In defense of Tom McShea...

Maybe we'll all come to respect his opinion because I know how many of us wish someone had the balls to give GTA4 a 7.5 because most people can agree it was a step back for the franchise.

There's so many topics about McShea. I wish they would stop.

oh he has balls and i appreciate that. but i disagree with his control issues in skyward sword, which led to the 7.5

now that ive played the game i did not experience ANY of the control issues he had, in fact i love them so much i would hate to go back to playing a zelda game with buttons.

if tom still thinks the game desevres that score then fine by me, my opinion is that it deserved more and thats all that matters to me now.

A sticky is needed about Tom McShea

In defense of Tom Mcshea, all Gamespot reviewers suck.

I'd disagree with GTA4 scoring a 7.5. I like Tom though, it was good of him to come to SW and talk about his Zelda review. Good reviewer.Ravensmash

To be honest I think he was valid. That being said, I'd like to see Gamespot be more consistent with its scores. I wish the site graded harder than it has been but people will just get angry if Tom is the only one doing it. Wasn't happy with that inFamous 2 score, but I'd get over it if some other games weren't scoring 8.5s-9.5s left and right.

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

This! give that garbage a 7.5 then we'll agree and have respect to this site

:P

A sticky is needed about Tom McShea

finalstar2007

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

lmao, i can see it now, fans raging just like they did for TP and more recently skyward sword

Tom doesnt need to be defended for having an opinion. The fanboys who actually took it personal are the ones who need "assistance" :Pnavyguy21

Excuse me but you stole things in Skyrim. Defense?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

finalstar2007

This! give that garbage a 7.5 then we'll agree and have respect to this site

:P

i woudlnt say halo is garbage, but it is overated that i can say

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

finalstar2007

This! give that garbage a 7.5 then we'll agree and have respect to this site

:P

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

almossbb

lmao, i can see it now, fans raging just like they did for TP and more recently skyward sword

[QUOTE="almossbb"]

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

lmao, i can see it now, fans raging just like they did for TP and more recently skyward sword

We all know he made a mistake. The game is a clear 8.5. At least he exposed the Zelda conspiracy.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Tom doesnt need to be defended for having an opinion. The fanboys who actually took it personal are the ones who need "assistance" :PRandomWinner

Excuse me but you stole things in Skyrim. Defense?

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="almossbb"]

lmao, i can see it now, fans raging just like they did for TP and more recently skyward sword

Slashless

[QUOTE="RandomWinner"]

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Tom doesnt need to be defended for having an opinion. The fanboys who actually took it personal are the ones who need "assistance" :Pnavyguy21

Excuse me but you stole things in Skyrim. Defense?

That reminds me of the plot to Heavy Rain...

only it was a well

[spoiler] and it was Scott Shelby [/spoiler]

[QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]This place is like some demented Halo sanctuary were fanboys never have to worry about thier beloved franchise being treated like other lowly series. Hell, even what should have been Halo 3 DLC, ODST got an inflated score here, so don't ever expect a main Halo game to get reviewed without fanboy goggles. The game felt like an original Xbox title for God sake!

Bigboi500

In the past year he's shot up to be one of my top five reviewers. He's one of the few critics out there that has the balls to do something about point inflation.

A sticky is needed about Tom McShea

finalstar2007

Heh,

Any Halo>Any COD

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

finalstar2007

This! give that garbage a 7.5 then we'll agree and have respect to this site

:P

Between his Lost Winds, Infamous 2, and Skyward Swrod reviews I'ts pretty hard to have any respect for him.

His Lost Winds review was the worst.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="Slashless"] Yeah, Halo is safe here, Halo Wars, Halo Anniversary, Oh wait.Slashless

EDIT: Damn I guess Gamespot auto-deletes parts of chain quotes. I highlighted where I said main Halo games...MAIN. Halo Wars clearly was not that.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

vashkey

Let's all admit that there is no way that SS should have been given a 10. In that case there are a lot of reviews out there that are much worse than Tom's, since they are willfully ignorant of the game's many flaws. Seriously like Tom ponted out in that pod cast a lot of those reviews have blatently false information that was regurgitated from Reggie's E3 speech.

[QUOTE="Slashless"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]Yeah, try reading ALL of my post next time...and H:CEA scored a very generous 8.0 here. :roll:

Bigboi500

why do DSW care so much about this guy?

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

Let's all admit that there is no way that SS should have been given a 10. In that case there are a lot of reviews out there that are much worse than Tom's, since they are willfully ignorant of the game's many flaws. Seriously like Tom ponted out in that pod cast a lot of those reviews have blatently false information that was regurgitated from Reggie's E3 speech.

GunSmith1_basic

so tom is the only reviewer that was right? since you know 90& of reviewers gave this game a 90 or above?

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

Maybe we'll all come to respect his opinion because I know how many of us wish someone had the balls to give GTA4 a 7.5 because most people can agree it was a step back for the franchise.

RandomWinner

i don't think "most people" agree with that at all, over 20 million in sales more or less proves that. also, forum dwellers are not really the best source to go by for that cute little generalization (which i'm positive said generalization spawned from)...

Tom McShea sucks

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

vashkey

I love the Halo series but lets be honest, critics and fanboys love to harp about a sequel not innovating or just outright not being better than its prequel,

But after playing Halo: Anniversary and then playing Halo 3, then playing Halo 3: ODST and then playing Halo: Reach I realized just how similar those games REALLY are.

-Walk into a narrow or open area shoot grunts and elites

-Walk into another narrow or open area and shoot more grunts and elites

-Drive a warthog

-The End

There really is no gameplay variety to speak of, Halo: Reach notwithstanding (fantastic game, single player and multiplayer) and I doubt Halo 4 is going to innovate on anything nor is it going to be better than Halo: Reach. Halo: Anniversary proved that 343 Industries are simply not Bungie, corridors all had a similar look, glitches that caused the game to freeze, awkward checkpoints. Bungie clearly knew what they were doing when they made Halo: Reach. And by Tom McShea's logic it will deserve a 7.5

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Let's all admit that there is no way that SS should have been given a 10. In that case there are a lot of reviews out there that are much worse than Tom's, since they are willfully ignorant of the game's many flaws. Seriously like Tom ponted out in that pod cast a lot of those reviews have blatently false information that was regurgitated from Reggie's E3 speech.

Mario1331

so tom is the only reviewer that was right? since you know 90& of reviewers gave this game a 90 or above?

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

Bigboi500

It was superb. The multiplayer alone and the thetare mode and customisable game types alone would get a 9.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] Why?navyguy21

[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]He's clearly a Halo fanboy for saying ODST was "superb" when it's not. :|

Bigboi500

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Let's all admit that there is no way that SS should have been given a 10. In that case there are a lot of reviews out there that are much worse than Tom's, since they are willfully ignorant of the game's many flaws. Seriously like Tom ponted out in that pod cast a lot of those reviews have blatently false information that was regurgitated from Reggie's E3 speech.

Mario1331

so tom is the only reviewer that was right? since you know 90& of reviewers gave this game a 90 or above?

Tom McShea sucks

[QUOTE="vashkey"][QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

I might respect his opinion if he gives Halo 4 a 7.5.

KevinPlanet

I love the Halo series but lets be honest, critics and fanboys love to harp about a sequel not innovating or just outright not being better than its prequel,

But after playing Halo: Anniversary and then playing Halo 3, then playing Halo 3: ODST and then playing Halo: Reach I realized just how similar those games REALLY are.

-Walk into a narrow or open area shoot grunts and elites

-Walk into another narrow or open area and shoot more grunts and elites

-Drive a warthog

-The End

There really is no gameplay variety to speak of, Halo: Reach notwithstanding (fantastic game, single player and multiplayer) and I doubt Halo 4 is going to innovate on anything nor is it going to be better than Halo: Reach. Halo: Anniversary proved that 343 Industries are simply not Bungie, corridors all had a similar look, glitches that caused the game to freeze, awkward checkpoints. Bungie clearly knew what they were doing when they made Halo: Reach

He scored SS lower than I would, but that doesn't bother. The content of his review does.

If I would have been foolish enough to trust his review then I would have missed out on what is shaping up to be one of my favorites of this gen all due to false information. An opinion is one thing. Making up issues to justify his dislike for the game is another.

I'm not one of these guys that makes credibility calls on entire sites, or magazines regarding reviews, but Tom is one GS reviewer that I will not soon trust. A bit of professionalism goes a long way and when there are multitudes of user reviews that are not only more accurate, but also more well written, it makes me wonder how this guy maintains his job.

[QUOTE="Mario1331"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"]

Let's all admit that there is no way that SS should have been given a 10. In that case there are a lot of reviews out there that are much worse than Tom's, since they are willfully ignorant of the game's many flaws. Seriously like Tom ponted out in that pod cast a lot of those reviews have blatently false information that was regurgitated from Reggie's E3 speech.

GunSmith1_basic

so tom is the only reviewer that was right? since you know 90& of reviewers gave this game a 90 or above?

In Gamespot the number seems to hold alot more importance, and I hate IGN even more for having the childish score which ranks graphics sound etc. It's so stupid. Are we number whores now? The only magazine I find to have good reviews is Edge to be honest.

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]

[QUOTE="vashkey"] Why?OB-47

It was superb. The multiplayer alone and the thetare mode and customisable game types alone would get a 9.