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That is something I can agree with. It's a nice description, and a needed one, but I believe they could've found some way to push it in.[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
I'm sorry but that explanation is so lame. They shouldn't have even put that stuff in the game if they weren't going to answer it properly.
TrapJak
Exactly. My money says they ran out of time.
[QUOTE="WilliamRLBaker"]I've yet to play it so I cannot say but I can put some logic into things I believe most cows deep down knew it was a bad game which is why they reacted so badly when gears 3 was scored higher....they knew deep down in their hearts it wasn't that good of a game so they reacted so strongly as though it was a flop and reacted so strongly when lemmings called it flop...when infact lemmings were the least represented in the hype thread.
KevinButlerVP
well 93>91 so technically U3 is the better game according to the majority of reviewers
Its majority of reviewers when it suits you, "Only gamespot scores count" when they dont. FAnboys are crazy. Its obvious U3 is a good game. Whether people like it or not is opinion. All the reviews have the general consensus that it is a solid/fun game.
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Let it go. "the aiming was a bit off": while aiming is big in games, still doesnt mean the whole game is trash. "The story is too slow to get going": not everyone likes feeling like they are in a non-stop michael bay movie.
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U1, u2 and u3 are three of the reasons I want a ps3, and I have only WATCHED people play these games. Just let it go.
- HOWEVER: Please psfans, don't act like people are not allowed to dislike the game. GTA 4 scored a 10 at GS, and I couldnt stand it enough to finish it. So scores dont mean everything. And also, WHY THE **** DOES EVERYONE KEEP COMPARING Uncharted to Gears? Cause they are third person?? so is dark souls, maybe you should compare them too.
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[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
SO what about the card in cutters pocket, how talbot got shot and nothing happened, how he could vanish, what about drakes real name? there are huge problems in the story and and uncharted game to suddenly become ambiguous is stupid. Its not good at it
seanmcloughlin
The card in Cutters pocket was explained by Amy Hennig but they should have had some sort of explanation in game. Marlow and Talbot's intentions were never fleshed out. How Talbot was able to vanish and how he survived was never explained. But other than that everything else is fine. I thought it was good that they never mentioned Nate's REAL name. Because it didn't matter. He left that behind, he truly did earn the name Drake. And that's who he is.
It's not as much of a mess as you or others would like to say it is. You can say some of us are in denial. I clearly am not, but I still prefer Uncharted 3 Drake's Deception over Uncharted 2 Among Thieves (which still holds up incredibly well)
Ok the name thing I can get by. But having to explain things in a damn twitter feed is unacceptable. For any game ever. If there are questions raised in a game they should be resolved by games end. Especially an Uncharted game that never ends on a cliffhanger. Also her explanations on twitter were just bad anyway "a bullet proof vest and an escape wire" I mean come on. That's just lame. I know its a logical explanation but with so much mystery around their characters she could have tried a little harder. She just didn't have a good way to explain it so said "its often a logical answer" either way its ignorant to explain parts of your game in a twitter feed and not the game itself
I agree with this. I have not played U3, but anytime a game/movie does this, it loses most of its stories "impact" when average people have to go digging around on websites to find out what just happened in their movie/game. - Unless you gain the information in the moment, when still affected by intesity/emotion of said game/movie, the "experience" is lost. Good to be able to find answers, but they should have been in the game from the begining. Honestly, seems like (SOME) aspects of this game were rushed to make the '11 holiday deadline. Can't say for sure till I see for myself, but enough peoples(uncharted fans and others) have been telling me the same. - not by ANY MEANS a half-baked game, they just seem to have taken liberties with some (less) important stuff.
i can't even imagine how hard you must be to please if you are dissappointed with uncharted.
you have my sympathy.
I think I should add another point to my list...the stealth in UC3 is completly broken. Now, the stealth in UC2 wasn't super great, but it was good enough that you can take out whole groups of enemys or dwinddle them down to give you a starting advantage. It was well designed considering it was a pretty small part of the game. In UC3, I find it very difficult and almost impossible to stealth my way through any of these sections. The enemys seem to have super sonic hearing and sharp as hell seeing capabilities. I wouldn't have much of a problem with this, but the game seems to give you the impression that you can stealth your way through certain sections of the game without alerting a whole bunch of guards. I managed to do this once, but I had to reload my check point like three times before I could actually get it right.
JangoWuzHere
i didnt have any problems with the stealth. i was able to wipe out all the enemies in those sections without being seen.
now, once I went through on crushing it was different, because they add in a few enemies to each section, making some of them impossible. I guess thats the idea though, since its the hardest setting.
[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]
You did not play Uncharted 3...not only is there nothing boring about the game at all, many of the cutscenes and dialogue within the game explain story elements that seemed like they were overlooked, such as the final level...
seanmcloughlin
SO what about the card in cutters pocket, how talbot got shot and nothing happened, how he could vanish, what about drakes real name? there are huge problems in the story and and uncharted game to suddenly become ambiguous is stupid. Its not good at it
You don't have to answer every question that comes up. I guess Wes Craven has to explain how the **** Jason catches up to everyone when he's walking at 1mph. That technique is done in books, cinema and even games before Uncharted 3. You don't even need to know much about Tarot cards to understand the Tarot card in Cutter's jacket represents Marlowe's/Talbot's supernatural power to control and manipulate people to get what they want and in this case ... Drake.
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"][QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]
You did not play Uncharted 3...not only is there nothing boring about the game at all, many of the cutscenes and dialogue within the game explain story elements that seemed like they were overlooked, such as the final level...
Nonstop-Madness
SO what about the card in cutters pocket, how talbot got shot and nothing happened, how he could vanish, what about drakes real name? there are huge problems in the story and and uncharted game to suddenly become ambiguous is stupid. Its not good at it
You don't have to answer every question that comes up. I guess Wes Craven has to explain how the **** Jason catches up to everyone when he's walking at 1mph. That technique is done in books, cinema and even games before Uncharted 3. You don't even need to know much about Tarot cards to understand the Tarot card in Cutter's jacket represents Marlowe's/Talbot's supernatural power to control and manipulate people to get what they want and in this case ... Drake.Its best to give some exposition so I don't end up feeling stupid in a pretty standard plot. The fact that Talbots escape actions in the game have no explanation is a major plot hole. Sure, you can give me a rubbish explanation on how this stuff is possible. But why isn't any of that stuff explained or implied in the actual story?
[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"][QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]
You did not play Uncharted 3...not only is there nothing boring about the game at all, many of the cutscenes and dialogue within the game explain story elements that seemed like they were overlooked, such as the final level...
Nonstop-Madness
SO what about the card in cutters pocket, how talbot got shot and nothing happened, how he could vanish, what about drakes real name? there are huge problems in the story and and uncharted game to suddenly become ambiguous is stupid. Its not good at it
You don't have to answer every question that comes up. I guess Wes Craven has to explain how the **** Jason catches up to everyone when he's walking at 1mph. That technique is done in books, cinema and even games before Uncharted 3. You don't even need to know much about Tarot cards to understand the Tarot card in Cutter's jacket represents Marlowe's/Talbot's supernatural power to control and manipulate people to get what they want and in this case ... Drake.In a game like uncharted they DO need to be answered. Uncharted has never been about the complex narrative or ambiguous endings. Its not lost. People play the gam for a thrill ride that has questions and mystery but gets resolved in the end and everything ends up happy. But in the case of U3 we got the mystery and the thrill and the happy ending but none of the questions were answered. except in a tweet. That says they use drugs and hallucinogenics to control people and make them paranoid so no they don't have supernatural powers at all. She explained him surviving the shot as a bullet proof vest and his vanishing as an escape wire. So your arguement is null and void to say they have supernatural powers.
You're doing what all the Uncharted die hards are doing and that is defending a story that is full of holes and bad narerative and giving some lame excuses to justify it. People are having a hard time admitting tha U3 just doesn't capture the magic as much that the others did
That thing about the stealth reminds of the section on the boat shown at E3 that was all stealth like. I play it in the actualy game and they added like 6 enemies. It seems like it's impossible to stealth that section. In fact, it's impossible to stealth every section it seems. I tried to stealth that section right before the plane sequence, and I did it perfectly. But apparently the game doesn't like it when you do that, and I was apparently caught.
Also can some explain to me. On the boat they said "move the prisoners to the blah blah blah" and he boarded the ship to save people but drake never finds anyone and kills everyone on board and the ship sinks and he washes ashore. I mean, what the hell? why was he even on the damn boat in the first place then?
Amy henning even admits in the behind the scenes that the game was written around setpieces, The had those in place and then she wrote the story around that. This is a horrible way to design a game and its clearly obvious in U3 when you play it
So TC, didn't play the game because he's shares a different opinion from you? :?You did not play Uncharted 3...not only is there nothing boring about the game at all, many of the cutscenes and dialogue within the game explain story elements that seemed like they were overlooked, such as the final level...
KevinPlanet
So TC, didn't play the game because he's shares a different opinion from you? :?[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]
You did not play Uncharted 3...not only is there nothing boring about the game at all, many of the cutscenes and dialogue within the game explain story elements that seemed like they were overlooked, such as the final level...
jasonharris48
We are in SW after all.
Anyone who tried to say their own opinion that differs from the reviews gets attacked
So TC, didn't play the game because he's shares a different opinion from you? :?[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]
[QUOTE="KevinPlanet"]
You did not play Uncharted 3...not only is there nothing boring about the game at all, many of the cutscenes and dialogue within the game explain story elements that seemed like they were overlooked, such as the final level...
seanmcloughlin
We are in SW after all.
Anyone who tried to say their own opinion that differs from the reviews gets attacked
OH yea I forgot about that. I remeber all the post I receive for disliking MGS4.[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]
[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] So TC, didn't play the game because he's shares a different opinion from you? :?
jasonharris48
We are in SW after all.
Anyone who tried to say their own opinion that differs from the reviews gets attacked
OH yea I forgot about that. I remeber all the post I receive for disliking MGS4.Don't worry im with you on the whole MGS4 thing ;)
Because people aren't allowed to have different opinions. Right?LOL at this thread. If you think UC3 was disappointing, I think ur better off moving onto a different hobby other than gaming. UC3 is one of the best games (along with UC2, SMG, MGS4, and GoW3) this generation has to offer, and very few devs can create something that can even come close to this one. Stop this madness seriously.
GiveMeSomething
That thing about the stealth reminds of the section on the boat shown at E3 that was all stealth like. I play it in the actualy game and they added like 6 enemies. It seems like it's impossible to stealth that section. In fact, it's impossible to stealth every section it seems. I tried to stealth that section right before the plane sequence, and I did it perfectly. But apparently the game doesn't like it when you do that, and I was apparently caught.
AmayaPapaya
i used stealth in Syria and the airport, so i don't know what you're talking about.
[QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]Because people aren't allowed to have different opinions. Right?i can see why some people were disappointed, but then again they were probably expecting the next savior in gaming. My suggestion to those guys who can't get over UC2 is to play UC3 a second time. This second playthrough makes it clear how much better UC3 is than 2. It has a much deeper story than two does. Many people get lost and think it has plot holes, but if you pay attention, you'd know it doesn't. also many things are explained in the journal.LOL at this thread. If you think UC3 was disappointing, I think ur better off moving onto a different hobby other than gaming. UC3 is one of the best games (along with UC2, SMG, MGS4, and GoW3) this generation has to offer, and very few devs can create something that can even come close to this one. Stop this madness seriously.
Zophar87
What? Gears 2 is 720p. 1080p would kill the FPS on these games. It's 1080.[QUOTE="Zophar87"]
Uncharted 3 is a great game.. It's not an amazing game by any means, but it's still a great game. It had unfathomable hype to live up to and in my opinion it met it but the game falls short on a few key points .....
Biggest Problems;
The ending. Seriously, way too leave me with more questions then I started with.
Too short. Anyone else feel like it wasn't as long as Uncharted 2?
Environments weren't polished. I cannot tell you how many times I tried jumping, climbing, or going to an edge that simply didn't exist.
Nathan's movements seem extremely sloppy. Sluggish animations at times, lack-luster cover system, Nathan will "touch" a wall and do a complete 180.
To a much lesser extent; It's not done in 1080p. Seriously, even Gears of War 2 (yes, TWO) was done in 1080p.
Competitive Multiplayer still sucks...
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Other than that? Yeah, great game, it's not GOTY by any means but it's definitely the best game that the PS3 has offered us this year. It's definitely worth every bit of the 9 it was given on this website.
mitu123
[QUOTE="mitu123"]What? Gears 2 is 720p. 1080p would kill the FPS on these games. It's 1080. No it's not, the game is rendered in 720p and upscaled to 1080p.[QUOTE="Zophar87"]
Uncharted 3 is a great game.. It's not an amazing game by any means, but it's still a great game. It had unfathomable hype to live up to and in my opinion it met it but the game falls short on a few key points .....
Biggest Problems;
The ending. Seriously, way too leave me with more questions then I started with.
Too short. Anyone else feel like it wasn't as long as Uncharted 2?
Environments weren't polished. I cannot tell you how many times I tried jumping, climbing, or going to an edge that simply didn't exist.
Nathan's movements seem extremely sloppy. Sluggish animations at times, lack-luster cover system, Nathan will "touch" a wall and do a complete 180.
To a much lesser extent; It's not done in 1080p. Seriously, even Gears of War 2 (yes, TWO) was done in 1080p.
Competitive Multiplayer still sucks...
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Other than that? Yeah, great game, it's not GOTY by any means but it's definitely the best game that the PS3 has offered us this year. It's definitely worth every bit of the 9 it was given on this website.
Zophar87
[QUOTE="mitu123"]What? Gears 2 is 720p. 1080p would kill the FPS on these games. It's 1080.it's 720p bro[QUOTE="Zophar87"]
Uncharted 3 is a great game.. It's not an amazing game by any means, but it's still a great game. It had unfathomable hype to live up to and in my opinion it met it but the game falls short on a few key points .....
Biggest Problems;
The ending. Seriously, way too leave me with more questions then I started with.
Too short. Anyone else feel like it wasn't as long as Uncharted 2?
Environments weren't polished. I cannot tell you how many times I tried jumping, climbing, or going to an edge that simply didn't exist.
Nathan's movements seem extremely sloppy. Sluggish animations at times, lack-luster cover system, Nathan will "touch" a wall and do a complete 180.
To a much lesser extent; It's not done in 1080p. Seriously, even Gears of War 2 (yes, TWO) was done in 1080p.
Competitive Multiplayer still sucks...
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Other than that? Yeah, great game, it's not GOTY by any means but it's definitely the best game that the PS3 has offered us this year. It's definitely worth every bit of the 9 it was given on this website.
Zophar87
[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]hand to hand combat is better because they basically rip off Arkham Asylum. Drake can now fight multiple guys at once and counter with the /\ button. Did you know you can even beat the shield guys by flipping over them just like Batman does?I could not agree more. Big step back, I give it an 8.0 or an 8.5. Uncharted 2 was the better game.
Everyone who says that the game was disappointing because you hyped it too much, I did not expect it to be better than Uncharted 2, but I didn't think it would be difficult to get 12 more hours of Uncharted 2 right (I expected Uncharted 2.5 here). Instead, the game didn't even get that. I expected an 8.5 here and frankly, they were being generous in giving it a 9. The melee combat was the big improvement but its still not as good as Batman. Pretty much everything else was a step back for the series. It was shorter, the story was looser, the shooting wasn't as tight, and a huge amount of puzzles and parts where you just walk murder replay value. Uncharted 2 is the better game without nostalgia.
If I played Uncharted 2 after I played Uncharted 3, I would still say Uncharted 2 is the better game.
chaotzu
combat system is the same as ever. The only new thing is that when a second guy attacks you can evade his attack too by pressing t /\ but the counter with /\ has always been there since the first Uncharted (that means that you probably have never played any Uncharted game right? got you). Is not like Batman were his foot are on ice and he slides from one enemy to the other very unrealistically, Drake only evades, he does not attack both at the same time.
[QUOTE="Zophar87"][QUOTE="GiveMeSomething"]Because people aren't allowed to have different opinions. Right?i can see why some people were disappointed, but then again they were probably expecting the next savior in gaming. My suggestion to those guys who can't get over UC2 is to play UC3 a second time. This second playthrough makes it clear how much better UC3 is than 2. It has a much deeper story than two does. Many people get lost and think it has plot holes, but if you pay attention, you'd know it doesn't. also many things are explained in the journal.LOL at this thread. If you think UC3 was disappointing, I think ur better off moving onto a different hobby other than gaming. UC3 is one of the best games (along with UC2, SMG, MGS4, and GoW3) this generation has to offer, and very few devs can create something that can even come close to this one. Stop this madness seriously.
UNcartMe
Uhhh I disagree, I'm playing through this game again and I am even more disappointed in this game. Playing a game a second time will never make any game better. It will only show off the faults of the game more.
Also can some explain to me. On the boat they said "move the prisoners to the blah blah blah" and he boarded the ship to save people but drake never finds anyone and kills everyone on board and the ship sinks and he washes ashore. I mean, what the hell? why was he even on the damn boat in the first place then?
Amy henning even admits in the behind the scenes that the game was written around setpieces, The had those in place and then she wrote the story around that. This is a horrible way to design a game and its clearly obvious in U3 when you play it
seanmcloughlin
he boarded the ship to save Sully, not to save "people". also, what prisoners are you talking about? there was no mention of prisoners whatsoever.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekz2eaSFsM8&feature=related
instead of ribbing the story, next time pay attention to the cutscenes.
Uhhh I disagree, I'm playing through this game again and I am even more disappointed in this game. Playing a game a second time will never make any game better. It will only show off the faults of the game more.
JangoWuzHere
disagree. UC3 is better than UC2. oh wait, how does Elena know Schafer? how does Tenzin know when and where to find Nate during the trainwreck? how does Nate know the puzzles in the Ice Cave even though Tenzin knows the ins-and-outs of the whole cave but listens to Drake's instructions? Drake goes through the trouble of shooting enemies on a train, spanning three chapters and three location changes only to be told that the girl she wants to save does not need any saving. and guess what he does next? he wrecks the train, gets some rest, then tries to rescue here again. now tell me if that's not a story that's wrapped around a setpiece.
[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
That thing about the stealth reminds of the section on the boat shown at E3 that was all stealth like. I play it in the actualy game and they added like 6 enemies. It seems like it's impossible to stealth that section. In fact, it's impossible to stealth every section it seems. I tried to stealth that section right before the plane sequence, and I did it perfectly. But apparently the game doesn't like it when you do that, and I was apparently caught.
rumbalumba
i used stealth in Syria and the airport, so i don't know what you're talking about.
I used stealth too. But in the end, you can't beat that section with stealth alone because there are two guys together waiting by a door. No matter what you do, Drake says "Oh s*** we've been caught. So much for surprise." And then your forced to fight through a wave of baddies. I tried killing them within half a second of each other using the stealth pistol. I tried meleeing one from behind. I tried throwing a granade, a propane tank and even shooting the tank right by them. I tried even just skipping them buy you auto fail the mission. In the end, you always get caught.
I honestly think the game sucked. I only finished it to see the story progress and end, both ended up being a huge let down. Combat not as fun as past games, game felt way to scripted and linear. Fanboys will defend it, thats there job, but to me this is the worst UC yet in every way. Had a huge been there dont that feeling the whole time. I didnt connect with any of the characters. Glad when it was over really .
[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]
[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
That thing about the stealth reminds of the section on the boat shown at E3 that was all stealth like. I play it in the actualy game and they added like 6 enemies. It seems like it's impossible to stealth that section. In fact, it's impossible to stealth every section it seems. I tried to stealth that section right before the plane sequence, and I did it perfectly. But apparently the game doesn't like it when you do that, and I was apparently caught.
AmayaPapaya
i used stealth in Syria and the airport, so i don't know what you're talking about.
I used stealth too. But in the end, you can't beat that section with stealth alone because there are two guys together waiting by a door. No matter what you do, Drake says "Oh s*** we've been caught. So much for surprise." And then your forced to fight through a wave of baddies. I tried killing them within half a second of each other using the stealth pistol. I tried meleeing one from behind. I tried throwing a granade, a propane tank and even shooting the tank right by them. I tried even just skipping them buy you auto fail the mission. In the end, you always get caught.
go near the line of sight of either guys, do a punch in the air, and that guy will investigate. once the guy is isolated, take him down. then take dow the guy that was left behind guarding.
i even stealth'd mostly on the shipyard level. all of these i did on Hard. and i think there's actually more enemies on screen when on Hard mode.
[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]
Uhhh I disagree, I'm playing through this game again and I am even more disappointed in this game. Playing a game a second time will never make any game better. It will only show off the faults of the game more.
rumbalumba
disagree. UC3 is better than UC2. oh wait, how does Elena know Schafer? how does Tenzin know when and where to find Nate during the trainwreck? how does Nate know the puzzles in the Ice Cave even though Tenzin knows the ins-and-outs of the whole cave but listens to Drake's instructions? Drake goes through the trouble of shooting enemies on a train, spanning three chapters and three location changes only to be told that the girl she wants to save does not need any saving. and guess what he does next? he wrecks the train, gets some rest, then tries to rescue here again. now tell me if that's not a story that's wrapped around a setpiece.
how does Elena know Schafer?
Drake was out for a few days when Tenzin found him by the train wreckage. I think thats enough time to get to know somebody...
how does Tenzin know when and where to find Nate during the train wreck?
Why knows? He could have simply been exploring and decided to check out the HUGE LOUD train wreck that happened a few moments ago
how does Nate know the puzzles in the Ice Cave even though Tenzin knows the ins-and-outs of the whole cave but listens to Drake's instructions?
I don't remember...I would have to play that scene again. I'm pretty sure Tenzin was taking the lead thats all.
Drake goes through the trouble of shooting enemies on a train, spanning three chapters and three location changes only to be told that the girl she wants to save does not need any saving. and guess what he does next? he wrecks the train, gets some rest, then tries to rescue here again. now tell me if that's not a story that's wrapped around a setpiece.
Character development happens and that even leads Drake to the dagger. Can you tell me anything that happens story wise with the 4 pirate ship chapters in UC3? Drake wanders a pirate yard and pirate ship and never finds sully. Nothing happens in that entire scene. It is just a set piece that has zero story progression surrounding it.
[QUOTE="AmayaPapaya"]
[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]
i used stealth in Syria and the airport, so i don't know what you're talking about.
rumbalumba
I used stealth too. But in the end, you can't beat that section with stealth alone because there are two guys together waiting by a door. No matter what you do, Drake says "Oh s*** we've been caught. So much for surprise." And then your forced to fight through a wave of baddies. I tried killing them within half a second of each other using the stealth pistol. I tried meleeing one from behind. I tried throwing a granade, a propane tank and even shooting the tank right by them. I tried even just skipping them buy you auto fail the mission. In the end, you always get caught.
go near the line of sight of either guys, do a punch in the air, and that guy will investigate. once the guy is isolated, take him down.
Oh obviously, a game mechanic that was introduced clearly by the game itself:roll:
I honestly think the game sucked. I only finished it to see the story progress and end, both ended up being a huge let down. Combat not as fun as past games, game felt way to scripted and linear. Fanboys will defend it, thats there job, but to me this is the worst UC yet in every way. Had a huge been there dont that feeling the whole time. I didnt connect with any of the characters. Glad when it was over really .
Advid-Gamer
again, disagree. the level designs are better. the pacing is better and not just gunfight after gunfight after gunfight. platforming sections are done better. Ice Cave in UC2 got old so fast. you were just swinging and jumping from one ice cliff to another. levels are designed so you can us stealth and shooting better. in UC2 once you settled behind a cover you can finish the whole fight without even moving, even on Hard mode. it catered too much to the cowards. in UC3, enemies throw grenades at you and run up to you to melee you, focring you to move around the level. ending and the last 1/3 of the game is much better than UC2. in UC3 the last 1/3 had a horse chase, had some slow moments, platforming and chase sequence, melee fight, even some drama. in UC2 the last 1/3 is basically gunfight inthe monastery, moving to a gunfight to the Shambala against the yetis and the soldier and if you didnt have a crossbow you're already dead meat trying to fight 3 yeti at the same time at least in UC3 the smokeless fire creatures are not cheap, and lastly you were given a running-around-in-circles boss fight whcih was uber lame.
Oh obviously, a game mechanic that was introduced clearly by the game itself:roll:
JangoWuzHere
yeah, because strategies like these have to be spoonfed for people who suck at finding other methods besides the ones in the tutorial. that's why experimenting in a game itself is not a game mechanic. :roll: grow up. if you can find strategies in Deus Ex and combining spells in magicka or something, what's stopping you to do so in Uncharted? nothing.
You don't have to be a fanboy to enjoy UC3. And complaining that UC3 is "too scripted and linear" is kind of a bad criticism for a UC game, that's what the series does, and what it does best, I'm sure you've played a UC game before, so why would you expect UC 3 to be different? If you don't want linear and scripted, don't play a UC game...I honestly think the game sucked. I only finished it to see the story progress and end, both ended up being a huge let down. Combat not as fun as past games, game felt way to scripted and linear. Fanboys will defend it, thats there job, but to me this is the worst UC yet in every way. Had a huge been there dont that feeling the whole time. I didnt connect with any of the characters. Glad when it was over really .
Advid-Gamer
[QUOTE="mitu123"]What? Gears 2 is 720p. 1080p would kill the FPS on these games. It's 1080. I know what 1080p native looks like, and Gears 2 ain't it, it's 720p but can be upscaled to 1080p, meaning taking that 720p image and stretching it to a 1080p set.[QUOTE="Zophar87"]
Uncharted 3 is a great game.. It's not an amazing game by any means, but it's still a great game. It had unfathomable hype to live up to and in my opinion it met it but the game falls short on a few key points .....
Biggest Problems;
The ending. Seriously, way too leave me with more questions then I started with.
Too short. Anyone else feel like it wasn't as long as Uncharted 2?
Environments weren't polished. I cannot tell you how many times I tried jumping, climbing, or going to an edge that simply didn't exist.
Nathan's movements seem extremely sloppy. Sluggish animations at times, lack-luster cover system, Nathan will "touch" a wall and do a complete 180.
To a much lesser extent; It's not done in 1080p. Seriously, even Gears of War 2 (yes, TWO) was done in 1080p.
Competitive Multiplayer still sucks...
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Other than that? Yeah, great game, it's not GOTY by any means but it's definitely the best game that the PS3 has offered us this year. It's definitely worth every bit of the 9 it was given on this website.
Zophar87
The stuff you're complaining about are actually the things I liked about the game. The puzzles were better, the set pieces were grander and more entertaining and the end boss fight was better handled than the previous Uncharted games. As far as the story goes it ha a subtle approach compared to UC2, and a more serious tone which was welcomed. UC2 pretty much answered all the questions in the game and I feel the story of UC3 was deliberate, I am glad there isn't a lot of exposition, plus it definitely surprised me in a few scenes. But saying that I was slightly disappointed I mean it was both better than UC2 and not as good. Overall definitely a solid trilogy. I just hope we get one final Uncharted games but this time Naughty Dog should take a year longer.
Character development happens and that even leads Drake to the dagger. Can you tell me anything that happens story wise with the 4 pirate ship chapters in UC3? Drake wanders a pirate yard and pirate ship and never finds sully. Nothing happens in that entire scene. It is just a set piece that has zero story progression surrounding it.
JangoWuzHere
wut? Marlowe asks Rameses to dispose of Drake, but Rameses wants the Iram of the Pillars for himself so he asks Drake to cooperate, threatens Drake to tell him or he'll make Drake's friend, "Sully" talk. Nate escapes and tries to rescue Sully, only to find that Rameses never really had Sully and just wanted the treasure for himself, so what does Drake do to a pirate captain who wants to kill him? he sinks Rameses' boat. what could Drake have done to escape him anyways? wait for the coast guard?
also, what character development happened during the train scene? nothing. Chloe already saved him the first time, and then she "saved" him again during the train scene? redundant much?
Even if it is upscaled like you all are saying. There's no excuse for Uncharted to not "upscale" as well.Zophar87
It does upscale. If you have a 1080p TV, everything that isn't 1080p source material will be upscaled to fill the screen, or downscaled if it's higher. Some games will upscale internally on the PS3, some don't as it costs some valuable memory the devs couldn't spare. If it can't upscale internally, it's sent to the TV as 720p image and the TV upscales.
End result? Absolutely nothing.
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Oh obviously, a game mechanic that was introduced clearly by the game itself:roll:
rumbalumba
yeah, because strategies like these have to be spoonfed for people who suck at finding other methods besides the ones in the tutorial. that's why experimenting in a game itself is not a game mechanic. :roll: grow up. if you can find strategies in Deus Ex and combining spells in magicka or something, what's stopping you to do so in Uncharted? nothing.
Someone lke you should be able to understand how stupid that is. Swinging a punch in the air so you can alert a guard to investigate your position? Thats even more stupid then solid snake knocking on a wall to alert guards to his position so he can subdue them. I don't remember having to do anything dumb like that in Uncharted 2.
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Oh obviously, a game mechanic that was introduced clearly by the game itself:roll:
JangoWuzHere
yeah, because strategies like these have to be spoonfed for people who suck at finding other methods besides the ones in the tutorial. that's why experimenting in a game itself is not a game mechanic. :roll: grow up. if you can find strategies in Deus Ex and combining spells in magicka or something, what's stopping you to do so in Uncharted? nothing.
Someone lke you should be able to understand how stupid that is. Swinging a punch in the air so you can alert a guard to investigate your position? Thats even more stupid then solid snake knocking on a wall to alert guards to his position so he can subdue them. I don't remember having to do anything dumb like that in Uncharted 2.
yeah, like throwing a Batarang to the wall to distract guards in Arkham City? wow, what a stupid game mechanic just because you say so. dumb, dumb, dumb. :roll:
you don't remember because UC2 didn't let you experiment with these types of strategies. which game is linear now?
also, you can do other things to distract the guards in the airport in UC3. you can jump from the crates to the ground to create noise, too. see, i'm already teaching you how to play the game.
[QUOTE="Advid-Gamer"]You don't have to be a fanboy to enjoy UC3. And complaining that UC3 is "too scripted and linear" is kind of a bad criticism for a UC game, that's what the series does, and what it does best, I'm sure you've played a UC game before, so why would you expect UC 3 to be different? If you don't want linear and scripted, don't play a UC game... Guess I have out grown the series then. I enjoyed the first uncharted alot back at release, UC2 was ok but I enjoyed the first more, and now hated this one. I guess my gaming tastes have changed, but UC3 does nothing well, the story is crap and fails to really be about anything, nothing exciting at least. The aiming sucks, the hand to hand combat is ok at best got old quickly, the platforming is linear as can be. So whats so great about UC, well I guess its the graphics, and being a pc gamer mostly, they are not even impressive the bloom actually hurt my eyes sometimes.I honestly think the game sucked. I only finished it to see the story progress and end, both ended up being a huge let down. Combat not as fun as past games, game felt way to scripted and linear. Fanboys will defend it, thats there job, but to me this is the worst UC yet in every way. Had a huge been there dont that feeling the whole time. I didnt connect with any of the characters. Glad when it was over really .
Deathtransit
Weird, did you uncheck all the boxes in the settings on PS3 and leave it at 1080p? I'll check when I get home! Thanks for the info![QUOTE="Zophar87"]Even if it is upscaled like you all are saying. There's no excuse for Uncharted to not "upscale" as well.mitu123
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i used stealth in Syria and the airport, so i don't know what you're talking about.
rumbalumba
I used stealth too. But in the end, you can't beat that section with stealth alone because there are two guys together waiting by a door. No matter what you do, Drake says "Oh s*** we've been caught. So much for surprise." And then your forced to fight through a wave of baddies. I tried killing them within half a second of each other using the stealth pistol. I tried meleeing one from behind. I tried throwing a granade, a propane tank and even shooting the tank right by them. I tried even just skipping them buy you auto fail the mission. In the end, you always get caught.
go near the line of sight of either guys, do a punch in the air, and that guy will investigate. once the guy is isolated, take him down. then take dow the guy that was left behind guarding.
i even stealth'd mostly on the shipyard level. all of these i did on Hard. and i think there's actually more enemies on screen when on Hard mode.
Really that's so lame -_-
That doesn't really help the argument that Uncharted 3 has good stealth. Seriously, I killed both of them in the time it takes to shoot two bullets with the stealth pistol. There should have been no being caught.
[QUOTE="Zophar87"]Even if it is upscaled like you all are saying. There's no excuse for Uncharted to not "upscale" as well.ChubbyGuy40
It does upscale. If you have a 1080p TV, everything that isn't 1080p source material will be upscaled to fill the screen, or downscaled if it's higher. Some games will upscale internally on the PS3, some don't as it costs some valuable memory the devs couldn't spare. If it can't upscale internally, it's sent to the TV as 720p image and the TV upscales.
End result? Absolutely nothing.
Even so.. I notice a significant difference in the end result on my television.Please Log In to post.
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