lemming logic is flawed...

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] You're the one who didn't think he should even include the price of a PC monitor because it was too long ago!Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="rybe1025"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] You're the one who didn't think he should even include the price of a PC monitor because it was too long ago!Animal-Mother

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

[QUOTE="rybe1025"] Do not even bother. He is even trying to add in batteries now to the 360 priceenterawesome

[QUOTE="deadesa"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

LOL.... hold on a min.I thought they were multiplats....?? Now all of a sudden they are "pc games"? There's some cow logic for ya.

nyctota

why would someone even need a xbox360 in general..

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Ohh so I bought a system at 400 dollars and now I cant say I bought it at 400? You wanna hear something really really funny. I bought My ps3 at a cheaper price than my 360. Sorry. You guys compare the most expensive Ps3 to the cheapest 360. Why dont you make it even sided Elite 360 Vs Ps3

Irick_cb

.... should we include the price of an HDTV? because monitors are generally cheeper then TVs.

I'm suprised no one brought that up sooner. Well, I did, but I deleted my post to see if someone else would. Anyway, you can get a 26" 1080p monitor for about $120. You're sitting right if front of it, so size doesn't matter as much. How much will it cost for an HDTV for viewing from across the room? If adding the cost of a monitor to a PC, then adding the cost of an HDTV to a console is fair game.

What do you expect for a cheap console.furomaster_99

[QUOTE="nyctota"]

[QUOTE="deadesa"]Yeah why would someone need to have a gaming pc and a 360 to play a 360/pc multiplat??TheOwnerOner

why would someone even need a xbox360 in general..

to play xbox 360/pc multiplat games you need a super gaming rig ??? lol nice damage control.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] Ohh so I bought a system at 400 dollars and now I cant say I bought it at 400? You wanna hear something really really funny. I bought My ps3 at a cheaper price than my 360. Sorry. You guys compare the most expensive Ps3 to the cheapest 360. Why dont you make it even sided Elite 360 Vs Ps3

.... should we include the price of an HDTV? because monitors are generally cheeper then TVs.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Show me where lemmings call 360/PC games exclusive to 360, THEN we can talk. Also, even if we allow that a $700 PC can qualify as a "gaming" pc, it still requires you to pay minimum $1100 to combat the $250 X360... is that really an argument you want to make with a straight face?Irick_cb

I'll take two hits of whatever you are smoking.

Most thread getting over run by lemmings now have them saying M$ exclusive rather then 360 exclusive.

But the truth is NO hermit would want to be associated with any lemming any day. They're not gonna say M$ to put the 360 games library in their count. If that were the case, there wouldn't 360 loyalists and PC loyalists they would all be 1 group of microsoft loyalists and the world would end.

THIS IS SYSTEM WARS NOT COMPANY WARS. It's not M$ vs Sony. It's PS3 vs Wii vs 360 vs PC. END OF DISCUSSION.

And EVERY lemming on the first page of the thread completely misunderstood the point the TC was making. He was saying that YOU LEMMING are trying to include the PC library into the 360's library because the games are M$ exclusive. He wasn't trying to pit the PC and PS3 against the 360...READING COMPREHENSION FTW.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

You're the one who didn't think he should even include the price of a PC monitor because it was too long ago!dsmccracken

.... should we include the price of an HDTV? because monitors are generally cheeper then TVs.

I'm suprised no one brought that up sooner. Well, I did, but I deleted my post to see if someone else would. Anyway, you can get a 26" 1080p monitor for about $120. You're sitting right if front of it, so size doesn't matter as much. How much will it cost for an HDTV for viewing from across the room? If adding the cost of a monitor to a PC, then adding the cost of an HDTV to a console is fair game.

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="nyctota"]

why would someone even need a xbox360 in general..

simslifer

to play xbox 360/pc multiplat games you need a super gaming rig ??? lol nice damage control.

I love this arguement when it's been proven time and time again that any new pre built computer at future shop will play these games, maybe not at the highest settings but they will still look and play better then their 360 counter parts.

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"] What do you expect for a cheap console.IronBass

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"] exactly, Every Cow already owns a Super gaming Rigenygma500

to play xbox 360/pc multiplat games you need a super gaming rig ??? lol nice damage control.

I love this arguement when it's been proven time and time again that any new pre built computer at future shop will play these games, maybe not at the highest settings but they will still look and play better then their 360 counter parts.

Exclusives are usually what define console experience.Irick_cb

Not this gen. Check out the highest-rated games (between the PS3 and 360).

Most of them aren't exclusives.

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="furomaster_99"] What do you expect for a cheap console.furomaster_99

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

to play xbox 360/pc multiplat games you need a super gaming rig ??? lol nice damage control.

TheOwnerOner

I love this arguement when it's been proven time and time again that any new pre built computer at future shop will play these games, maybe not at the highest settings but they will still look and play better then their 360 counter parts.

But you don't even need a coslty rg to play these game is all I'm saying. Lemming do like to say that every cow owns a $5000 rig, which just blows my mind. No matter how many times it's said they just don't listen.

the ONLY thing I think SW can agree on is crysis's graphical prowess. other then that it's all hypocrits and fanboys. with a few logical thinking people thrown in there.

[QUOTE="TheOwnerOner"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

I love this arguement when it's been proven time and time again that any new pre built computer at future shop will play these games, maybe not at the highest settings but they will still look and play better then their 360 counter parts.

enygma500

But you don't even need a coslty rg to play these game is all I'm saying. Lemming do like to say that every cow owns a $5000 rig, which just blows my mind. No matter how many times it's said they just don't listen.

the ONLY thing I think SW can agree on is crysis's graphical prowess. other then that it's all hypocrits and fanboys. with a few logical thinking people thrown in there.

[QUOTE="deadesa"][QUOTE="whatisazerg"]

LOL.... hold on a min.I thought they were multiplats....?? Now all of a sudden they are "pc games"? There's some cow logic for ya.

nyctota

why would someone even need a xbox360 in general..

and i dont have a gaming PC..

i have a PS3/360 combo and theres nothing wrong with that.

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] To play most of the highest rated games this gen? -Check- ;)WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

Yeah, identical.

You know, except for the games.

But they aren't identical.

Not in the least.

The only thing even similar about them is that they are not the wii.

Multiplats make up a very small percentage of my library, sense few of them are worth playing.

Exclusives are usually what define console experience.

You are unable to distinguish between an objective argument and a subjective argument. Objective: the libraries for the 2 consoles. Subjective: YOUR library for YOUR console. We can't have an intelligible debate over YOUR specific library of games, dude! Exclusives only make up a small portion of the PS3 library, that's just a fact. As for what defines the console experience, exclusives are a dying breed. I'm not saying that they don't matter, or are irrelevant, but I am saying that they matter less than ever before in any gaming gen... and it's getting worse. Exclusives are falling left and right, and have been all gen. You can lament the fact, but there's no denying it. What we're left with is a small handful, and a small handful of debates praising such titans of the industry as LBP and Heavenly Bloody Sword. Be real now, are these the games that had you shaking in anticipation pre-launch? The general cow consensus of mooing pre-gen were about 4 exclusive franchises: MGS, FF, DMC, and GT, and to a lesser extent Tekken. And what's happened? You got your AAAAE in MGS4, but FF and DMC were lost, and GT is still nowhere to be seen 4 years into gen. So you've all exaggerated (both here and to yourselves) the importance of these lesser titles, and convince yourselves that exclusives are still where it's at. Resistence? Please, it's a fine FPS, but NO ONE dished out $800+ at launch for Resistence, Motorstorm, etc.dsmccracken

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Show me where lemmings call 360/PC games exclusive to 360, THEN we can talk. Also, even if we allow that a $700 PC can qualify as a "gaming" pc, it still requires you to pay minimum $1100 to combat the $250 X360... is that really an argument you want to make with a straight face?Irick_cb

I'll take two hits of whatever you are smoking.

[QUOTE="furomaster_99"]

[QUOTE="IronBass"] To play most of the highest rated games this gen? -Check- ;)WilliamRLBaker

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]You are unable to distinguish between an objective argument and a subjective argument. Objective: the libraries for the 2 consoles. Subjective: YOUR library for YOUR console. We can't have an intelligible debate over YOUR specific library of games, dude! Exclusives only make up a small portion of the PS3 library, that's just a fact. As for what defines the console experience, exclusives are a dying breed. I'm not saying that they don't matter, or are irrelevant, but I am saying that they matter less than ever before in any gaming gen... and it's getting worse. Exclusives are falling left and right, and have been all gen. You can lament the fact, but there's no denying it. What we're left with is a small handful, and a small handful of debates praising such titans of the industry as LBP and Heavenly Bloody Sword. Be real now, are these the games that had you shaking in anticipation pre-launch? The general cow consensus of mooing pre-gen were about 4 exclusive franchises: MGS, FF, DMC, and GT, and to a lesser extent Tekken. And what's happened? You got your AAAAE in MGS4, but FF and DMC were lost, and GT is still nowhere to be seen 4 years into gen. So you've all exaggerated (both here and to yourselves) the importance of these lesser titles, and convince yourselves that exclusives are still where it's at. Resistence? Please, it's a fine FPS, but NO ONE dished out $800+ at launch for Resistence, Motorstorm, etc.Irick_cb

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]Show me where lemmings call 360/PC games exclusive to 360, THEN we can talk. Also, even if we allow that a $700 PC can qualify as a "gaming" pc, it still requires you to pay minimum $1100 to combat the $250 X360... is that really an argument you want to make with a straight face?dsmccracken

I'll take two hits of whatever you are smoking.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"]You are unable to distinguish between an objective argument and a subjective argument. Objective: the libraries for the 2 consoles. Subjective: YOUR library for YOUR console. We can't have an intelligible debate over YOUR specific library of games, dude! Exclusives only make up a small portion of the PS3 library, that's just a fact. As for what defines the console experience, exclusives are a dying breed. I'm not saying that they don't matter, or are irrelevant, but I am saying that they matter less than ever before in any gaming gen... and it's getting worse. Exclusives are falling left and right, and have been all gen. You can lament the fact, but there's no denying it. What we're left with is a small handful, and a small handful of debates praising such titans of the industry as LBP and Heavenly Bloody Sword. Be real now, are these the games that had you shaking in anticipation pre-launch? The general cow consensus of mooing pre-gen were about 4 exclusive franchises: MGS, FF, DMC, and GT, and to a lesser extent Tekken. And what's happened? You got your AAAAE in MGS4, but FF and DMC were lost, and GT is still nowhere to be seen 4 years into gen. So you've all exaggerated (both here and to yourselves) the importance of these lesser titles, and convince yourselves that exclusives are still where it's at. Resistence? Please, it's a fine FPS, but NO ONE dished out $800+ at launch for Resistence, Motorstorm, etc.dsmccracken

[QUOTE="simslifer"]

exactly, Every Cow already owns a Super gaming RigTheOwnerOner

to play xbox 360/pc multiplat games you need a super gaming rig ??? lol nice damage control.

I love this arguement when it's been proven time and time again that any new pre built computer at future shop will play these games, maybe not at the highest settings but they will still look and play better then their 360 counter parts.

This thread went so off-topic.

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

Show me where lemmings call 360/PC games exclusive to 360, THEN we can talk. Also, even if we allow that a $700 PC can qualify as a "gaming" pc, it still requires you to pay minimum $1100 to combat the $250 X360... is that really an argument you want to make with a straight face?dsmccracken

I'll take two hits of whatever you are smoking.

Most thread getting over run by lemmings now have them saying M$ exclusive rather then 360 exclusive.

But the truth is NO hermit would want to be associated with any lemming any day. They're not gonna say M$ to put the 360 games library in their count. If that were the case, there wouldn't 360 loyalists and PC loyalists they would all be 1 group of microsoft loyalists and the world would end.

THIS IS SYSTEM WARS NOT COMPANY WARS. It's not M$ vs Sony. It's PS3 vs Wii vs 360 vs PC. END OF DISCUSSION.

And EVERY lemming on the first page of the thread completely misunderstood the point the TC was making. He was saying that YOU LEMMING are trying to include the PC library into the 360's library because the games are M$ exclusive. He wasn't trying to pit the PC and PS3 against the 360...READING COMPREHENSION FTW.

This thread went so off-topic.

-PuLse

It basically happens in every SW thread lol.

calling games M$ windows exclusive why not call it nvidia exclusive or intel exclusive since no one ownes the pc platform.. pc= open platform

nyctota

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] I said nearly identical, emphasis on nearly... exclusives count for a small % of the total library of either system. Further, the difference in exclusives basically cancel each other out, coming down to tastes... so yeah, as a general gaming experience, nearly identical. You know?dsmccracken

But they aren't identical.

Not in the least.

The only thing even similar about them is that they are not the wii.

Multiplats make up a very small percentage of my library, sense few of them are worth playing.

Exclusives are usually what define console experience.

As for what defines the console experience, exclusives are a dying breed. I'm not saying that they don't matter, or are irrelevant, but I am saying that they matter less than ever before in any gaming gen... and it's getting worse. Exclusives are falling left and right, and have been all gen. You can lament the fact, but there's no denying it. What we're left with is a small handful, and a small handful of debates praising such titans of the industry as LBP and Heavenly Bloody Sword. Be real now, are these the games that had you shaking in anticipation pre-launch? The general cow consensus of mooing pre-gen were about 4 exclusive franchises: MGS, FF, DMC, and GT, and to a lesser extent Tekken. And what's happened? You got your AAAAE in MGS4, but FF and DMC were lost, and GT is still nowhere to be seen 4 years into gen.

So you've all exaggerated (both here and to yourselves) the importance of these lesser titles, and convince yourselves that exclusives are still where it's at. Resistence? Please, it's a fine FPS, but NO ONE dished out $800+ at launch for Resistence, Motorstorm, etc.

There's your spacing.

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

This thread went so off-topic.

ActicEdge

It basically happens in every SW thread lol.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

I'll take two hits of whatever you are smoking.

Irick_cb

[QUOTE="STRETCH-E"]

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]When a cow or sheep says that however they say stop hiding behind the PC because none of those factions can play the game they are talking about.WilliamRLBaker

But I can. And you would most certainly consider me a cow no?

That's the point.

Since you admit to being the lemming we all know you are, that instantly flaws any of your arguements as they will all be of a biased nature. To make a truely great arguement you would need to be as objective as possable. Which you CAN'T do due to how blindly you follow M$.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="Irick_cb"]

But they aren't identical.

Not in the least.

The only thing even similar about them is that they are not the wii.

Multiplats make up a very small percentage of my library, sense few of them are worth playing.

Exclusives are usually what define console experience.

dsmccracken

As for what defines the console experience, exclusives are a dying breed. I'm not saying that they don't matter, or are irrelevant, but I am saying that they matter less than ever before in any gaming gen... and it's getting worse. Exclusives are falling left and right, and have been all gen. You can lament the fact, but there's no denying it. What we're left with is a small handful, and a small handful of debates praising such titans of the industry as LBP and Heavenly Bloody Sword. Be real now, are these the games that had you shaking in anticipation pre-launch? The general cow consensus of mooing pre-gen were about 4 exclusive franchises: MGS, FF, DMC, and GT, and to a lesser extent Tekken. And what's happened? You got your AAAAE in MGS4, but FF and DMC were lost, and GT is still nowhere to be seen 4 years into gen.

So you've all exaggerated (both here and to yourselves) the importance of these lesser titles, and convince yourselves that exclusives are still where it's at. Resistence? Please, it's a fine FPS, but NO ONE dished out $800+ at launch for Resistence, Motorstorm, etc.

There's your spacing.

The funny thing is you assume i like Resistance and Moterstorm.

Losing those exclusives really wasn't a big deal for me, i know Tekken at least will play most true to arcade on the PS3 as that is what the Arcade board uses.

I own all three systems, and i payed the same for my 360 and my first PS3.

I have no attachment to either in the way of initial investment and in fact should be discriminating against PS3, but i don't because the exclusives truly are worth it.

Microsoft first party studios simply can not put out the same quality and the same amount of quality titles as Sony first party.

I just found it funny you argue that either the PS3 or the PC needs any other compliment to take on the 360.

It is truly a laughable prospect.

(P.S. Thanks for the formatting)

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"][QUOTE="dsmccracken"] Math requires ganga?dsmccracken

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] You are unable to distinguish between an objective argument and a subjective argument. Objective: the libraries for the 2 consoles. Subjective: YOUR library for YOUR console. We can't have an intelligible debate over YOUR specific library of games, dude! Exclusives only make up a small portion of the PS3 library, that's just a fact.

As for what defines the console experience, exclusives are a dying breed. I'm not saying that they don't matter, or are irrelevant, but I am saying that they matter less than ever before in any gaming gen... and it's getting worse. Exclusives are falling left and right, and have been all gen. You can lament the fact, but there's no denying it. What we're left with is a small handful, and a small handful of debates praising such titans of the industry as LBP and Heavenly Bloody Sword. Be real now, are these the games that had you shaking in anticipation pre-launch? The general cow consensus of mooing pre-gen were about 4 exclusive franchises: MGS, FF, DMC, and GT, and to a lesser extent Tekken. And what's happened? You got your AAAAE in MGS4, but FF and DMC were lost, and GT is still nowhere to be seen 4 years into gen.

So you've all exaggerated (both here and to yourselves) the importance of these lesser titles, and convince yourselves that exclusives are still where it's at. Resistence? Please, it's a fine FPS, but NO ONE dished out $800+ at launch for Resistence, Motorstorm, etc.

There's your spacing.

The funny thing is you assume i like Resistance and Moterstorm.

Losing those exclusives really wasn't a big deal for me, i know Tekken at least will play most true to arcade on the PS3 as that is what the Arcade board uses.

I own all three systems, and i payed the same for my 360 and my first PS3.

I have no attachment to either in the way of initial investment and in fact should be discriminating against PS3, but i don't because the exclusives truly are worth it.

Microsoft first party studios simply can not put out the same quality and the same amount of quality titles as Sony first party.

I just found it funny you argue that either the PS3 or the PC needs any other compliment to take on the 360.

It is truly a laughable prospect.

(P.S. Thanks for the formatting)

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

[QUOTE="-PuLse"]

This thread went so off-topic.

-PuLse

It basically happens in every SW thread lol.

Don't worry, you;ll get use to it evetually. Wait till your first moderation, that's when reality hits you lol.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

[QUOTE="Irick_cb"] Saying that a PC needs any console to combat the 360's offerings does. Same with the PS3, it is more then capable of a stand alone assault.enygma500

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

Saying that a PC needs any console to combat the 360's offerings does. Same with the PS3, it is more then capable of a stand alone assault.Irick_cb

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] If that were true (of the PS3), then we wouldn't be here. A stand alone PS3 makes every PC/360 game effectively (but not technically) exclusive, which frankly makes the PS3 library cry uncle.

dsmccracken

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

I don't make that argument, cows make it for me when they constantly bring up the PC in regards to the 360 library. One need only look through this thread to see what I mean.dsmccracken

Oh?

If that were true (of the PS3), then we wouldn't be here. A stand alone PS3 makes every PC/360 game effectively (but not technically) exclusive, which frankly makes the PS3 library cry uncle.dsmccracken

Must just be my imagination then.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

A game is either exclusive... or it's not. Mass Effect is not exclusive, because it is on two systems (360 & PC). Now, if you want to champion different jargon like "console exclusive", I'm all for that.dsmccracken

[QUOTE="enygma500"]

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"] If that were true (of the PS3), then we wouldn't be here. A stand alone PS3 makes every PC/360 game effectively (but not technically) exclusive, which frankly makes the PS3 library cry uncle.

dsmccracken

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

A PC with a moniter that would rn the games at higher specs then the 360 would be $800, no assembly required. just walk into future shop and buy one. Plus we all know that pretty much every home in america has AT LEAST 1 PC in it. You do the math.

Cows would most likely own a PC regardless of their gaming affiliation so you fail.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

You need two platforms to combat one. Nice job.

AAllxxjjnn

lol first post wins

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"]I don't make that argument, cows make it for me when they constantly bring up the PC in regards to the 360 library. One need only look through this thread to see what I mean.Irick_cb

Oh?

If that were true (of the PS3), then we wouldn't be here. A stand alone PS3 makes every PC/360 game effectively (but not technically) exclusive, which frankly makes the PS3 library cry uncle.dsmccracken

Must just be my imagination then.

[QUOTE="dsmccracken"][QUOTE="enygma500"]

Im on a FREE PC right now that's more then capable of playing those "exclusives". Does that mean I win?

The fact remains that a high percentage of cows are probably able to play these game if they so choose. It's doesn't take an uber rig to play the games. AND THEY CAN PLAY THE GAMES WITHOUT HAVING A 360 IN THEIR HOUSE. therefore IT'S NOT AN EXCLUSIVE.

A PC with a moniter that would rn the games at higher specs then the 360 would be $800, no assembly required. just walk into future shop and buy one. Plus we all know that pretty much every home in america has AT LEAST 1 PC in it. You do the math.

Cows would most likely own a PC regardless of their gaming affiliation so you fail.