How disappointing was Uncharted 3 for you?

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"][QUOTE="Zophar87"]

I noticed a significant difference in this "the 360 is upscaled" argument people keep pulling.

Zophar87

I never said it did, but I will put this in; Even if it is upscaled then I did notice a significant difference in the overall resolution of both games.

If the 360 can upscale Gears 3 to 1080p so easily, then why can't the PS3 do the same for Uncharted 3?

Specifically the campaign, the entire experience just felt like a major step down compared to Uncharted 2. The main things that killed U3 for me was

1. Very slow and boring opening chapters.

Did you notice that opening chapters were often gameplay segments? It was done so seemlessly that you probably didn't notice....

2. Very very weak villains

Increase the difficulty...

3. Ending does nothing to explain the many questions the story arises.

Number 3 is probably my biggest complaint. The game has a ton of build up with a lot of unanswered questions about the Villains, Drake, Sully, etc. However, the game fails to answer these questions. I feel like there are some major obvious plot holes that the game seems to ignore completely.

What was there to explain? What about Sully?

Uncharted 3 felt more like they were trying to give the player a cinematic experience without the good story and memorable characters this time around. Well...at least the multiplayer is pretty good.

What are you talking about? Charlie was awesome, and I found Rameses, the pirate an enjoyable villain, along with Talbot. What about the puzzles? I find they're much harder this time around. I think you rushed through the game on an easy setting. Try a harder setting and take your time.

JangoWuzHere

Responses in red.

[QUOTE="Zophar87"]

[QUOTE="KevinButlerVP"] Gears 3 runs native 1080p? u serious?o0HAPPY0o

I never said it did, but I will put this in; Even if it is upscaled then I did notice a significant difference in the overall resolution of both games.

If the 360 can upscale Gears 3 to 1080p so easily, then why can't the PS3 do the same for Uncharted 3?

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Specifically the campaign, the entire experience just felt like a major step down compared to Uncharted 2. The main things that killed U3 for me was

1. Very slow and boring opening chapters.

Did you notice that opening chapters were often gameplay segments? It was done so seemlessly that you probably didn't notice....

2. Very very weak villains

Increase the difficulty...

3. Ending does nothing to explain the many questions the story arises.

Number 3 is probably my biggest complaint. The game has a ton of build up with a lot of unanswered questions about the Villains, Drake, Sully, etc. However, the game fails to answer these questions. I feel like there are some major obvious plot holes that the game seems to ignore completely.

What was there to explain? What about Sully?

Uncharted 3 felt more like they were trying to give the player a cinematic experience without the good story and memorable characters this time around. Well...at least the multiplayer is pretty good.

What are you talking about? Charlie was awesome, and I found Rameses, the pirate an enjoyable villain, along with Talbot. What about the puzzles? I find they're much harder this time around. I think you rushed through the game on an easy setting. Try a harder setting and take your time.

Zero_epyon

Responses in red.

1.Uhhh yes I noticed that I was playing a game thank you. It was a boring game at the beginning, does that clear that up for you?

2.I'm talking about the villains, not the actual enemys you fight in the game...

3. Drakes past, Talbots magical ways to escape danger and death, talk of victor betraying you, the corpse at the chateau, how did the villains know that the city of brass had hallucogenic power, why do they need it when Talbot already seems to have some in the form of darts etc. etc.

4. Cutter was cool, but hes only in 1/3 of the game. They cut him and Chloe right after Syria is done. You thought Rameses was enjoyable? He is hardly in the game, he shows up like three times at best. He is just a generic pirate if anything. Talbot is also incredibly generic, there is zero mystery surrounding his character sense none of the game explains anything about him. I don't remember complaining about the games difficulty. Me playing on a harder setting won't fix the story and set pieces for me.

Not disappointing enough to have made me regret purchasing it, the game was and is still an incredible play, it just lacks the replayability of the other two. Primarily because when you really break it down, the majority of the game doesn't change the second time through. There are only a few gunfights that really encourage experimentation, the rest involve killing an RPG guy to get his weapon and take out the two heavies... lather, rinse, repeat.

It was great....my only disappointment was my 6 year old ended it on normal in 6 days

Weird to say this but Uncharted 3 is probably easily my favorite in the series. I liked the history they go into, and the interactions between the characters.

It's not as over the top crazy as 2 was, but it seems to have had a much larger impact narrative and emotionally then the last two.

I kinda gave a bit more of a damn as to Drake's intentions and the well being of these characters.

Weird to say this but Uncharted 3 is probably easily my favorite in the series. I liked the history they go into, and the interactions between the characters.

It's not as over the top crazy as 2 was, but it seems to have had a much larger impact narrative and emotionally then the last two.

I kinda gave a bit more of a damn as to Drake's intentions and the well being of these characters.

SaudiFury

are you serious? the game is designed around set pieces. Please tell me you meant narratively speaking

[QUOTE="JangoWuzHere"]

Specifically the campaign, the entire experience just felt like a major step down compared to Uncharted 2. The main things that killed U3 for me was

1. Very slow and boring opening chapters.

2. Very very weak villains

3. Ending does nothing to explain the many questions the story arises.

Number 3 is probably my biggest complaint. The game has a ton of build up with a lot of unanswered questions about the Villains, Drake, Sully, etc. However, the game fails to answer these questions. I feel like there are some major obvious plot holes that the game seems to ignore completely.

Uncharted 3 felt more like they were trying to give the player a cinematic experience without the good story and memorable characters this time around. Well...at least the multiplayer is pretty good.

Slashkice

1. If you're not much of a fan of adventure, I can see how you could say that. People who want Michael Bay-esque explosions every minute would find it boring. But not me. The opening chapters set up important plot points and make the overall game feel more like an action-adventure rather than a TPS. Uncharted always gets compared to Indiana Jones and this is the closest it's been in the series' history - and that's a compliment of the highest degree.

2. Talbot's a great villain, the game did an excellent job of just making you hate the a******. The chase scene in Yemen really drove the point home - one of the best scenes in the game quite frankly. All of the previous interactions with the character up until that point culminate in a Bond-like chase scene, and the entire time you're really waiting for the moment you can tackle and punch the s*** out of him. And that's how a game succeeds at crafting a good villain, by making you hate the sonofab****.

Marlowe was a more cerebral enemy than the series has seen and she appropriately stayed in the background. The puppeteer pulling the strings, the "wizard" behind the curtain, however you want to see it, Marlowe was the one calling the shots throughout the game. Plus, alongside Talbot and Drake, there's a good parallel to the Queen, John Dee, and Sir Francis. Skimming around the thread I guess the main complaint is people wanting to know more? Sure, they could have added more, but it'd be backstory just for the sake of including backstory. Everything the player needed to know about these characters in the context of the plot, was laid out in-game.

And since this thread is pretty much comparing the game to U2, it's worth pointing out Lazarevic was not a very good villain. Lazarevic was a stereotypical bad guy through and through, and that's without mentioning the awful boss fight - in a top-tier game like UC2, he really is a noticeable blemish.

3. What major plot holes are there in the game? The game doesn't spoon-feed you information - a good thing as that's lazy writing - but that shouldn't be confused with plot holes.

tl;dr: OP, I disagree.

edit: ah, just noticed the new post:

3. Drakes past, Talbots magical ways to escape danger and death, talk of victor betraying you, the corpse at the chateau, how did the villains know that the city of brass had hallucogenic power, why do they need it when Talbot already seems to have some in the form of darts etc. etc.

JangoWuzHere

- What about Drake's past?

- Talbot's the right-hand man of a covert clandestine operation. You know, James Bond to MI6 kind of thing. It'd be surprising if he didn't know how to get out of a tight spot.

- The game is called Drake's Deception, and unsurprisingly, deception is a major motif of the game. Talk of Sully betraying Drake is exactly that.

- The corpse of a man who met the spiders.

- Marlowe's crew isn't new at this, their organization dates back 400 years. They knew from the legends that a great power had laid waste to the city.

- If they were going to take over a city, what are they going to do, throw darts at everyone? Having the source gives them more free reign to do as they wish, and at least from Drake's experience with the water, it seems more potent than what Talbot carried around.

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Weird to say this but Uncharted 3 is probably easily my favorite in the series. I liked the history they go into, and the interactions between the characters.

It's not as over the top crazy as 2 was, but it seems to have had a much larger impact narrative and emotionally then the last two.

I kinda gave a bit more of a damn as to Drake's intentions and the well being of these characters.

seanmcloughlin

are you serious? the game is designed around set pieces. Please tell me you meant narratively speaking

[QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Weird to say this but Uncharted 3 is probably easily my favorite in the series. I liked the history they go into, and the interactions between the characters.

It's not as over the top crazy as 2 was, but it seems to have had a much larger impact narrative and emotionally then the last two.

I kinda gave a bit more of a damn as to Drake's intentions and the well being of these characters.

Zero_epyon

are you serious? the game is designed around set pieces. Please tell me you meant narratively speaking

But the game needs to be slowed down. Its badly in need of pacing and no pacing =/= momentum. Momentum is all those set pieces thrown in your face one after another like a CoD game, and that is the path the game has chosen. It has been confirmed to have been made around set pieces like I said. And thats a horrible way to make a game. Part of why U2 is better is because it has its way over the top moments but has a slow down in sections of just sheer exploration too. It wasn' just chase, boat, plane, desert end (exaggerating I know) but my point is it took both parts and combined them beautifully while U3 seems to be a bit set piece heavy. It just needed more space between them.

It seems nowadays everyone is after action over a good paced campaign

[QUOTE="Zero_epyon"][QUOTE="seanmcloughlin"]

are you serious? the game is designed around set pieces. Please tell me you meant narratively speaking

seanmcloughlin

But the game needs to be slowed down. Its badly in need of pacing and no pacing =/= momentum. Momentum is all those set pieces thrown in your face one after another like a CoD game, and that is the path the game has chosen. It has been confirmed to have been made around set pieces like I said. And thats a horrible way to make a game. Part of why U2 is better is because it has its way over the top moments but has a slow down in sections of just sheer exploration too. It wasn' just chase, boat, plane, desert end (exaggerating I know) but my point is it took both parts and combined them beautifully while U3 seems to be a bit set piece heavy. It just needed more space between them.

It seems nowadays everyone is after action over a good paced campaign

Extremely. The entire first half of the game was pretty boring, especially compared to Uncharted 2. The narrative lacked any real cohesion, and there were some pretty aggravating difficulty spikes. Sure, a disappointing Uncharted game is still better than most games out there, but I was expecting an experience that would at least rival Uncharted 2.

it's amusing that some people can actually get all upset over the fact that not everyone wants to pretend uncharted 3 is anything close to perfection. :shock:

[QUOTE="SaudiFury"]

Weird to say this but Uncharted 3 is probably easily my favorite in the series. I liked the history they go into, and the interactions between the characters.

It's not as over the top crazy as 2 was, but it seems to have had a much larger impact narrative and emotionally then the last two.

I kinda gave a bit more of a damn as to Drake's intentions and the well being of these characters.

seanmcloughlin

are you serious? the game is designed around set pieces. Please tell me you meant narratively speaking

it's amusing that some people can actually get all upset over the fact that not everyone wants to pretend uncharted 3 is anything close to perfection. :shock:

KarateeeChop

Not disappointing enough to have made me regret purchasing it, the game was and is still an incredible play, it just lacks the replayability of the other two. Primarily because when you really break it down, the majority of the game doesn't change the second time through. There are only a few gunfights that really encourage experimentation, the rest involve killing an RPG guy to get his weapon and take out the two heavies... lather, rinse, repeat.

jamejame

Lets get real guys. Uncharted 3 isnt a perfect game. However, it is a lot of things but disappointing. If you truly want to play a disappointing game, try CoD. Being realistic, I think people expected this game to be something like a GOD game (perfect); and everyone knows thats impossible.

So yes, stop being so harsh on uncharted just because it didnt meet very unrealistic standards.

Lets get real guys. Uncharted 3 isnt a perfect game. However, it is a lot of things but disappointing. If you truly want to play a disappointing game, try CoD. Being realistic, I think people expected this game to be something like a GOD game (perfect); and everyone knows thats impossible.

So yes, stop being so harsh on uncharted just because it didnt meet very unrealistic standards.

GiveMeSomething

Expecting this game to be near or at least on par with Uncharted 2 is "unrealistic standards?"

I am not buying it until the aiming is fixed.

But the game needs to be slowed down. Its badly in need of pacing and no pacing =/= momentum. Momentum is all those set pieces thrown in your face one after another like a CoD game, and that is the path the game has chosen. It has been confirmed to have been made around set pieces like I said. And thats a horrible way to make a game. Part of why U2 is better is because it has its way over the top moments but has a slow down in sections of just sheer exploration too. It wasn' just chase, boat, plane, desert end (exaggerating I know) but my point is it took both parts and combined them beautifully while U3 seems to be a bit set piece heavy. It just needed more space between them.

It seems nowadays everyone is after action over a good paced campaign

seanmcloughlin

lolwut.

Ch 2 is basically walking around

after that, London was slow at first too. in fact, the slow parts are even longer than the actual gunfights.

first part of Chateau was slow too. you did not get to any enemy until after you come out of the underground cave. you even had a puzzle before the cave.

first part of Syria was slow too. after a gunfight, it even had the globe puzzle.

after Syria was what, Yemen? there was basically a Village from UC2 moment in Yemen where you just walk around as well.

in fact, there was even a UC2 moment in Yemen when you wre looking for another way to some temple or something and Nate climbed this building and the camera panned out to show this vista much like in UC2 (and the one they showed in E3 2009 demo) where Nate climbed the highest building in Nepal and the camera panned out the same way. in fact, i suspect that Yemen is like a restructured Nepal level. the similarities in that shot is uncanny.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2ricy8TIAyM&t=240

then came the gears puzzle and the planetarium puzzle.

in the shipyard scene, there was a break between the gunfights, where you were traversing this giant dead ship.

when the ship capsized, again there were some platforming going on.

first part of the airport scene was basically walknig around, climbing, and pushing jeeps.

the Rub al khali was basically a whole 10-minute chapter of just walking around the desert.

first part of the Desert Village, again, was just walking around.

the list goes on and on.

you make it sound like there was only the sinking ship, the falling plane, the burning mansion, and the horse chase scenes in UC3. stop misinforming people. the pacing is nicely done and everything is nicely spread out.

[QUOTE="rumbalumba"]

[QUOTE="GreySeal9"]

I don't think so. Having issues with the aiming, pacing, polish are not nitpicks.

GreySeal9

you havent even played the game and just going off of other's opinions. "i don't think so"? you make it sound like a concrete rebuttal or something.

I don't need to play the game. Enough people have complained about these things and problems with aiming, pacing and polish are not really nitpicks in most contexts. Its pretty obvious to me that you're just being defensive, which is pretty typical on SW.

How did I make "I don't think so" seem like a concrete rebuttal? I simply said "I don't think so." :lol:

Mother of ... did you jest necro a 8 month thread?

Level 7 and your first post is... to bump an 8 month old thread? Really?? :x