New NX rumor (Eurogamer); portable/console hybrid, Tegra processor, etc.

The Nvidia TV is $199 using an X1. The X2 shouldn't increase cost too much, with a built in screen likely be about $299-$399 for consumers.

@charizard1605: Pretty much nailed my thoughts on it. This doesnt have to compete with the other systems toe to toe graphically, handhelds have always got different third party games from home systems, except you also get the full efforts of Nintendo first party this time and dont have to buy two separate systems to do so. Win win.

Interested in your thoughts on this matter. Does this mine Nintendo will produce more 1st Party games than PlayStation??

Sign me up! My Negative Opinion be damned.

Nintendo already produce more first party games than PlayStation, the problem is they are spread across 3DS and Wii U (both systems they have to support all by themselves), so the quality and effective quantity suffers. This means that they only have to support one system, so essentially we could have at least one top tier Nintendo game a month (without getting into their smaller side ventures), without the quality having to suffer because the games had to be rushed.

Ha ha ha ha the burn lol

Well, maybe its about time Nintendo tries to get 3rd party? And when i say "try", im talking about their laughable WiiU attempt.

We shall see. My initial opinion is just being pissed at Nintendo for not coming out swinging. I'm not total against what they are doing, and I was thinking it would be something else.

Again, I reserve my hate or love for an official announcement.

Yes and no, some those are just smaller version of the big game. Also, I doubt it takes as much resource to make a handheld game and the millionth iteration of Super Mario, SSB, Mario Cart, and etc.

There is literally nothing they can do to steal the third party games and fan base from where it's firmly entrenched on the HD twins. They could come out with a juggernaut of a console and shell out for third party inclusion and either they wont sell well or the "kiddy" image will keep people from buying the system as usual. They cant afford to buy support like microsoft did early to build that fanbase on their systems.

Meanwhile, they have great third party support in the handheld space where they've killed it. If this rumor is true its playing to all of their strengths while not wasting money trying to grab what would end up as a small share of the home third party market that Sony/MS already have a stranglehold on. I totally agree that their home third party support was laughable with the Wii U, but this is catering to their third party that has been excellent in the handheld space. Monster Hunter 5 on what will end up as the most powerful handheld system thusfar is going to be amazing, along with the slew of RPGs and others that Nintendo handhelds get.

Super Mario, Mario Kart, and especially Super Smash Bros. are full fledged AAA games with some of the biggest budgets Nintendo has for their games- it takes insane amounts of resources to make those games (which is one reason why they take so long to release, and why there is always only one of those per system).

I guess, sometimes I wonder is just to keep them becoming over saturated with the same game like you know, how cough cough Sicromoft...cough. I had something in my throat, sorry.

I hoping for the best. Zelda shows that they still have some magic left. now if only Redmond could pump of some games.

@flyincloud1116: I think if anything this helps them prevent that. Nintendo experiments more in the handheld space generally, and some series like Fire Emblem have moved to handhelds completely. This system could have 3d and 2d mario, 3d and 2d Zelda,, metroid, splatoon, fire emblem, Retro studios games, Monolith Soft games, mario kart (with more time freed for development and DLC since two separate games dont have to be made), ALL IN ONE. That's insane to me.

If you combine the libraries of the 3DS and Wii U this gen you have an AMAZING library by any standard, that's what I picture with NX.

If this is true... it will be disastrous. It will effectively destroy Nintendo's home console business.

And why would something that extreme happen?

Here is a mockup of the detachable controllers. I'm still not on board.

I'd probably be a lot happier with this, considering Nintendo has been killing in the handheld department for years, whilst floundering with their consoles. This way I can play whilst i'm chilling at home anywhere, or hook it up to my TV (which I would love).

Plus, shit... Solid handheld graphics as well. Pretty nice evolution from their WiiU tablet.

Well looks like I'm skipping Nintendo next system unless they have good games to back it off with

So lets assume there will be a docking port which offers more power, you happy with $600+.

That's the part that is really cool about it, and I think we've discussed this before too, but having all that Ninty goodness on ONE device? OP as hell.

That said, as of now I'm afraid the hardware will botch the concept, slightly. Outside of the software itself, they need to make sure the system delivers the concept in an effective way. While I'm sure much, much smarter people than me have been working on that issue for a loooong time with the info we have right now (this leak) I'm a bit fearful they'll fall a bit short.

Again, nothing but speculation on my part. Can't wait to see what Ninty has to say/show about this.

Also, please let it not be a WiiU tablet with removable controls >.> Ergonomy matters Nintendo!!

Where are you even pulling that number? This is Nintendo...

I see so many complaints regarding this while I'm over here rather excited at the prospect of a much stronger handheld offering from Nintendo, with the possibility of connecting it to my 50-inch TV.

Glad I don't care about graphical fidelity in my games.

were you happy with the PS3 at 600 that sold 80 mills? or how about xbox one which launched at record 500

Ninty 600 is fine imo more quality and more respect and more games

What?

interesting. risky. if this doesnt work then there is no fallback....so it has to perform. usualy salt suppliment of course but Eurogamer are pretty solid.

it does solve a few problems though.

1) nintendo can focus on just one device. thats quite a bit of development clout behind just one device. so hopefully a steadier stream of content.

2) cost of production for games will remain sensible. it wont take teams of hundreds years and years at the cost of 10s of millions to make such a device sing.

3) any tech nintendo develop for this will still apply to more advanced hardware. the GPU is the same as its desktop counterpart.....just not as pwerful. ARM cores are ARM cores. its nto some wierd custom built monstoristy that has no future (its not the cell basically...oooh burn! :P). even a lot of the stuff theu have developed on the wiiu will work on this (with tweaks and bug fixes of course).

4) people only need one device for their nintendo goodies.

it does have a few ramifications though

1) the big 3rd party multiplats are gone. COD, creed, effect....not happening. they probably wouldnt sell on the NX anyway though.....that nintendo customer hostility towards 3rd parties.

2) it will make getting 3rd parties on board in any capacity more difficult compared to making a PS4 clone. still easier than getting them to port a PS4 game to the wiiu though.

3) as i mentioned above...its all eggs in one basket. if it doesnt work out there is no fallback.

so.....interesting. a few things come to mind.

1) im not sure what the controller is going to be like. it sounds like itll come in 2 parts (like the wimote and nunchuck) but i dont think itll hold all the same functionality. the wiimote and nunchuck wouldnt work for a handheld. maybe its a more standard controller that you can snap together when its seperated from the screen.

2) how much will this cost? the shield console, for the basic model, is 199. that doenst include any screen(s) and only 16GB of storage.

3) looking at the shield console: it also has a fan. its actively cooled. unless nintendo go 16nm or something to alievate the heat i cant see it having a full fat X1 under the hood. something will have to give for a handheld (lower clockspeed maybe).

4) will the base station include some sort of upscaler? im going to presume that nintendo are targeting 720P for the screen (maybe 540P if they are going to reduce clockspeed and dont want a burden of 720P on the hardware). it would be nice if that image could be enhanced before being sent to the telly.

5) BC: im hoping itll support everything up to the wii. the wiiu will clearly be too much to emulate. but itll have to be software emulation and thats not something nintendo seem too keen on.

6) using carts is interesting (again....a nintendo console built for the requirements of nintendo). itll be nice to have a console with good loading times where you dont have to install the frickin games. but how much?

That's completely irrelevant to my point.

I wonder what the price for this would be. If they came out at 249.99 it would be an extremely attractive and aggressive move, but I think 299.99 is much more likely. They cant price themselves out because the handheld perception regarding price (look at the 3DS when it first came out), so this will be interesting.

@WreckEm711: maybe they will have 2 SKUs

1) just the handheld. cant connect it to the TV. 249.99

2) the complete edition. handheld, base station and so on for 299.99.

@osan0: Ahh now there's an interesting idea, it would be a good way to give them a low entry cost with full functionality but gives people the option to cheaply upgrade for the home experience, I like it.

Lol ... you know why PS3 ended up having hard time last gen right? Was mainly its price ! Also the same happened with X1 with that 500 price tag !

Care what you wishing for.

I wasn't expecting there to be bc, but I alway believe they were going to make a a hybrid gaming system. And yet I believe it's going to take them awhile for Nintendo to put their old games on the new system. Just because they are slow like that.

@storm_of_swords: Very well said. I think most of the complaints are from non-handheld people. The kinds of gamers that think only Western third party titles are good. Those guys already have Playstation, Xbox and PC for that.

I'm with you on this. Gimme DIFFERENT games, like the kind we got on GBA, DS and 3DS. Those systems had GREAT third party support, only of the Eastern variety.

I'm not surprised, because Nintendo has proven time and time again that they're never going to make a console that can be worth serving as a primary system. On the bright side, at least I won't have to spend money on two Nintendo products anymore if the NX is going to be the handheld too.

No BC with 3DS or WiiU, potentially weaker than the Xbone, only selling point seems to be being able to take it on the go. Probably gonna be overpriced. I'll pass.

I will reserve final judgment till we find out everything buthat initially this smells of fail because it looks like Nintendo is miss reading the market again.

now if they are going to have virtual console and make us rebuy it again then nintendo can fail at their newest system

Not with those specs. Handheld portion might be great, but who the hell wants sub PS4 power in 2017 as their home console?

I think Iwata said once that the Virtual Console purchases will carry over to the NX from the Wii U.

They certainly did from Wii to Wii U, at least, so I think we can believe him on that.

that was Iwata, hes now dead and we have a new guy so idk if the new guy will keep the stuff iwata said

Honestly I don't care about the power, if two requirements are met:

• The games still look visually appealing (and Nintendo managed to make even their Wii U games look good, so I have no problems there)
• The lack of power does not hinder the number of games on the system (which it should not on the NX, presuming this rumor is true, because it joins Nintendo's console first party games, Nintendo's handheld first party games, Nintendo's handheld third party support, Japanese third party support, and some token western third party support)

Power itself is pointless- too much or too little of it is a talking point. Is it going to be interfering with my games? If yes, then I have issues with it. But ideally, the NX's lack of power shouldn't hold back the games, so I won't be caring much about it.

You do realize that game consoles are developed over multiple years? That you can't at whim change multiple hardware and policy decisions? And that the new guy said he would largely stay the course Iwata set for them with the NX anyway?

Hmmm I'm cautiously optimistic that this will turn out pretty decent... but time will tell I guess.

If the console is a portable then where does the Gameboy/DS handheld fit into the equation?

yes i do know game consoles developed over multiple years. well look at how microsoft first launch the xbox 1 and their crazy policy, it took them awhile for them to change. so i can see nintendo wanting to change so they can get more money out of us. do you have any link or proof that the current president of nintendo wants to stay on the same path has iwata?

Seems like I was mostly on the mark. Neat stuff. Bring the 3rd party and different 1st party games. It just might work...

Yes.

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Whatever this thing is you can bet your life Nintendo will ask for much more than what it's worth just like they did with Wii U. I can see casuals saying they want how much for a handheld you plug into a TV? F*** that.

It would be nice if they just designed a good f***ing console and started from there instead of constantly trying to get the most out of cheap, dated components. They're the videogame company that time forgot.

So it's not for people like you. Don't think for a minute that your kind are the only ones to be catered to.

My kind? lol. What is my kind? Can you please point out where I even implied that Nintendo should cater for me particularly? Oh wait you just pulled that out of your ass...