How many multi-plats were held back this generation because of 360's DVD format?

Only one that comes to mind is LA Noire. Was there any else? Dead Space 2 was identical on both. Mass Effect 2 ended up being superior on Xbox 360, as did Rage. Not many multi disk games, and even more rare is being inferior to PS3 counterparts. If anything was true this generation, it was Bluray holding the PS3 back.Stevo_the_gamer

Edit: I just thought of FF13. So now we're at a whopping two!

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

I don't even believe that you own a PS3 or Uncharted 3, and if you're willing to lie about something as silly as that, what would stop you from babbling about everything else? Just prove to me that you actually have a PS3 and Uncharted 3, and we can continue.

White_Dreams

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurt

I have no problem achkownleding it, thing is, with PS3 fanboys it seems like it's a one way street:

"360 held back our games!"

"PS3 too dificult to program for? LOLZ LADY DEVS!"

[QUOTE="rilpas"]and where or when did I claim that? :|

I sugest you go back to grade school, because clearly you have the reading comprehension of a 5 year oldarkephonic

moot point, Gears 3 has just as many Hi-res textures as UC3rilpas

Lol.

I sugest you go back and read up on your posts, I never said that dumbass, Delta did

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Oh, so the game you've never played has just as many high res textures as the other game you've never played?

Gotcha.

Stevo_the_gamer

So wait, you're saying that someone who has never played Uncharted 3 knows just as much about the game as someone who has played through it?

I pronounce you, king of logic.

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Oh, so the game you've never played has just as many high res textures as the other game you've never played?

Gotcha.

arkephonic

So wait, you're saying that someone who has never played Uncharted 3 knows just as much about the game who has played through it?

I pronounce you, king of logic.

and where did he say that? :|

my god, seriously, are you in grade school?

I have no problem achkownleding it, thing is, with PS3 fanboys it seems like it's a one way street:

"360 held back our games!"

"PS3 too dificult to program for? LOLZ LADY DEVS!"

rilpas

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"]

No one here can say with certainly--or even with a grain of confidence--which of the two hold more high-resolution textures. I've played both, while only owning Uncharted 3, and I can say with certainly that you have no clue what you're talking about. Both games look great, you're not an expert at Digital Foundry--quit pretending you're one.

arkephonic

So wait, you're saying that someone who has never played Uncharted 3 knows just as much about the game as someone who has played through it?

I pronounce you, king of logic.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] No one here can say with certainly--or even with a grain of confidence--which of the two hold more high-resolution textures. I've played both, while only owning Uncharted 3, and I can say with certainly that you have no clue what you're talking about. Both games look great, you're not an expert at Digital Foundry--quit pretending you're one.

rilpas

So wait, you're saying that someone who has never played Uncharted 3 knows just as much about the game who has played through it?

I pronounce you, king of logic.

and where did he say that? :|

my god, seriously, are you in grade school?

Only Lemmings would agree on something as silly as the notion of someone who has never played a game knows more about it than someone who has.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

I have no problem achkownleding it, thing is, with PS3 fanboys it seems like it's a one way street:

"360 held back our games!"

"PS3 too dificult to program for? LOLZ LADY DEVS!"

White_Dreams

in every gen there's at least one system that hold back games for another

this gen is an exception because all three systems hold back games for each other, the last time this happened was in during the 5th gen with the Saturn, PS1 and N64

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So wait, you're saying that someone who has never played Uncharted 3 knows just as much about the game who has played through it?

I pronounce you, king of logic.

arkephonic

and where did he say that? :|

my god, seriously, are you in grade school?

Only Lemmings would agree on something as silly as the notion of someone who has never played a game knows more about it than someone who has.

oh, you're trolling aren't you?

Lol, Riplas is too funny. He's trying to say that Delta said his quote, when I just double checked and it was in fact Riplas who said it.

Backtracking much?

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

If I were a betting man, I'd say you're the typical lemming who doesn't even own a PS3, and spouts nonsense acting like you've played Uncharted 3 inside and out, when in fact you haven't. Prove me wrong

Are you saying every 360 game that uses compressed audio has lossless audio? Not all cutscenes are "in-engine", so it's worth mentioning.

arkephonic

So owning and playing the game makes you an expert on it?

I own both Gears 3 and UC3 and I say you're wrong and that the two are equal in terms of high resolution textures. Prove me wrong.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

So wait, you're saying that someone who has never played Uncharted 3 knows just as much about the game who has played through it?

I pronounce you, king of logic.

arkephonic

and where did he say that? :|

my god, seriously, are you in grade school?

Only Lemmings would agree on something as silly as the notion of someone who has never played a game knows more about it than someone who has.

Lol, Riplas is too funny. He's trying to say that Delta said his quote, when I just double checked and it was in fact Riplas who said it.

Backtracking much?

arkephonic

you were saying?

I wonder if people going on about how the 360 supposedly "held back" third party titles because of its DVD format realize that there's not a single PS3 exclusive that outpaces the best 360 exclusives in terms of content.

FallenAngel-

This is probably the most sensible and most overlooked post in this thread.

So, Cows, explain this one if you can. Why doesn't the PS3 have any exclusives that significantly outpace 360 exclusives in terms of content?

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

If I were a betting man, I'd say you're the typical lemming who doesn't even own a PS3, and spouts nonsense acting like you've played Uncharted 3 inside and out, when in fact you haven't. Prove me wrong

Are you saying every 360 game that uses compressed audio has lossless audio? Not all cutscenes are "in-engine", so it's worth mentioning.

The_Game21x

So owning and playing the game makes you an expert on it?

I own both Gears 3 and UC3 and I say you're wrong and that the two are equal in terms of high resolution textures. Prove me wrong.

I never said expert, I said that having played through the game gives more credibility than having not played the game at all.

Agree or disagree?

Lol, Riplas is too funny. He's trying to say that Delta said his quote, when I just double checked and it was in fact Riplas who said it.

Backtracking much?

arkephonic

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Only Lemmings would agree on something as silly as the notion of someone who has never played a game knows more about it than someone who has.

rilpas

oh, you're trolling aren't you?

And he sucks at it too.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Gears 3 doesn't have nearly as many hi res textures as UC3. I own both, and have played through both extensively, I think I'd know.

If I were a betting man, I'd say you're the typical lemming who doesn't even own a PS3, and spouts nonsense acting like you've played Uncharted 3 inside and out, when in fact you haven't. Prove me wrong

Are you saying every 360 game that uses compressed audio has lossless audio? Not all cutscenes are "in-engine", so it's worth mentioning.

arkephonic

So owning and playing the game makes you an expert on it?

I own both Gears 3 and UC3 and I say you're wrong and that the two are equal in terms of high resolution textures. Prove me wrong.

I never said expert, I said that having played through the game gives more credibility than having not played the game at all.

Agree or disagree?

You assume merely playing the games extensively gives you the ability to judge the two on the basis of high resolution textures. Again, I say they're equal and I own and have played both extensively. Prove me wrong.

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Only Lemmings would agree on something as silly as the notion of someone who has never played a game knows more about it than someone who has.

waltefmoney

oh, you're trolling aren't you?

And he sucks at it too.

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Lol, Riplas is too funny. He's trying to say that Delta said his quote, when I just double checked and it was in fact Riplas who said it.

Backtracking much?

delta3074

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Okay, I just checked a second time.... here it is....

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurtrilpas

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="rilpas"]

oh, you're trolling aren't you?

White_Dreams

And he sucks at it too.

I don't think he was trolling at first, but he probably got himself into a corner with Delta and is now resorting to trolling his thread

let's say he was trolling, this thread is like 20 pages, does he really suck?White_Dreams

He does, system wars is just soo easy to bait lately. WE DEMAND BETTER TROLLS!

You assume merely playing the games extensively gives you the ability to judge the two on the basis of high resolution textures. Again, I say they're equal and I own and have played both extensively. Prove me wrong.The_Game21x

Yeah, playing a game absolutely allows you to see the variety of the different amount of high resolution textures used throughout a game. I thought Uncharted 3 had much more variety in textures throughout different levels than Gears of War 3 did, it was painstakingly apparent.

Edit: That's not to be confused with better textures, I said a higher amount of different, varied textures.

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]no it wasn't, it was actually me, you must have messed up the quote train,look back further.arkephonic

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Okay, I just checked a second time.... here it is....

So you can't argue systems or games unless you own them? :lol:

I do own a PS3, no I don't own Uncharted 3 or gears 3, I played Uncharted 2 and Gears 2 and thought bought of those games were overrated as hell.

I own both a PS3 and a 360 and really the difference between them is so minimal I'd call them "hardly there"

every gen there's a system that holds back games for other systems, the PS3 and 360 hold back the PC

the PS2 held back every other console this gen

PS1 and N64 is actually hard for me to tell

the Genesis held back the SNES

NES held back the master system

but please, keep going I am LOVING your but hurtrilpas

How many multi-plats were held back this generation because of 360's DVD format?

None. Multi-plats are generally fine on the 360. And often better on the 360 with DVD format than the PS3 with Blu-ray. Example - Skyrim.

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]You assume merely playing the games extensively gives you the ability to judge the two on the basis of high resolution textures. Again, I say they're equal and I own and have played both extensively. Prove me wrong.arkephonic

Yeah, playing a game absolutely allows you to see the variety of the different amount of high resolution textures used throughout a game. I thought Uncharted 3 had much more variety in textures throughout different levels than Gears of War 3 did, it was painstakingly apparent.

Edit: That's not to be confused with better textures, I said a higher amount of different, varied textures.

About zero.Fizzman

Agreed. Anyone who says otherwise are just ignorant.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]i think ND are a top tier developer, to do what they have done with the Ps3's hard to develope for architecture is brilliant as far as i am concerned, Carmack has been around longer and has more experience, although an awesome developer ND hasn't exactly done anything that has influenced the direction of gaming, and carmack creates engines, he doesn't just 'make games' dude.delta3074

We all have our opinins, in mine ND is superior to Carmac. And most devs have no problems with PS3 architiecture, only a few devs had issues. Most multiplats look the same so it's obviously not true, they are different but not more difficult.

Nah your full of sh!t, most multiplats are the same virtually, you can't tell the difference between them. There goes your harder to develop for argument, and a few developers don't like PS3 doesn't represent the majoirty. There are plenty of devs who prefer the PS3 you know, some even learned to like it later like Valve, who now says the PS3 is the better system and is more powerful.

Sam Houser of Rockstar said the PS3 is more powerful and better, so I think I'll take their opinion. If it was harder to develop for than we would see it more often in multiplats, be don't. When you compare exclusives you can see the power of the PS3, and how weak and limited the 360 is.

Both systems are made for different people, but anyone from an objective standpoint can see the PS3 is better. It's more powerful, offers more exclusives, get's all the great mulitplats that look identicle, free online, and it's more reilable and has Blu Ray (which does matter, some games are too big for 360. And you can store more graphic data on Blu Ray than DVD)

Sorry them the facts. But I'm tired debating with you, these arguments go in circles. I still think Uncharted is better than Gears in every single category especially the shooting and cover, this just upsets you because you cannotenough to handle different opinions. And I still think most multiplats are the same. I'm not going to argue with you anymore, there's no point.

Your just as biased as anyone else around here, wish GCD would be more popular, I hate this place. Nothing here is accurate. You have fun with your 360, I'll have fun with PS3. Love and Peace!

[QUOTE="arkephonic"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]You assume merely playing the games extensively gives you the ability to judge the two on the basis of high resolution textures. Again, I say they're equal and I own and have played both extensively. Prove me wrong.delta3074

Yeah, playing a game absolutely allows you to see the variety of the different amount of high resolution textures used throughout a game. I thought Uncharted 3 had much more variety in textures throughout different levels than Gears of War 3 did, it was painstakingly apparent.

Edit: That's not to be confused with better textures, I said a higher amount of different, varied textures.

Ah, the quotes got messed up, it was you who said it.

Have you played UC3?

what are you talking about, eve sony admitted most PS3 games weren't bigger than 9GBThe_RedLion

what are you talking about, eve sony admitted most PS3 games weren't bigger than 9GBThe_RedLion

So do you have a link or 2 to dispute the 20 links on the 1st page saying otherwise?

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]what are you talking about, eve sony admitted most PS3 games weren't bigger than 9GBrilpas

[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="arkephonic"]

Yeah, playing a game absolutely allows you to see the variety of the different amount of high resolution textures used throughout a game. I thought Uncharted 3 had much more variety in textures throughout different levels than Gears of War 3 did, it was painstakingly apparent.

Edit: That's not to be confused with better textures, I said a higher amount of different, varied textures.

arkephonic

Ah, the quotes got messed up, it was you who said it.

Have you played UC3?

No he has not, but he likes to talk like he does. Tell him it looks and plays better than Gears if you want to piss him off. He can't handle different opinions.

No he has not, but he likes to talk like he does. Tell him it looks and plays better than Gears if you want to piss him off. He can't handle different opinions.

ShadowMoses900

delta's a cool bro, lay off.

Lol, Rilpas got mixed up in a Gamespot quotation forum glitch.

My apologies, Rilpas.

[QUOTE="Fizzman"]About zero.garland51

Agreed. Anyone who says otherwise are just ignorant.

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No he has not, but he likes to talk like he does. Tell him it looks and plays better than Gears if you want to piss him off. He can't handle different opinions.

waltefmoney

delta's a cool bro, lay off.

He's a grown man, he can take care of himself. People do it to me all the time, why not repay the favor?

He's a grown man, he can take care of himself. People do it to me all the time, why not repay the favor?

ShadowMoses900

People troll you all the time?

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

No he has not, but he likes to talk like he does. Tell him it looks and plays better than Gears if you want to piss him off. He can't handle different opinions.

ShadowMoses900

delta's a cool bro, lay off.

He's a grown man, he can take care of himself. People do it to me all the time, why not repay the favor?

the difference is Delta doesn't say dumb things like only smart people like Metal Gear Solid 4

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

He's a grown man, he can take care of himself. People do it to me all the time, why not repay the favor?

waltefmoney

People troll you all the time?

Yes, yes they do. They just don't know how to do it right. There's a way to handle each user, you just have to learn how. I'm not trying to upset him or anyone else, he threw some punches at me so I'm throwing a few back.

It's light hearted fun, it's not serious. But he did get mad at me because I thought Uncharted has better gameplay than Gears, people have different opinions, wow what world are we on!

[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

[QUOTE="waltefmoney"]

delta's a cool bro, lay off.

rilpas

He's a grown man, he can take care of himself. People do it to me all the time, why not repay the favor?

the difference is Delta doesn't say dumb things like only smart people like Metal Gear Solid 4

lol I never said that, not anything close. I do say dumb things when I'm joking.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]what are you talking about, eve sony admitted most PS3 games weren't bigger than 9GBarkephonic

So do you have a link or 2 to dispute the 20 links on the 1st page saying otherwise?

from Sony themselves