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Lems: It's not exclusive, it's multiplat since it's an updated game.[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]
is it a PS3 exclusive?!? it has only on PS logo
mitu123
Cows: It's exclusive because of the new content and it's only on PS3.
You decide.:P
The way I see it is that NG2 is 360 exclusive and NGS2 is PS3 exclusive, everyones happy,For me, anything that breaks immersion or seems out of place is a con. Ninja Gaiden is hardly known for grand storytelling, but it generally takes itself very seriously. Ryu wouldn't be caught dead in the outfits Ninja Blade's Ken wears, and he'd rather poke himself in the eye than endure a 3-minute quicktime event. It just doesn't belong--it's just another one of TN's "hey look--BIG BOOBIES" things, done at the expense of the game's immersion. If Momiji is saving the children from a fiend attack, shaking her boobs around doesn't add to the scene--it makes it a joke. If that's ok with you, that's cool with me! Kevin-VI wouldnt so much say thats a con considering the ammount of effort required to really giggle the boobs in the first place. I mean it obviously doesnt add anything to the experiance, but i dont think its existance takes anything away from the game either. Its still a better use of the sixaxis then to power up the ninpo attacks imo.
Superior version confirmed, I wasn't expecting it to get get AAA but it's definitely a solid AA title and how NG2 should have been.Swift_Boss_A
The camera still reeks, so that's disappointing. That should've been the first thing addressed, not some extra stuff and jiggly boobies.
[QUOTE="FireEmblem_Man"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]
Haha they listed the Sixaxis functionality as a con. :P Expected score though, same game, improved visuals, and more content.
Kevin-V
TBH, I sold my 360 copy of NGII just for the sixaxis feature and I find that a dumb reason to be a con....
For me, anything that breaks immersion or seems out of place is a con. Ninja Gaiden is hardly known for grand storytelling, but it generally takes itself very seriously. Ryu wouldn't be caught dead in the outfits Ninja Blade's Ken wears, and he'd rather poke himself in the eye than endure a 3-minute quicktime event. It just doesn't belong--it's just another one of TN's "hey look--BIG BOOBIES" things, done at the expense of the game's immersion. If Momiji is saving the children from a fiend attack, shaking her boobs around doesn't add to the scene--it makes it a joke. If that's ok with you, that's cool with me!I was actually making a joke of it. No need to be harsh ;)
I expected this game to be better than the 360 version due to my frustrations of the camera and those annoying small halls which makes it hard for Ryu to swing his sword around. The only thing that makes Sigma II better than the 360 II is the extra features. I must admit that I may have made a wrong decision selling my 360 copy.
You'd be surprised: A good number of things have been taken out and changed, so a lot of really hardcore players are in an uproar. A lot of people don't like the lack of blood for example. There are fewer enemies in general. No more windmill shuriken. The staircase fight might not suffer from insane slowdown, but there are fewer enemies to carve up on it. The real hardcore don't like that the game is a bit easier. The weapon upgrade system was changed, and some levels were mixed up a bit. In other words, there were things removed, and some folks aren't happy with that, and don't think that the additions compensate for the losses.Sounds about right. It's the same game with a few playable characters and co-op right? It stands to reason that it should score a little higher.
NeonNinja
[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Superior version confirmed, I wasn't expecting it to get get AAA but it's definitely a solid AA title and how NG2 should have been.BioShockOwnz
The camera still reeks, so that's disappointing. That should've been the first thing addressed, not some extra stuff and jiggly boobies.
dont care about the extra stuffs as long as the boobies are there LOL.
[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]
[QUOTE="Swift_Boss_A"]Superior version confirmed, I wasn't expecting it to get get AAA but it's definitely a solid AA title and how NG2 should have been.___gamemaster__
The camera still reeks, so that's disappointing. That should've been the first thing addressed, not some extra stuff and jiggly boobies.
dont care about the extra stuffs as long as the boobies are there LOL.
Haha, at least you're honest. :P
I can't decide whether the Sixaxis jiggling is the greatest or the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.
PBSnipes
If this gimmick catches on, I could not imagine how it would be implemented in Natal.
Maybe it would be awesome if it was just taken further. Imagine something completely Sixaxis controlled in the vein of flOw or Flower, only you are twisting boobs. All boobs all the time.I can't decide whether the Sixaxis jiggling is the greatest or the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.
PBSnipes
Better graphics, more fluid gameplay, less engine problems, more content, but with less gore and a lower difficulty (not that NGS2 will have any shortage of that; just the original was ridiculous). I'd definitely buy it had I missed out.
[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]
I can't decide whether the Sixaxis jiggling is the greatest or the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.
hashabnelah
If this gimmick catches on, I could not imagine how it would be implemented in Natal.
I prefer the Wii approach. We need a tangible accesory for this.Are you guys really more interested in boob jiggling than co-op, extra characters and extra missions?
Really?
:?
It really is no big deal that Kevin listed it as a con, because as he stated before, it simply just doesn't fit into some of the more serious scenes in the game.
As did I. Its a great score nonetheless for a year old game. If you played it on X360 no real reason to buy this version, though.Haha they listed the Sixaxis functionality as a con. :P Expected score though, same game, improved visuals, and more content.
tagyhag
[QUOTE="mitu123"]Lems: It's not exclusive, it's multiplat since it's an updated game.[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]
is it a PS3 exclusive?!? it has only on PS logo
Swift_Boss_A
Cows: It's exclusive because of the new content and it's only on PS3.
You decide.:P
The way I see it is that NG2 is 360 exclusive and NGS2 is PS3 exclusive, everyones happy, I agree with that, but the others don't sadly, well, most System Warriors.I would say Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is clearly better. It is a year later, and the game is on a system that boasts a number of incredible titles. The fact that NGS2 stands tall against them is a wonder. Itagaki is a talented man, but I rarely discount an entire team due to the loss of a particular individual or group of them. Blizzard gets by quite fine without Bill Roper, and in fact, Roper's game's since have hardly been universally praised. I am incredibly curious to see Ninja Gaiden III when the time comes, but I am hardly ready to declare Team Ninja to be dead in the water. In fact, some teams thrive when given room to express themselves, when perhaps that room was not offered before.So basically the extra year wasnt really that big of an ugprade if at all? It looks like Itagaki taking all the good dev's will hurt Team Ninja in future endeavors.
Fizzman
You'd be surprised: A good number of things have been taken out and changed, so a lot of really hardcore players are in an uproar. A lot of people don't like the lack of blood for example. There are fewer enemies in general. No more windmill shuriken. The staircase fight might not suffer from insane slowdown, but there are fewer enemies to carve up on it. The real hardcore don't like that the game is a bit easier. The weapon upgrade system was changed, and some levels were mixed up a bit. In other words, there were things removed, and some folks aren't happy with that, and don't think that the additions compensate for the losses.[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]
Sounds about right. It's the same game with a few playable characters and co-op right? It stands to reason that it should score a little higher.
Kevin-V
Maybe it would be awesome if it was just taken further. Imagine something completely Sixaxis controlled in the vein of flOw or Flower, only you are twisting boobs. All boobs all the time.[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]
I can't decide whether the Sixaxis jiggling is the greatest or the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.
Kevin-V
:lol:
One can only dream.
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]I would say Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is clearly better. It is a year later, and the game is on a system that boasts a number of incredible titles. The fact that NGS2 stands tall against them is a wonder. Itagaki is a talented man, but I rarely discount an entire team due to the loss of a particular individual or group of them. Blizzard gets by quite fine without Bill Roper, and in fact, Roper's game's since have hardly been universally praised. I am incredibly curious to see Ninja Gaiden III when the time comes, but I am hardly ready to declare Team Ninja to be dead in the water. In fact, some teams thrive when given room to express themselves, when perhaps that room was not offered before. Hey, regardless of what I said about me not liking the camera complain I think it is cool that you come here to discuss your opinion with SW users. I hope more GS reviewers did that.So basically the extra year wasnt really that big of an ugprade if at all? It looks like Itagaki taking all the good dev's will hurt Team Ninja in future endeavors.
Kevin-V
Your comment will only apply if someone has both PS3 and 360, and already paid for NG2 on 360. Since I bought it for 360 this applies to me. Price isn't the problem since I only got to the second chapter. Demon's Souls and Uncharted 2 are my next purchases, so I'll wait..5 worth $40 more? You decide!
Good score, though.
BioShockOwnz
"buh buh but ultimate ninja gaiden 2 experience,gonna be AAA,thanks for beta testing lems"
Kandlegoat
If the NG2 on 360 came out at the same time as this I'm sure this would be a 9.0 and not an 8.5 its just an old news game now and that has to factor into the score.
hahahaha! I remember that. Well no, there will be no sigma purchase this time for me. I bought Sigma and already have NG, NGB. I love NG2 but no amount of virtual breast shaking, or playable female ninjas can make purple fairy dust in NG acceptable for me. Should have left it "Samurai movie" bloody, Tecmo."buh buh but ultimate ninja gaiden 2 experience,gonna be AAA,thanks for beta testing lems"
Kandlegoat
Hey, regardless of what I said about me not liking the camera complain I think it is cool that you come here to discuss your opinion with SW users. I hope more GS reviewers did that.RedruM_IThanks! I can't do it often, but every so often I peek in my head. I'm a longtime GS user, from long before I was an employee, and was a moderator for years. So it's fun to poke around.
[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]
"buh buh but ultimate ninja gaiden 2 experience,gonna be AAA,thanks for beta testing lems"
If the NG2 on 360 came out at the same time as this I'm sure this would be a 9.0 and not an 8.5 its just an old news game now and that has to factor into the score.
I'm sure if the back opening on a dog was shaped like a square, it would poop bricks........that was the most ridiculous reach for an AAA score I have ever read. It's AA just like the 360 version. .5 better is all the difference SW can make of it. I'll pass especially if the camera wasn't fixed.I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it?By the way kevin, are you doing the Demon's Souls review? i am curious to see what you think.
zarshack
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Hey, regardless of what I said about me not liking the camera complain I think it is cool that you come here to discuss your opinion with SW users. I hope more GS reviewers did that.Kevin-VThanks! I can't do it often, but every so often I peek in my head. I'm a longtime GS user, from long before I was an employee, and was a moderator for years. So it's fun to poke around.
[QUOTE="zarshack"]I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it? I knew it, Kevin's a cow. :PBy the way kevin, are you doing the Demon's Souls review? i am curious to see what you think.
Kevin-V
[QUOTE="zarshack"]I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it?By the way kevin, are you doing the Demon's Souls review? i am curious to see what you think.
Kevin-V
If Kevin V will be the one to review DS i think around 7.5 to 8.0.. hope im wrong though.. :P
I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it?[QUOTE="Kevin-V"][QUOTE="zarshack"]
By the way kevin, are you doing the Demon's Souls review? i am curious to see what you think.
___gamemaster__
If Kevin V will be the one to review DS i think around 7.5 to 8.0.. hope im wrong though.. :P
Expect to see the game get exactly what it deserves! God knows I've already sunk in 50 hours, and I think I see a sleepless weekend ahead of me...[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"][QUOTE="Kevin-V"] I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it?Kevin-V
If Kevin V will be the one to review DS i think around 7.5 to 8.0.. hope im wrong though.. :P
Expect to see the game get exactly what it deserves! God knows I've already sunk in 50 hours, and I think I see a sleepless weekend ahead of me... Glad to hear! Btw who's doing the Uncharted 2 review?[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"][QUOTE="Kevin-V"] I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it?Kevin-V
If Kevin V will be the one to review DS i think around 7.5 to 8.0.. hope im wrong though.. :P
Expect to see the game get exactly what it deserves! God knows I've already sunk in 50 hours, and I think I see a sleepless weekend ahead of me...Is it that good?? Come on, you can tell me, whatever you say on this forum is between me and you :P[QUOTE="Kevin-V"][QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]Expect to see the game get exactly what it deserves! God knows I've already sunk in 50 hours, and I think I see a sleepless weekend ahead of me... Glad to hear! Btw who's doing the Uncharted 2 review? Well, I don't share all of our secrets! The review is coming, trust me.If Kevin V will be the one to review DS i think around 7.5 to 8.0.. hope im wrong though.. :P
navstar29
[QUOTE="RedruM_I"]Hey, regardless of what I said about me not liking the camera complain I think it is cool that you come here to discuss your opinion with SW users. I hope more GS reviewers did that.Kevin-VThanks! I can't do it often, but every so often I peek in my head. I'm a longtime GS user, from long before I was an employee, and was a moderator for years. So it's fun to poke around.
Cool! You're welcome! You should tell your colleagues that they shouldn't take us so seriously, afterall, we are just fanboys! :P No seriously, I know many people talk a lot of crap in forums and on the internet in general but, in the end, what we really care about is having fun with games (at least I hope so). I come here and talk crap as much as the next guy but in the end is all to exploit the fun out of the system wars! Reviews and all that stuff is just part of the fun. If you and I and a filthy lemming (;)) enjoy games then I'm sure we can get along pretty well, that means we have more in common than 90% of the people I know. Thanks for your hard work. My dad told me once that if what you do pisses off a lot of people you must be doing something right :)
[QUOTE="zarshack"]I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it? I will check on your tweets then :) i imported the game ages ago and i love it myself. put in over a good 140 hours or so very addictive =XBy the way kevin, are you doing the Demon's Souls review? i am curious to see what you think.
Kevin-V
[QUOTE="zarshack"]I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it? I just added you on Twitter :). I'm very interested in DS. Can't wait for it.By the way kevin, are you doing the Demon's Souls review? i am curious to see what you think.
Kevin-V
[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]hahahaha! I remember that. Well no, there will be no sigma purchase this time for me. I bought Sigma and already have NG, NGB. I love NG2 but no amount of virtual breast shaking, or playable female ninjas can make purple fairy dust in NG acceptable for me. Should have left it "Samurai movie" bloody, Tecmo."buh buh but ultimate ninja gaiden 2 experience,gonna be AAA,thanks for beta testing lems"
cainetao11
Yeah I loved the "shogun assassin" style geyser blood flow when dismembering in the original.
[QUOTE="Fizzman"]I would say Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 is clearly better. It is a year later, and the game is on a system that boasts a number of incredible titles. The fact that NGS2 stands tall against them is a wonder. Itagaki is a talented man, but I rarely discount an entire team due to the loss of a particular individual or group of them. Blizzard gets by quite fine without Bill Roper, and in fact, Roper's game's since have hardly been universally praised. I am incredibly curious to see Ninja Gaiden III when the time comes, but I am hardly ready to declare Team Ninja to be dead in the water. In fact, some teams thrive when given room to express themselves, when perhaps that room was not offered before.So basically the extra year wasnt really that big of an ugprade if at all? It looks like Itagaki taking all the good dev's will hurt Team Ninja in future endeavors.
Kevin-V
Yeah that could be true, but im just a worst case scenario kind of individual. You could be right, and hopefully are cause having two great developers just means more awesome games.
[QUOTE="Kandlegoat"]
"buh buh but ultimate ninja gaiden 2 experience,gonna be AAA,thanks for beta testing lems"
Uptown
If the NG2 on 360 came out at the same time as this I'm sure this would be a 9.0 and not an 8.5 its just an old news game now and that has to factor into the score.
if the 360 and ps3 versions came out simultaniously,don't you think they'd have the exact same features,and both score 9.0?..don't be a fanboy..
i'm not bashing on sigma 2,i'm merely just pointing out how funny it was cows fpr the longest time were praising how this game was gonna pulverize the original,yet as it turns out,with the exception of a sprinkle of content and upgraded graphics,they're both practically identical.
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