MW2 terrorist massacre isn't as bad as some other games

I dont get why so many people are so bothered about MW2 terrorist massacre? Some people say its morally wrong to add it into the game but i think that peopleare just picking onMW2 because its apopular game. If MW2 was based on a real event then i could understand why people are upset about this but its not. Its a made up scenario like load of other games in the past. Some games are just as bad or worse but didn't get people upset to the point of not buying the game.

GTA games used to have kill frenzies.

Fallout you can nuke a whole town.

State of Emergency with a PS2 game where you run around the street killing loads of people rioting. The bonus game was based in a mall where you had to run around and slaughter unarmed people. The more kill in the time limit the better.

Fable 2 you can marry more than one person, take you wife or husband to be executed on the torture wheel and leave your kid as a orphan. Massacre the whole town just to get some loot.

This is just some examples. What other games can you remember that have morally wrong moments in them that are just as bad as MW2 but no one moaned about?

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

_TheJoker_

I dont get why so many people are so bothered about MW2 terrorist massacre? Some people say its morally wrong to add it into the game but i think that peopleare just picking onMW2 because its apopular game. If MW2 was based on a real event then i could understand why people are upset about this but its not. Its a made up scenario like load of other games in the past. Some games are just as bad or worse but didn't get people upset to the point of not buying the game.

GTA games used to have kill frenzies.

Fallout you can nuke a whole town.

State of Emergency with a PS2 game where you run around the street killing loads of people rioting. The bonus game was based in a mall where you had to run around and slaughter unarmed people. The more kill in the time limit the better.

Fable 2 you can marry more than one person, take you wife or husband to be executed on the torture wheel and leave your kid as a orphan. Massacre the whole town just to get some loot.

This is just some examples. What other games can you remember that have morally wrong moments in them that are just as bad as MW2 but no one moaned about?

campbell1874

Fallout you can nuke a whole town.

campbell1874

Actually, Fallout 3's nuke caused some controversy in Japan and if I remember right, in the Japanese version you can't detonate the bomb. Only disarm it.

All of those examples are done in a funny kind of way. I play all sorts of violent games and am never really bothered by them. The fact that it takes place in an airport, by terrorists, and basically reenacts a possible alternative to 9/11 just doesn't seem necessary.

Double standards my friend, double standards.Sollet

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

hot114

In 10 year time people could look back at MW2 and say it has laughable animation and graphics. It doesn't stop the fact that your killing animated people no matter how bad or good the graphics are.

What other game moment are as bad as this game but no one said anything about.

[QUOTE="campbell1874"]

Fallout you can nuke a whole town.

Icarian

Actually, Fallout 3's nuke caused some controversy in Japan and if I remember right, in the Japanese version you can't detonate the bomb. Only disarm it.

True but no one really cared in the rest of the world.

[QUOTE="campbell1874"]

Fallout you can nuke a whole town.

Actually, Fallout 3's nuke caused some controversy in Japan and if I remember right, in the Japanese version you can't detonate the bomb. Only disarm it.

[QUOTE="hot114"][QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

campbell1874

In 10 year time people could look back at MW2 and say it has laughable animation and graphics. It doesn't stop the fact that your killing animated people no matter how bad or good the graphics are.

a old snip from mt blog as i dont believe GTA games to be violent because of the lack of immersion factor theyr just arcadey sandbox games to play around with the laughable physics

So gaming violence is a hot topicnow and tomorow however i have seen few "violent" games that managed to get a reaction out of me as you would expect with seeing amutilated corpse or whatever in that categorie.

With so many people yelling videogame violence is out of control how bad can it really be?
If anything i would say videogame violence is at an all time low,

Just take a look at this screen.


Now you might say "oh but i can do that in GTA aswell" but really in the new games where is the effect of your actions? there is no blood to blind your windshield, no terifying screams hell after you are done killing 15 seconds later everything just resets as if nothing hapened everyone continues on theyr merry way. I cant see any gore in that its just messing around with game mechanics.

Do realise that the screenshot above is from a PC game released in 1994, yes 15 years ago i can imagine some of the people reading this werent even born by that time.

All of those examples are done in a funny kind of way. I play all sorts of violent games and am never really bothered by them. The fact that it takes place in an airport, by terrorists, and basically reenacts a possible alternative to 9/11 just doesn't seem necessary.

BPoole96

That a loose link between 9/11 plane attack and a gun attack in a airport. Yes they are both terroriest attack but they are not the same.

It it worse picking up a gum and shooting people calling yourself a terrorists or playing avideo game andblowing up houses and towns.

There is a worse game that is in development but no-ones brought it up yet.Its worse asthegame is based on real events-

The PS3, Xbox 360, and PC game is/was due to dramatize the events of the second battle of Fallujah, one of the bloodiest and hard-fought of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Konami announced the game recently only to immediately be bombarded with complaints and condemnations from war veterans, the families of those killed in the battle, and peace campaigners.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/04/28/six-days-in-fallujah-canned-real-war-on-ps3-xbox-360-a-step-too-far/

I think the key difference here is that GTA does not take itself half as serious as the CoD series. When you are rampaging in GTA it's just mindless and silly, while the terrorist scene is remarkably serious in a time when terrorism is a hot button in the world.

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

All of those examples are done in a funny kind of way. I play all sorts of violent games and am never really bothered by them. The fact that it takes place in an airport, by terrorists, and basically reenacts a possible alternative to 9/11 just doesn't seem necessary.

campbell1874

That a loose link between 9/11 plane attack and a gun attack in a airport. Yes they are both terroriest attack but they are not the same.

It it worse picking up a gum and shooting people calling yourself a terrorists or playing avideo game andblowing up houses and towns.

There is a worse game that is in development but no-ones brought it up yet.Its worse asthegame is based on real events-

The PS3, Xbox 360, and PC game is/was due to dramatize the events of the second battle of Fallujah, one of the bloodiest and hard-fought of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Konami announced the game recently only to immediately be bombarded with complaints and condemnations from war veterans, the families of those killed in the battle, and peace campaigners.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/04/28/six-days-in-fallujah-canned-real-war-on-ps3-xbox-360-a-step-too-far/

The connection is still there though. Terrorists, airports/planes, and lots of innocent American dying. I dont think I'm the only one who immediately thought 9/11 upon seeing that.

The game you showed though, I'm not 100% but I think that game was cancelled. I remember reading about it though

You're not forced to do those things to progress through the game though.You can go through Fallout 3 and GTA without killing civilians. I THINK in MW2 you're forced to kill civilianszbdyx

Oh, and i forgot to add. It will be awesome if we get to fly airplanes into digital towers filled with people, so we could watch all the digital people who survived the crash jump to their deaths trying to escape the digital heat and the impending doom that was bound to occur due to the damage sustained by these buildings. /sarcasmtok1879

[QUOTE="campbell1874"]

[QUOTE="BPoole96"]

All of those examples are done in a funny kind of way. I play all sorts of violent games and am never really bothered by them. The fact that it takes place in an airport, by terrorists, and basically reenacts a possible alternative to 9/11 just doesn't seem necessary.

BPoole96

That a loose link between 9/11 plane attack and a gun attack in a airport. Yes they are both terroriest attack but they are not the same.

It it worse picking up a gum and shooting people calling yourself a terrorists or playing avideo game andblowing up houses and towns.

There is a worse game that is in development but no-ones brought it up yet.Its worse asthegame is based on real events-

The PS3, Xbox 360, and PC game is/was due to dramatize the events of the second battle of Fallujah, one of the bloodiest and hard-fought of 'Operation Iraqi Freedom'. Konami announced the game recently only to immediately be bombarded with complaints and condemnations from war veterans, the families of those killed in the battle, and peace campaigners.

http://gamer.blorge.com/2009/04/28/six-days-in-fallujah-canned-real-war-on-ps3-xbox-360-a-step-too-far/

The connection is still there though. Terrorists, airports/planes, and lots of innocent American dying. I dont think I'm the only one who immediately thought 9/11 upon seeing that.

The game you showed though, I'm not 100% but I think that game was cancelled. I remember reading about it though

The army game isstill in development but they have to find a new publisher.

The difference is MW2 is trying to look and play realistically.

The problem with the GTA games were people complained, but never took the time to realise how unrealistic it was.

I'm not complaining about MW2, couldn't care less, but people can't compare it to unrealistic games.

Also the artstyle and graphics of those games were never meant to look real on the given technology available at the time, where as MW2 is. All the games mentioned by the TC, I bet there were more realistic and violent games on all their respective technologies if that makes sense to anyone.

EDIT: Just want to add, i'm not trying to say MW2 is realistic as in a sim, but it is meant to feel more real then normal games.

I agree. Dunno why people are so sensitive about it, apparently it's okay to kill people in games when it's funny (to you), but when someone tries to add some drama to it and actually make you feel bad for doing it, it's suddenly wrong, I think that's kinda twisted.ManicAce

I guess thats kinda the same with everything, depending if its portrayed funny or real.

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

hot114

Man I hope you don't watch the news or a prime time tv show, you would be in an asylum, any form of censory is against the constitution. Pushing ones views, religion, andway of life is wrong. What one finds immoral, another moral. What one finds bad, another finds good.

[QUOTE="hot114"][QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

fixer293

Man I hope you don't watch the news or a prime time tv show, you would be in an asylum, any form of censory is against the constitution. Pushing ones views, religion, andway of life is wrong. What one finds immoral, another moral. What one finds bad, another finds good.

a old snip from mt blog as i dont believe GTA games to be violent because of the lack of immersion factor theyr just arcadey sandbox games to play around with the laughable physics

So gaming violence is a hot topicnow and tomorow however i have seen few "violent" games that managed to get a reaction out of me as you would expect with seeing amutilated corpse or whatever in that categorie.

With so many people yelling videogame violence is out of control how bad can it really be?
If anything i would say videogame violence is at an all time low,

Just take a look at this screen.


Now you might say "oh but i can do that in GTA aswell" but really in the new games where is the effect of your actions? there is no blood to blind your windshield, no terifying screams hell after you are done killing 15 seconds later everything just resets as if nothing hapened everyone continues on theyr merry way. I cant see any gore in that its just messing around with game mechanics.

Do realise that the screenshot above is from a PC game released in 1994, yes 15 years ago i can imagine some of the people reading this werent even born by that time.

hot114

[QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

hot114

[QUOTE="fixer293"] then don't buy the game, if you are offende by it, but don't come in here pushing your views on us. You don't find the scen in tast, ok and? cry me a river., don't buy it, another copy for someone who wants it. Violence is a part of humanity, the world is not lollipops and hugs and bunnny rabbits and everyone getting along. That is life DEAL WIDIT.hot114

[QUOTE="tok1879"]Oh, and i forgot to add. It will be awesome if we get to fly airplanes into digital towers filled with people, so we could watch all the digital people who survived the crash jump to their deaths trying to escape the digital heat and the impending doom that was bound to occur due to the damage sustained by these buildings. /sarcasmtoast_burner

I think the key difference here is that GTA does not take itself half as serious as the CoD series. When you are rampaging in GTA it's just mindless and silly, while the terrorist scene is remarkably serious in a time when terrorism is a hot button in the world.

Vaasman

People are offended because of terrorism. I was shocked, but i understand why people say it shouldnt be in the game.

To the people who say others are hypocrites, well, if you really think about it, Gta series is only terrorism if you choose to kill citizens who have not done wrong. They dont force you to shoot anyone who has not done something bad.

[QUOTE="hot114"][QUOTE="_TheJoker_"]

I think people here are really hypocrates, they all bash the terrorist mission because "OMG you kill innocent people!" and they all own at least 2 GTA games.

It's just a game, and how many movies have things like this or worse!

fatzebra

Previous Cod's were war games, fighting for their country. So your calling American Armed forces Terrorists?

All of those examples are done in a funny kind of way. I play all sorts of violent games and am never really bothered by them. The fact that it takes place in an airport, by terrorists, and basically reenacts a possible alternative to 9/11 just doesn't seem necessary.

BPoole96

Exactly, some people are taking it too seriously but many on here arent taking it seriously enough. This is like the movies but you are reenacting it personally and its just a tad more disturbing to witness(probably the idea Iw was going for) than just some *know its fake so just for giggles* type of game aka gta. Personally, if I actually had enough interest to buy this game to begin with, this wouldnt affect my purchase but I think something like this is just unnecessary and a little over the top. Im sorry but if you cant notice the difference between this and gta, there is something not right there.

Not from me but expect this to get a lot more heat when the game releases.

I just think its interesting how an American developer can base a terrorist level in and Indian Airport knowing full well of last years Mumbai attacks yet people would go crazy if anything about killing US citizens on US soil would yell treason. This is why i find it ridiculous.

Actual gameplay wise you make valid points only difference is that this is taking a quite semi-realistic take in its story.

behaving like a ass

fixer293