Microsoft has Payed For RE5 timed Exclusivity.(Rumor)

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Okay, quick question. Do the public schools of America teach economics or business classes anymore? My private schools did, but this thread is showing me some...disturbing possibilities.xscrapzx

But isn't it good business to not spend money towards gaining a competitive advantage? :|

What??!!! Look what you just wrote. Isn't that the whole point in business, are really serious right now? :|

The point of business is considered to be the earning of profits. But using an advantage of wealth is one of the most common practices out there.

[QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Okay, quick question. Do the public schools of America teach economics or business classes anymore? My private schools did, but this thread is showing me some...disturbing possibilities.xscrapzx

But isn't it good business to not spend money towards gaining a competitive advantage? :|

What??!!! Look what you just wrote. Isn't that the whole point in business, are really serious right now? :|

According to my handy sarcasm meter, I'm totally serious.

Wait... I think this thing is broken...

[QUOTE="badbaackwards"]money wise microsoft might have more i dont know, but sony is a larger companystiltzsy

Market value ms is the 7th largest company. Sony is no where near the top 10 (I think)

when i said sony was a larger company i didnt' mean market value i meant assets like what owned

Actually I am dead serious. I didn't even know it was debatable. It is well-known and well-documented that Microsoft would rather pay for something than create it. This isn't some conspiracy theory attack plan, it is how they conduct business. It works for them, obviously, so kudos to them, but I find it kind of pathetic.

Please, set me straight with some of your usual faux-bipartisan nonsense.

excelR83

Anyone who thinks that Microsoft seriously hasn't come up with a single original product is not worth debating with.

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="sonicmj1"]

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Okay, quick question. Do the public schools of America teach economics or business classes anymore? My private schools did, but this thread is showing me some...disturbing possibilities.sonicmj1

But isn't it good business to not spend money towards gaining a competitive advantage? :|

What??!!! Look what you just wrote. Isn't that the whole point in business, are really serious right now? :|

According to my handy sarcasm meter, I'm totally serious.

Wait... I think this thing is broken...

Mines is broken. :(

[QUOTE="stiltzsy"]

At the high of the stock bubble they actually passed up GE as teh largest company in the world (market value). top 5 was a swag...someone above said 60 (sounds low to me, but believable as the stock has been static for years now).

EDIT: as of may 2008 they are the 7th largest: http://www.topix.com/metro/newark-nj/2008/05/petrobras-passes-microsoft-icbc-to-become-worlds-sixth-biggest-company

SpruceCaboose

The Forbes Global 2000 has MS at 63rd. The Forbes 500 has them at 44th. Listed by revenue, they are 117th, and by market cap they are 7th.

Revenue doesn't mean as much. If I sell $1trillion in parts, but only make $5 profit total....doesn't make me a big in terms of being able to buy people out. So market value in this discussion is more relevant.

I doubt it. Capcom is too big of a company to play by childish rules like that. It could potentially damage the sales of millions of copies of RE 5. bstarter29

there's nothing childish about it. if they're paying for timed exclusivity, MS is set to pay Capcom a large portion of the money Capcom would have made had the game not gone temporarially exclusive.

Capcom wins financially thanks to guaranteed money. MS wins because they get maybe the best game of 2009 all to themselves for some meaningful period of time.

Whatever sales that could be potentially "damaged" as you put it will be regained via Microsoft's investment.

and lose money i think not looks at dmc4, lost planet, bionic commando, re5 exclusive would lose them to much money

mgsbethatgame

lose money RE5 would not.

[QUOTE="stiltzsy"]

[QUOTE="badbaackwards"]money wise microsoft might have more i dont know, but sony is a larger companybadbaackwards

Market value ms is the 7th largest company. Sony is no where near the top 10 (I think)

when i said sony was a larger company i didnt' mean market value i meant assets like what owned

What good does that do? But Market value does factor that in to a degree. Plus we are talking about payola to companies to keep stuff on the 360 and away from the PS3. How does owning a TV mfg plant help them pay off capcom? When M$ has money just sitting there that they need to spend.

I hope not. If M$ can't get developers to come on board on there own then they need to change things in the company itself instead of trying to buy there way into game studios.jimm895

No offense, but why would a company like Capcom want to just "jump on baord" they will make money either way hence why money is needed to get the partial exclusiovity. It is basically to make up for lost profits they would have earned for multiplating a game right away.

has his post turned into an economics classedo-tensei

has his post turned into an economics classedo-tensei

Seeing some of the serious posts made in this thread, it's needed.

[QUOTE="badbaackwards"][QUOTE="stiltzsy"]

[QUOTE="badbaackwards"]money wise microsoft might have more i dont know, but sony is a larger companystiltzsy

Market value ms is the 7th largest company. Sony is no where near the top 10 (I think)

when i said sony was a larger company i didnt' mean market value i meant assets like what owned

What good does that do? But Market value does factor that in to a degree. Plus we are talking about payola to companies to keep stuff on the 360 and away from the PS3. How does owning a TV mfg plant help them pay off capcom? When M$ has money just sitting there that they need to spend.

true say but they also own movie studios and recording studios which give them money to pay off capcom. The way I see it is they just see ps3 as a small part of their business so their not going to throw 50 mill let's say to pay off capcom but M$ has less assets so its money can be more distributed to xbox

[QUOTE="stiltzsy"][QUOTE="badbaackwards"][QUOTE="stiltzsy"]

[QUOTE="badbaackwards"]money wise microsoft might have more i dont know, but sony is a larger companybadbaackwards

Market value ms is the 7th largest company. Sony is no where near the top 10 (I think)

when i said sony was a larger company i didnt' mean market value i meant assets like what owned

What good does that do? But Market value does factor that in to a degree. Plus we are talking about payola to companies to keep stuff on the 360 and away from the PS3. How does owning a TV mfg plant help them pay off capcom? When M$ has money just sitting there that they need to spend.

true say but they also own movie studios and recording studios which give them money to pay off capcom. The way I see it is they just see ps3 as a small part of their business so their not going to throw 50 mill let's say to pay off capcom but M$ has less assets so its money can be more distributed to xbox

Wow you really don't have a clue on this do you. I'm not going to try and educate you on it....if you really want to learn the info is out there.

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

excelR83

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

[QUOTE="Verge_6"]Okay, quick question. Do the public schools of America teach economics or business classes anymore? My private schools did, but this thread is showing me some...disturbing possibilities.sonicmj1

But isn't it good business to not spend money towards gaining a competitive advantage? :|

Srsly?

EDIT: NVM, my sarcasm meter just started beeping, it was a few minutes late.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

heretrix

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

players don't need games devs or comapnies, game companies need the players!!!!! we make them we can break them!!!

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Actually I am dead serious. I didn't even know it was debatable. It is well-known and well-documented that Microsoft would rather pay for something than create it. This isn't some conspiracy theory attack plan, it is how they conduct business. It works for them, obviously, so kudos to them, but I find it kind of pathetic.

Please, set me straight with some of your usual faux-bipartisan nonsense.

Verge_6

Anyone who thinks that Microsoft seriously hasn't come up with a single original product is not worth debating with.

LOL yeah, I want to debate with you. You have so much substance and character I can't help but bandy words about with you.

Tell us about how you're one of those guys who says "I will buy a PS3 when..." to appear bipartisan again, mkay?

Microsoft's whole business empire is the corporate equivalent of American settlers giving out small-pox blankets :)

Try and figure out whether I'm serious. :lol:

I wouldn't be surprised in the least to find this rumor was in part Capcom trying to milk some money out of Sony. They can say "hey either give us money like MS or we go timed exclusive......just look at the reaction to the rumor and notice how gamers reacted".

MS is really throwing money around and 3rd party is really eating it up. I'm not sure what I think of this.....I for sure know 3rd party developers know once something is timed, it will hurt the sales of the console it is late too. That money they are getting from MS has to be significant for Square and Capcom to be doing this.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

Actually I am dead serious. I didn't even know it was debatable. It is well-known and well-documented that Microsoft would rather pay for something than create it. This isn't some conspiracy theory attack plan, it is how they conduct business. It works for them, obviously, so kudos to them, but I find it kind of pathetic.

Please, set me straight with some of your usual faux-bipartisan nonsense.

excelR83

Anyone who thinks that Microsoft seriously hasn't come up with a single original product is not worth debating with.

LOL yeah, I want to debate with you. You have so much substance and character I can't help but bandy words about with you.

Tell us about how you're one of those guys who says "I will buy a PS3 when..." to appear bipartisan again, mkay?

Microsoft's whole business empire is the corporate equivalent of American settlers giving out small-pox blankets :)

Try and figure out whether I'm serious. :lol:

I just find it amusing how the pillar of American business, Microsoft, hasn't created a single original thing in their entire lifespan. They wait until someone else takes a risk, and then copy it. Yeah it pays off, but it makes me disgusted with humanity. Go USA! Throw money at problems until they go away. excelR83

This could be said of the Japanese also.

Sony, a Japanese company, did not create the television or modern electronic appliances, yet to many people they are the first brand that comes to mind

Nintendo, Sony, Sega etc, all Japanese companies did not create the videogame industry, yet many misguided people think they did.

what is your point? MS is just doing what every big successful companies do, latch on to a trend and develop their spin on it.

BUSINESS 101.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

heretrix

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

Shush, let him live in his little world where Microsoft is the equivalent of the Catholic Church in medieval times and Sony is a corporate saint.

[QUOTE="excelR83"]

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

heretrix

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

Sony bought timed exclusivity for an unproven franchise like GTA3 was at that point in time? Link please?

Maybe the PS2 was absolutely dominant last-gen and it made sense to develop for the platform that makes money. The 360 isn't at that level.

We know these are good business practices, in the interest of making money, but that doesn't mean we have to like them or how it affects us as gamers.

You community-college-educated economists are really blowing everyone's minds, though. Keep it up. Tell us more about Adam Smith :lol:

I didn't know which version i was going to get anyway, so if this is true i'll be getting the 360 version.

As a gamer, i couldn't give a crap about a companies business directions, but there are times when i get annoyed at stuff like this. It could be Microsoft, Sony or Nintendo, but i think buying exclusivity over a multiplat title is annoying. Whether it is full exclusivity, timed exclusive, or exclusive content. It only really annoys me when a game like RE5, which has been multiplat for so long suddenly becomes a timed exclusive.

It's a smart business move, and it doesn't affect me, but when i think of all the one console only owners who get screwed over by deals like these, it makes me mad.

They are fanboys thats all and to hate MS is like the cool thing you know?xscrapzx

Not really I want all people to get to enjoy RE5 on launch fanboys are the ones who praise this crap. There are just as many lemming fanboys who hate on Sony.

[QUOTE="bstarter29"]I doubt it. Capcom is too big of a company to play by childish rules like that. It could potentially damage the sales of millions of copies of RE 5. HarlockJC

It almost free cash. Make it come to the 360 one month before the PS3 and we will give 20 million.

I would rather they spend that money on more games. But I can understand why they would at least try.

According to 3rd party developers, releasing a game at different times on different consoles will hurt sales tremendously. That's the excuse most are using for going multiplat for most titles......and why they were delaying their titles last year because the PS3 wasn't ready. IF they released it on the X360 only and then the PS3 when it was ready....sales would be horrid on the PS3. The problem is very similar to DVD New Releases......once a title is old no one cares. When Transformers comes to Blu-ray for instance, no one is really going to care because the new movie Iron Man will be coming out.

If you get a delay for the PS3 of any significance, the sales will drop off tremendously.

:lol: this look like a economic class...

Unless MS is forking over 50 mil, Capcom will most likely make more money by keeping it multiplatform.Zoso-8

They'll make their money on other platforms regardless. Those that own a non-360 aren't going to give up their console when they don't get their game, they'll wait & then buy it when they have a release. So for Capcom, it's adding several extra million on top of a cash cow. Why would anyone turn that down?

Probably Nintendo will come out to delay the release of RE 5 for the Wii after the 360 release. PS3 gets their RE 5 a year late.

*snicker*

If true, this is one more reason for a lot of people to hate MS. I could understand them paying for exclusive extra content, but paying to have the game time exclusive is a crime for a lot of PS3 owners only that are so eagerly waiting for this game, myself included.lusitanogamer

yeah because sony never did anything like that :roll:

It's a smart business move, and it doesn't affect me, but when i think of all the one console only owners who get screwed over by deals like these, it makes me mad.

SSJ_Nega

I can sympathize with this line of reasoning much more than people who say that it's somehow evil or immoral to do those things.

It doesn't bother me too much now that I have all the consoles, but it can be rough for people who want certain games, and can't get them due to exclusivity deals. Timed exclusives aren't so bad about this, though, because at least they reach the platform at some point.

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

excelR83

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

Sony bought timed exclusivity for an unproven franchise like GTA3 was at that point in time? Link please?

Maybe the PS2 was absolutely dominant last-gen and it made sense to develop for the platform that makes money. The 360 isn't at that level.

We know these are good business practices, in the interest of making money, but that doesn't mean we have to like them or how it affects us as gamers.

You community-college-educated economists are really blowing everyone's minds, though. Keep it up. Tell us more about Adam Smith :lol:

[QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

Verge_6

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

Shush, let him live in his little world where Microsoft is the equivalent of the Catholic Church in medieval times and Sony is a corporate saint.

Sony is hardly an angel, but I find it laughable that you can even compare the two in terms of despicable business practices. It is well-documented how Microsoft got to where it is.

All big business are despicable, but Microsoft absolutely rewrites the game when it comes to buyouts, hostile takeovers, freezeouts, outright intellectual property theft...

Sony is Japanese and Japanese businesses still operate under some kind of code of conduct that prohibits them from being outright sleazeballs. Maybe if they weren't held in place by local traditions and given free reign, they would be as bad as MS. I just don't think they are.

Anyway I really don't care about Sony as a company. I like the Playstation brand for what it has brought me over the years. Love your 360, but I don't see how you can defend the company behind it. Saying MS is "only as bad as the next guy" is like saying several people died in the holocaust.

[QUOTE="Zoso-8"]Unless MS is forking over 50 mil, Capcom will most likely make more money by keeping it multiplatform.jknight5422

They'll make their money on other platforms regardless. Those that own a non-360 aren't going to give up their console when they don't get their game, they'll wait & then buy it when they have a release. So for Capcom, it's adding several extra million on top of a cash cow. Why would anyone turn that down?

Probably Nintendo will come out to delay the release of RE 5 for the Wii after the 360 release. PS3 gets their RE 5 a year late.

*snicker*

That's wrong, it does hurt sales when you do timed exclusives. Why else would their be a need to PAY for it? I was in a gaming conference last year and sales reps for a lot of the 3rd party companies told me it's extremely important to not only release X360 and PS3 at the same time, but it's very important to make sure the game plays exactly the same (usually meaning graphics). Any delay will hurt sales alot.....I know this from experience as I run a lot of rental locations.

[QUOTE="excelR83"][QUOTE="heretrix"][QUOTE="excelR83"]

Ah, good old Microsoft. Their company ideals of "why develop or create something when you can pay someone else that has already done the legwork" is just inspiring to behold. The way they throw money around and slander their opponents is truly American, and makes me want to collect unemployment while I sit on my ass.

Has Microsoft or anyone under the employ of Microsoft ever actually had an original thought? This buying exclusives thing is really getting ridiculous.

Seriously though if this is true I will be too livid for words.

Microsoft: Step to the plate and get one of your multimillionaire-salaried employees to use his overeducated brain to develop an ORIGINAL IP. BRAWN > BRAIN, you go MS!

heretrix

People need to stop crying about stuff like this. Welcome to the real world. This happens all the time in it. It's called BUSINESS.

I'm amazed that so many people throw around sales numbers and other business topics, yet don't understand the basics of the simplest of business practices in this industry: Securing content for your platform

People complain about MS buying games, what the hell do you think Sony did when they first launched the playstation.

The Wipeout developers were at one time my favorite developers in the Amiga era-PSYGNOSIS. Now known as Sony Liverpool

They also bought Evolution studios (Motorstorm) and Guerilla..What's the problem with that?

Sony bought timed exclusivity for an unproven franchise like GTA3 was at that point in time? Link please?

Maybe the PS2 was absolutely dominant last-gen and it made sense to develop for the platform that makes money. The 360 isn't at that level.

We know these are good business practices, in the interest of making money, but that doesn't mean we have to like them or how it affects us as gamers.

You community-college-educated economists are really blowing everyone's minds, though. Keep it up. Tell us more about Adam Smith :lol:

Yes, it's so obvious that I've said exactly that several times in the course of my posts here. It's all to throw you off my trail!

Gogo DeVry institute.

I will boil this thread down. People are possibly getting ****ed over, so we are complaining about it. When the government bumps taxes up do you complain and commiserate with the rest of us working saps, or do you expound at length about how our taxes are put to good use and it just makes sense from a business standpoint?

Sometimes you just have to STFU and go with the flow.

Knowing intellectually that buying exclusive property makes sense and accepting it without question are two different things. Emotions are involved. I don't want to buy a 360. Most of my friends have one and I'm truly not missing anything (except for maybe N+, that game is addictive!) If I miss Res Evil 5, or have to wait months for it because MS threw money at them and money is more important than us gamers that get caught in between, I don't have to be rational about it.

The point is that most of us like to complain when we are getting hooped, and nobody likes the "voice of reason" to come along and tell you that you really should have been home more often and that's why your girlfriend slept with your brother.

Bottomline of this argument. Multiplatform games sell more on 360. Capcom would not lose out on this deal so if it was offered thats how it will be.rzepak

They sell more than they do as PS3 exclusives, but not when they are released on both platforms. Think before you speak.

Res Evil on 360: Lots of sales.

Res Evil on PS3: Less sales.

Res Evil on BOTH: Lots + Less = More than Lots.

Well if this is true I guess I won't be playing this when it comes out, I refuse to buy that hunk of junk.DaBrainz

did the 360 kick your dog or something?

Yes, it's so obvious that I've said exactly that several times in the course of my posts here. It's all to throw you off my trail!

Gogo DeVry institute.

I will boil this thread down. People are possibly getting ****ed over, so we are complaining about it. When the government bumps taxes up do you complain and commiserate with the rest of us working saps, or do you expound at length about how our taxes are put to good use and it just makes sense from a business standpoint?

Sometimes you just have to STFU and go with the flow.

Knowing intellectually that buying exclusive property makes sense and accepting it without question are two different things. Emotions are involved. I don't want to buy a 360. Most of my friends have one and I'm truly not missing anything (except for maybe N+, that game is addictive!) If I miss Res Evil 5, or have to wait months for it because MS threw money at them and money is more important than us gamers that get caught in between, I don't have to be rational about it.

The point is that most of us like to complain when we are getting hooped, and nobody likes the "voice of reason" to come along and tell you that you really should have been home more often and that's why your girlfriend slept with your brother.

excelR83

If true, chalk this up as another W for 360 owners

and another L for PS3 owners

Sony is hardly an angel, but I find it laughable that you can even compare the two in terms of despicable business practices. It is well-documented how Microsoft got to where it is.

All big business are despicable, but Microsoft absolutely rewrites the game when it comes to buyouts, hostile takeovers, freezeouts, outright intellectual property theft...

Sony is Japanese and Japanese businesses still operate under some kind of code of conduct that prohibits them from being outright sleazeballs. Maybe if they weren't held in place by local traditions and given free reign, they would be as bad as MS. I just don't think they are.

Anyway I really don't care about Sony as a company. I like the Playstation brand for what it has brought me over the years. Love your 360, but I don't see how you can defend the company behind it. Saying MS is "only as bad as the next guy" is like saying several people died in the holocaust.

excelR83

Sorny stole the Nintendo game console right out from under them which allowed them to produce the first Playstation & produce a wrecking ball on Nintendo's profits & destroying Sega entirely. So I'd just release that blame game trigger at Mr. Softy if I were you there buddy. Go check your history lessons. MS is totally as "bad as the next guy". They're not some how a "greater evil" over Sorny. It's just a bigger fish getting into the market. Which is EXACTLY what Sorny did to Nintendo back in the early 90's. If you ask me, it's deliverance of a severely owed come-uppance to the Sorny empire. Outright and deserved ownage. So I wouldn't see a reason to hate Mr. Softy for playing dirty tricks. Sorny wrote the playbook for that.

Likewise, if it wasn't for the Xbox & Halo 2, I would still have been a hermit today, rather than even considering consoles and their games.

Yep MS are scum. They really think that they can plug up the hole of their sinking ship by throwing money at it? MS are comparable to oil companies. Pure Scum.Cbok

these comments always make me laugh

Yep MS are scum. They really think that they can plug up the hole of their sinking ship by throwing money at it? MS are comparable to oil companies. Pure Scum.Cbok