lemming logic is flawed...

Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debatesLosDaddie

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

There is no such thing as 'MS Exclusive'...if I can play Gears or Mass Effect ON MY SONY VAIOsystem, then its not a MS exclusive

Jacumov

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I always find it funny when PS3 fans hide behind the PC to attack the 360. So end result is they need to use the 2 most expensive systems to combat the least expensive one.rybe1025

I always find it funny when 360 fans have to use PC/360 multiplats as exclusives because they have none of their own.

Yet you don't need a 360 to play most of those huh.

[QUOTE="Jacumov"]

There is no such thing as 'MS Exclusive'...if I can play Gears or Mass Effect ON MY SONY VAIOsystem, then its not a MS exclusive

The_Game21x

I can still play Gears Of War under Crossover Games on OS X or Linux....

If i'm lucky.

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debatesSTRETCH-E

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

Yes, that's exactly what Sony fanboys are doing. When Xbox 360 owners list PC/360 games in comparison lists, even if they aren't saying those games are exclusive to the 360, someone inevitably says "Those don't count because I can play the superior version on the PC."

As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

I always find it funny when 360 fans have to use PC/360 multiplats as exclusives because they have none of their own.

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

I always find it funny when 360 fans have to use PC/360 multiplats as exclusives because they have none of their own.

STRETCH-E

Yet you don't need a 360 to play most of those huh.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debates

The_Game21x

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

Yes, that's exactly what Sony fanboys are doing. When Xbox 360 owners list PC/360 games in comparison lists, even if they aren't saying those games are exclusive to the 360, someone inevitably says "Those don't count because I can play the superior version on the PC."

As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

Agreed and well said. :)

Doesn't matter one bit if games can be played on PC, if they aren't playable on PS3.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debatesThe_Game21x

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

Yes, that's exactly what Sony fanboys are doing. When Xbox 360 owners list PC/360 games in comparison lists, even if they aren't saying those games are exclusive to the 360, someone inevitably says "Those don't count because I can play the superior version on the PC."

As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

Yeah they don't count because they're probably listed in a thread called "360 exclusives HERP DERP".

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I am happy the 360 has the better game library. The 360 has 31 more AA games and 44 more A games. As always the 360 has the bigger,more diverse, and better game library.rybe1025

Yet you don't need a 360 to play most of those huh.

Why do you talk like having a PS3 and a PC doesn't equal to a much greater library than a 360 alone?

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]I am happy the 360 has the better game library. The 360 has 31 more AA games and 44 more A games. As always the 360 has the bigger,more diverse, and better game library.rybe1025

Yet you don't need a 360 to play most of those huh.

Yup, it's like I said last week; I'm fine with PC/X360 games not being counted in X360 vs PS3 debates. That's cool with me. We just need to start adding in the cost of a gaming PC to the PS3's cost. :)

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]I am happy the 360 has the better game library. The 360 has 31 more AA games and 44 more A games. As always the 360 has the bigger,more diverse, and better game library.rybe1025

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

STRETCH-E

Yes, that's exactly what Sony fanboys are doing. When Xbox 360 owners list PC/360 games in comparison lists, even if they aren't saying those games are exclusive to the 360, someone inevitably says "Those don't count because I can play the superior version on the PC."

As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

Yeah they don't count because they're probably listed in a thread called "360 exclusives HERP DERP".

On occasion, someone will say the 360/PC games are exclusive to the 360 or "console exclusive" (a term that exists practically everywhere but here...imagine that) but in many cases, they're just listing them as games for the 360 that can't be played on the PS3, which they are, even if they aren't exclusive. :|

Yeah they don't count because they're probably listed in a thread called "360 exclusives HERP DERP".STRETCH-E

to be honest all fanboy logic is flawed xD.Including lems.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]I am happy the 360 has the better game library. The 360 has 31 more AA games and 44 more A games. As always the 360 has the bigger,more diverse, and better game library.rybe1025

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]Yeah they don't count because they're probably listed in a thread called "360 exclusives HERP DERP".IronBass

So if someone were to create a thread called "PS3 is dead nothing to play" and cows started posting "NUH HUH we have RE5 and SFIV and GTAIV" lemmings wouldn't go "lol multiplats"?

Give me a break. That's what they were doing in 2007.
But now that the 360 has less and less exclusives, all of a sudden it's "PC/360 multiplats count as exclusives" and "the best games are always multiplat anyways".

PC must be a helluva system since I see so much hiding behind it from all sides :|

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]Yeah they don't count because they're probably listed in a thread called "360 exclusives HERP DERP".STRETCH-E

So if someone were to create a thread called "PS3 is dead nothing to play" and cows started posting "NUH HUH we have RE5 and SFIV and GTAIV" lemmings wouldn't go "lol multiplats"?

Give me a break.

No worse than Xbox fans saying "NUH UH we have Alan Wake, Splinter Cell Conviction and Mass Effect 2!" and Sony fans responding with "lol multiplats", which actually happens around here a hell of a lot more than the scenario you presented.

Please, stop acting like Sony fans are the victims here...

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]Yeah they don't count because they're probably listed in a thread called "360 exclusives HERP DERP".STRETCH-E

So if someone were to create a thread called "PS3 is dead nothing to play" and cows started posting "NUH HUH we have RE5 and SFIV and GTAIV" lemmings wouldn't go "lol multiplats"?

Give me a break.

No they would, except you know, those multiplatscan be played on both consoles as opposed to1 console and a PC. If its a multiplat the other faction can't play, its fair game as far as I'm concerned. Its especially funny because you do the exact same thing to wii owners yet your double standard seems to be fine here lol.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Better is subjective my friend. We all have different taste and styles.Any true gamer knows htat numbers and letters are just tools to grasp for straws because gamers will play what they want to play.Animal-Mother

We are on the GS website so we use their scores for the baseline where the 360 wins. If you do not want to go by scores but sales it is clear the the 360 fans by more games.

PC must be a helluva system since I see so much hiding behind it from all sides :|

ActicEdge

As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

The_Game21x

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Well we go by Gamespot's scores on here. How you feel about the games does not matter. So like I said the 360 has the better game library, more diverse, and larger.

rybe1025

We are on the GS website so we use their scores for the baseline where the 360 wins. If you do not want to go by scores but sales it is clear the the 360 fans by more games.

That's what they were doing in 2007.STRETCH-E

Just because a faction makes senseless arguments itdoes not mean the other faction's are reasonable.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

PC must be a helluva system since I see so much hiding behind it from all sides :|

Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet you don't need a 360 to play most of those huh.

STRETCH-E

Why do you talk like having a PS3 and a PC doesn't equal to a much greater library than a 360 alone?

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

-TheDragon-

And in threads that are solely about exclusivity, I wouldn't count those games.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

Yet you don't need a 360 to play most of those huh.

LosDaddie

Yup, it's like I said last week; I'm fine with PC/X360 games not being counted in X360 vs PS3 debates. That's cool with me. We just need to start adding in the cost of a gaming PC to the PS3's cost. :)

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debatesSTRETCH-E

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

So I guess the PS3 fanboys don't do this either, right? I recall countless threads on "MLB 09 the show" being called an exclusives because it's a "Sony" game. Where were you when all this happened? Right now you're generalizing a group pf people, when the fact of the matter is, all factions do these things here on SW.

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"] That's what they were doing in 2007.IronBass

How wold he even know about 2007. He is only a recent a member ;)

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="LosDaddie"]

Like I said last week; I'm fine with games like MEffect, L4D, SC Conviction, etc not being counted in the X360's library in X360 vs PS3 debatesxsubtownerx

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

So I guess the PS3 fanboys don't do this either, right? I recall countless threads on "MLB 09 the show" being called an exclusives because it's a "Sony" game. Where were you when all this happened? Right now you're generalizing a group pf people, when the fact of the matter is, all factions do these things here on SW.

Great so we agree lemmings and cows use the same arguments to make their libraries look better.
Now why is it that we deem the lemmings' arguments acceptable but not the cows'?

[QUOTE="rybe1025"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] How I feel about the games does matter. You guys pull out scores for "ownage" purposes. But honestly I could care less. Fanboys argue about what systems have higher scoring games and such. Gamers Play regardless of score or letter or what not. Like I said better is subjective. You may think Army of two that has a 6.5 is horrendous but I love the game to death. Or heck even Lair or too human prime examples. Alot of people enjoy them. Fanboys will make fun but gamers will play the games they want to play.Animal-Mother

We are on the GS website so we use their scores for the baseline where the 360 wins. If you do not want to go by scores but sales it is clear the the 360 fans by more games.

This thread is none sense by the way. If a thread is comparing every system then 360/PC multiplats are useless since PC is in the running as well. If a thread is comparing 360 vs PS3, why do 360/PC multiplats not add to the library? In a strict comparison of 2 consoles, a game that can only be payed on one is a benefit no matter how you spin it. PS3 fans cannot simply ignore that because they are not only on 360, the point is you cannot play them on the PS3 and the 360 is only console that can for the sake of the comparison. They don't need to be counted as exclusives but they sure as hell should not be ignored.

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

STRETCH-E

So I guess the PS3 fanboys don't do this either, right? I recall countless threads on "MLB 09 the show" being called an exclusives because it's a "Sony" game. Where were you when all this happened? Right now you're generalizing a group pf people, when the fact of the matter is, all factions do these things here on SW.

Great so we agree lemmings and cows use the same arguments to make their libraries look better.
Now why is it that we deem the lemmings' arguments acceptable but not the cows'?

[QUOTE="-TheDragon-"]

[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]As far as I'm concerned, those are games that can be played on the 360 and cannot be played on the PS3 and they should count as any other game should. Exclusive to the 360 or not.

The_Game21x

And in threads that are solely about exclusivity, I wouldn't count those games.

This thread is none sense by the way. If a thread is comparing every system then 360/PC multiplats are useless since PC is in the running as well. If a thread is comparing 360 vs PS3, why do 360/PC multiplats not add to the library? In a strict comparison of 2 consoles, a game that can only be payed on one is a benefit no matter how you spin it. PS3 fans cannot simply ignore that because they are not only on 360, the point is you cannot play them on the PS3 and the 360 is only console that can for the sake of the comparison. They don't need to be counted as exclusives but they sure as hell should not be ignored.

ActicEdge

exactly, finally people with some sense here!!

[QUOTE="xsubtownerx"]

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

But no one is doing that.
It's just that lemmings like to use the word exclusive a lot when it obviously doesn't apply.

And exclusives have always mattered more than multiplats in SW. It's not the cows' fault, everyone gives more value to exclusives here.

STRETCH-E

So I guess the PS3 fanboys don't do this either, right? I recall countless threads on "MLB 09 the show" being called an exclusives because it's a "Sony" game. Where were you when all this happened? Right now you're generalizing a group pf people, when the fact of the matter is, all factions do these things here on SW.

Great so we agree lemmings and cows use the same arguments to make their libraries look better.
Now why is it that we deem the lemmings' arguments acceptable but not the cows'?

No one has said this except fanboys who you seem to be targeting because no one here is agruing against that. It seems mre like you don't want to listen to the people you are arguing against more so then there actually being a problem. Have any lemmings ever gotten a 360/PC game to count as an exclusive ever? Thought so.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

This thread is none sense by the way. If a thread is comparing every system then 360/PC multiplats are useless since PC is in the running as well. If a thread is comparing 360 vs PS3, why do 360/PC multiplats not add to the library? In a strict comparison of 2 consoles, a game that can only be payed on one is a benefit no matter how you spin it. PS3 fans cannot simply ignore that because they are not only on 360, the point is you cannot play them on the PS3 and the 360 is only console that can for the sake of the comparison. They don't need to be counted as exclusives but they sure as hell should not be ignored.

AvalonSaber

exactly, finally people with some sense here!!

Ok so enjoy needing to have the 2 most expensive systems to go against the least expensive one.rybe1025

Yup, it's like I said last week; I'm fine with PC/X360 games not being counted in X360 vs PS3 debates. That's cool with me. We just need to start adding in the cost of a gaming PC to the PS3's cost. :)

Lemming logic is flawed, cow logic is flawed when they use Sony exclusives(PS3, PS2, PSP), works both ways.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="rybe1025"]Ok so what do you want to go by since the 360 has better scores, better software sales, better hardware sales, better game attach rate, more million+ sellers and so on. So the 360 games have scored better and sell better so more fans want to play the 360 games.

We are on the GS website so we use their scores for the baseline where the 360 wins. If you do not want to go by scores but sales it is clear the the 360 fans by more games.

rybe1025

Lemming logic is flawed, cow logic is flawed when they use Sony exclusives(PS3, PS2, PSP), works both ways.

mitu123

I'm more appalled by the fact that some people here are acting like any faction has ever gotten away using that argument. They haven't and never will.

[QUOTE="AvalonSaber"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

This thread is none sense by the way. If a thread is comparing every system then 360/PC multiplats are useless since PC is in the running as well. If a thread is comparing 360 vs PS3, why do 360/PC multiplats not add to the library? In a strict comparison of 2 consoles, a game that can only be payed on one is a benefit no matter how you spin it. PS3 fans cannot simply ignore that because they are not only on 360, the point is you cannot play them on the PS3 and the 360 is only console that can for the sake of the comparison. They don't need to be counted as exclusives but they sure as hell should not be ignored.

Richymisiak

exactly, finally people with some sense here!!

Ya seriously, people that claim that mass effect, l4d etc are exclusive to the xbox360 are stupid BUT just because it is on the PC it doesnt suddenly detract from the overall xbox360 library.

btw fairly new to gamespot and loving system wars, full of lulz :D

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Lemming logic is flawed, cow logic is flawed when they use Sony exclusives(PS3, PS2, PSP), works both ways.

ActicEdge

I'm more appalled by the fact that some people here are acting like any faction has ever gotten away using that argument. They haven't and never will.

360/PCgames mean 360/PChave advantage over PS3, PS3/PC games mean PS3/PC had advantage over 360, 360/PS3 games mean 360/PS3 have advantage over PC. so they can be used as ownage. not every cow has ps3 and a high end pc

If this topic was created to go against some of the rediculous fanboy incontinence that is posted in the forums, then I agree. There are indeed some fanboys that will post and use 360/PC titles as exclusives....which they are not. However, fans of particular systems will debate (and I use this term loosely) as to the validitiy of their system against another system using titles that one or the other cannot play. They are not claiming exclusitivity of a title. They are simply stating that one system cannot play certain titles that another system can. This is when Sony fanboys will bring up the PC shield. Which is fine. We should then include the cost of the gaming PC to the PS3.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]

Lemming logic is flawed, cow logic is flawed when they use Sony exclusives(PS3, PS2, PSP), works both ways.

WilliamRLBaker

I'm more appalled by the fact that some people here are acting like any faction has ever gotten away using that argument. They haven't and never will.

And they have all equally been shot down everytime. There has never been any exceptions so its not like any faction is getting unfair treatment, that's my point.

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] I don't go by anything I buy what I want to buy. I own all 3 systems. Nothing stops me I use GS more as a stepping stone to see if games are worth buying.I Like all systems equally and if something just has more and you deem it better not by your own standards then I don't know what to say.Animal-Mother