Metro LL's chief technical officer cofirms PS4 2x comparable PC in power.

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#251 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="NathanDrakeSwag"]

ITT: Hermit tears

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Yep. Laughter from idiotic fanboy comments like yours can indeed make people tear up.

the amount of stupid makes you want to cry?

That, too.
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#252 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"][QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"][QUOTE="call_of_duty_10"] I see you are back,HeeWee. How's life treating you?

2014 officially be 10 year old cpu running crysis 3 on max.

:lol: And this is why I enjoy reading your posts!You don't give a single f*ck about the topic or the posts in it!

ps4/xbone isnt more powerful than my pc i built for doom3 lol muchless a new pc i build.
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#253 oldgamesbetter
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8 core cpu running at 1.6...only like 5-6 cores usable and weaker than 2004 winchester. Not to mention i can clock my athlon64 up to 2.8 ghz. Not to mention i can use two graphics cards twice as powerful as ps4 or xbone's. yea 10 year old pc still stomps ps4/xbones ass
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#254 oldgamesbetter
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my main limit is 4gb max on motherboard. but that aint gonna hurt too much actually.
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#255 oldgamesbetter
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i can have twice as much video ram though.
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#256 oldgamesbetter
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after ps4/xbone use their shared ram for video ram be only about 3/4gb ram left for cpu unless game has really sucky textures. But i can still have much more video ram and run higher res textures.
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#257 Tessellation
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embarrassing thread just like the ones you make a beyond3D that's why everyone laughs at you :lol:
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#258 dkdk999
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How many obscene lies do we have to hear about the hardware ?
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#259 oldgamesbetter
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embarrassing thread just like the ones you make a beyond3D that's why everyone laughs at you :lol:Tessellation
they said killzone 4 shadows fall demo used 3gb for video ram. ok 7gb supposibly usable. ONLY 4GB left for cpu ram. ahahah i can buy a 4gb video card now lol.
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#260 oldgamesbetter
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10 year old pc still kills ps4/xbone accept it.
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#261 oldgamesbetter
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run two 4gb 670 gtx's in here sli mode. 4gb cpu ram....8gb video ram.
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8 core cpu running at 1.6...only like 5-6 cores usable and weaker than 2004 winchester. Not to mention i can clock my athlon64 up to 2.8 ghz. Not to mention i can use two graphics cards twice as powerful as ps4 or xbone's. yea 10 year old pc still stomps ps4/xbones ass oldgamesbetter

Troll account?

Jaguar's IPC stomps all over Wincester's IPC and has more/better instruction sets to use. You'd bottleneck the heck out of any modern GPU you tried to pair up with an AMD64.

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#263 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]8 core cpu running at 1.6...only like 5-6 cores usable and weaker than 2004 winchester. Not to mention i can clock my athlon64 up to 2.8 ghz. Not to mention i can use two graphics cards twice as powerful as ps4 or xbone's. yea 10 year old pc still stomps ps4/xbones ass Aidenfury19

Troll account?

Jaguar's IPC stomps all over Wincester's IPC and has more/better instruction sets to use. You'd bottleneck the heck out of any modern GPU you tried to pair up with an AMD64.

running at lower clock and confirmed does less operations per clock cycle.
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#264 mitu123
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run two 4gb 670 gtx's in here sli mode. 4gb cpu ram....8gb video ram.oldgamesbetter
Lol what?

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#265 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]8 core cpu running at 1.6...only like 5-6 cores usable and weaker than 2004 winchester. Not to mention i can clock my athlon64 up to 2.8 ghz. Not to mention i can use two graphics cards twice as powerful as ps4 or xbone's. yea 10 year old pc still stomps ps4/xbones ass Aidenfury19

Troll account?

Jaguar's IPC stomps all over Wincester's IPC and has more/better instruction sets to use. You'd bottleneck the heck out of any modern GPU you tried to pair up with an AMD64.

bottlenecking is exaggerated bullshit.
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#266 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]run two 4gb 670 gtx's in here sli mode. 4gb cpu ram....8gb video ram.mitu123

Lol what?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186059 This motherboard holds 4gb ram max and can run two titan graphics cards if i wanted.
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#267 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]run two 4gb 670 gtx's in here sli mode. 4gb cpu ram....8gb video ram.oldgamesbetter

Lol what?

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186059 This motherboard holds 4gb ram max and can run two titan graphics cards if i wanted.

Ok, I see what you mean now.

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#268 oldgamesbetter
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soon to be 10 year old cpu in that motherboard that holds 4gb ram max ddr1 and can run two geforce titans lol
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#269 lundy86_4  Online
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Man, I miss heewee's Xbox Live messages. They were funny as shit, for a while.

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#270 oldgamesbetter
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Sure a modern cpu would push titan better at lower res...but if you crank up the resolution so high titans itself can barly handle it doesnt make a shit acouple frames at most difference.
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#271 oldgamesbetter
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the higher and higher the res the more workload is offloaded onto the gpu and cpu speed doesnt matter nearly as much.
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]8 core cpu running at 1.6...only like 5-6 cores usable and weaker than 2004 winchester. Not to mention i can clock my athlon64 up to 2.8 ghz. Not to mention i can use two graphics cards twice as powerful as ps4 or xbone's. yea 10 year old pc still stomps ps4/xbones ass oldgamesbetter

Troll account?

Jaguar's IPC stomps all over Wincester's IPC and has more/better instruction sets to use. You'd bottleneck the heck out of any modern GPU you tried to pair up with an AMD64.

running at lower clock and confirmed does less operations per clock cycle.

Jaguar IPC is a bit less than Llano/Stars which itself was a 6-8% improvement over Phenom II. Winchester was a K8 part which had considerably worse IPC than even Phenom, much less Phenom II.

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#273 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Troll account?

Jaguar's IPC stomps all over Wincester's IPC and has more/better instruction sets to use. You'd bottleneck the heck out of any modern GPU you tried to pair up with an AMD64.

Aidenfury19

running at lower clock and confirmed does less operations per clock cycle.

Jaguar IPC is a bit less than Llano/Stars which itself was a 6-8% improvement over Phenom II. Winchester was a K8 part which had considerably worse IPC than even Phenom, much less Phenom II.

anandtech already confirmed k8 is more powerful than the jaguar.
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"] running at lower clock and confirmed does less operations per clock cycle.oldgamesbetter

Jaguar IPC is a bit less than Llano/Stars which itself was a 6-8% improvement over Phenom II. Winchester was a K8 part which had considerably worse IPC than even Phenom, much less Phenom II.

anandtech already confirmed k8 is more powerful than the jaguar.

Prove it.

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#275 oldgamesbetter
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This cpu was seriously way ahead of it's time reason it's lasted so long and intel didnt finally catch up untill the core 2 architecture.
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#276 nameless12345
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So there you have it, folks - the makers of the best-looking PC game praise PS4 but spit on WiiU.

Where are "sheep" now? :P

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#277 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Jaguar IPC is a bit less than Llano/Stars which itself was a 6-8% improvement over Phenom II. Winchester was a K8 part which had considerably worse IPC than even Phenom, much less Phenom II.

Aidenfury19

anandtech already confirmed k8 is more powerful than the jaguar.

Prove it.

its on their site i didnt favorite the article just look up ps4 in their search or something or click their cpu tab.
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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"] anandtech already confirmed k8 is more powerful than the jaguar.oldgamesbetter

Prove it.

its on their site i didnt favorite the article just look up ps4 in their search or something or click their cpu tab.

No, you're the one here claiming it's better, if you want anybody to believe you link the fricking article.

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So there you have it, folks - the makers of the best-looking PC game praise PS4 but spit on WiiU.

Where are "sheep" now? :P

nameless12345

 

That happens before every gen and then it turns out to be BS.

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#280 oldgamesbetter
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http://anandtech.com/show/6976/amds-jaguar-architecture-the-cpu-powering-xbox-one-playstation-4-kabini-temash Weaker than k8 :)
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http://anandtech.com/show/6976/amds-jaguar-architecture-the-cpu-powering-xbox-one-playstation-4-kabini-temash Weaker than k8 :)oldgamesbetter

Stop lying, there is NO mention of K8 in that article. I don't even need to read the thing again as I've done so previously.

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#282 oldgamesbetter
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Not the exact article i read months ago when ps4 was revealed but that still confirms the jaguar is just like the bobcat and it's weaker than a k8.
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"][QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

Jaguar IPC is a bit less than Llano/Stars which itself was a 6-8% improvement over Phenom II. Winchester was a K8 part which had considerably worse IPC than even Phenom, much less Phenom II.

Aidenfury19

anandtech already confirmed k8 is more powerful than the jaguar.

Prove it.

Jaguar is only suppose to be 15% faster on average vs bobcat clock per clock.

benchfin2.png

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soon to be 10 year old cpu in that motherboard that holds 4gb ram max ddr1 and can run two geforce titans lololdgamesbetter

are you high?

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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]soon to be 10 year old cpu in that motherboard that holds 4gb ram max ddr1 and can run two geforce titans lolMK-Professor

are you high?

You dont think i can put two geforce titans into this sli motherboard? Are you high?
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]soon to be 10 year old cpu in that motherboard that holds 4gb ram max ddr1 and can run two geforce titans lololdgamesbetter

are you high?

You dont think i can put two geforce titans into this sli motherboard? Are you high?

nobody cares

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[QUOTE="millerlight89"][QUOTE="zekere"][QUOTE="millerlight89"] Yea, that's why the Titan has already outsold the GTX680.....derp

The majority of gamers doesn't pay $1000 for a GPU

Which has nothing to do with your original statement. I gave you an example of a $1000 card out selling a sub $500 card in like a month or so. This proves your statement wrong. Is this why you changed topics? I'm not a fan of discussing things with someone who just switches topics when proven wrong, it's boring and a waste of time.

Link? I saw that the 690 was outsold, but since you said $500, that rules out a typo.
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Any modern graphics card i can slap into this 2004 socket 939 sli motherboard. with this 2004 cpu. it's just funny to push old hardware to the limits anyway see how long you can make it last
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ITT, hermits who think they know more than the developer of one of the most technically advanced games in recent memory :?

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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]soon to be 10 year old cpu in that motherboard that holds 4gb ram max ddr1 and can run two geforce titans lololdgamesbetter

are you high?

You dont think i can put two geforce titans into this sli motherboard? Are you high?

because you will get 10% of the titans performance like that :?

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[QUOTE="Aidenfury19"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"] anandtech already confirmed k8 is more powerful than the jaguar.04dcarraher

Prove it.

Jaguar is only suppose to be 15% faster on average vs bobcat clock per clock.

benchfin2.png

That chart shows that K8 trails Bobcat in integer performance, the integer performance is where the 15-20% IPC improvement comes into play. The FPU performance improvement for Jaguar is much higher than 15%.

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i know from experience it's not outdated enough to pack it away yet.
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#293 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"][QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

are you high?

MK-Professor

You dont think i can put two geforce titans into this sli motherboard? Are you high?

because you will get 10% of the titans performance like that :?

Yea man 10% of the performance at 2600x1600 with x16 AA with 100% gpu workload BS
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#294 oldgamesbetter
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anandtech said the bobcat=jaguar pretty much and it's weaker than k8.
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#295 oldgamesbetter
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Even if the jaguar does slightly more instructions per clock running at same clock speed as k8. my k8's default clock is 2.0 ghz so that makes up for it and i can clock alot higher than that to more than make up for it. ps4 and xbone only 1.6 ghz LOL
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Even if the jaguar does slightly more instructions per clock running at same clock speed as k8. my k8's default clock is 2.0 ghz so that makes up for it and i can clock alot higher than that to more than make up for it. ps4 and xbone only 1.6 ghz LOLoldgamesbetter

Again, you're ignoring improved instruction sets which improve performance dramatically and the fact that Jaguar has more cores available to use. You have to be a troll account, but in any case if you can't start providing proof for some of your claims you'll start to be reported for trolling.

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#297 oldgamesbetter
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k8 and jaguar are more related than the pentium 4 and athlon 64 ever were. so it's easier to compare.
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[QUOTE="MK-Professor"]

[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"] You dont think i can put two geforce titans into this sli motherboard? Are you high?oldgamesbetter

because you will get 10% of the titans performance like that :?

Yea man 10% of the performance at 2600x1600 with x16 AA with 100% gpu workload BS

100% gpu usage at 7680×4320 ...

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ITT, hermits who think they know more than the developer of one of the most technically advanced games in recent memory :?

Peredith

Also, ITT: huge PR.

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#300 oldgamesbetter
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[QUOTE="oldgamesbetter"]Even if the jaguar does slightly more instructions per clock running at same clock speed as k8. my k8's default clock is 2.0 ghz so that makes up for it and i can clock alot higher than that to more than make up for it. ps4 and xbone only 1.6 ghz LOLAidenfury19

Again, you're ignoring improved instruction sets which improve performance dramatically and the fact that Jaguar has more cores available to use. You have to be a troll account, but in any case if you can't start providing proof for some of your claims you'll start to be reported for trolling.

Im just saying what anandtech.com said the bobcat=the jaguar and it's weaker than the k8.