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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Again, if that's the only complaint you have, I feel sorry for you. Missing out on a good game just because it doesn't have the same combinations from the original. You should stop looking at the past. If you can't, I suggest you go back and play MK2. Mystery_Writer

So basically you wanted a game were every single character has the SAME EXACT MOVE SET, but only differ in their few special moves and can not land more than a 3 hit combo unless you are in the corner?

Because that is exactly what MK2 is. MK1 and MK2 were both pitiful excuses for fighting games. Luckily, I was in middle school when they came out so I was impressionable enough to enjoy them for the blue screen graphics and over the top gore. Outside of that they were about as shallow as your typical flash games. MK3 took it to a new level with the run mechanic and dial-a-combo system and as broken as it was (in every version available) it was still fun and actually had a few layers of depth instead of the first two games.

Now they make by far the best battle system in a MK game to date, take it back to 2d fighting, get rid of all the crap that clogged the later games, bring back the best characters, the old stages, the old type of story, load you down with content, and all you do is **** and moan?

You are not a fan AT ALL, but rather some child that cant appreciate a good thing when its right in his face. They took the best possible direction they could with this game and all you want is a glorified remake of a simplistic game that wouldn't sell for more than 5 bucks in today's market. You would be impossible to please and I am glad that Netherrealm ignores gamers like you.

I do feel sorry for you.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"][QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]Again, if that's the only complaint you have, I feel sorry for you. Missing out on a good game just because it doesn't have the same combinations from the original. You should stop looking at the past. If you can't, I suggest you go back and play MK2. sandbox3d

So basically you wanted a game were every single character has the SAME EXACT MOVE SET, but only differ in their few special moves and can not land more than a 3 hit combo unless you are in the corner?

Because that is exactly what MK2 is. MK1 and MK2 were both pitiful excuses for fighting games. Luckily, I was in middle school when they came out so I was impressionable enough to enjoy them for the blue screen graphics and over the top gore. Outside of that they were about as shallow as your typical flash games. MK3 took it to a new level with the run mechanic and dial-a-combo system and as broken as it was (in every version available) it was still fun and actually had a few layers of depth instead of the first two games.

Now they make by far the best battle system in a MK game to date, take it back to 2d fighting, get rid of all the crap that clogged the later games, bring back the best characters, the old stages, the old type of story, load you down with content, and all you do is **** and moan?

You are not a fan AT ALL, but rather some child that cant appreciate a good thing when its right in his face. They took the best possible direction they could with this game and all you want is a glorified remake of a simplistic game that wouldn't sell for more than 5 bucks in today's market. You would be impossible to please and I am glad that Netherrealm ignores gamers like you.

I do feel sorry for you.

Ouch! So harsh, yet so true lol. I suggest people go back and try to play MK2 after playing this game. The game would not have survived had it not been for the graphics and gore as you said. I play MK and MK2 sometimes, but purely for nostalgia. UMK3 was the only one of the old games I could actually enjoy, but now that MK9 is out I doubt I could even go back to that. This is the definitive MK game. They took all the best aspects of the old games, mixed them together and added a few new twists. I cant believe anyone claiming to be a fan could complain.

Quick change of topic, but I was letting my little sister play a beginner ladder and I went to go make a sammich. She came running out of the room a minute later saying she unlocked a hidden fight. I thought she was just confused, but sure enough I went to check and she was facing off against a cIassic looking Noob with extremely difficult AI.

Anyone know how this happened? Shes just a kid so she couldnt really explain what she did and now I'm lost on how to get back to that fight.

[QUOTE="sandbox3d"]

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] It seems you wanted to play a new fighting game, and you got that with this installment. My warning wasn't addressing you, nor to new comers to the series. I'm warning MK2 fans out there that this isn't what most reviewers hyped it up to be "true to its roots" come back. So please take your "feeling sorry" and bother someone else with your cynicism.Wiimotefan

So basically you wanted a game were every single character has the SAME EXACT MOVE SET, but only differ in their few special moves and can not land more than a 3 hit combo unless you are in the corner?

Because that is exactly what MK2 is. MK1 and MK2 were both pitiful excuses for fighting games. Luckily, I was in middle school when they came out so I was impressionable enough to enjoy them for the blue screen graphics and over the top gore. Outside of that they were about as shallow as your typical flash games. MK3 took it to a new level with the run mechanic and dial-a-combo system and as broken as it was (in every version available) it was still fun and actually had a few layers of depth instead of the first two games.

Now they make by far the best battle system in a MK game to date, take it back to 2d fighting, get rid of all the crap that clogged the later games, bring back the best characters, the old stages, the old type of story, load you down with content, and all you do is **** and moan?

You are not a fan AT ALL, but rather some child that cant appreciate a good thing when its right in his face. They took the best possible direction they could with this game and all you want is a glorified remake of a simplistic game that wouldn't sell for more than 5 bucks in today's market. You would be impossible to please and I am glad that Netherrealm ignores gamers like you.

I do feel sorry for you.

Ouch! So harsh, yet so true lol. I suggest people go back and try to play MK2 after playing this game. The game would not have survived had it not been for the graphics and gore as you said. I play MK and MK2 sometimes, but purely for nostalgia. UMK3 was the only one of the old games I could actually enjoy, but now that MK9 is out I doubt I could even go back to that. This is the definitive MK game. They took all the best aspects of the old games, mixed them together and added a few new twists. I cant believe anyone claiming to be a fan could complain.

Quick change of topic, but I was letting my little sister play a beginner ladder and I went to go make a sammich. She came running out of the room a minute later saying she unlocked a hidden fight. I thought she was just confused, but sure enough I went to check and she was facing off against a cIassic looking Noob with extremely difficult AI.

Anyone know how this happened? Shes just a kid so she couldnt really explain what she did and now I'm lost on how to get back to that fight.

Check here on Gamefaqs for the "secret" character fight requirements, among other things.

I didn't test any of them, so I apologize if they don't work.

36%

29%

26%

5%

3%
This stuff sucks

lol, IGN has a poll and the answers are yes, not yet but I will, and no and I won't, yet this is what shows after I vote :P.

Check here on Gamefaqs for the "secret" character fight requirements, among other things.

I didn't test any of them, so I apologize if they don't work.

sandbox3d

Thanks, I'll give it a shot.

To Wiimotefan, sandbox3d, and the others,

To be honest, I don't know what you're not getting, the legitimacy of my complain, or the complain itself.

I'll start with the complain itself; I'll give an example to clarify it. What do you think pro SF2 or Tekken fans would feel if Capcom / Namco decided to keep the moves (staying true to the franchise), but just simply change the button sequence of execution?

Your logic: it's trivial, I don't mind, I'll learn them again.

My logic: it's not fine, there is a lot of time invested in learning those moves along with their button sequences, if you're staying true to the original series by keeping the moves, why not keep the button sequence of execution (for those particular moves) and add whatever new mechanics / combos/ etc.. on top of it (like the case with SF / Tekken)?

Again, let's clarify the logic so you won't come back thinking I'm objecting because I need a plain MK2 game. I'm fine with change, but it needs to be similar to how SF series progressed. I don't want to keep investing time learning different button sequences for the same move every time a new installment released (which is literally the case with MK series after MK4).

Hope the above clarifies the complain.

Now if you're not getting the legitimacy of my complain. As in, you understand I'm not looking for exact copy of MK2, but still think why should anyone be upset if his/her favorite fighting game kept changing the moves button sequence and/or fighting mechanices on each and every installment, then my answer is; I believe you're wrong, as alienating pro fans is not an intelligent way of dealing with a fighting franchise.

SF2 kept the old button sequence (for pro fans sake), Same is the case with the Tekken series. (except Tekken 4, when they tinkered just a little with the mechanics and fans complained so they returned it to what it was in the following installments).

So if you think that's not a legitimate complain, I can't help you there. It's my taste against yours. But I won't feel sorry for you when you spend time on this MK installment only to find the next one changes the move set & fighting mechanics all together :)

For me, I learned my lesson with the MK series and I choose not to invest time on this one. And I'm also warning "intellectual" pro fans about what to expect with this one. So don't get upset / feel sorry (as i can't help u if u do) about my choice or warning, just go enjoy your new MK game and let me practice my "free speech" about it :P

To Wiimotefan, sandbox3d, and the others,

To be honest, I don't know what you're not getting, the legitimacy of my complain, or the complain itself.

I'll start with the complain itself; I'll give an example to clarify it. What do you think pro SF2 or Tekken fans would feel if Capcom / Namco decided to keep the moves (staying true to the franchise), but just simply change the button sequence of execution?

Your logic: it's trivial, I don't mind, I'll learn them again.

My logic: it's not fine, there is a lot of time invested in learning those moves along with their button sequences, if you're staying true to the original series by keeping the moves, why not keep the button sequence of execution (for those particular moves) and add whatever new mechanics / combos/ etc.. on top of it (like the case with SF / Tekken)?

Again, let's clarify the logic so you won't come back thinking I'm objecting because I need a plain MK2 game. I'm fine with change, but it needs to be similar to how SF series progressed. I don't want to keep investing time learning different button sequences for the same move every time a new installment released (which is literally the case with MK series after MK4).

Hope the above clarifies the complain.

Now if you're not getting the legitimacy of my complain. As in, you understand I'm not looking for exact copy of MK2, but still think why should anyone be upset if his/her favorite fighting game kept changing the moves button sequence and/or fighting mechanices on each and every installment, then my answer is; I believe you're wrong, as alienating pro fans is not an intelligent way of dealing with a fighting franchise.

SF2 kept the old button sequence (for pro fans sake), Same is the case with the Tekken series. (except Tekken 4, when they tinkered just a little with the mechanics and fans complained so they returned it to what it was in the following installments).

So if you think that's not a legitimate complain, I can't help you there. It's my taste against yours. But I won't feel sorry for you when you spend time on this MK installment only to find the next one changes the move set & fighting mechanics all together :)

For me, I learned my lesson with the MK series and I choose not to invest time on this one. And I'm also warning "intellectual" pro fans about what to expect with this one. So don't get upset / feel sorry (as i can't help u if u do) about my choice or warning, just go enjoy your new MK game and let me practice my "free speech" about it :P

Mystery_Writer

[QUOTE="qbell"]also this game has the best story mode ever.Swift_Boss_A

I am so psyched about the story mode, I hope this starts a trend and we see similar attempts at a story mode from other fighting games.

Boon and Co have really done a brilliant job with the story and I am looking forward to play it later today. Heck I don't even care if the story through cutscenes is not good because the fact they tried -and judging from the reviews succeeded- is all I need to know to confirm that a SP type story is definitely possible in fighting games.

Even Motorstorm attempted a story through cutscenes in the latest racing/offroad title, and though it's nothing to brag about I rather liked the motion comics.

More SP story in fighting, racing and other genre's that normally don't do (proper)story!

Yeah the story mode is pure genius, if only for forcing you to try out all the characters.bobbetybob

Absolutely agree.

I wish I could make up some long combos :(Ravensmash

Watch some combo videos on youtube on the character you want to play as. I am sure you can learn a combo or two from there.

what a waste of money.. unbelievable piece of garbage. Just bought the game based on the reviews of many websites claiming MK is back to its roots with this installment. Warning to MK II & III fans. It's again, a whole new (completely new) controller move set that has nothing to do with the original series. They simply won't get it and would never get it why the original was a success. I really had enough and wish this franchise to fail hard. rant / warning overMystery_Writer

i've played every mk since 2 and i have to say its the best one since 3 :S its fast,gory,and feels like how MK did without MK2's cheap ai.Sure some combo's have been reconfigured and all that but its not massively gamebreaking either :S this is the closest the games have been at their roots without a rerelease for bout a decade if not more :S mk going to a 3d fighting plane was pure flat out bad imho.

Shao Kahn, Kintaro, Goro, Shang Tsung(when you first fight him a 1/4 through story mode), and Quan Chi(when in tag battle) are the cheapest pos characters in the game. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Yea yea I know Lui Kang low fire ball and dragon kick can own shao kahn and air kick can cancel out kintaro's and goro's air stomp but still. I tried spamming Kang fire balls when I first fought Kahn and the damn AI just countered with that damn stun low hammer throw. Shang Tsung when you first fight him is damn near impossible to beat and I ****ing hate fighting against Quan Chi when in tag battle where he too is somewhat unstoppable.

/end rant

Anyways although this games story mode made me cry like a little ***** it's still a great game.

P.S. PS3 owners, is this game freezing on you at times? I'd be in a tough cheap boss battle, win, and then right after before the game saves the win the game freezes. I restart the game and I have to fight the boss again because the game froze right in the middle of saving, WTF!!!!!!!!!!! :cry:................:evil: This has happened twice while in story mode to me. Don't know if it's a game on ps3 issue. The same thing happened to me while playing the first GOW on ps2 years back.

It tends to freeze during Krypt loading time, at about 3/4 bar.Salt_The_Fries

Shao Kahn, Kintaro, Goro, Shang Tsung(when you first fight him a 1/4 through story mode), and Quan Chi(when in tag battle) are the cheapest pos characters in the game. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Yea yea I know Lui Kang low fire ball and dragon kick can own shao kahn and air kick can cancel out kintaro's and goro's air stomp but still. I tried spamming Kang fire balls when I first fought Kahn and the damn AI just countered with that damn stun low hammer throw. Shang Tsung when you first fight him is damn near impossible to beat and I ****ing hate fighting against Quan Chi when in tag battle where he too is somewhat unstoppable.

/end rant

Anyways although this games story mode made me cry like a little ***** it's still a great game.

P.S. PS3 owners, is this game freezing on you at times? I'd be in a tough cheap boss battle, win, and then right after before the game saves the win the game freezes. I restart the game and I have to fight the boss again because the game froze right in the middle of saving, WTF!!!!!!!!!!! :cry:................:evil: This has happened twice while in story mode to me. Don't know if it's a game on ps3 issue. The same thing happened to me while playing the first GOW on ps2 years back.

CB4McGusto

I wish I could make up some long combos :(Ravensmash

Whats I usally do is go to pratice and try the combos they already have in game. Then I mess witht he ones that make your enemy go in the air and try to connect some punches with some specials or while in mid of a combo pull off a special that launches them in the air. You can find out some damagin combos by using this strategy and also ways to connect an xray. Im kinda mad the psn is down since its letting people pratice thus making that 10 rank wins in a row harder to get when psn comes back.

Shao Kahn, Kintaro, Goro, Shang Tsung(when you first fight him a 1/4 through story mode), and Quan Chi(when in tag battle) are the cheapest pos characters in the game. I HATE THEM!!!!!!!!!!! :evil:

Yea yea I know Lui Kang low fire ball and dragon kick can own shao kahn and air kick can cancel out kintaro's and goro's air stomp but still. I tried spamming Kang fire balls when I first fought Kahn and the damn AI just countered with that damn stun low hammer throw. Shang Tsung when you first fight him is damn near impossible to beat and I ****ing hate fighting against Quan Chi when in tag battle where he too is somewhat unstoppable.

/end rant

Anyways although this games story mode made me cry like a little ***** it's still a great game.

P.S. PS3 owners, is this game freezing on you at times? I'd be in a tough cheap boss battle, win, and then right after before the game saves the win the game freezes. I restart the game and I have to fight the boss again because the game froze right in the middle of saving, WTF!!!!!!!!!!! :cry:................:evil: This has happened twice while in story mode to me. Don't know if it's a game on ps3 issue. The same thing happened to me while playing the first GOW on ps2 years back.

CB4McGusto

did you also try the jump over them combo trick. Which is basicly jump over the boss character and while coming down press punch so you hit him with the air punch to stun them and then connect it with a quick ground combo the character has like square.square,square and just rinse and repeat. Kahn can sometimes still get you but it work non the less. Also game has yet to freeze on me. The most that happend was during a ending music and voice over was gone but that was after I was playing this game for ungodly hours.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

To Wiimotefan, sandbox3d, and the others,

To be honest, I don't know what you're not getting, the legitimacy of my complain, or the complain itself.

I'll start with the complain itself; I'll give an example to clarify it. What do you think pro SF2 or Tekken fans would feel if Capcom / Namco decided to keep the moves (staying true to the franchise), but just simply change the button sequence of execution?

Your logic: it's trivial, I don't mind, I'll learn them again.

My logic: it's not fine, there is a lot of time invested in learning those moves along with their button sequences, if you're staying true to the original series by keeping the moves, why not keep the button sequence of execution (for those particular moves) and add whatever new mechanics / combos/ etc.. on top of it (like the case with SF / Tekken)?

Again, let's clarify the logic so you won't come back thinking I'm objecting because I need a plain MK2 game. I'm fine with change, but it needs to be similar to how SF series progressed. I don't want to keep investing time learning different button sequences for the same move every time a new installment released (which is literally the case with MK series after MK4).

Hope the above clarifies the complain.

Now if you're not getting the legitimacy of my complain. As in, you understand I'm not looking for exact copy of MK2, but still think why should anyone be upset if his/her favorite fighting game kept changing the moves button sequence and/or fighting mechanices on each and every installment, then my answer is; I believe you're wrong, as alienating pro fans is not an intelligent way of dealing with a fighting franchise.

SF2 kept the old button sequence (for pro fans sake), Same is the case with the Tekken series. (except Tekken 4, when they tinkered just a little with the mechanics and fans complained so they returned it to what it was in the following installments).

So if you think that's not a legitimate complain, I can't help you there. It's my taste against yours. But I won't feel sorry for you when you spend time on this MK installment only to find the next one changes the move set & fighting mechanics all together :)

For me, I learned my lesson with the MK series and I choose not to invest time on this one. And I'm also warning "intellectual" pro fans about what to expect with this one. So don't get upset / feel sorry (as i can't help u if u do) about my choice or warning, just go enjoy your new MK game and let me practice my "free speech" about it :P

Rekunta

I wouldint go nuts if they changed the input for haoken. I would just do what I did when I played the demo for MK. Which was "hmm this is werid" then I got over it and this is hands downt he best MK I played.

Am I missing something? I am doing the challenge tower and I have do defeat the barakas (20) without letting them touch me (jax). THe big one with the mohawk doesnt seem to die :(.

Am I missing something? I am doing the challenge tower and I have do defeat the barakas (20) without letting them touch me (jax). THe big one with the mohawk doesnt seem to die :(.

NaveedLife

[QUOTE="NaveedLife"]

Am I missing something? I am doing the challenge tower and I have do defeat the barakas (20) without letting them touch me (jax). THe big one with the mohawk doesnt seem to die :(.

mrmusicman247

hah I finally figured it out, but I am still having troubles :P. Not so sure I like this challenge :evil: lol :P. Thanks for the help.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]what a waste of money.. unbelievable piece of garbage. Just bought the game based on the reviews of many websites claiming MK is back to its roots with this installment. Warning to MK II & III fans. It's again, a whole new (completely new) controller move set that has nothing to do with the original series. They simply won't get it and would never get it why the original was a success. I really had enough and wish this franchise to fail hard. rant / warning overrazgriz_101

i've played every mk since 2 and i have to say its the best one since 3 :S its fast,gory,and feels like how MK did without MK2's cheap ai.Sure some combo's have been reconfigured and all that but its not massively gamebreaking either :S this is the closest the games have been at their roots without a rerelease for bout a decade if not more :S mk going to a 3d fighting plane was pure flat out bad imho.

Haters keep hating, the game has met all my expectation, i am enjoying it very much. solid 9

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

what a waste of money.. unbelievable piece of garbage. Just bought the game based on the reviews of many websites claiming MK is back to its roots with this installment. Warning to MK II & III fans. It's again, a whole new (completely new) controller move set that has nothing to do with the original series. They simply won't get it and would never get it why the original was a success. I really had enough and wish this franchise to fail hard. rant / warning overMystery_Writer

i've played every mk since 2 and i have to say its the best one since 3 :S its fast,gory,and feels like how MK did without MK2's cheap ai.Sure some combo's have been reconfigured and all that but its not massively gamebreaking either :S this is the closest the games have been at their roots without a rerelease for bout a decade if not more :S mk going to a 3d fighting plane was pure flat out bad imho.

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

i've played every mk since 2 and i have to say its the best one since 3 :S its fast,gory,and feels like how MK did without MK2's cheap ai.Sure some combo's have been reconfigured and all that but its not massively gamebreaking either :S this is the closest the games have been at their roots without a rerelease for bout a decade if not more :S mk going to a 3d fighting plane was pure flat out bad imho.

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="razgriz_101"]

i've played every mk since 2 and i have to say its the best one since 3 :S its fast,gory,and feels like how MK did without MK2's cheap ai.Sure some combo's have been reconfigured and all that but its not massively gamebreaking either :S this is the closest the games have been at their roots without a rerelease for bout a decade if not more :S mk going to a 3d fighting plane was pure flat out bad imho.

_Cadbury_

Anyway, that's my opinion about it. If old time pro MK fans also disagrees, then I guess I'm alone with my disappointment of this franchise.

I'm just warning people not to trust this franchise thinking the developer will stay loyal to the fans.

I'm not really into fighting games. I tend to spaz out on all of the required input memorization that needs to be done. I wanted to try out the story mode though. I gotta say, while not my cup of tea, the story mode is pretty awesome.It's basically a Mortal Kombat movie. It's too bad I'll never get to finish it.

[QUOTE="_Cadbury_"][QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"] here is an explanation as to why IMHO you shouldn't waste your time on this series (http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/mortal-kombat/player_review.html?id=762871&tag=player-reviews%3Bcontinue%3B9)

Mystery_Writer

Anyway, that's my opinion about it. If old time pro MK fans also disagrees, then I guess I'm alone with my disappointment of this franchise.

I'm just warning people not to trust this franchise thinking the developer will stay loyal to the fans.

Yup cause staying loyal to the fans equel keeping subs ice move down forward LP:roll:. I mean the game keeps the look and feel of the series and characters. Keeps the basic ground work for the lore while changing somethings since thats the point of this time story and keeps signature moves for characters. I mean thats nice and all,but changing the input from punch to a kick now thats just pissing on everything......:|

I dont know how many times during the course of this series I've had to change the way I throw Scorpions spear. This has been a long occuring aspect of the seriesWiimotefan

There weren't much changes between 1, 2, 3, and 4. All the basic moves were there. My complain is a build up from all those installments that came after the first 4.

This is finally what is supposed to be "back to its roots" installment and what we're getting is again a completely new button sequence for moves.

I don't understand why you're happy with investing time and effort into practicing and perfecting combos for only one installment. But who am I to judge. Again, that's my opinion about why I'm really disappointed and why I believe it is necessary to warn people who wish to master this game to stay away from this franchise if they value their time.

I believe if some SF fans read this they would support my stance rather than yours. Changing the button sequence (or even the frame timing) of one single character signature move would throw their combos off let alone a complete remapping of sequences for all characters on every single installment.

If relearning new fighting game with every installment is something you enjoy, then by all means, ignore my post, as you seem to be enjoying this practice.

Honestly, I don't know how to put it more simpler to you and to others who continue trying to discredit the legitimacy of my claim.

However, if the reason you're trying to descredit the legitmacy of my complain is you're still not getting my claim, then I really don't know any better way to put it than perhaps advising you to ask an SF/Tekken fan on what would his/her reaction be if Capcom/Tekken completely changed the button sequence for all the characters moves in their next installments.

Also, I guess you'll get to understand my disappointment if you really invested time into this one and ended up mastering it. You'll then know what it feels like worrying about how you'll not reap the reward of what you mastered when the new installment comes out.

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]I dont know how many times during the course of this series I've had to change the way I throw Scorpions spear. This has been a long occuring aspect of the seriesMystery_Writer

There weren't much changes between 1, 2, 3, and 4. All the basic moves were there. My complain is a build up from all those installments that came after the first 4.

This is finally what is supposed to be "back to its roots" installment and what we're getting is again a completely new button sequence for moves.

I don't understand why you're happy with investing time and effort into practicing and perfecting combos for only one installment. But who am I to judge. Again, that's my opinion about why I'm really disappointed and why I believe it is necessary to warn people who wish to master this game to stay away from this franchise if they value their time.

I believe if some SF fans read this they would support my stance rather than yours. Changing the button sequence (or even the frame timing) of one single character signature move would throw their combos off let alone a complete remapping of sequences for all characters on every single installment.

If relearning new fighting game with every installment is something you enjoy, then by all means, ignore my post, as you seem to be enjoying this practice.

Honestly, I don't know how to put it more simpler to you and to others who continue trying to discredit the legitimacy of my claim.

However, if the reason you're trying to descredit the legitmacy of my complain is you're still not getting my claim, then I really don't know any better way to put it than perhaps advising you to ask an SF/Tekken fan on what would his/her reaction be if Capcom/Tekken completely changed the button sequence for all the characters moves in their next installments.

wiimote,

There was a drastic change between 2, 3 and 4. But I didn't mind it as the basics stayed the same.

Being just a fan and mastering a game is something entirely different. If you truly invested time and mastered SF as you claim, how do you feel if Capcom decided to change how you throw a hadouken and all other basic moves for every single character in the next installment?

[QUOTE="Mystery_Writer"]

[QUOTE="Wiimotefan"]I dont know how many times during the course of this series I've had to change the way I throw Scorpions spear. This has been a long occuring aspect of the seriesmrmusicman247

There weren't much changes between 1, 2, 3, and 4. All the basic moves were there. My complain is a build up from all those installments that came after the first 4.

This is finally what is supposed to be "back to its roots" installment and what we're getting is again a completely new button sequence for moves.

I don't understand why you're happy with investing time and effort into practicing and perfecting combos for only one installment. But who am I to judge. Again, that's my opinion about why I'm really disappointed and why I believe it is necessary to warn people who wish to master this game to stay away from this franchise if they value their time.

I believe if some SF fans read this they would support my stance rather than yours. Changing the button sequence (or even the frame timing) of one single character signature move would throw their combos off let alone a complete remapping of sequences for all characters on every single installment.

If relearning new fighting game with every installment is something you enjoy, then by all means, ignore my post, as you seem to be enjoying this practice.

Honestly, I don't know how to put it more simpler to you and to others who continue trying to discredit the legitimacy of my claim.

However, if the reason you're trying to descredit the legitmacy of my complain is you're still not getting my claim, then I really don't know any better way to put it than perhaps advising you to ask an SF/Tekken fan on what would his/her reaction be if Capcom/Tekken completely changed the button sequence for all the characters moves in their next installments.

Pretty much. When they said back to roots they meant back to good old gory bloody fatalty fun with 2d gameplay. Also with a comment like this "I don't understand why you're happy with investing time and effort into practicing and perfecting combos for only one installment" then you dont get the idea behind a fighter. Majority of fighting games to change a bit just look at SF2 to SF3 which had parrying some new specials and moves that connected in a whole new way. Thus people put time into learning new combos and getting better at them. Then SF4 came and played really nothing like SF3 but people still spent time learning new combos and getting better at them with the added ultras. With the actual effort it takes to make a good combo and some of the new things people gatta learn from one instalment to another I doubt they would freak is as much asthis guyis and put the game down if hadoken was kick insted of punch.

So far I'm doing the story mode.. got to

[spoiler] the part where you have to fight kintaro and goro at the same time.. then I was like.. nah I'll leave that alone for a bit lol [/spoiler]

Dunno if this has been posted yet guize.

So far I'm doing the story mode.. got to

Espada12

That was fun :P

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So far I'm doing the story mode.. got to

lbjkurono23

That was fun :P

By the time I got there I already knew the simple pattern. So I basicly beat the crap out of them.

So far I'm doing the story mode.. got to

Espada12

Yeah I took a break there too when I was going through :P

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So far I'm doing the story mode.. got to

finalfantasy94

That was fun :P

By the time I got there I already knew the simple pattern. So I basicly beat the crap out of them.

Beat Story Mode, and now am basically jumping between the challenge ladder and taking each individual through the standard single player ladder.

Also out of the endings of the characters that you can unlock from completing the ladder, whose do you guys like the most? Please include spoiler tags if necessary.

I really liked Johnny Cage's ending the best so far. I haven't unlocked all of them yet but I'm almost there.

Took me a second try, but it wasn't tough. By the way I got my klassic Jade costume(voucher) :Dlbjkurono23

Nice! I am also not much closer to settling on my mains lol. So far I only got smoke/stryker, but I really enjoy ermac, sindel and sector. Also did anyone else think Johnny Cage had some pretty good writing?

Also out of the endings of the characters that you can unlock from completing the ladder, whose do you guys like the most? Please include spoiler tags if necessary.

I really liked Johnny Cage's ending the best so far. I haven't unlocked all of them yet but I'm almost there.

mrmusicman247

I liked a few but my fav had to be sub zero. Im not being bias its just his end is a bad ass concept. So far the weakest has tobe jade. Also wish the outfits you see in kabals and cyber subs were real.

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Took me a second try, but it wasn't tough. By the way I got my klassic Jade costume(voucher) :DEspada12

Nice! I am also not much closer to settling on my mains lol. So far I only got smoke/stryker, but I really enjoy ermac, sindel and sector.