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#51 nyctota
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]and thats not the point of this thread the point is pc/xbox360 = not exclusiveIronBass

You said:

"trying to claim ownage on cows by saying you cant play it on ps3.... i have a ps3/pc, this but but you cant play it on ps3 wont work on me"

See the point of my argument?

and ignore the other points...well done

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#52 delta3074
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[QUOTE="deadesa"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

or combine games to make xbox360 list look better

nyctota

Really stop the damage control, the PS3 doesn't need your lackluster propaganda! Seriously each console has its advantages. How about you just enjoy the variety ??

maybe you should

now you are just being immature about this, the 360 has more games than the ps3 without adding PC/360 games as well, it has more exclusives and it also has a few games that came out before the ps3 arrived on the scene (call of duty 2 for example) basically you need 2 systems to play what i can play on 1 system, how can we be using 2 systems libraries against 1 when all of the titles we talk about are available on 1 system (xbox 360), it's cows that are constantly saying 'but i can play it on my PC' therefore it is cows who are using 2 systems to combat 1, not the other way around, somebody had a valid point the other day, if cows insist on saying 'but i can play it on PC' then we should factor in the cost of a gaming rig, when determining how much it costs to game on a ps3 , bottom line, it cost's cow's way more to play the games we play on the xbox 360
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#53 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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and ignore the other points...well donenyctota
In the moment you wrote that line you made it part of the thread's topic.
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#54 nyctota
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="deadesa"]Really stop the damage control, the PS3 doesn't need your lackluster propaganda! Seriously each console has its advantages. How about you just enjoy the variety ??delta3074

maybe you should

now you are just being immature about this, the 360 has more games than the ps3 without adding PC/360 games as well, it has more exclusives and it also has a few games that came out before the ps3 arrived on the scene (call of duty 2 for example) basically you need 2 systems to play what i can play on 1 system, how can we be using 2 systems libraries against 1 when all of the titles we talk about are available on 1 system (xbox 360), it's cows that are constantly saying 'but i can play it on my PC' therefore it is cows who are using 2 systems to combat 1, not the other way around, somebody had a valid point the other day, if cows insist on saying 'but i can play it on PC' then we should factor in the cost of a gaming rig, when determining how much it costs to game on a ps3 , bottom line, it cost's cow's way more to play the games we play on the xbox 360

since when can you play heavy rain, god of war, uncharted, ratchet on your xbox360 ?

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#55 delta3074
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[QUOTE="IronBass"]

[QUOTE="nyctota"]and thats not the point of this thread the point is pc/xbox360 = not exclusivenyctota

You said:

"trying to claim ownage on cows by saying you cant play it on ps3.... i have a ps3/pc, this but but you cant play it on ps3 wont work on me"

See the point of my argument?

and ignore the other points...well done

what iron bass is saying is correct, just cos you own a PC, doesn't change the fact that you can't play the game on a PS3, if a game cannot be played on a PS3, how is someone wrong when they say it can't be played on a ps3.
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#56 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

maybe you should

nyctota

now you are just being immature about this, the 360 has more games than the ps3 without adding PC/360 games as well, it has more exclusives and it also has a few games that came out before the ps3 arrived on the scene (call of duty 2 for example) basically you need 2 systems to play what i can play on 1 system, how can we be using 2 systems libraries against 1 when all of the titles we talk about are available on 1 system (xbox 360), it's cows that are constantly saying 'but i can play it on my PC' therefore it is cows who are using 2 systems to combat 1, not the other way around, somebody had a valid point the other day, if cows insist on saying 'but i can play it on PC' then we should factor in the cost of a gaming rig, when determining how much it costs to game on a ps3 , bottom line, it cost's cow's way more to play the games we play on the xbox 360

since when can you play heavy rain, god of war, uncharted, ratchet on your xbox360 ?

since when can you play mass effect,left4dead,gears of war or all the other amazing PC/360 titles without a gaming PC?
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#57 deadesa
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since when can you play heavy rain, god of war, uncharted, ratchet on your xbox360 ?

nyctota

Uhm, you can't?

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#58 nyctota
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="delta3074"]now you are just being immature about this, the 360 has more games than the ps3 without adding PC/360 games as well, it has more exclusives and it also has a few games that came out before the ps3 arrived on the scene (call of duty 2 for example) basically you need 2 systems to play what i can play on 1 system, how can we be using 2 systems libraries against 1 when all of the titles we talk about are available on 1 system (xbox 360), it's cows that are constantly saying 'but i can play it on my PC' therefore it is cows who are using 2 systems to combat 1, not the other way around, somebody had a valid point the other day, if cows insist on saying 'but i can play it on PC' then we should factor in the cost of a gaming rig, when determining how much it costs to game on a ps3 , bottom line, it cost's cow's way more to play the games we play on the xbox 360delta3074

since when can you play heavy rain, god of war, uncharted, ratchet on your xbox360 ?

since when can you play mass effect,left4dead,gears of war or all the other amazing PC/360 titles without a gaming PC?

since when do you even need a xbox360

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#59 deactivated-63f6895020e66
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since when do you even need a xbox360nyctota

Again with the word "need".

Gaming is a hobby. Nothing is "needed", but "wanted" or "prefered".

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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

since when can you play heavy rain, god of war, uncharted, ratchet on your xbox360 ?

nyctota

since when can you play mass effect,left4dead,gears of war or all the other amazing PC/360 titles without a gaming PC?

since when do you even need a xbox360

you can't you have options between PC and 360. but you can play Halo 3, Forza 2, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts etc on Xbox 360.
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#62 Irick_cb
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you can't you have options between PC and 360. but you can play Halo 3, Forza 2, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts etc on Xbox 360.jg4xchamp

Tolerate, have no interest in over GT5, love for how kick ass it is, was disappointed, cried.

Rated by appearance.

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#63 nyctota
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]since when do you even need a xbox360

deadesa

Well no one needs any sort of gaming platform whatsoever.... However whether you want a 360 or not, would be based on a number of factors... do you have a gaming PC? If so do you prefer playing in front of your PC or your TV? How much do you like HALO/Gears of War/Forza etc. How many friends do you have that also have a 360? Do you want to be able to play/have access to all the great games on XBLA (many are multiplat as well, but there are alot of great exclusives there too... and the ones that are multiplat don't come with leaderboards etc. in most cases)

There are plenty of reasons to own a 360..... not so many reasons to own a PS3 currently.

PS. b4 you start listing games coming over the next 2-3 years or games that havent even been announced yet.... please re-read and notice that I explicitly said "CURRENTLY"

whatisazerg

you can hook up your pc on your tv...

and pc has free online, mods, better graphics, more games....

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#64 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]you can't you have options between PC and 360. but you can play Halo 3, Forza 2, Gears of War 2, Fable 2, Banjo Kazooie Nuts and Bolts etc on Xbox 360.Irick_cb

Tolerate, have no interest in over GT5, love for how kick ass it is, was disappointed, cried.

Rated by appearance.

thats cool but we can all play that game for instance God of War = GOD damn is Kratos a horrible character Ratchet and Clank= REHASH CITY GT 5= I like PGR and FOrza more MAG= Just doesn't seem interesting just saying, personal ratings aren't the issue of this thread, its a matter of what is exclusive and what isn't.
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#65 Irick_cb
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personal ratings aren't the issue of this thread, its a matter of what is exclusive and what isn't. jg4xchamp

Then if it is on two systems it is not exclusive.

Can we agree on that?

:P

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#66 jg4xchamp
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[QUOTE="jg4xchamp"]personal ratings aren't the issue of this thread, its a matter of what is exclusive and what isn't. Irick_cb

Then if it is on two systems it is not exclusive.

Can we agree on that?

:P

yeah i did agree with that. Mass Effect, Gears of War 1, etc are not exclusive and yes for future reference neither are Alan Wake and SplinterCell Conviction...but good god do I want to play them :)
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#67 deadesa
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you can hook up your pc on your tv...

and pc has free online, mods, better graphics, more games....

nyctota

you didn't get the point of his post. He said each console has its advantages and based on personnel preference one may appeal more to different individuals. You are so defensive you completely misinterpreted his words

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#68 delta3074
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[QUOTE="delta3074"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

since when can you play heavy rain, god of war, uncharted, ratchet on your xbox360 ?

nyctota

since when can you play mass effect,left4dead,gears of war or all the other amazing PC/360 titles without a gaming PC?

since when do you even need a xbox360

because i can't play Halo 3,fable 2,GRAW,PDZ,forza 2,kameo,gears of war 2 on the PC,maybe, look dude , when you decide to counter another thread, at least think about it first, 360/PC game's might be multiplat,but it doesn't change the fact that you can't play them on PS3
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#69 Mckenna1845
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oh i get it, this is because of that other thread right?

Anyway, I think in essence, the general jist of that other thread was that the 360/PC games are an addition to the 360 game library when compared to the PS3. So in any discussion of 360 game library Vs that of the PS3, such games are relevant. I agree there is no such thing as console exclusive, but when can compare respective game libraries right?

DAZZER7
this, the games aren't on ps3 so they very much are an addition to the 360 library. they're not exclusive, but when you make a great games list you don't have to have all exclusives. not to mention the amount of times people use multiplats when going up against the wii.
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#70 Jacumov
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There is no such thing as 'MS Exclusive'...if I can play Gears or Mass Effect ON MY SONY VAIOsystem, then its not a MS exclusive

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#71 Cookigaki
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Cookigaki will nevet understand why fanboys do this. It's only exclusive if you can only play it on one platform.
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#72 gdp72
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All fanboy logic is flawed. /thread!

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#73 Ze_ALEX
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You need two platforms to combat one. Nice job.

AAllxxjjnn
another excellent post by AALLxxjjnn i lol'd
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#74 ProChamp
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we REALLY need to come to a decisive conclusion to this issue. I'm kind of tired of seeing these threads everyday. Can't we just count any current PC/360

games as exclusive to 360 and any future PC/ps3 games as PS3 exclusive? Would definitely put an end to this argument for at least a little while.

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#75 -TheDragon-
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we REALLY need to come to a decisive conclusion to this issue. I'm kind of tired of seeing these threads everyday. Can't we just count any current PC/360

games as exclusive to 360 and any future PC/ps3 games as PS3 exclusive? Would definitely put an end to this argument for at least a little while.

ProChamp
The problem with that is that is that we are excluding the PC when this is system wars and not console wars. if a game is playable on more then one system, why is it an exclusive?
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#76 The_Brodeo
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Fanboys have no capacity for logic so in essence this thread is flawed from the start.

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#77 The_Brodeo
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[QUOTE="ProChamp"]

we REALLY need to come to a decisive conclusion to this issue. I'm kind of tired of seeing these threads everyday. Can't we just count any current PC/360

games as exclusive to 360 and any future PC/ps3 games as PS3 exclusive? Would definitely put an end to this argument for at least a little while.

-TheDragon-

The problem with that is that is that we are excluding the PC when this is system wars and not console wars. if a game is playable on more then one system, why is it an exclusive?

Why would PC owners want to be compared to a console? Console users cannot upgrade hardware and have shown that they probably do not want to otherwise they would be PC gamers. The elitist attitude of PC gamers instantly is negated by their wanting of acceptance from console users. I am sure there are real PC gamers on a PC gaming website it just seems we are stuck with the bottom of the barrel PC gamers here in System Wars.

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#78 SecretPolice
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not this crap again daveg1
That's SW in general for a long time now. :cry:

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#79 STRETCH-E
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If only the 360 actually had exclusives this debate wouldn't be going on.

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#80 ujjval16
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After reading all of the TC's posts, my IQ has gone done by 10.

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In my own personal unchanging logic (lol), I don't count PC as a console, I see PC more for typing, surfing, and programming. :P
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#82 Richymisiak
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In my own personal unchanging logic (lol), I don't count PC as a console, I see PC more for typing, surfing, and programming. :Pdouble_heist

and pr0n, playing the best looking games, and t3h Hax :P

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#83 Bazooka_4ME
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There is no such thing as 'MS Exclusive'...if I can play Gears or Mass Effect ON MY SONY VAIOsystem, then its not a MS exclusive

Jacumov
That's true man! This is SYSTEM wars not SOFTWARE wars! ;)
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[QUOTE="Toriko42"][QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"]

You need two platforms to combat one. Nice job.

nyctota

Served :lol: This summed up what I was gonna say

or lemmings need two to combat 1

Really? Cause my 360 can play all the games that I care about (sony exclusives have never really interested me) where as you would at least have to own both a PS3 and a PC to play all the games we 360 owners can play on one console. :| hmmmm....sure seems as if you're the ones that would REQUIRE two consoles and not us. :lol:
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#85 ProChamp
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[QUOTE="ProChamp"]

we REALLY need to come to a decisive conclusion to this issue. I'm kind of tired of seeing these threads everyday. Can't we just count any current PC/360

games as exclusive to 360 and any future PC/ps3 games as PS3 exclusive? Would definitely put an end to this argument for at least a little while.

-TheDragon-

The problem with that is that is that we are excluding the PC when this is system wars and not console wars. if a game is playable on more then one system, why is it an exclusive?

Oh, now I see how this whole thing started. Well, the only thing I can think of that could at least try to resolve it would be to come up with a new term

that would be used specifically to define console games with PC counterparts. Like "Multi-Platform exclusive" or something.(I know the name is an oxymoron).

At least then there could SOME kind of way to end the argument.

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[QUOTE="double_heist"]In my own personal unchanging logic (lol), I don't count PC as a console, I see PC more for typing, surfing, and programming. :PRichymisiak

and making pr0n, playing the best looking games, and t3h Hax :P

Well maybe those for your part. :D PC is confusing gaming consoles >_>
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#87 ProChamp
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[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="Toriko42"] Served :lol: This summed up what I was gonna sayNedemis

or lemmings need two to combat 1

Really? Cause my 360 can play all the games that I care about (Sony exclusives have never really interested me) where as you would at least have to own both a PS3 and a PC to play all the games we 360 owners can play on one console. :| hmmmm....sure seems as if you're the ones that would REQUIRE two consoles and not us. :lol:

Well, the thing with that is, with a PS3/PC combo, you would get all the PS3 exclusives available as well as a majority of the 360's games via PC. But if you had

a 360/PC combo you'd only really get(as far as variety in choice of games) would be the PC exclusives.

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#88 shaneras
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pc games to their poor game library

nyctota

Hmm, The Witcher, better Mass Effect, Planescape: Torment, NWN, Baldurs Gate I & II, Morrowind and Oblivion with mods, Sims 3, Civilization, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Pirates!, Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Total War Series, Starcraft, Half Life, and Icewind Dale.

You have what Halo or something right?? I guess thats cool too...

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[QUOTE="nyctota"]

pc games to their poor game library

shaneras

Hmm, The Witcher, better Mass Effect, Planescape: Torment, NWN, Baldurs Gate I & II, Morrowind and Oblivion with mods, Sims 3, Civilization, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Pirates!, Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Total War Series, Starcraft, and Icewind Dale.

You have what Halo or something right?? I guess thats cool too...

Starcraft was better on the N64.

*hides*

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I always find it funny when PS3 fans hide behind the PC to attack the 360. So end result is they need to use the 2 most expensive systems to combat the least expensive one.
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#91 shaneras
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[QUOTE="shaneras"]

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

pc games to their poor game library

Irick_cb

Hmm, The Witcher, better Mass Effect, Planescape: Torment, NWN, Baldurs Gate I & II, Morrowind and Oblivion with mods, Sims 3, Civilization, S.T.A.L.K.E.R., Pirates!, Sins of a Solar Empire, Crysis, Total War Series, Starcraft, and Icewind Dale.

You have what Halo or something right?? I guess thats cool too...

Starcraft was better on the N64.

*hides*

Fine by me, I'm not an RTS guy.
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#92 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="Richymisiak"]

[QUOTE="double_heist"]In my own personal unchanging logic (lol), I don't count PC as a console, I see PC more for typing, surfing, and programming. :Pdouble_heist

and making pr0n, playing the best looking games, and t3h Hax :P

Well maybe those for your part. :D PC is confusing gaming consoles >_>

rofl i meant watching haha, i originally wrote making consoel games and changed it
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#93 -TheDragon-
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Why would PC owners want to be compared to a console? Console users cannot upgrade hardware and have shown that they probably do not want to otherwise they would be PC gamers. The elitist attitude of PC gamers instantly is negated by their wanting of acceptance from console users. I am sure there are real PC gamers on a PC gaming website it just seems we are stuck with the bottom of the barrel PC gamers here in System Wars.

The_Brodeo
I'm not comparing PC gamers to console games. I'm not comparing the attitudes of each type of gamers, sure some PC gamers have an elitist attitude but doesn't a few console gamers as well? I'm not talking about upgrading either, I'm just speaking about gaming, if you don't need one specific system to play a certain game, it is not exclusive game. If you can play it on more then one system then it is not exclusive.
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#94 ProChamp
Member since 2007 • 196 Posts

After mulling over my last post I began to think of a PC/PS3 combo, somewhat the same as a PS360 combo, only there are more games to be had on PC than

the 360. And to the guy above me who was talking about using the 2 most expensive against the least expensive. The way I see it, you're not really

comparing the PS3 AND the PC against the 360 moreso than you are comparing the PC to the 360, since they share some of the same games.

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#95 LosDaddie
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Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debates. We just need to start adding in the cost of a gaming PC to the PS3's costs.

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#96 STRETCH-E
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I always find it funny when PS3 fans hide behind the PC to attack the 360. So end result is they need to use the 2 most expensive systems to combat the least expensive one.rybe1025

I always find it funny when 360 fans have to use PC/360 multiplats as exclusives because they have none of their own.

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#97 franky_babylon
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How come every time some people are comparing 360 VS PS3, PS3 fanboys go running to get their big brother the PC crying to him saying "Show him you can do the same thing he can do, only better"

If you are comparing 360 game line-up to PS3 line-up, it shouldnt matter if it can be played on PC, as long as it cant be played on PS3. Maybe thats to rational for SW though.

Anyway remember when Phil Harrison said at E3 05 or 06 "The PS3 is a computer, so there is no need for a PC anymore":lol: Obviously there is.

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#98 rybe1025
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[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I always find it funny when PS3 fans hide behind the PC to attack the 360. So end result is they need to use the 2 most expensive systems to combat the least expensive one.STRETCH-E

I always find it funny when 360 fans have to use PC/360 multiplats as exclusives because they have none of their own.

I am happy the 360 has the better game library. The 360 has 31 more AA games and 44 more A games. As always the 360 has the bigger,more diverse, and better game library.
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#99 Animal-Mother
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I always find it funny when PS3 fans hide behind the PC to attack the 360. So end result is they need to use the 2 most expensive systems to combat the least expensive one.rybe1025
I find it funny that 360 fans hide behind the PC to claim they have better games and start making up terms like "company exclusive" Or "Console exclusive" When in reality they claim these games are exclusive but really arn't
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#100 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I always find it funny when PS3 fans hide behind the PC to attack the 360. So end result is they need to use the 2 most expensive systems to combat the least expensive one.rybe1025

I always find it funny when 360 fans have to use PC/360 multiplats as exclusives because they have none of their own.

I am happy the 360 has the better game library. The 360 has 31 more AA games and 44 more A games. As always the 360 has the bigger,more diverse, and better game library.

Better is subjective my friend. We all have different taste and styles.Any true gamer knows htat numbers and letters are just tools to grasp for straws because gamers will play what they want to play.