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#201 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="Avian005"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] yeah but Sony fans have so many great games to choose from when voting. xbox fans on the other hand vote blindly for halo each time. try to understand what i mean.SamiRDuran

Halo, Gears of War, Mass Effect...Honestly, all fanboys do the same thing, don't just try to flamebait the lemmings.

come on now you really dont agree to what i am saying? check the last thread where voting took place to see for yourself.

360 more games than PS3. Check.

360 more critically acclaimed games than PS3. Check.

360 games (not just Halo, ALL sorts of games) selling more than PS3. Check.

360 owner has a lot more to choose from than PS3 owner. Check.

Your whole earlier sentence is just untrue.

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#202 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] yeah but Sony fans have so many great games to choose from when voting. xbox fans on the other hand vote blindly for halo each time. try to understand what i mean.Avian005

Xbox 360 OWNS PS3 in games this gen, so Xbox fans have A LOT MORE GAMES to choose from.

Good try, though.

Or no. Terrible try. And weak argument.

He had a point (too a certain degree).

what point? ps3 has the only AAAAe and is on par with the xbox360 in terms of AAAe. not to mention the fact that the xbox360 came out 1 year earlier.
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#203 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="Singularity22"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Weakest argument ever. LMAO. Halo > Half-Life in scores and sales and importance of FPS history. Just face it. Don't come up with weak and false arguments...

SODRChief

Thats not a false argument, dill weed.

It's the most false, ridiculous and ludicrous argument in the history of mankind.

But yeah, when you've got NOTHING else, you need to use something, at least.........

:lol: You like to make it crystal clear you are knew around here and have yet to come to grasp with the way things work. thanks for making this thread, because your responses are cracking me up.

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#204 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

I never said total players of Halo 3 MP > total CS players.

I said that more people play Halo 3's online multiplayer on 360 each day than people play any CS version's online multiplayer on a computer each day, unless, of course, you show me your god-like link to prove me wrong.

horrowhip

CS is a 10 year old game....

You don't think people have moved on from it over time? The fact that it STILL gets 90K+ players on any given day is amazing... Specifically given that Counter-Strike: Source fragmented the user-base...

Do you think that 10 years from now Halo 3 is even going to have 10K people playing it daily? No...

If Microsoft or Bugnie were to support it with mods and update it, why not? Halo 2 had 2.5 million who were playing it 3 years later, but that died of course since H3 was released. But yeah, maybe.

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#205 AdrianWerner
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The way it tells the story with no cutscenes?

stepat201

Plenty of games had FPP storytelling, not necessary without any cutscenes at all (some had few), but then again..HL hardly had any real story to begin with, you can literaly tell the whole story in 4 sentences without omiting anything. HL story was close to non-existant, it just told this simple tale with amazing grace and atmosphere. But the actual tools to tell it: all been done before, just not as good.

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#206 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="Singularity22"]

Thats not a false argument, dill weed.

TheGreatOutdoor

It's the most false, ridiculous and ludicrous argument in the history of mankind.

But yeah, when you've got NOTHING else, you need to use something, at least.........

:lol: You like to make it crystal clear you are knew around here and have yet to come to grasp with the way things work. thanks for making this thread, because your responses are cracking me up.

PC doesn't have higher standards, Halo outscored it, get over it. Halo is recognized as one of the best games ever.

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#207 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"][QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]Of course you wouldn't. But you not saying it means nothing. The fact is, more people like Halo. Your opinion has been noted, but Fact>opinion.

Avian005

well the facts are Half life outsold Halo, half life 2 outsold halo 2 and I bet the day Half life 3 is announced the internet will go on fire. facts disagree with your opinion...

And another fact, Halo: Combat Evolved scored bett than Half-Life.

what does this have to do with the popularity of the games? btw, scores are opinions not facts.
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#208 CwlHeddwyn
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[QUOTE="Drukter"][QUOTE="SODRChief"]

It's the most false, ridiculous and ludicrous argument in the history of mankind.

But yeah, when you've got NOTHING else, you need to use something, at least.........

Pinkyimp

Unfortunately it is true. Also let's not mention and Counter-Strike (HL mod) is far more successful than Halo multiplayer will ever be.

Right after the 360's cycle halo will die out, and some other new FPS will take its place just like every single other console FPS, it just happens, Everyone will forget about halo and move on to something else, while CS will be going strong for another 10 years.

People still use Ham radio. doesn't make mobile phones any less dominant. CS has a following indeed but it doesn't make it the greatest FPS ever made. It's popular in many cases due to it's lower hardware requirements. Console gamers on the other hand played Halo on Xbox but have moved onto newer things like Halo3 for example.

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#209 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Link to a CS version that has around 1 million daily unique players.

LINK NOW.

SODRChief

There's no need, I've been to internet cafes in south korea, phillipines and taiwan and everyone there plays CS. And internet cafe's are as common as convenience stores in oriental asia.

LMAO.

Link now, please. About 1 million unique daily players. Now and here, link.

Notbody cares that you want a link to this common knowledge that everybody but you seems to already know. So give it a rest already.

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#210 foxhound_fox
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PC doesn't have higher standards, Halo outscored it, get over it. Halo is recognized as one of the best games ever.

SODRChief


It is? Please, show me where: Link

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#211 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

There's no need, I've been to internet cafes in south korea, phillipines and taiwan and everyone there plays CS. And internet cafe's are as common as convenience stores in oriental asia.

TheGreatOutdoor

LMAO.

Link now, please. About 1 million unique daily players. Now and here, link.

Notbody cares that you want a link to this common knowledge that everybody but you seems to already know. So give it a rest already.

How did everybody get to know? I'm sure they read it somewhere, I can't find it ANYWHERE. So therefore, I'd just want a link...

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#212 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="Pinkyimp"][QUOTE="Drukter"] Unfortunately it is true. Also let's not mention and Counter-Strike (HL mod) is far more successful than Halo multiplayer will ever be.CwlHeddwyn

Right after the 360's cycle halo will die out, and some other new FPS will take its place just like every single other console FPS, it just happens, Everyone will forget about halo and move on to something else, while CS will be going strong for another 10 years.

People still use Ham radio. doesn't make mobile phones any less dominant. CS has a following indeed but it doesn't make it the greatest FPS ever made. It's popular in many cases due to it's lower hardware requirements. Console gamers on the other hand played Halo on Xbox but have moved onto newer things like Halo3 for example.

HL2 is a forgiving engine.. I garentee that it has little to nothing to do with hardware requirements on why people play Counter Strike or numerous other Half-Life mods. Same reasons why Blizzard games like Starcraft, and Diablo 2 are still played to this game.. Because they are unique experiences that no other game has ever surpassed.. Thats the difference with the console, there are entirely too few games that are unique to other games let alone will be playing for years... Mods are the number one reason why Half-Life is superior to Halo in every way..

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#213 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]PC doesn't have higher standards, Halo outscored it, get over it. Halo is recognized as one of the best games ever.

foxhound_fox


It is? Please, show me where: Link

Yes, it is. Read Halo's featured Wiki site (written from a totally neutral point of view).

Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best[10] and most important[11] games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone"[12] and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it.[13][14]

Oh, and by "generally", they don't mean one particular site, like GS or IGN, they mean in the general.

Halo: CE = one of the most criticallcy acclaimed FPS ever and generally known as one of the best FPS ever.

Is MJ "genrally" consider King of Pop by one particular site or magazine? didn't think so. face the Halo facts.

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#214 SparkyProtocol
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... Any sane person that has even remotely looked at the Half-Life game would realize why its better.. Even if you didn't even touch the singleplayer there are litterally hundreds of amazing free mods for the game for multiplayer or singleplayer.. Halo hasn't even produced anything remotely unique to what I have played mods like Natural Selection.. Such a ground breaking and interesting mod that it is now having a sequel being professionally made. Halo is pretty good, but it falls in every comparison out there, the onlyt hing I would say it has that HL does not is split screen co-op.. Notice I didn't say co-op in general because they have already made such thigns for HL for lan.sSubZerOo
*sigh* Half-Life having mods makes Half-Life better than Halo? That is like stating Oblivion with mods make it better than Fallout 3.
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#215 SamiRDuran
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Bad try to dance around the subject. 4-0. I'm not saying Half-Life sucks. Halo is just one of the greatest games ever.

No wonder it was #2 after OoT on a "greatest ever poll" here at GameSpot (the latest, I think).

Spin away.

SODRChief

if you like polls so much make a half life versus halo CE one to see what people think. i dare you.

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#216 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

perfect_chao, I wouldn't say more people prefer Half-Life...

SamiRDuran

Of course you wouldn't. But you not saying it means nothing. The fact is, more people like Halo. Your opinion has been noted, but Fact>opinion.

well the facts are Half life outsold Halo, half life 2 outsold halo 2 and I bet the day Half life 3 is announced the internet will go on fire. facts disagree with your opinion...

I am glad you responded, I had a typo in there. I mean Half Life in the sentence "The fact is, more people like Halo", not Halo. I am fixing now.

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#217 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Bad try to dance around the subject. 4-0. I'm not saying Half-Life sucks. Halo is just one of the greatest games ever.

No wonder it was #2 after OoT on a "greatest ever poll" here at GameSpot (the latest, I think).

Spin away.

SamiRDuran

if you like polls so much make a half life versus halo CE one to see what people think. i dare you.

Isn't it obvious that every Sony fan (the majority here, in other words) would vote against Halo?

I just think the latest big "Greatest Games Ever" poll was good - where Halo got a pretty good position.

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#218 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

LMAO.

Link now, please. About 1 million unique daily players. Now and here, link.

SODRChief

Notbody cares that you want a link to this common knowledge that everybody but you seems to already know. So give it a rest already.

How did everybody get to know? I'm sure they read it somewhere, I can't find it ANYWHERE. So therefore, I'd just want a link...

Yea, but the way you are demanding it like you are somebody special makes nobody want to give you a link.

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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]... Any sane person that has even remotely looked at the Half-Life game would realize why its better.. Even if you didn't even touch the singleplayer there are litterally hundreds of amazing free mods for the game for multiplayer or singleplayer.. Halo hasn't even produced anything remotely unique to what I have played mods like Natural Selection.. Such a ground breaking and interesting mod that it is now having a sequel being professionally made. Halo is pretty good, but it falls in every comparison out there, the onlyt hing I would say it has that HL does not is split screen co-op.. Notice I didn't say co-op in general because they have already made such thigns for HL for lan.SparkyProtocol
*sigh* Half-Life having mods makes Half-Life better than Halo? That is like stating Oblivion with mods make it better than Fallout 3.

..... Perhapes because it most likely does if you get the mods that appeal to you? Halo has none such mods, while Half-Life has countless mods.. Get back to me when I can play mods like Natural Selection.. The only thing I will argue on substance for the game is Halo 1's singleplayer campaign was tedious at best in numerous areas where it felt like copy and pasted environments after copy and pasted environemtns.. This isn't to suggest its a bad game its a great game, one of the few I have seen with such a great co-op mode.. But as I have said Half-Life is superior in just about every way..
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#220 AdrianWerner
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Halo: CE = one of the most criticallcy acclaimed FPS ever and generally known as one of the best FPS ever.

SODRChief

The same thing could be said about Half-Life though and HL1 almost always beats Halo on any top lists magazines and sites make

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#221 SragentThom
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

I never said total players of Halo 3 MP > total CS players.

I said that more people play Halo 3's online multiplayer on 360 each day than people play any CS version's online multiplayer on a computer each day, unless, of course, you show me your god-like link to prove me wrong.

SODRChief

CS is a 10 year old game....

You don't think people have moved on from it over time? The fact that it STILL gets 90K+ players on any given day is amazing... Specifically given that Counter-Strike: Source fragmented the user-base...

Do you think that 10 years from now Halo 3 is even going to have 10K people playing it daily? No...

If Microsoft or Bugnie were to support it with mods and update it, why not? Halo 2 had 2.5 million who were playing it 3 years later, but that died of course since H3 was released. But yeah, maybe.

On wiki A halo demo on the pc have the most mods of all time.

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#222 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

Bad try to dance around the subject. 4-0. I'm not saying Half-Life sucks. Halo is just one of the greatest games ever.

No wonder it was #2 after OoT on a "greatest ever poll" here at GameSpot (the latest, I think).

Spin away.

SODRChief

if you like polls so much make a half life versus halo CE one to see what people think. i dare you.

Isn't it obvious that every Sony fan (the majority here, in other words) would vote against Halo?

I just think the latest big "Greatest Games Ever" poll was good - where Halo got a pretty good position.

exactly. it's as obvious as xbox fans voting only for halo.
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#223 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]Notbody cares that you want a link to this common knowledge that everybody but you seems to already know. So give it a rest already.

TheGreatOutdoor

How did everybody get to know? I'm sure they read it somewhere, I can't find it ANYWHERE. So therefore, I'd just want a link...

Yea, but the way you are demanding it like you are somebody special makes nobody want to give you a link.

Since nobody wants to tell me where they heard a CS version having around 1M unique daily players nowadays, I somewhat think they make the numbers up, yeah...

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#224 foxhound_fox
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Yes, it is. Read Halo's featured Wiki site (written from a totally neutral point of view).

Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it.

Oh, and by "generally", they don't mean one particular site, like GS or IGN, they mean in the general.

Halo: CE = one of the most criticallcy acclaimed FPS ever and generally known as one of the best FPS ever.

Is MJ "genrally" consider King of Pop by one particular site or magazine? didn't think so. face the Halo facts.

SODRChief


Welcome to System Wars, where only Gamespot's opinion's count.

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#225 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] if you like polls so much make a half life versus halo CE one to see what people think. i dare you.

SamiRDuran

Isn't it obvious that every Sony fan (the majority here, in other words) would vote against Halo?

I just think the latest big "Greatest Games Ever" poll was good - where Halo got a pretty good position.

exactly. it's as obvious as xbox fans voting only for halo.

Too bad Xbox fans weren't close to being in the majority at that time...

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#226 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

It's the most false, ridiculous and ludicrous argument in the history of mankind.

But yeah, when you've got NOTHING else, you need to use something, at least.........

SODRChief

:lol: You like to make it crystal clear you are knew around here and have yet to come to grasp with the way things work. thanks for making this thread, because your responses are cracking me up.

PC doesn't have higher standards, Halo outscored it, get over it. Halo is recognized as one of the best games ever.

Like I already stated, stick around and learn a thing or two. Whether you like it or not. Whether you face the facts or not. It mean nothing. In the end, PC has higher standards and you believing or not believing that fact changes nothing. Popularity>score anyways and which has sold more (which are nothing more than one persons opinion)? Yea that's right, Half Life.

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#227 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]Yes, it is. Read Halo's featured Wiki site (written from a totally neutral point of view).

Many game magazines have praised Halo as one of the best and most important games of all time. The game's popularity has led to labels such as "Halo clone" and "Halo killer", applied respectively to games either similar to or anticipated to be better than it.

Oh, and by "generally", they don't mean one particular site, like GS or IGN, they mean in the general.

Halo: CE = one of the most criticallcy acclaimed FPS ever and generally known as one of the best FPS ever.

Is MJ "genrally" consider King of Pop by one particular site or magazine? didn't think so. face the Halo facts.

foxhound_fox


Welcome to System Wars, where only Gamespot's opinion's count.

Stop the damage control/spin.

I'd be banned if only gameSpot's opinion counted...

And Halo outscored HL on GS... but that doesnt matter

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#228 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]:lol: You like to make it crystal clear you are knew around here and have yet to come to grasp with the way things work. thanks for making this thread, because your responses are cracking me up.

TheGreatOutdoor

PC doesn't have higher standards, Halo outscored it, get over it. Halo is recognized as one of the best games ever.

Like I already stated, stick around and learn a thing or two. Whether you like it or not. Whether you face the facts or not. It mean nothing. In the end, PC has higher standards and you believing or not believing that fact changes nothing. Popularity>score anyways and which has sold more (which are nothing more than one persons opinion)? Yea that's right, Half Life.

PC doesn't have higher standards. No scientifical proof. Nothing. Just some words from your mouth.

And if sales are more important to scores, all GameSpot would be talking about would be Solitaire, Tetris, San Andreas, Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

Sorry, score > sales.

People talk more about higher-scoring games than highest-selling game.

And PC still doesn't have higher standard. That's just a very weak argument in order to make Half-Life look better than Halo, despite it being outscored by the console FPS mother.

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#229 foxhound_fox
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Stop the damage control/spin.

I'd be banned if only gameSpot's opinion counted...

And Halo outscored HL on GS... but that doesnt matter

SODRChief


Putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LALALALA" isn't a proper response to an argument.

Halo outscored Half life because PC shooters are held to higher standards than console shooters. Which is why the highest scoring shooters are Crysis, TOB and Unreal Tournament at 9.5 while there are only 25 other shooters EVER to score 9.0 or above.

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#230 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

How did everybody get to know? I'm sure they read it somewhere, I can't find it ANYWHERE. So therefore, I'd just want a link...

SODRChief

Yea, but the way you are demanding it like you are somebody special makes nobody want to give you a link.

Since nobody wants to tell me where they heard a CS version having around 1M unique daily players nowadays, I somewhat think they make the numbers up, yeah...

Well good for you. Again, believe what you wish, because in the end. What you believe and don't believe means nothing on the Facts. try asking for things nicer in the future and maybe you will get better responses from people in the future. But you continue on believe what you want because you know....what you believe mattaers more than facts. :roll:

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#231 SparkyProtocol
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"]... Any sane person that has even remotely looked at the Half-Life game would realize why its better.. Even if you didn't even touch the singleplayer there are litterally hundreds of amazing free mods for the game for multiplayer or singleplayer.. Halo hasn't even produced anything remotely unique to what I have played mods like Natural Selection.. Such a ground breaking and interesting mod that it is now having a sequel being professionally made. Halo is pretty good, but it falls in every comparison out there, the onlyt hing I would say it has that HL does not is split screen co-op.. Notice I didn't say co-op in general because they have already made such thigns for HL for lan.sSubZerOo
*sigh* Half-Life having mods makes Half-Life better than Halo? That is like stating Oblivion with mods make it better than Fallout 3.

..... Perhapes because it most likely does if you get the mods that appeal to you? Halo has none such mods, while Half-Life has countless mods.. Get back to me when I can play mods like Natural Selection.. The only thing I will argue on substance for the game is Halo 1's singleplayer campaign was tedious at best in numerous areas where it felt like copy and pasted environments after copy and pasted environemtns.. This isn't to suggest its a bad game its a great game, one of the few I have seen with such a great co-op mode.. But as I have said Half-Life is superior in just about every way..

Your basically saying that Half-Life isn't better than Halo without mods. Ofcourse Halo does not have mods since it is a console game. That is like me downloading some godly texture pack to Half Life that gives it better graphics than Crysis and saying Half-Life>Crysis in graphics.
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#232 SODRChief
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]Stop the damage control/spin.

I'd be banned if only gameSpot's opinion counted...

And Halo outscored HL on GS... but that doesnt matter

foxhound_fox


Putting your fingers in your ears and yelling "LALALALA" isn't a proper response to an argument.

Halo outscored Half life because PC shooters are held to higher standards than console shooters. Which is why the highest scoring shooters are Crysis, TOB and Unreal Tournament at 9.5 while there are only 25 other shooters EVER to score 9.0 or above.

Did not yell "LALAL", just proved you wrong.

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#233 TheGreatOutdoor
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[QUOTE="TheGreatOutdoor"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

PC doesn't have higher standards, Halo outscored it, get over it. Halo is recognized as one of the best games ever.

SODRChief

Like I already stated, stick around and learn a thing or two. Whether you like it or not. Whether you face the facts or not. It mean nothing. In the end, PC has higher standards and you believing or not believing that fact changes nothing. Popularity>score anyways and which has sold more (which are nothing more than one persons opinion)? Yea that's right, Half Life.

PC doesn't have higher standards. No scientifical proof. Nothing. Just some words from your mouth.

And if sales are more important to scores, all GameSpot would be talking about would be Solitaire, Tetris, San Andreas, Wii Sports and Wii Fit.

Sorry, score > sales.

People talk more about higher-scoring games than highest-selling game.

And PC still doesn't have higher standard. That's just a very weak argument in order to make Half-Life look better than Halo, despite it being outscored by the console FPS mother.

Facts stand on there own, so I refuse to defend them against you. Believe what you will, the facts are the facts and your beliefs don't change those facts.

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#234 JohnClog
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You can't convince people that Halo is better. Half Life 1 was great and a forward moving game for the industry. HL2 was a game that was mainly liked because it halo existed. [QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]

You forgot to include to the Half-Life quotes

Gamespot: "Half-Life is the closest thing to a revolutionary step the genre has ever taken."

IGN: "Nothing half-assed about it--this has to be the finest shooter ever crafted."

Plus the fact consoles have lower standards for games, ESPECIALLY at the time of release of CE.

Umm....since you quoted. Greg- "Halo is not only the best console first person shooter of all time on consoles, but easily one of the best, if not the best, first person shooter on any platform" Imo HL2 + episodes are good AA games that you playthrough. Similar to Bioshock (although HL is obviously not taking inspirations from rpgs) Saying Half Life is the best FPS of all time is like saying FarCry pc or FEAR were actually anything more than good shooters with amazing graphics. Same goes for Crysis.
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#235 SragentThom
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] *sigh* Half-Life having mods makes Half-Life better than Halo? That is like stating Oblivion with mods make it better than Fallout 3. SparkyProtocol
..... Perhapes because it most likely does if you get the mods that appeal to you? Halo has none such mods, while Half-Life has countless mods.. Get back to me when I can play mods like Natural Selection.. The only thing I will argue on substance for the game is Halo 1's singleplayer campaign was tedious at best in numerous areas where it felt like copy and pasted environments after copy and pasted environemtns.. This isn't to suggest its a bad game its a great game, one of the few I have seen with such a great co-op mode.. But as I have said Half-Life is superior in just about every way..

Your basically saying that Half-Life isn't better than Halo without mods. Ofcourse Halo does not have mods since it is a console game. That is like me downloading some godly texture pack to Half Life that gives it better graphics than Crysis and saying Half-Life>Crysis in graphics.

Lol is is possible to mod a console like the Xbox since at the time it's was the only pc like console at the time.You can look on the internet and see how many mods for Halo 2.

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#237 malikmmm
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GameSpot -

Half-Life: 9.4 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - GameSpot: "it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

IGN -

Half-Life: 9.5 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - IGN: "Halo is one of the best videogames. There I said it and I'm not going to take it back" IGN's second opinion: "Halo is the perfect example of what next-generation is about, in all forms"

GameRankings -

Half-Life: 94.06% -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 95.45% -

MetaCritic -

Half-Life: 96 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 97 -

SODRChief

So you created this thread for damage control or something ? remember the consoles and pc standereds....

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#239 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"][QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"] *sigh* Half-Life having mods makes Half-Life better than Halo? That is like stating Oblivion with mods make it better than Fallout 3. SparkyProtocol
..... Perhapes because it most likely does if you get the mods that appeal to you? Halo has none such mods, while Half-Life has countless mods.. Get back to me when I can play mods like Natural Selection.. The only thing I will argue on substance for the game is Halo 1's singleplayer campaign was tedious at best in numerous areas where it felt like copy and pasted environments after copy and pasted environemtns.. This isn't to suggest its a bad game its a great game, one of the few I have seen with such a great co-op mode.. But as I have said Half-Life is superior in just about every way..

Your basically saying that Half-Life isn't better than Halo without mods. Ofcourse Halo does not have mods since it is a console game. That is like me downloading some godly texture pack to Half Life that gives it better graphics than Crysis and saying Half-Life>Crysis in graphics.

I enjoyed its singleplayer better than Halo's but those are MY tastes.. I think both are great games, but multiplayer wise and the like Half-Life beats it by miles.. Thsi has nothign to do with graphics it has to do with specifically game play.. Half-Life was released intentionally easy to mod and change coming with its own map maker and the like.. Where numerous amazing games came from it like Team Fortress Classic, Brain bread, Counter Strike, etc etc.. So you can keep going on about ommitting it, the point stands that Half-Life is the superior game.. Its funny to that you try to put Half-Life to the standards of the console by trying to omit thigns when that isn't the case..
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#240 pyromaniac223
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I think Half Life is much better than Halo.
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#241 drufeous
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Half-Life > Halo. My opinion.

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#242 deactivated-59d151f079814
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[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

[QUOTE="malikmmm"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

GameSpot -

Half-Life: 9.4 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - GameSpot: "it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

IGN -

Half-Life: 9.5 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - IGN: "Halo is one of the best videogames. There I said it and I'm not going to take it back" IGN's second opinion: "Halo is the perfect example of what next-generation is about, in all forms"

GameRankings -

Half-Life: 94.06% -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 95.45% -

MetaCritic -

Half-Life: 96 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 97 -

So you created this thread for damage control or something ? remember the consoles and pc standereds....

"Standards" don't exist. Just some **** words from some mouths without any proof. So keep being sad.

Command and Conquer 3 for the Xbox360 got a 8.7.. Starcraft for the PC got a 9.1, Warcraft 3 for the pc got a 9.2... Any sane person would see that there are different standards if they had played both they would see clearly which game is the superior by miles..
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[QUOTE="SparkyProtocol"][QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] ..... Perhapes because it most likely does if you get the mods that appeal to you? Halo has none such mods, while Half-Life has countless mods.. Get back to me when I can play mods like Natural Selection.. The only thing I will argue on substance for the game is Halo 1's singleplayer campaign was tedious at best in numerous areas where it felt like copy and pasted environments after copy and pasted environemtns.. This isn't to suggest its a bad game its a great game, one of the few I have seen with such a great co-op mode.. But as I have said Half-Life is superior in just about every way..sSubZerOo
Your basically saying that Half-Life isn't better than Halo without mods. Ofcourse Halo does not have mods since it is a console game. That is like me downloading some godly texture pack to Half Life that gives it better graphics than Crysis and saying Half-Life>Crysis in graphics.

I enjoyed its singleplayer better than Halo's but those are MY tastes.. I think both are great games, but multiplayer wise and the like Half-Life beats it by miles.. Thsi has nothign to do with graphics it has to do with specifically game play.. Half-Life was released intentionally easy to mod and change coming with its own map maker and the like.. Where numerous amazing games came from it like Team Fortress Classic, Brain bread, Counter Strike, etc etc.. So you can keep going on about ommitting it, the point stands that Half-Life is the superior game.. Its funny to that you try to put Half-Life to the standards of the console by trying to omit thigns when that isn't the case..

Why won't you just compare the actual games than the modifications that people made for them. Like I said, someone could mod Half Life to where it has the most epic boss fight ever or something but that does not make the the actual game IE vanilla Half-Life>Halo.
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#244 deactivated-59d151f079814
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Why won't you just compare the actual games than the modifications that people made for them. Like I said, someone could mod Half Life to where it has the most epic boss fight ever or something but that does not make the the actual game IE vanilla Half-Life>Halo. SparkyProtocol
Because its one of the strengths of the pc.. I don't see why you arn't using your strengths.. Such as talkign about the split screen co-op, or the 4 split screen multiplayer modes where you could link systems.. Just because you won't use them doesn't mean they are out of the comparison.. Because in the end I haev already stated I prfered Half-Life venilla more, but its based up preference.. People like different things.. I have already said why Half life is the better game for the said reasons.. Thats the thing, this is really a console vs pc argument.. And yet again the same benefits for both should be included in the said comparisons.
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#245 malikmmm
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[QUOTE="malikmmm"]

[QUOTE="SODRChief"]

GameSpot -

Half-Life: 9.4 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - GameSpot: "it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

IGN -

Half-Life: 9.5 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - IGN: "Halo is one of the best videogames. There I said it and I'm not going to take it back" IGN's second opinion: "Halo is the perfect example of what next-generation is about, in all forms"

GameRankings -

Half-Life: 94.06% -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 95.45% -

MetaCritic -

Half-Life: 96 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 97 -

SODRChief

So you created this thread for damage control or something ? remember the consoles and pc standereds....

"Standards" don't exist. Just some **** words from some mouths without any proof. So keep being sad.

i am not Sad . you are the one that started using ^^^" **** " ^^^ in your speech. It might mean that you are just so desperate...
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#246 FloWeN-UK
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So we'veestablished that this troll likes playing halo and listening to 50 cent, it's all very clear now. All too clear.

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#247 malikmmm
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So we'veestablished that this troll likes playing halo and listening to 50 cent, it's all very clear now. All too clear.

FloWeN-UK
hehe. why feed the troll then ?
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#248 svetzenlether
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GameSpot -

Half-Life: 9.4 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - GameSpot: "it's easily one of the best shooters ever, on any platform."

IGN -

Half-Life: 9.5 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 9.7 - IGN: "Halo is one of the best videogames. There I said it and I'm not going to take it back" IGN's second opinion: "Halo is the perfect example of what next-generation is about, in all forms"

GameRankings -

Half-Life: 94.06% -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 95.45% -

MetaCritic -

Half-Life: 96 -

Halo: Combat Evolved: 97 -

Halo: Combat Evolved 4 - 0 Half-Life

Halo wins in every department and was a much more important, successful and entertaining title in the history of first-person shooters.Admire the facts.

SODRChief

I don't think Half-Life is better than Halo, I know it is...

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#249 xXSecksXx
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I still think Halo is the most overrated generic FPS ever made. It did nothing new and exciting, everything it has was already implemented in other FPS's. Half life was revolutionary, raising the expectations for all FPS's after it. Half life destroys halo.

Half life > > > > > > > > > > > Halo. IMO.

Congratulations your "facts" didn't do anything to change my opinion, nor did it change the opinion of anyone else here.

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#250 Wii_Gamer_277
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I enjoyed halo more then half life but Half life still is an amazing game I cant wait for episode 3 :D