP. Elders Scroll Online (MMO) has both SP and MP story lines.

So does Diablo.

I gaurentee you that aint the main draw.