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#451 Burnsmiesta
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[QUOTE="Silverbond"]

This sticky is totally unnecessary. It's not exclusive, end of story.

Soulja_West

If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.



Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]IGN says that they are different. Its an exclusive sorry.Stevo_the_gamer
Is Ninja Gaiden Sigma exclusive? :|

When they reviewd NGS did they say that the two games were different or the same?
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If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.Soulja_West

What exactly makes it an exclusive? What about the PS3 version aside from graphics isn't available in the PS2 and PSP experiences?

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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]IGN says that they are different. Its an exclusive sorry.Stevo_the_gamer
Is Ninja Gaiden Sigma exclusive? :|



20% difference in content leads me to believe yes.

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#455 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="Silverbond"]

This sticky is totally unnecessary. It's not exclusive, end of story.

Burnsmiesta

If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.



Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.

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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.foxhound_fox


What exactly makes it an exclusive? What about the PS3 version aside from graphics isn't available in the PS2 and PSP experiences?

Go read the IGN review then get back at me.

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#457 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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When they reviewd NGS did they say that the two games were different or the same? Soulja_West
Is it, or no? Should I explain to you why it's not an exclusive? :|
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#458 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]When they reviewd NGS did they say that the two games were different or the same? Stevo_the_gamer
Is it, or no? Should I explain to you why it's not an exclusive? :|

Answer my question then I'll answer yours.
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#459 Silverbond
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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"] If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.Soulja_West



Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.

How much of a difference is there?

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#460 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]This is in FACT an exclusive.Soulja_West
*sigh* You can't be serious. :|

IGN says that they are different. Its an exclusive sorry.

Oh we are on IGN, sorry. I though we are on Gamespot.

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#461 GeoffZak
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I love MLB09 The Show. It's such a superb game,I almost bought Killzone 2 instead of this. Good thing I waited, money well spent.

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The never ending debate!
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#463 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Go read the IGN review then get back at me.Soulja_West
Already have. And it's not an exclusive -- they stated the following differences: different controls (with difficulty involved within those controls), better technical aspects of the game, and additional content. The core substance of the game itself has not been changed between the PS2 version and the PS3 version, it's still a MLB the Show title. Different controls, added content, better sound and visuals does not dictate a game's exclusivity... otherwise Ninja Gaiden Sigma would be exclusive. And it's most certainly NOT.
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#464 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] *sigh* You can't be serious. :|Chaos_HL21

IGN says that they are different. Its an exclusive sorry.

Oh we are on IGN, sorry. I though we are on Gamespot.

So now were not using IGN anymore? We've been using that site. They've played both and I take their word over anyones here.
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#465 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"][QUOTE="Stevo_the_gamer"] *sigh* You can't be serious. :|Chaos_HL21

IGN says that they are different. Its an exclusive sorry.

Oh we are on IGN, sorry. I though we are on Gamespot.

Would you mind pointing us to the Gamespot PS2 review?
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#466 shadowcat2576
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So much for thinking this issue was solved back with NG:Sigma.

NG:Sigma was decided not to be an exclusive based on the fact that the majority of it's content was already in NG:Black.

GRAW was named exclusive primarily for the switch from TPS to FPS. I don't even play shooters, and I would agree that this is a huge difference.

Dead Rising: I don't know why there wasn't more discussing of its exclusivity when the Wii version was released. Personally I would lean more on the side of it now being multiplat.

In spiteof the fact that the PS2 and PSP versions may be lesser quality, they still exist. They are still primarily the same game, therefore they are multiplat. As someone else said, if this were not the case, why was this not an issue with MLB: the Show games in prior years.

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#467 SUD123456
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The whole point of exclusive is the premise that an exclusive provides a reason to buy one single h/w platform, and no other platform.

Example: L4D. If you have a PC and play PC games, there is no reason to believe you should buy a 360 for this game. If you have a 360, there is no reason to believe you will buy a PC for this game. If you have both, you aren't going to buy any new h/w at all. And if you have neither, this particular game won't sway you either way because it is available on both.

If you own a PS2, there is no added reason to buy a PS3 because of MLB: 09. You can buy it and play it on your PS2. If you don't own either a PS2 or a PS3 (or PSP), there is no clear incentive to pick either a PS2 or PS3.....you will do so for other reasons...not this game.

This is the whole point of the term exclusive in SWs. And this is why MLB: 09 is not an exclusive.

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#468 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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Answer my question then I'll answer yours.Soulja_West
You're grasping at straws, mate.
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#469 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]

Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

Silverbond

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.

How much of a difference is there?

Go read the review and find out.

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#470 MasteRich
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Who cares, it would make sense knowing a Sony-exclusive game would be going to more than one Sony console. We can say it is a Sony exclusive. Not a big fan of baseball but nice to see another sports game get a good score. NHL 09 is still fun.
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#471 darkslider99
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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"] If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.Soulja_West



Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.

First off, we go by GS reviews, not IGNs. Although some have debated switching, we have always stayed with GS. So thatmeans we don't get to change our opinion to fit with IGN on certain things when it fits our argument. Also, even if their different, that doesn't mean their exclusive. That's moronic. That would mean that SCIV is an exclusive. The games need to be drasticaly different. Improved graphics, and a few added features means nothing. Ghost Recon: Advance War Fighter isa prime example of a game which is on multi. consoles, but is considered exclusive on PC, and exclusive on 360, due to them sharing nothing short of a name.

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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]Answer my question then I'll answer yours.Stevo_the_gamer
You're grasping at straws, mate.

You're scared to answer my question sport.
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#473 foxhound_fox
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Go read the IGN review then get back at me.Soulja_West

No thanks, you have to prove why you think it is exclusive. Telling me to go and read something doesn't prove anything... only that you are just repeating someone else's ideas.

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#474 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Would you mind pointing us to the Gamespot PS2 review?

Would you please point out the major differences between the two titles which change the core substance of the game itself to make the PS3 version exclusive?
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#475 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]

Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

darkslider99

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.

First off, we go by GS reviews, not IGNs. Although some have debated switching, we have always stayed with GS. So thatmeans we don't get to change our opinion to fit with IGN on certain things when it fits our argument. Also, even if their different, that doesn't mean their exclusive. That's moronic. That would mean that SCIV is an exclusive. The games need to be drasticaly different. Improved graphics, and a few added features means nothing. Ghost Recon: Advance War Fighter isa prime example of a game which is on multi. consoles, but is considered exclusive on PC, and exclusive on 360, due to them sharing nothing short of a name.

People here have been using IGN. I'm going by IGN for now because GS hasn't review the PS2 nor the PSP version.

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#476 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]Go read the IGN review then get back at me.Stevo_the_gamer
Already have. And it's not an exclusive -- they stated the following differences: different controls (with difficulty involved within those controls), better technical aspects of the game, and additional content. The core substance of the game itself has not been changed between the PS2 version and the PS3 version, it's still a MLB the Show title. Different controls, added content, better sound and visuals does not dictate a game's exclusivity... otherwise Ninja Gaiden Sigma would be exclusive. And it's most certainly NOT.

lol its baseball...no way to change that...unless it motion controlled baseball, which it isnt.

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#477 II_Seraphim_II
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Unless there is a discernable difference in gameplay between the 2 games, it is not an exclusive. So if its generally the same experience, but one version happens to have worse graphics or something like that, its not an exclusive. On the other hand, lets say we have LBP and then LBP for PSP comes out, but there is a stock amount of items to make levels, you cant create your own. The levels have to be much smaller, there is no hardcore physics based gameplay like in LBP, then we can consider PS3's LBP an exclusive because the PSP version is so gimped and different, that they might as well be different games in the same series.
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#478 Burnsmiesta
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[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"] If it was unnecessary then this thread wouldn't have never been edited to exclusive or not exclusive. This is in FACT an exclusive.Soulja_West



Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.



I guess I'll go play that exclusive game GTAIV on my 360 then.

You see how ridiculous this is. And we are on GS too not IGN.

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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]Go read the IGN review then get back at me.foxhound_fox


No thanks, you have to prove why you think it is exclusive. Telling me to go and read something doesn't prove anything... only that you are just repeating someone else's ideas.

Go view my previous post then get back at me. It should explain why I think its an exclusive.

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#480 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="Burnsmiesta"]

Its not an exclusive. End of.
You do realise each every person stating this game is exclusive is just fuelling the lemming argument for 360/PC games.

Burnsmiesta

IGN says the PS2 version and PS3 version are different. Its an exclusive. END OF DISCUSSION.



I guess I'll go play that exclusive game GTAIV on my 360 then.

You see how ridiculous this is. And we are on GS too not IGN.

Read my previous post.

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#481 DBhova23
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If it can't be played on a system/console that is in the same gen. then it is exclusive. MLB (PS3 version) is exclusive to the ps3 because 360, PC, and Wii cant play it. MLB (ps2 version) is exclusive to the ps2 because xbox, gamecube and dreamcast cant play it. MLB (psp version) is exclusive to the psp because it cant be played on the DS.
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[QUOTE="Eddie-Vedder"] Would you mind pointing us to the Gamespot PS2 review?Stevo_the_gamer
Would you please point out the major differences between the two titles which change the core substance of the game itself to make the PS3 version exclusive?

Go read the review.
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#484 Chaos_HL21
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So now were not using IGN anymore? We've been using that site. They've played both and I take their word over anyones here.Soulja_West

We are on Gamespot, only Gamespot matters. If you want to take IGN's word over anyone here. Here is a place to do it at.

Would you mind pointing us to the Gamespot PS2 review?Eddie-Vedder

So what does that have to do about anything? Gamespot is slow at reviewing games, and just because they did not review the PS2 one does not make it a PS3 exclusive.

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Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

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lol its baseball...no way to change that...unless it motion controlled baseball, which it isnt.Kahuna_1
There's differences between the Show titles and 2K sports; with that said, the game still feels and plays like it's a MLB the Show title, even though it's showing it age as stated by the IGN review, the differences between the two titles are dismal at best.
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#487 horrowhip
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Go read the review and find out.

Soulja_West

I did.

Wanna know what I read?

The games are the same.

Differences include:

Technical Issues on PS2 version(bugs, AI, collision detection, etc.)

Easier to check swing on PS2(although no explanation is given why other than "it seemd like it was easier"

Worse online play on PS2(due to lag)...

Not a different game. No matter how you spin it the fact that both games have the same controls(beyond supposedly easier check swing), same game modes, and same gameplay makes it NOT EXCLUSIVE.

But you didn't take the time to read the last couple of pages so why would anyone expect you to know we already went over this.

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#488 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

[QUOTE="darkslider99"] First off, we go by GS reviews, not IGNs. Although some have debated switching, we have always stayed with GS. So thatmeans we don't get to change our opinion to fit with IGN on certain things when it fits our argument. Also, even if their different, that doesn't mean their exclusive. That's moronic. That would mean that SCIV is an exclusive. The games need to be drasticaly different. Improved graphics, and a few added features means nothing. Ghost Recon: Advance War Fighter isa prime example of a game which is on multi. consoles, but is considered exclusive on PC, and exclusive on 360, due to them sharing nothing short of a name.

People here have been using IGN. I'm going by IGN for now because GS hasn't review the PS2 nor the PSP version.

Good job on avoiding everything else I said. Even if IGN said it's differnet, ti doesn't make it exclusive. Stop trolling, that's all you're doing now. Whining it's exclusive, and when we disagree and we ask for evidence, you tellus to find it yourself. You're a laughing joke. Everyone here thinks you're a fool. Either offer up some quotes from the IGN review showing they are drastically different, or keep your mouth shut and stop trolling.

Yes it is. If its an different game then it is an exclusive. Get over it.
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Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

Animal-Mother
GRAW is entirely different from it's counterparts, the only thing they share is the same name. Comparing this to GRAW is laughable.
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#490 Soulja_West
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[QUOTE="horrowhip"]

[QUOTE="Soulja_West"]

Go read the review and find out.

I did.

Wanna know what I read?

The games are the same.

Differences include:

Technical Issues on PS2 version(bugs, AI, collision detection, etc.)

Easier to check swing on PS2(although no explanation is given why other than "it seemd like it was easier"

Worse online play on PS2(due to lag)...

Not a different game. No matter how you spin it the fact that both games have the same controls(beyond supposedly easier check swing), same game modes, and same gameplay makes it NOT EXCLUSIVE.

But you didn't take the time to read the last couple of pages so why would anyone expect you to know we already went over this.

Its exclusive sorry. crying want make it none exclusive.
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#491 darkslider99
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Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

Animal-Mother
GRAW? as in Ghost REcon? IT is exclusive, because it is drastically different. And Dead Space isn't considered exclusive...and MGS4..? What ? It's on PS3 only, or is their another version I'm unaware of?
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#492 Kahuna_1
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[QUOTE="Kahuna_1"]lol its baseball...no way to change that...unless it motion controlled baseball, which it isnt.Stevo_the_gamer
There's differences between the Show titles and 2K sports; with that said, the game still feels and plays like it's a MLB the Show title, even though it's showing it age as stated by the IGN review, the differences between the two titles are dismal at best.

Yeah, you are right, forgot that 2k plays like garbage. All this talk about MLB 09 makes me want to go play it now.

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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

Stevo_the_gamer
GRAW is entirely different from it's counterparts, the only thing they share is the same name. Comparing this to GRAW is laughable.

Why because it has one different mission? and a FPS aspect?
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#494 horrowhip
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Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

Animal-Mother

Actually flip that.

MLB 08: The Show was/is not an exclusive. All year it has been considered multiplat.

So why would MLB 09: The Show be exclusive when the changes were made to both the PS3 and PS2 versions of the game?

Because you cows want another PS3 exclusive. Should have fought to have MLB 08: The Show as an exclusive if you really wanted to consider any of them exclusive.

Your argument fails.

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#495 Chaos_HL21
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

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GRAW? as in Ghost REcon? IT is exclusive, because it is drastically different. And Dead Space isn't considered exclusive...and MGS4..? What ? It's on PS3 only, or is their another version I'm unaware of?

I think he is talking about MGS 4 on the Iphone, which really makes that point crazy.

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#496 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

darkslider99
GRAW? as in Ghost REcon? IT is exclusive, because it is drastically different. And Dead Space isn't considered exclusive...and MGS4..? What ? It's on PS3 only, or is their another version I'm unaware of?

Well people are unaware of the Iphone version, and I meant to say Dead Rising
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#497 Furbyballistik
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heres my 2 cents. when we compare A+ games on here, we use the PS3, Wii, 360, n PC. i havnt seen the PSP or PS2 used in that debate. since MLB is on the PS3 and NOT on any other platform SW compares the current A+ games to, shouldnt we consider it exclusive in that regard? even if not exclusive, it should still be considered a AAA for ps3, unless if we were to start using the ps2, xbox, gamecube, psp, n DS in our AAA arguments again.....right?
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#499 Animal-Mother
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[QUOTE="darkslider99"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

Ok Im gonna say it like this, The lemmings didnt care before the game even came out if it was exclusive or not. Now that the PS3 has caught up their running scared to find excuses. But If this game is NOT exclusive. that emans Graw is no longer exclusive along with MGS4 and Dead Space

Chaos_HL21

GRAW? as in Ghost REcon? IT is exclusive, because it is drastically different. And Dead Space isn't considered exclusive...and MGS4..? What ? It's on PS3 only, or is their another version I'm unaware of?

I think he is talking about MGS 4 on the Iphone, which really makes that point crazy.

Well is it going to be playable on something other than the PS3. Though it has one different mechanic?
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#500 Eddie-Vedder
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[QUOTE="Soulja_West"] So now were not using IGN anymore? We've been using that site. They've played both and I take their word over anyones here.Chaos_HL21

We are on Gamespot, only Gamespot matters. If you want to take IGN's word over anyone here. Here is a place to do it at.

Would you mind pointing us to the Gamespot PS2 review?Eddie-Vedder

So what does that have to do about anything? Gamespot is slow at reviewing games, and just because they did not review the PS2 one does not make it a PS3 exclusive.

Are you joking? Someone showed you IGN proving that the PS3 and PS2 version are not the same, you say "I though we were on Gamespot" GS didn't review the PS2 game! How else are we going to see if the are the same game?