How many multi-plats were held back this generation because of 360's DVD format?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

I can only hope this ridiculously stupid argument is a joke.

First off, PS3 games getting extra content is due to Sony moneyhats (Why else do you think EA is in bed with Sony? Charity?) and second, a handful of games does not equate to "all of them".

BPoole96

It is. I'm not that stupid. :P There really has been no advantage of Blu Ray this gen aside from having a blu ray player for movies. Blu ray has its place for movies, but really isn't necessary for games.

Oh, whew. Thanks. Jokes are hard to read on the internet.

*faith in humanity restored*

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Compelling statement there. I can't wait to see you prove it! :D

arkephonic

PS3 gets bonus content in plenty of games like Medal of Honor, Assassin's Creed, Mafia 2, Dead Space 2 (9.0 PS3, 8.5 360) etc, etc because it can handle having the extra content. If devs did this on 360 people's fingers would be bleeding for swapping discs so often. These companies need to avoid lawsuits so they simply water down the games to the crutch of the 360 to avoid trouble. Sometimes the devs feel bad so they reward PS3 gamers with extra content for free for having their games held back

True that. I got Assassin's Creed Revelations on PS3, and it came with a free copy of Assassin's Creed. Medal of Honor also came with a free copy of Medal of Honor Frontline.

oh, all this you were just trolling -_-

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Carmack is one man, he does not represent everyone's opinion. Why are you trying to start me up again?

What your saying is that Carmacks opinion is your opinion? Glad I think for myself, I think PS3 is better than 360. Don't like it? Kiss my ass.

I was trying to be balanced and look what happens?

ShadowMoses900

Cool for you, I however trust my own opinion and do things based off of what I want. Not what someone else likes or wants. Carmacks opinion is not my opinion, I don't give two sh!ts about what he thinks. He makes games that's all I care about, I don't care what system he prefers. I think Naughty Dog is better than Carmack and they like PS3 better. We all have our favoirtes Delta, it supports our own bias.

But like I said, my opinion is my opinion. Carmack's opinion doesn't matter to me.

john carmack "I can make benchmarks that will show either the PS3 or 360 to be superior, so they are close, but I prefer the trades on the 360" http://twitter.com/#!/ID_AA_Carmack/status/124917372040642560 john carmack on the ps3 version of Rage "We had to make the game dominated by the console hardware trade offs. And the PlayStation 3 is, in some ways, the long pole there. They are close, the PS3 and the Xbox 360." "You don't have to do radically different things, but the memory is a little tighter on the PS3 because it is segmented and Sony takes a little bit more off the top for their guide overhead than Microsoft does," he said. "There is no doubt that decisions had to be based around what would work well on the consoles." http://myona.com/2011/08/15/rage-development-is-limited-due-to-ps3-memory-id/ http://www.ripten.com/2011/08/14/john-carmack-thinks-the-ps3-is-the-second-best-console-ever-made/delta3074

And yet, somehow, games like God of War 3, the Uncharteds, MGS:4, the Infamous series...some of the best looking games this gen, end up getting made. But I digress...it's the PS3's faulty memory allocation that keeps devs from taking all the advantage they can. Right. Don't blame the hardware guys...blame the developers if they don't possess the skills to take advantage of a system that has been out for 5 years now. As long as games exist, like the ones I meantioned previously, that is proof that there isn't anything wrong with the PS3 hardware. Once again, PS3 library reigns supreme. And the PS3 jelly continues on now, and forever. :)

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]what i am saying is that i trust carmacks opinion more than anybody elses, if you had been gaming as long as i have you would understand why, we are talking about the godfather of the first person shooter, a developer who has created THE most influencial gaming engines in the histroy of gaming and he's not arrogant like cliffy B, peter molyneux, dan houser and other developers, he doesn't blow his own trumpet and trys not to make a big deal about anything, he's a very quiet reserved man who only says something if he truly believes it is worth saying and he truly believes in what he is saying, i trust him more than every other developer not just because of his achievments but becuase of who he is as a person as well.delta3074

Cool for you, I however trust my own opinion and do things based off of what I want. Not what someone else likes or wants. Carmacks opinion is not my opinion, I don't give two sh!ts about what he thinks. He makes games that's all I care about, I don't care what system he prefers. I think Naughty Dog is better than Carmack and they like PS3 better. We all have our favoirtes Delta, it supports our own bias.

But like I said, my opinion is my opinion. Carmack's opinion doesn't matter to me.

We all have our opinins, in mine ND is superior to Carmac. And most devs have no problems with PS3 architiecture, only a few devs had issues. Most multiplats look the same so it's obviously not true, they are different but not more difficult.

Wow, I only knew that Assassin's Creed Revelations came with the original Assassin's Creed, and Medal of Honor came with Medal of Honor Frontline.

It turns out that Battlefield 3, which I have, came with Battlefield 1943, but I thought that was the same for all versions, but it turns out it was only for PS3.

Then there is Bioshock Infinite, where the PS3 version is going to come with the original Bioshock game included on disc.

Then there is SSX, which will offer an exclusive level on the slopes of Mt. Fuji.

THQ will offer an exclusive game mode on the PS3 version of Saint's Row The Third.

Need For Speed: The Run on PS3 offers seven additional super cars.

It looks like this is becoming a trend now, making use of the extra space on the blu ray. As we all know, if it wasn't for the 360 holding everything back, the blu ray would be getting put to better use, but it is good to see that they are using that extra space for extra content and features at least.

And yet, somehow, games like God of War 3, the Uncharteds, MGS:4, the Infamous series...some of the best looking games this gen, end up getting made. :)

ispeakfact

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

And yet, somehow, games like God of War 3, the Uncharteds, MGS:4, the Infamous series...some of the best looking games this gen, end up getting made. :)

Stevo_the_gamer

You made a jelly. :lol:

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

Compelling statement there. I can't wait to see you prove it! :D

delta3074

PS3 gets bonus content in plenty of games like Medal of Honor, Assassin's Creed, Mafia 2, Dead Space 2 (9.0 PS3, 8.5 360) etc, etc because it can handle having the extra content. If devs did this on 360 people's fingers would be bleeding for swapping discs so often. These companies need to avoid lawsuits so they simply water down the games to the crutch of the 360 to avoid trouble. Sometimes the devs feel bad so they reward PS3 gamers with extra content for free for having their games held back

Skyrim reuses all the same textures throughout the game. That's why everything looks the same.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

And yet, somehow, games like God of War 3, the Uncharteds, MGS:4, the Infamous series...some of the best looking games this gen, end up getting made. :)

ispeakfact

You made a jelly. :lol:

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]You made a funny. LolStevo_the_gamer

You made a jelly. :lol:

Oh it's quite simple really.

1. Not own a PS3.

2. Get jealous at the best exlusives library this gen, that you can't play.

See? Easey peasey.

Wow, I only knew that Assassin's Creed Revelations came with the original Assassin's Creed, and Medal of Honor came with Medal of Honor Frontline.

It turns out that Battlefield 3, which I have, came with Battlefield 1943, but I thought that was the same for all versions, but it turns out it was only for PS3.

Then there is Bioshock Infinite, where the PS3 version is going to come with the original Bioshock game included on disc.

Then there is SSX, which will offer an exclusive level on the slopes of Mt. Fuji.

THQ will offer an exclusive game mode on the PS3 version of Saint's Row The Third.

Need For Speed: The Run on PS3 offers seven additional super cars.

It looks like this is becoming a trend now, making use of the extra space on the blu ray. As we all know, if it wasn't for the 360 holding everything back, the blu ray would be getting put to better use, but it is good to see that they are using that extra space for extra content and features at least.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

You made a jelly. :lol:

ispeakfact

Oh it's quite simple really.

1. Not own a PS3.

2. Get jealous at the best exlusives library this gen, that you can't play.

See? Easey peasey.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Cool for you, I however trust my own opinion and do things based off of what I want. Not what someone else likes or wants. Carmacks opinion is not my opinion, I don't give two sh!ts about what he thinks. He makes games that's all I care about, I don't care what system he prefers. I think Naughty Dog is better than Carmack and they like PS3 better. We all have our favoirtes Delta, it supports our own bias.

But like I said, my opinion is my opinion. Carmack's opinion doesn't matter to me.

ShadowMoses900

We all have our opinins, in mine ND is superior to Carmac. And most devs have no problems with PS3 architiecture, only a few devs had issues. Most multiplats look the same so it's obviously not true, they are different but not more difficult.

Your logic makes no sense, they are doing that because the 360 version of every if not all those Mplats sell more and they barely make profit on the PS3 version which also was proven with Bullet Storm. Nothing is holding anything back, explain how some Wii games have longer and more content, then some of these PS3 games WITH a free game in it? Exactly BIITCH GO SUCK A HOLE!Jakandsig_

Lol, I don't think you're aware of how disc space works, and what sorts of things take up disc space.

You bring up content, but that content takes place in a world full of low poly models and low res textures. The PS3 could fit 10 of the most content filled Wii games on 1 disc, because none of the expansive content you're talking about is taxing.

[QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] I don't know how to make jelly. D:Stevo_the_gamer

Oh it's quite simple really.

1. Not own a PS3.

2. Get jealous at the best exlusives library this gen, that you can't play.

See? Easey peasey.

Silly jelly boys you mean. ;)

i guess 360 Exclusive Games have potential to be par on Ps3 Exclusive Games but heldback by DVD Size Problems(but if you want it to be more hardcore exclusive you need to pay a extension(2nd Disc) to Microsoft)

Comment: Nice Microsoft you are freaking evil genius for more money

majestix1988

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="BPoole96"]

PS3 gets bonus content in plenty of games like Medal of Honor, Assassin's Creed, Mafia 2, Dead Space 2 (9.0 PS3, 8.5 360) etc, etc because it can handle having the extra content. If devs did this on 360 people's fingers would be bleeding for swapping discs so often. These companies need to avoid lawsuits so they simply water down the games to the crutch of the 360 to avoid trouble. Sometimes the devs feel bad so they reward PS3 gamers with extra content for free for having their games held back

arkephonic

Skyrim reuses all the same textures throughout the game. That's why everything looks the same.

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Your logic makes no sense, they are doing that because the 360 version of every if not all those Mplats sell more and they barely make profit on the PS3 version which also was proven with Bullet Storm. Nothing is holding anything back, explain how some Wii games have longer and more content, then some of these PS3 games WITH a free game in it? Exactly BIITCH GO SUCK A HOLE!arkephonic

Lol, I don't think you're aware of how disc space works, and what sorts of things take up disc space.

You bring up content, but that content takes place in a world full of low poly models and low res textures. The PS3 could fit 10 of the most content filled Wii games on 1 disc, because none of the expansive content you're talking about is taxing.

I like how you still haven't answered my questions

[QUOTE="majestix1988"]

i guess 360 Exclusive Games have potential to be par on Ps3 Exclusive Games but heldback by DVD Size Problems(but if you want it to be more hardcore exclusive you need to pay a extension(2nd Disc) to Microsoft)

Comment: Nice Microsoft you are freaking evil genius for more money

PAL360

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="ispeakfact"]

Oh it's quite simple really.

1. Not own a PS3.

2. Get jealous at the best exlusives library this gen, that you can't play.

See? Easey peasey.

ispeakfact

Silly jelly boys you mean. ;)

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Your logic makes no sense, they are doing that because the 360 version of every if not all those Mplats sell more and they barely make profit on the PS3 version which also was proven with Bullet Storm. Nothing is holding anything back, explain how some Wii games have longer and more content, then some of these PS3 games WITH a free game in it? Exactly BIITCH GO SUCK A HOLE!rilpas

Lol, I don't think you're aware of how disc space works, and what sorts of things take up disc space.

You bring up content, but that content takes place in a world full of low poly models and low res textures. The PS3 could fit 10 of the most content filled Wii games on 1 disc, because none of the expansive content you're talking about is taxing.

I like how you still haven't answered my questions

Lol, your questions about the PS2? Wrong forum, buddy!

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]how many of those games have as much extra content and features as Halo reach had out of the box?, and how many of those games have as much content as skyrim which only takes up HALF of the 360's DVD space, obviously Skyrim wasn't 'watered down' for the 360, it would have taken up the whole disk if it had been, also if it only takes up half the DVD space and if they can fit a game that huge onto half a DVD (only 6gb on PC as well) then maybe other developers should take a closer look at there compression methods,loldelta3074

Skyrim reuses all the same textures throughout the game. That's why everything looks the same.

All that effort into coding the game to remember where absoutely everything is dropped...no wonder why the combat is still terrible. I think it's time for Bethesda to rethink their priorities.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]how many of those games have as much extra content and features as Halo reach had out of the box?, and how many of those games have as much content as skyrim which only takes up HALF of the 360's DVD space, obviously Skyrim wasn't 'watered down' for the 360, it would have taken up the whole disk if it had been, also if it only takes up half the DVD space and if they can fit a game that huge onto half a DVD (only 6gb on PC as well) then maybe other developers should take a closer look at there compression methods,loldelta3074

Skyrim reuses all the same textures throughout the game. That's why everything looks the same.

You clearly don't have a good understanding of how video games work, and what sorts of things do and don't take up disc space.

Go read a book, we'll be here when you get back :lol:

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, I don't think you're aware of how disc space works, and what sorts of things take up disc space.

You bring up content, but that content takes place in a world full of low poly models and low res textures. The PS3 could fit 10 of the most content filled Wii games on 1 disc, because none of the expansive content you're talking about is taxing.

arkephonic

I like how you still haven't answered my questions

Lol, your questions about the PS2? Wrong forum, buddy!

I also asked about the PS3/360 versus the PC

but I guess answering any of those would bring out the hipocrisy in your claims wouldn't it?

You clearly don't have a good understanding of how video games work, and what sorts of things do and don't take up disc space.

Go read a book, we'll be here when you get back :lol:

arkephonic

coming from you that's hilarious :lol:

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="majestix1988"]

i guess 360 Exclusive Games have potential to be par on Ps3 Exclusive Games but heldback by DVD Size Problems(but if you want it to be more hardcore exclusive you need to pay a extension(2nd Disc) to Microsoft)

Comment: Nice Microsoft you are freaking evil genius for more money

arkephonic

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

360 ruined this generation and the Lemmings think it's funny. They know they messed up when they bought the 360 in the first place but it makes them feel better that the rest of us have to suffer along with them.

Pray_to_me

Well, i have to give you that....360 did ruin this generation for cows! It should be hard for an arrogant group of people, spend an entire gen getting the worst version of the most hyped and popular games :twisted:

[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

360 ruined this generation and the Lemmings think it's funny. They know they messed up when they bought the 360 in the first place but it makes them feel better that the rest of us have to suffer along with them.

PAL360

Well, i have to give you that....360 did ruin this generation for cows! It should be hard for an arrogant group of people, spend an entire gen getting the worst version of the most hyped and popular games :twisted:

meh, if arkephonic is anything to by, they are still as arrogant as ever

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Skyrim reuses all the same textures throughout the game. That's why everything looks the same.

arkephonic

You clearly don't have a good understanding of how video games work, and what sorts of things do and don't take up disc space.

Go read a book, we'll be here when you get back :lol:

[QUOTE="Jakandsig_"] Your logic makes no sense, they are doing that because the 360 version of every if not all those Mplats sell more and they barely make profit on the PS3 version which also was proven with Bullet Storm. Nothing is holding anything back, explain how some Wii games have longer and more content, then some of these PS3 games WITH a free game in it? Exactly BIITCH GO SUCK A HOLE!arkephonic

Lol, I don't think you're aware of how disc space works, and what sorts of things take up disc space.

You bring up content, but that content takes place in a world full of low poly models and low res textures. The PS3 could fit 10 of the most content filled Wii games on 1 disc, because none of the expansive content you're talking about is taxing.

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="majestix1988"]

i guess 360 Exclusive Games have potential to be par on Ps3 Exclusive Games but heldback by DVD Size Problems(but if you want it to be more hardcore exclusive you need to pay a extension(2nd Disc) to Microsoft)

Comment: Nice Microsoft you are freaking evil genius for more money

arkephonic

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

I get it.....so, in what aspect exactly is 360 holding back PS3? Do you honestly believe that a 8 hour long scripted game is more 'next gen' than a 350 hour long open world RPG, just because the format it fits on?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="majestix1988"]

i guess 360 Exclusive Games have potential to be par on Ps3 Exclusive Games but heldback by DVD Size Problems(but if you want it to be more hardcore exclusive you need to pay a extension(2nd Disc) to Microsoft)

Comment: Nice Microsoft you are freaking evil genius for more money

delta3074

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

If I were a betting man, I'd say you're the typical lemming who doesn't even own a PS3, and spouts nonsense acting like you've played Uncharted 3 inside and out, when in fact you haven't. Prove me wrong

Are you saying every 360 game that uses compressed audio has lossless audio? Not all cutscenes are "in-engine", so it's worth mentioning.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

arkephonic

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

and owning both makes you an expert? :lol:

Oh hey, I own over 800 games, I guess I know more about gaming then you do

[QUOTE="majestix1988"]

i guess 360 Exclusive Games have potential to be par on Ps3 Exclusive Games but heldback by DVD Size Problems(but if you want it to be more hardcore exclusive you need to pay a extension(2nd Disc) to Microsoft)

Comment: Nice Microsoft you are freaking evil genius for more money

PAL360

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

This could make sense if Halo Reach and Gears of War 3 werent more feature packed than any PS3 exclusive. It could also make sense if Gears 3 and Forza 4 didnt look as good as the best PS3 exclusives.

That said, you seem to have no point :P

PAL360

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

I get it.....so, in what aspect exactly is 360 holding back PS3? Do you honestly believe that a 8 hour long scripted game is more 'next gen' than a 350 hour long open world RPG, just because the format it fits on?

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past on Super Nintendo has more content, gameplay length and NPCs than a lot of games from this generation do.

Do you think that there is any possible way that you would be able to fit Zelda A Link to the Past on a blu ray disc?

and owning both makes you an expert? :lol:

rilpas

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]moot point, Gears 3 has just as many Hi-res textures as UC3 , and you have never heard of lossless compressed audio have you? which is a moot point any way because only Prerendered video suffers from compression and nearly all games use 'in-engine' cutscenes now.rilpas

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

and owning both makes you an expert? :lol:

Oh hey, I own over 800 games, I guess I know more about gaming then you do

Prove that you have a PS3 and Uncharted 3 so we know you're not just making things up to prove a false point.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

and owning both makes you an expert? :lol:

Stevo_the_gamer

I'm actually inclined to turn it into my new sig

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

arkephonic

and owning both makes you an expert? :lol:

Oh hey, I own over 800 games, I guess I know more about gaming then you do

Prove that you have a PS3 and Uncharted 3 so we know you're not just making things up to prove a false point.

and what things did I make up? :lol:

oh please please tell me, what thing AM I making up

oh please please tell me, what thing AM I making uprilpas

moot point, Gears 3 has just as many Hi-res textures as UC3rilpas

I don't even believe that you own a PS3 or Uncharted 3, and if you're willing to lie about something as silly as that, what would stop you from babbling about everything else? Just prove to me that you actually have a PS3 and Uncharted 3, and we can continue.

I don't even believe that you own a PS3 or Uncharted 3, and if you're willing to lie about something as silly as that, what would stop you from babbling about everything else? Just prove to me that you actually have a PS3 and Uncharted 3, and we can continue.

arkephonic

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurt

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I don't even believe that you own a PS3 or Uncharted 3, and if you're willing to lie about something as silly as that, what would stop you from babbling about everything else? Just prove to me that you actually have a PS3 and Uncharted 3, and we can continue.

rilpas

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurt

Oh, so the game you've never played has just as many high res textures as the other game you've never played?

Gotcha.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I don't even believe that you own a PS3 or Uncharted 3, and if you're willing to lie about something as silly as that, what would stop you from babbling about everything else? Just prove to me that you actually have a PS3 and Uncharted 3, and we can continue.

arkephonic

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurt

Oh, so the game you've never played has just as many high res textures as the other game you've never played?

Gotcha.

and where or when did I claim that? :|

I sugest you go back to grade school, because clearly you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

arkephonic

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

If I were a betting man, I'd say you're the typical lemming who doesn't even own a PS3, and spouts nonsense acting like you've played Uncharted 3 inside and out, when in fact you haven't. Prove me wrong

Are you saying every 360 game that uses compressed audio has lossless audio? Not all cutscenes are "in-engine", so it's worth mentioning.

anybody with an ounce of common sense can see that,loldelta3074

I think you're demanding too much from him :P

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I don't even believe that you own a PS3 or Uncharted 3, and if you're willing to lie about something as silly as that, what would stop you from babbling about everything else? Just prove to me that you actually have a PS3 and Uncharted 3, and we can continue.

rilpas

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurt

[QUOTE="PAL360"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Additional game modes don't take up additional space on a disc. Those additional game modes just put you in different situations and scenarios, against different odds, but they take place in the same maps, using the same textures, the same weapons, the same enemy and friendly character models, the same everything. They just add a time limit. That doesn't require disc space.

The stuff that requires disc space is a large variety of different high resolution textures. Notice how Skyrim doesn't have a large variety of textures? Notice how Uncharted has an overwhelming amount of different high resolution textures? That's the difference, that's why Skyrim doesn't require much space and a game like UC3 does.

Things like uncompressed audio and video take up more space, and it is of higher quality than compressed audio and video. The 360 primarily uses heavily compressed audio and video, which isn't of the same quality as uncompressed audio and video, and that is a fact.

arkephonic

I get it.....so, in what aspect exactly is 360 holding back PS3? Do you honestly believe that a 8 hour long scripted game is more 'next gen' than a 350 hour long open world RPG, just because the format it fits on?

The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past on Super Nintendo has more content, gameplay length and NPCs than a lot of games from this generation do.

Do you think that there is any possible way that you would be able to fit Zelda A Link to the Past on a blu ray disc?

But im talking about similar looking games from the same generation. Theres no graphical diference between the best PS3 exclusives, the best 360 exclusives and a few multiplats.

Considering that, i take the game with the most content and features over the game with uncompressed audio and CGI cutscenes.

Oh, so the game you've never played has just as many high res textures as the other game you've never played?

Gotcha.

arkephonic

and where or when did I claim that? :|

I sugest you go back to grade school, because clearly you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year oldrilpas

moot point, Gears 3 has just as many Hi-res textures as UC3rilpas

no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.rilpas

Lol.