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Hi, I'm from Singapore. Been at Gamespot here for around two years. Great site IMO, love the reviews, the news, the only game-site only that does video-reviews that well, I suppose. ( i really enjoy the video reviews) Forgive me for not being a subscriber, at 19 years of age, its hard to convince my parents to lend me their credit cards to pay for my gaming needs.

A little history

I'd like to share a bit about gaming in my county, Singapore. Singapore is located in Asia, south-east. I don't know if many Americans know where Singapore is (due to the shocking fact that 20% of Americans do not know where America is on the map, which i find disturbing...) But we're a little country with a small population of 4million and a land size 1/6000 that of the US.

Alright, lets get back to gaming.Upon reading the title of the thread, probably you would have get the impression that the 360 doesn't dominate here, while the PS3 & Wii does. To an extent, thats true. Not only does the 360 not sell here, the original xbox didn't quite make an impact as well. The Sony playstations are selling, PSPs too. While the DS are being sold of the shelves like hotcakes here. The Wii doesn't though, for price reasons.

Unlike America, Video games were widely introduce during the 1990-2000 period, where Singapore was getting towards the "developed country" stage, like US, like UK. The most popular console here then was the playstation. Well this was helped that pirated games were all over the country, which did the same for the playstation 2. But that problem is being tackled now as the country is doingquite abit to stop pirating.

This is similar in other Asia countries too, piracy has help the playstation. People do not mind spending a few hundred on a console which games are selling at 5 US dollars in the black market. Same goes for the playstation 2.

In some ways, this has all turned Asians into Cows. Yep.

The games that Asians play

I'm sure many Game-spotters have written articles about JRPG vs Western RPG. Well the fact is Asians love their culture, they love their traditions. So do I. With all due respect, Oblivon is a great game. But it does not sell here in Asia, games like Final Fantasy will sell, games like monster hunter freedom 2 havesold. Well, its like Asians would prefer casting spells, summoning Bahamut than playing a knight, defending a castle. etc. Another example, Asians would play Bleach: Heat the soul ~ over Marvel vs Capcom. They would prefer naruto. They would prefer DJ max portable over other DJ games that the US offer.

Animae (*** cartoons) have played quite a big role in influencing Asians.

Most Asians grow up without video games, thats why Pokemon can be so addictive, thats why Bleach amazes us (anyway do check out Bleach will ya? It has better graphics than Tekken even, i promise).

Thats why games, despite receiving low scores from the US games industry (e.g. monsterhunterfreedom 1), will continue to be produce and distributed to Asian countries.

Asia has 2.4 billion people. Thats a very large market you're looking at.

Why the DS sells, the psp too!

Pokemon, does it ring a bell?

The PSP has always been a first choice portable gaming console for all Asians. Games like Naruto, Monster Hunter, FinalFantasy 1 & 2 and above listed are games which have and will continue to draw Asians to the PSP. Cause we're fans of it.

The DS on the other hand, sells due to its simplicity. There's no software update, there isn't a need to add a memory stick, plug and play cartridges. Cooking mama sells doesn't it? Because girls here find the big eye lady in the game"cute". Nintendogs, it gives us Asians who missed out on the "Tamagochi"craze 10 years ago another chance at having an toy dog.

It maybe childish, but Asian girls love cute things, they love doramon, they love cooking mama. They love puzzles such as Brain age, which is not a game even. That sells the DS.

What about the 360!? Don't you guys play bioshock, gears?

The mentality of gamers here is that, we'll make do with what we have. We'll enjoy what we have. If we don't, its alright.

Americans are enjoying world of warcraft, but Asians are playing Maplestory, Gunbound, cause they're free. We're playing lots of PS2 games, still. Cause the PS2 is worthy buying because it has lots of games. The DS is worth buying? why? because it has pokemon. 1000 hours of gameplay in catchin' em' all. We like the PSP, cause it can do lots of stuff other than games.

Asians, Singaporeans in particular, are "kiasu". We want the best out of everything. We're more than happy with multiplatform games.

But the thing is, we can do without the 360.

Why? Gears & bioshock !?

Yes I know, the best selling games, gears and bioshock. Bioshock just reached 1.5million. Yes. But the thing is, they're available on the PC. As I've said, Asians want to get the best out of everything, we don't mind waiting too. The main point is ... the 360 cannot offer us a strong reason to love it.

You gotta love bioshock?

Yep, I do love it, playing it on the PC, bioshock PCis retailing at SGD 60 here. Which is around USD 38. Thats great for us folks here. Even through steam is USD 50. Its cheaper than the 360 version too.

What about gears? Common man', game of the year!

Its coming to the PC too, and I get extra levels! Yes, Asians don't mind waiting. It'll probably be better on the PC as well, in terms of graphics.

What about other games?! Exclusives? Forza?

Well, Halo, Halo2, Shadowrun is all on the PC? Oh yes, i get to play Lost planet too, in DIRECTX10 graphics. Ok, fine, 360 has forza, has saint's row. But being an Asian, I can do without those that I have a "compliment for". Its like ... I'm Asian. I have GTA, why should i play saint's row? I have GT in HD, why should I purchase Forza?

DAMMIT, you're missing out on LIVE!

Nope, sad to say, Microsoft did a very poor job on Xbox live here. You see, lets say I do get xbox live, who am I gonna play with? There ain't much people "live" on xbox live you see. There's very little life in Xbox live in the Asian market. Why? Because it requires $$$. I know it isn't much. But its not worth, because I won't be spending all my time playing. I've gotta work and feed the kids.

You're missing out on a lot of multiplayer fun, kid...

Well, there're lots of great single player games out there. Plus, even if i do get Live. Even if I do get connected into a server, I'll probably be flamed for my lagbecause i'm connected 5000miles awayfrom Singapore ... I won't be enjoying the multiplayer, so I won't mind missing it

Well, we have recorded stats there

Ok, I'll have to miss out on that

we have videos there too...

there's always game spot.. I don't mind viewing in low res.

we have demos there too.. you can't argue can you.

Well, i'll wait for the whole game to be out? I forgot to mention, there aren'tlarge franchiseshops purely delicated to selling games here, like gamestop in the US. But we do have many small individual retailers selling games. Therefore, its a personalise service. We get to try, run the game, to ensure they're no scratches on the disks, the game works perfectly fine, before we purchase it. We get to test run the consoles before we bring them home.

What makes you think the PS3 IS GONNA SELL THERE THEN?

Erm, because it has?

ok fine. I listed why 360 doesn't sell here, games going to the PC, xbox live not attractive, the price isn't too (its more expensive than the PS3 here), microsoft's service here isn't good (you get the 3 rings you've to send it to the US yourself), its just a dvd player.

why the ps3 then?

1) Exclusives that drives us Asians crazy. We love final fantasy,we love kojima and his MGS, we love Square's list of RPGs. We love GT (because it has more asian cars than forza does)

2) Multiplat games. With the ps3, i get to enjoy gta4, re5, dmc4 just like the 360 users does too.

3) blueray. I have a blueray machine!!! I don't have to buy an extra hDdvd. Unreal Tourny 3 for me will be on a single disk. Haven you heard? 360 gonna get less maps cause its a dvd, or else it'll be multidisk. I can't imagine getting off the crouch to change disk because I selected a map which is on disk 2 !!! Oh yes, I'll be using a keyboard and mouse to play unreal 3 .. I'll be having MODS too ...the 360 can't ..

Hey bro, you forgot one thing, multiplats are better on the 360 ... you know that..

Yes i do, "skate" got a better score on 360 than ps3. But the thing is ... I don't play skate. Asians won't buy a 360 because it has a better score than the ps3 in "skate". We win some, we lose some. Oblivon came to the ps3 with extras, 360 users will get their extras too, but thats after 6 months. Everyone has to wait, don't they.

ps3 has lots of flops

we don't care about flops ... flops are merely low scores given to games that we like. Monster hunter for PSP. gamespot gave it low, but its best selling in Japan? What does this say. We just enjoy our games.

NO HALO3 FOR YOU

Common' .. its produced by microsoft game studios, you're telling me it won't appear on the PC?

I'm Asian and i'll wait...

I mean, whats with halo? Its really the most hyped game in history. Halo 2 on the PC looked like the original halflife to me. The graphics were, that bad. I mean it really. I'm so angry, a waste of my money. But what was i expecting, True HD graphics? halo2 was on the original xbox, i forgot...

360 still owns ps3 in America

Yes yes i know. Worldwide sales 360 still pwns ps3. But as you know, Asians are waiters. We're waiting for mgs4, ff13, and other games. We're waiting for, maybe a sllim ps3? haha. But in the end, we'll get our ps3s, don't you worry.

Every month, you look at sales from America, Canada, Australia, Uk. But what about Asia. What about 2billion + people here in Asia. I know MS doesn't give a hoot. Sony does, nintendo does, thats why *** games are still popular among asians, thats why month after month top selling games in *** are allJap-co games.

Bleh, you play 360 games on your PC, you're a hermit too..

Everyone owns a PC, don't they.

You don't need a top end PC. Heard of those $1000 gaming PC?

Watever, you just sum up.

ok fine. As usual. I'll have to take out watever flame/ice/water shield that i have.

I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.

We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...

But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above.

Yes, maybe you've gotton the idea that we don't mind waiting. Truth is, we do mind, just that to us its more important to get our money's worth. Thats why we wait.

Wii is selling well too, in america, europe .. but not here. Its extremely expensive here. about 350 US dollars ..

But for us Asians, the best bargain is the ps3, games, online wifi, free online gaming, blueray, .. we'll play 360 games on the pc..

comments and flames ... please.

i would like to emphasis this last points again

"I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.

We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...

But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above."

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MS rules the world, or will atleast

and no its not funny

only linux can stop this massacre...

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NO HALO 3 FOR YOU!!!!!:evil:

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We dont really care where your from....can you sum all your toughts on a singles paragraph?:?
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well .. no one has posted anything solid.

The only solid post would be the lair's floppage.

Lair plays horrible, I do admit

Others are all ... posts by people who have nothing to argue.

Isn't that the truth?

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Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

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well .. no one has posted anything solid.

The only solid post would be the lair's floppage.

Lair plays horrible, I do admit

Others are all ... posts by people who have nothing to argue.

Isn't that the truth?

weiliang_1988

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

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Holy hell..heard of a blog?
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Send your whine to MS andwrite your own OS in the garage Amen.

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That's stupid.

There's really no reason to get a Ps3 then.

No one agrees with you: You bashed multiplayer, a thing here which many people love. You are missing out. I really kind of distrusted whatever you said next, because you don't know what it's like to really play games. You are onlyplaying playing 1/2 of the games - the single player games.

The main highpoints of the Ps3 hopefully, is Home. Home is multiplayer based. You hate multiplayer? Comon.

Warhawk is one of the best games on the PS3 - also multiplayer based.

You bash Xbox360 and glorify ps3 and singleplayer -- yet the 360/Wii has the best single player games.

sigh

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Hi, I'm from Singapore. Been at Gamespot here for around two years. Great site IMO, love the reviews, the news, the only game-site only that does video-reviews that well, I suppose. ( i really enjoy the video reviews) Forgive me for not being a subscriber, at 19 years of age, its hard to convince my parents to lend me their credit cards to pay for my gaming needs.

A little history

I'd like to share a bit about gaming in my county, Singapore. Singapore is located in Asia, south-east. I don't know if many Americans know where Singapore is (due to the shocking fact that 20% of Americans do not know where America is on the map, which i find disturbing...) But we're a little country with a small population of 4million and a land size 1/6000 that of the US.

Alright, lets get back to gaming.Upon reading the title of the thread, probably you would have get the impression that the 360 doesn't dominate here, while the PS3 & Wii does. To an extent, thats true. Not only does the 360 not sell here, the original xbox didn't quite make an impact as well. The Sony playstations are selling, PSPs too. While the DS are being sold of the shelves like hotcakes here. The Wii doesn't though, for price reasons.

Unlike America, Video games were widely introduce during the 1990-2000 period, where Singapore was getting towards the "developed country" stage, like US, like UK. The most popular console here then was the playstation. Well this was helped that pirated games were all over the country, which did the same for the playstation 2. But that problem is being tackled now as the country is doingquite abit to stop pirating.

This is similar in other Asia countries too, piracy has help the playstation. People do not mind spending a few hundred on a console which games are selling at 5 US dollars in the black market. Same goes for the playstation 2.

In some ways, this has all turned Asians into Cows. Yep.

The games that Asians play

I'm sure many Game-spotters have written articles about JRPG vs Western RPG. Well the fact is Asians love their culture, they love their traditions. So do I. With all due respect, Oblivon is a great game. But it does not sell here in Asia, games like Final Fantasy will sell, games like monster hunter freedom 2 havesold. Well, its like Asians would prefer casting spells, summoning Bahamut than playing a knight, defending a castle. etc. Another example, Asians would play Bleach: Heat the soul ~ over Marvel vs Capcom. They would prefer naruto. They would prefer DJ max portable over other DJ games that the US offer.

Animae (*** cartoons) have played quite a big role in influencing Asians.

Most Asians grow up without video games, thats why Pokemon can be so addictive, thats why Bleach amazes us (anyway do check out Bleach will ya? It has better graphics than Tekken even, i promise).

Thats why games, despite receiving low scores from the US games industry (e.g. monsterhunterfreedom 1), will continue to be produce and distributed to Asian countries.

Asia has 2.4 billion people. Thats a very large market you're looking at.

Why the DS sells, the psp too!

Pokemon, does it ring a bell?

The PSP has always been a first choice portable gaming console for all Asians. Games like Naruto, Monster Hunter, FinalFantasy 1 & 2 and above listed are games which have and will continue to draw Asians to the PSP. Cause we're fans of it.

The DS on the other hand, sells due to its simplicity. There's no software update, there isn't a need to add a memory stick, plug and play cartridges. Cooking mama sells doesn't it? Because girls here find the big eye lady in the game"cute". Nintendogs, it gives us Asians who missed out on the "Tamagochi" **** 10 years ago another chance at having an toy dog.

It maybe childish, but Asian girls love cute things, they love doramon, they love cooking mama. They love puzzles such as Brain age, which is not a game even. That sells the DS.

What about the 360!? Don't you guys play bioshock, gears?

The mentality of gamers here is that, we'll make do with what we have. We'll enjoy what we have. If we don't, its alright.

Americans are enjoying world of warcraft, but Asians are playing Maplestory, Gunbound, cause they're free. We're playing lots of PS2 games, still. Cause the PS2 is worthy buying because it has lots of games. The DS is worth buying? why? because it has pokemon. 1000 hours of gameplay in catchin' em' all. We like the PSP, cause it can do lots of stuff other than games.

Asians, Singaporeans in particular, are "kiasu". We want the best out of everything. We're more than happy with multiplatform games.

But the thing is, we can do without the 360.

Why? Gears & bioshock !?

Yes I know, the best selling games, gears and bioshock. Bioshock just reached 1.5million. Yes. But the thing is, they're available on the PC. As I've said, Asians want to get the best out of everything, we don't mind waiting too. The main point is ... the 360 cannot offer us a strong reason to love it.

You gotta love bioshock?

Yep, I do love it, playing it on the PC, bioshock PCis retailing at SGD 60 here. Which is around USD 38. Thats great for us folks here. Even through steam is USD 50. Its cheaper than the 360 version too.

What about gears? Common man', game of the year!

Its coming to the PC too, and I get extra levels! Yes, Asians don't mind waiting. It'll probably be better on the PC as well, in terms of graphics.

What about other games?! Exclusives? Forza?

Well, Halo, Halo2, Shadowrun is all on the PC? Oh yes, i get to play Lost planet too, in DIRECTX10 graphics. Ok, fine, 360 has forza, has saint's row. But being an Asian, I can do without those that I have a "compliment for". Its like ... I'm Asian. I have GTA, why should i play saint's row? I have GT in HD, why should I purchase Forza?

DAMMIT, you're missing out on LIVE!

Nope, sad to say, Microsoft did a very poor job on Xbox live here. You see, lets say I do get xbox live, who am I gonna play with? There ain't much people "live" on xbox live you see. There's very little life in Xbox live in the Asian market. Why? Because it requires $$$. I know it isn't much. But its not worth, because I won't be spending all my time playing. I've gotta work and feed the kids.

You're missing out on a lot of multiplayer fun, kid...

Well, there're lots of great single player games out there. Plus, even if i do get Live. Even if I do get connected into a server, I'll probably be flamed for my lagbecause i'm connected 5000miles awayfrom Singapore ... I won't be enjoying the multiplayer, so I won't mind missing it

Well, we have recorded stats there

Ok, I'll have to miss out on that

we have videos there too...

there's always game spot.. I don't mind viewing in low res.

we have demos there too.. you can't argue can you.

Well, i'll wait for the whole game to be out? I forgot to mention, there aren'tlarge franchiseshops purely delicated to selling games here, like gamestop in the US. But we do have many small individual retailers selling games. Therefore, its a personalise service. We get to try, run the game, to ensure they're no scratches on the disks, the game works perfectly fine, before we purchase it. We get to test run the consoles before we bring them home.

What makes you think the PS3 IS GONNA SELL THERE THEN?

Erm, because it has?

ok fine. I listed why 360 doesn't sell here, games going to the PC, xbox live not attractive, the price isn't too (its more expensive than the PS3 here), microsoft's service here isn't good (you get the 3 rings you've to send it to the US yourself), its just a dvd player.

why the ps3 then?

1) Exclusives that drives us Asians crazy. We love final fantasy,we love kojima and his MGS, we love Square's list of RPGs. We love GT (because it has more asian cars than forza does)

2) Multiplat games. With the ps3, i get to enjoy gta4, re5, dmc4 just like the 360 users does too.

3) blueray. I have a blueray machine!!! I don't have to buy an extra hDdvd. Unreal Tourny 3 for me will be on a single disk. Haven you heard? 360 gonna get less maps cause its a dvd, or else it'll be multidisk. I can't imagine getting off the crouch to change disk because I selected a map which is on disk 2 !!! Oh yes, I'll be using a keyboard and mouse to play unreal 3 .. I'll be having MODS too ...the 360 can't ..

Hey bro, you forgot one thing, multiplats are better on the 360 ... you know that..

Yes i do, "skate" got a better score on 360 than ps3. But the thing is ... I don't play skate. Asians won't buy a 360 because it has a better score than the ps3 in "skate". We win some, we lose some. Oblivon came to the ps3 with extras, 360 users will get their extras too, but thats after 6 months. Everyone has to wait, don't they.

ps3 has lots of flops

we don't care about flops ... flops are merely low scores given to games that we like. Monster hunter for PSP. gamespot gave it low, but its best selling in Japan? What does this say. We just enjoy our games.

NO HALO3 FOR YOU

Common' .. its produced by microsoft game studios, you're telling me it won't appear on the PC?

I'm Asian and i'll wait...

I mean, whats with halo? Its really the most hyped game in history. Halo 2 on the PC looked like the original halflife to me. The graphics were, that bad. I mean it really. I'm so angry, a waste of my money. But what was i expecting, True HD graphics? halo2 was on the original xbox, i forgot...

360 still owns ps3 in America

Yes yes i know. Worldwide sales 360 still pwns ps3. But as you know, Asians are waiters. We're waiting for mgs4, ff13, and other games. We're waiting for, maybe a sllim ps3? haha. But in the end, we'll get our ps3s, don't you worry.

Every month, you look at sales from America, Canada, Australia, Uk. But what about Asia. What about 2billion + people here in Asia. I know MS doesn't give a hoot. Sony does, nintendo does, thats why *** games are still popular among asians, thats why month after month top selling games in *** are allJap-co games.

Bleh, you play 360 games on your PC, you're a hermit too..

Everyone owns a PC, don't they.

You don't need a top end PC. Heard of those $1000 gaming PC?

Watever, you just sum up.

ok fine. As usual. I'll have to take out watever flame/ice/water shield that i have.

I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.

We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...

But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above.

Yes, maybe you've gotton the idea that we don't mind waiting. Truth is, we do mind, just that to us its more important to get our money's worth. Thats why we wait.

Wii is selling well too, in america, europe .. but not here. Its extremely expensive here. about 350 US dollars ..

But for us Asians, the best bargain is the ps3, games, online wifi, free online gaming, blueray, .. we'll play 360 games on the pc..

comments and flames ... please.

i would like to emphasis this last points again

"I'm just trying to voice out that in this part of the world, in Asia, Microsoft doesn't stand a chance with the 360.

We're all victims of the molopoly that Microsoft have with windows ...

But given the 360/ps3/wii , we have a choice, and us Asians would go for the ps3 with the reasons listed as above."

weiliang_1988

You are right about almost everything. The ps3 will not sell because it hasnt yet been able to run pirated games. I live in malaysia(a country that has one of the worlds highest piracy problems) and i can tell you that piracy is what saved the playstation brand in Asia(excluding japan)

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Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

coakroach

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

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That's stupid.

There's really no reason to get a Ps3 then.

No one agrees with you: You bashed multiplayer, a thing here which many people love. You are missing out. I really kind of distrusted whatever you said next, because you don't know what it's like to really play games. You are onlyplaying playing 1/2 of the games - the single player games.

The main highpoints of the Ps3 hopefully, is Home. Home is multiplayer based. You hate multiplayer? Comon.

Warhawk is one of the best games on the PS3 - also multiplayer based.

You bash Xbox360 and glorify ps3 and singleplayer -- yet the 360/Wii has the best single player games.

sigh

The_Nemacyst

nope, i didn't bash multi, i bashed xbox live not doing well in asia.

the ps3 online is great though. cause its free to everyone.

I'm just surprised the max no. of ppl they can have in a warhawk clan is 29, not 64 like the max in the game.

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#17 coakroach
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[QUOTE="coakroach"]

Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

weiliang_1988

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

Dont bag america, this is system wars not the UN

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#18 The_Nemacyst
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[QUOTE="coakroach"]

Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

weiliang_1988

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

well no kidding that microsoft doesnt own the world. Since when? 10 million xbox360's is not the whole world.

Everyone knows that, but what the people in System wars cares about is games and not sales.

Microsoft currently owns the world in games. Microsoft owns Windows Vista, which has DX10, and many games for Vista - which means they almostdominate PC. The PC, the system that gets the MOST AAA games.

They also own Xbox360: The system that gets the 2nd most AAA games.

They are pretty much owning it up in games.

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[QUOTE="coakroach"]

Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

weiliang_1988

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

still nothing to argue about

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[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"][QUOTE="coakroach"]

Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

coakroach

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

Dont bag america, this is system wars not the UN

Nice one LOL

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#21 mubarakibnumar
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[QUOTE="weiliang_1988"][QUOTE="coakroach"]

Asia doesnt like the 360

We get it

At least everyone will speak the same language when i play halo 3 on xbox live

coakroach

thats true. you don't want koreans blasting into the mic i suppose.

cause u give nothing to argue,

'i live in singapore bla bla bla'

i dont even know you posted this in SW

Kaosed

no .. my stand in the last para was that MS doesn't own the world, only america...

about the singapore thing, thats where I live, at least i know where my country is on the map.

Dont bag america, this is system wars not the UN

Nice one LOL

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#22 deactivated-5cc4321d1eaf7
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muba thats actually something good and bad. Bad is thatit encouragespiracy.Singapore has weeded out priacy, so the only way to get something illigal is to go to malaysia. The good is that having played on the ps and ps2, people will then go for the ps3, which is non-pirated.
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Very interesting post but a waste here with MS fanboys saying who cares, the US only matters.
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You must have an inmense ammount of time in your hands to think and write so much Bs....:lol:
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You must have an inmense ammount of time in your hands to think and write so much Bs....:lol:Art_424

Like you would know, your probably not Asian so how can you talk?

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There must be a hefty fine for playing an Xbox360 there in Singapore...

;)

jk :P

It's all good. Singapore is cool.

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#27 deactivated-5cc4321d1eaf7
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The stubborness & igonaranceof someAmericans.

Very interesting post but a waste here with MS fanboys saying who cares, the US only matters.Nintendo_Man

Check out the top selling games since games were born.

Only halo is there among the top 25. and its like .. 20th?

10million 360 + 23 million xbox is nothing compared to 250million ps1 + ps2 sold over the past 10 years...

don't bring games in.

FF12 got AAA last november while the xbox was already history

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Entertaining post, and I own a 360 and high-end PC. It's cool to see another perspective. Ignore the ADD-afflicted children who can't read past a sentence, they're all over this forum.
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#29 exiledsnake
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i can say that most of the points are true. But in Malaysia Wii and X360 are selling cheaper than the PS3 and better off in sales too. But its kinda weird that wii and x360 are priced almost the same. And people who buy consoles in Asia are very well informed because of our kiasu attitude(want to have the best of everything).
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#30 Art_424
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[QUOTE="Art_424"]You must have an inmense ammount of time in your hands to think and write so much Bs....:lol:Nintendo_Man

Like you would know, your probably not Asian so how can you talk?

Well, you should post, "Asians Only" thread!:lol:

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That 20% statistic is BS you DO know that? :?

Anyways a lot of your points are valid, however I doubt you, as a individual can truthfully convey the thoughts and preferences of 2 BILLON asian people. You only live in one small asian country, it's silly to speak like your representing all asians. Just because a lot of asian like a game people doesn't make it quality :|

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Who cares?DXGreat1_HGL

Wow. She's just made one of the best posts in SW history, and that's the best you can come up with? Really? This is what makes me sick of SW, I'm glad I have to take a break for 3 or so days.

BTW, that was really interesting, and a great read. Thanks!

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#33 Kaosed
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The stubborness & igonaranceof someAmericans.

[QUOTE="Nintendo_Man"]Very interesting post but a waste here with MS fanboys saying who cares, the US only matters.weiliang_1988

Check out the top selling games since games were born.

Only halo is there among the top 25. and its like .. 20th?

10million 360 + 23 million xbox is nothing compared to 250million ps1 + ps2 sold over the past 10 years...

don't bring games in.

FF12 got AAA last november while the xbox was already history

you forgot to space in the *ignorant americans* part

clear flaimbait

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#34 Wil4hire
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Wow. Halobois are ignorant. I guess no one saying anything outside of the world of 360/HALO has no clue. Typical American's. Good luck w/global sales. Enjoy your 360, while the world gamers enjoy everything.
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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]Who cares?ShmenonPie

Wow. She's just made one of the best posts in SW history, and that's the best you can come up with? Really? This is what makes me sick of SW, I'm glad I have to take a break for 3 or so days.

BTW, that was really interesting, and a great read. Thanks!

i'm a HE, btw, if you confused the avatar

thank you...

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muba thats actually something good and bad. Bad is thatit encouragespiracy.Singapore has weeded out priacy, so the only way to get something illigal is to go to malaysia. The good is that having played on the ps and ps2, people will then go for the ps3, which is non-pirated.weiliang_1988

the thing is the ps3 is way too expensive and the software isnt cheap enough for the majority of the gamers in Asia. The way most asians view the next gen consoles race is Why should they buy a console for $650(ps3) and $70 per software(price in malaysia)when they can go and get a modded console and pay $1 for a piece of gaming software?(xbox360,and Wii)

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Wow. Halobois are ignorant. I guess no one saying anything outside of the world of 360/HALO has no clue. Typical American's. Good luck w/global sales. Enjoy your 360, while the world gamers enjoy everything.Wil4hire

WTH is up with all this 'ignorant American' BS? 360 games appeal to Americans big deal, how many of you american bashers have even been to the US?

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Entertaining post, and I own a 360 and high-end PC. It's cool to see another perspective. Ignore the ADD-afflicted children who can't read past a sentence, they're all over this forum. Zeliard9
You said It. I'm giving up on SW.. too much for me to take.
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#39 gingerdivid
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Ignore everyone. That was a great and enlightening post.
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#40 ZeroCrack1412
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I am from asia, vietnam to be extact everyone that i know either own a playstation or a gaming pc. no one have a xbox where i live and some ppl dont even know there is a another console call xbox. this was 3 years ago, i dont live in vietnam anymore. they simply just wasnt care much about xbox cause they dont like FPS,ppl prefer RPG and PS deliever lot of great RPG fanchise, another thing that they dont have is live,which is make xbox pretty popular. it cost a lot just to afford a console.
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#41 Zhengi
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Yeah, this is partly the reason why I'm more inclined in getting a PS3 than a 360. Just not enough variety and I can wait for the games to come out.

Also, can you evaluate a bit more on the Wii? You say it's more expensive, but I assume you're comparing the PS2 to the Wii. How's that doing over there?

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Hi, I'm from America, home of the free and land of the brave! You sir are on an American web site, thus making you a guest of our great nation. What happens in Singapore has no bearing here and really no impact. I really don't care what does or doesn't sell there or what games are popular. I live in America, I care about what happens here, I guess I'm funny that way.
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[QUOTE="Wil4hire"]Wow. Halobois are ignorant. I guess no one saying anything outside of the world of 360/HALO has no clue. Typical American's. Good luck w/global sales. Enjoy your 360, while the world gamers enjoy everything.Kritical_Strike

WTH is up with all this 'ignorant American' BS? 360 games appeal to Americans big deal, how many of you american bashers have even been to the US?

* Put both hands up *

I've been to america ! love it. Went LA and LV

LOL .. cool it man. I'm not bashing America, I love america for the carl's Jr burgers, as well as bringing basketball into my life. I ain't bashing nobody expect people who don't know where their country is on the map.

Erm I'm speaking up for Asians, because we kinda think alike and know what in general what Asians wan in terms for Gaming... so its interesting to see all these different opinions going on about SW between Americans among themselves and against themselves.

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#45 deactivated-5cc4321d1eaf7
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Hi, I'm from America, home of the free and land of the brave! You sir are on an American web site, thus making you a guest of our great nation. What happens in Singapore has no bearing here and really no impact. I really don't care what does or doesn't sell there or what games are popular. I live in America, I care about what happens here, I guess I'm funny that way.  Heil68

lol .. love that. ok .. I like your POV, very American. (no offence to anyone else)

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[QUOTE="DXGreat1_HGL"]Who cares?ShmenonPie

Wow. She's just made one of the best posts in SW history, and that's the best you can come up with? Really? This is what makes me sick of SW, I'm glad I have to take a break for 3 or so days.

BTW, that was really interesting, and a great read. Thanks!

'She' didn't make much of a point at all, he just typed a lot of words that could've been summed up in two paragraphs :|

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#47 FrozenLiquid
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I'm sorry TC, you're lacing your culture with twisted facts.

You're also trying to sell your opinion like it's every other Asians' opinion.

You forgot that while you thought you could fool the stereotypical 'ignorant American' (which I can assure you, a lot of these aren't), you're not fooling a NZer who has relatives living in Malaysia, the UK, Germany basically the whole world (Yeah, the my family dominates lol).

Yes, the Xbox is not selling, but it's not entirely for the reasons you're trying to put across.

Asians like waiting? Is that why they scrounge around Pasam Alams (think it's spelt like that. Black Markets btw Westerners) looking for Vista before it was even officially released? Or walk home with a copy of Gran Turismo days after it was released at the most?

XBL lag problem? Is that why Asians don't like Live? I'm sorry, but from NZ, when I play those in America or even France, the lag isn't that bad. And you're closer to Europe than I am.

And don't try pass off that Asians don't like XBL because you have to pay. Truth is, no one likes to pay if they can get something free (perhaps legal as well).

Then you went on this weird tangent that the PS3 will still sell like hotcakes when you established the fact that the reason the Playstation brand went popular was because of pirated games. It won't, because like you implied, the PS2 is sufficient enough for now, and it's a helluva lot cheaper.

Nice try, but you didn't fool me.

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#48 glitchgeeman
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Give the guy a break, it's true and you guys are going to have to accept it. MS does a horribly s**tty job when it comes to marketing in Asia. China, Japan, Singapore, if it's an Asian country, MS has no freaking idea how to catch the audience's eye. I only have experience with China and Singapore, but for the most part, he's right, it's mostly Sony and Nintendo controlled considering how easy it is to pirate Playstation 1+2 games and Nintendo's handhelds are commonplace (also because of the easily accessible pirated games). If MS wants to win Asian, they're going to have to work harder, advertize better, and give them the same level of treatment we get here in America.

However, please don't generalize us all. Maybe it's because I was born in America, but I sure as hell don't like waiting and while I love childishly cute things, I also have a penchant for chainsaw bayonets, guys in diver's suits, and explosions in general.

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#49 gingerdivid
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Hi, I'm from America, home of the free and land of the brave! You sir are on an American web site, thus making you a guest of our great nation. What happens in Singapore has no bearing here and really no impact. I really don't care what does or doesn't sell there or what games are popular. I live in America, I care about what happens here, I guess I'm funny that way.  Heil68

Meh, England > America :P

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#50 Kritical_Strike
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[QUOTE="Kritical_Strike"]

[QUOTE="Wil4hire"]Wow. Halobois are ignorant. I guess no one saying anything outside of the world of 360/HALO has no clue. Typical American's. Good luck w/global sales. Enjoy your 360, while the world gamers enjoy everything.weiliang_1988

WTH is up with all this 'ignorant American' BS? 360 games appeal to Americans big deal, how many of you american bashers have even been to the US?

* Put both hands up *

I've been to america ! love it. Went LA and LV

LOL .. cool it man. I'm not bashing America, I love america for the carl's Jr burgers, as well as bringing basketball into my life. I ain't bashing nobody expect people who don't know where their country is on the map.

Erm I'm speaking up for Asians, because we kinda think alike and know what in general what Asians wan in terms for Gaming... so its interesting to see all these different opinions going on about SW between Americans among themselves and against themselves.

It's funny how you call them all 'Ignorant Americans', why don't you just say ignorant people? Why do you have to target the US in particular. The truth is, I'm from New Zealand, (lived in the US for 8 years) I'm just pointing out that it's quite childish to target a country everytime you see a flaw in someone else.