Is Mass Effect 2 the greatsest RPG of all time?

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[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] A better RPG than any other RPG released this year.

The_RedLion

Except that New Vegas came out this year and trashes ME2 in just about every single area significant to the genre.

I have yet to experience a crash, so I have to wonder about that first bit.

Don't know about horrible combat, it definitely isn't as fun as ME2's, but the writing is excellent so I'm not going to give you that one, and the plot, for my tastes, is much better and more interesting than ME2's, which was incredibly stupid on just about every level.

Two words, chap:

[spoiler] Human Reaper [/spoiler]

...and there go some more of my brain cells, flying away over the horizon like baby seagulls. Thanks, BioWare.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="jethrovegas"]

Except that New Vegas came out this year and trashes ME2 in just about every single area significant to the genre.

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] I doubt you actually played them. Also too much anime? They're JRPGs what do you expect (even though they offer a more interesting plot and characters compared to other JRPGs and animes. The Persona titles as well as other MegaTen titles offer more depth compared Pokemon games and contain far better game play.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] Not in being playable for more than 5 minutes without crashing. It also has horrible combat, bad writting and voice-acting and plot.The_RedLion

Ironic that the game in his sig has actual anime in it. Go figure.Ace6301

I have ten hours in the PS3 version and 15 in the PC version I haven't experienced a crash yet. Get back to me when you actually played the game.jasonharris48

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] You're saying my opinion is wrong because using your opinion as argument. See the problem?The_RedLion

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"] You're saying my opinion is wrong because using your opinion as argument. See the problem?The_RedLion

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Well see I actually played the games and I know what I'm talking about. Your just mindlessly bashing the games and often contradicting yourself (which I do find funny)

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[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="The_RedLion"] I have not contradicted myself. I said Persona games tried too hard to be Pokemon, not that they were the first doing it. Wolfenstein was a FPS pioneer, yet Wolfenstein (2009) tried too hard to be CoD. Unpopular games try to be popular games, regardless of who did what first.The_RedLion

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[QUOTE="110million"] Creating a genre and copying major gameplay elements from a unique game is so different your argument is pretty meaningless. Persona is an evolution of a NES game by the same developer, they have been improving upon themselves with every title, Pokemon has been the same since the original gameboy. Atlus has been evolving their franchises for two decades, Pokemon has been the same forever. jasonharris48

[QUOTE="The_RedLion"]

Creating a genre and copying major gameplay elements from a unique game is so different your argument is pretty meaningless. Persona is an evolution of a NES game by the same developer, they have been improving upon themselves with every title, Pokemon has been the same since the original gameboy. Atlus has been evolving their franchises for two decades, Pokemon has been the same forever. 110million

I wouldn't call it the greatest RPG. Since it really isn't much of an RPG. It is one of the best games of all time.

Its alright, I give up. They were doing it better back in 88' and its much better done today, Pokemon is all catching monsters, that is only one of the great elements in Persona, he clearly has not played it, its not really worth continuing. 110million

No, as much as I like ME2 I don't think it's the greatest rpg ever. I may be good but it's not ever man good. Not everyone likes it style and not every style it has should be standard for rpgs. Remember, there different types of rpg and ME2 does it's own style the best. It's the best ACTION rpg. And I would go so far as say that Mass effect is the greatest rpg series ever.

But as for greates rpg.....that Title goes to Bulder's Gate 2.

Hell no. It's not even an RPG.IceBlazerX

I don't get what makes an RPG, RPGish. The rules people lay out in threads like this are always so arbitrary and aligned to their own interests. Anyway, in my opinion Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games of all time, which would inherently make it one of the best RPGs; it being an RPG and all. If anything, it ranks up there with BioWare's other games, and none other for me. rolo107

[QUOTE="rolo107"]I don't get what makes an RPG, RPGish. The rules people lay out in threads like this are always so arbitrary and aligned to their own interests. Anyway, in my opinion Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games of all time, which would inherently make it one of the best RPGs; it being an RPG and all. If anything, it ranks up there with BioWare's other games, and none other for me. jasonharris48

:P

[QUOTE="IceBlazerX"]Hell no. It's not even an RPG.dreman999

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[QUOTE="rolo107"]I don't get what makes an RPG, RPGish. The rules people lay out in threads like this are always so arbitrary and aligned to their own interests. Anyway, in my opinion Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games of all time, which would inherently make it one of the best RPGs; it being an RPG and all. If anything, it ranks up there with BioWare's other games, and none other for me. dreman999

:P

I'm thinking more like this.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="IceBlazerX"]Hell no. It's not even an RPG.Ace6301

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="rolo107"]I don't get what makes an RPG, RPGish. The rules people lay out in threads like this are always so arbitrary and aligned to their own interests. Anyway, in my opinion Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games of all time, which would inherently make it one of the best RPGs; it being an RPG and all. If anything, it ranks up there with BioWare's other games, and none other for me. dreman999

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[QUOTE="rolo107"]I don't get what makes an RPG, RPGish. The rules people lay out in threads like this are always so arbitrary and aligned to their own interests. Anyway, in my opinion Mass Effect 2 is one of the best games of all time, which would inherently make it one of the best RPGs; it being an RPG and all. If anything, it ranks up there with BioWare's other games, and none other for me. dreman999

:P

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="IceBlazerX"]Hell no. It's not even an RPG.Ace6301

*Sigh......

Not this again.

Here it goes....I'm going to ask you what makes ME2 not an rpg. Your going to say something obscure to your taste of rpg's and that more rpg should be like that. I'll say something that will smash that idea, stating that all rpg are like that. You'll ask why, I make examples to further my point. You stop arguing because you have nothing more to argue with and walk away....Until another topic like this comes up. Then we start it all over again.

All in all, you would think that rpg of the year award from many sites would be given to an rpg. So I think I'm not the only one to think ME2 is a rpg.....But you"ll probably ignore all of my statement just to stress on my later statement about other sites giving ME2 rpg of the year. Much safer that way.:D

[QUOTE="Ace6301"][QUOTE="dreman999"] Like you know what a good rpg is.shakmaster13

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] What makes a game a RPG? Character & stat progression which Mass Effect 2 lacked.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] One need not even have taste to know that ME2 is not an RPG.jasonharris48

And a clunky one at that. Why is this game so loved? Seriously?

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] What makes a game a RPG? Character & stat progression which Mass Effect 2 lacked.

:P

[QUOTE="dreman999"]

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"] What makes a game a RPG? Character & stat progression which Mass Effect 2 lacked.

:P

I'm thinking more like this.

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"] You play the role of shepard and you can customize gear/stats. You also have some interesting dialogue choices. What makes this game NOT and RPG? The fact that it has better combat and other gameplay mechanics than 99% of RPG's out there?Master_ShakeXXX

And a clunky one at that. Why is this game so loved? Seriously?

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="dreman999"]You mean this.......

:P

dreman999

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"][QUOTE="Ace6301"] One need not even have taste to know that ME2 is not an RPG.jasonharris48

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"] You play the role of shepard and you can customize gear/stats. You also have some interesting dialogue choices. What makes this game NOT and RPG? The fact that it has better combat and other gameplay mechanics than 99% of RPG's out there?dreman999

No becuase 1. Chrono Trigger exists and 2. ME2 isnt a RPG its a crappy TPS

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"] You play the role of shepard and you can customize gear/stats. You also have some interesting dialogue choices. What makes this game NOT and RPG? The fact that it has better combat and other gameplay mechanics than 99% of RPG's out there?Master_ShakeXXX

And a clunky one at that. Why is this game so loved? Seriously?

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"] You play the role of shepard and you can customize gear/stats. You also have some interesting dialogue choices. What makes this game NOT and RPG? The fact that it has better combat and other gameplay mechanics than 99% of RPG's out there?dreman999

[QUOTE="jasonharris48"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"] You play the role of shepard and you can customize gear/stats. You also have some interesting dialogue choices. What makes this game NOT and RPG? The fact that it has better combat and other gameplay mechanics than 99% of RPG's out there?Master_ShakeXXX

And a clunky one at that. Why is this game so loved? Seriously?

But they do the same thing.dreman999

People can play planescape then turn around and say ME2 is the best RPG of all time? It distrubs me.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] Oh you mean that very shallow stat progression system?

jasonharris48

Here's the bioware forum dedicated for it for ME2.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/category/261/index

ME1 had far less flexibility for build due to the gameplay system being broken.

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] The dialogue does not make it a RPG. The character & stat progression is rather weak especially compared to other RPGs. As for the game paly what makes it so special? It just plays out like a TPS.GeneralShowzer

[QUOTE="dreman999"][QUOTE="jasonharris48"] The dialogue does not make it a RPG. The character & stat progression is rather weak especially compared to other RPGs. As for the game paly what makes it so special? It just plays out like a TPS.

jasonharris48

Personally I dont see what he means and I've done almost everything you can do in both games(achievement wise, though big whoop)

[QUOTE="dreman999"] But they do the same thing.110million

People can play planescape then turn around and say ME2 is the best RPG of all time? It distrubs me.

.......D and D's Prist class destroies your flawed theory.

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[QUOTE="dreman999"] Shallow or not. It has one. Plus, why stress so much on a screen you spend so little of compared to the rest of the game.dreman999

Here's the bioware forum dedicated for it for ME2.

http://social.bioware.com/forum/1/category/261/index

ME1 had far less flexibility for build due to the gameplay system being broken.