Ninja Gaiden Sigma 2 GS review: 8.5

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#101 Kandlegoat
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NG is a franchise 8-9 rated games. They are doing the same thing over and over again. However, Halos are 9+ games. To GS, Shooters are better than fighters.

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Professional reviews (especially mainstream reviews) are predictable,the same overhyped mainstream crap gets praised while the unique games get overlooked and receive only modest scores.that's why I just go by word of mouth or user reviews when seeking out new games.

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#102 Pariah-
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The boob thing is good for a giggle, but when Momiji is hugging a young boy and you can bounce her boobs up and down on his head, surely there's something wrong there. Maybe it's a dream come true for the kid, but my guess is that shaking boobies reduce the impact of such a scene in a game that takes itself relatively seriously. Maybe in the underappreciated and absolutely shameless Ninja Blade, but it seems weird here.

Of course, this IS Team Ninja. I often wondered if they have a breast development team there. I will say this: It's a better use than Ninja Gaiden Sigma's, which made you shake the controller to power up Ninpo.

I wonder if they hire models to test real-life boob physics? Just a random thought. Or what if they used the same functionality to jiggle Ryu's junk? The possibilities are endless.

Kevin-V

Stupid? *shrug* Fine. Whatever. It makes you sound suspiciously Navarro-ish (see also: his Rumble Roses review). However, I'm actually more concerned with whether or not you deducted points for something that was essentially irrelevant to the gameplay. What I'm hoping to hear is that just because you listed it as "The Bad," that doesn't necessarily mean you decreased the score.

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#103 LOXO7
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[QUOTE="LOXO7"]

NG is a franchise 8-9 rated games. They are doing the same thing over and over again. However, Halos are 9+ games. To GS, Shooters are better than fighters.

Kandlegoat

Professional reviews (especially mainstream reviews) are predictable,the same overhyped mainstream crap gets praised while the unique games get overlooked and receive only modest scores.that's why I just go by word of mouth or user reviews when seeking out new games.

Halo 3 to ODST pretty much the same. All NG's pretty much the same. The first one scores the highest and the rest go down in score. It seems shooters don't get this disadvantage though, like Halo.

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#104 SolidTy
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So much more content and only .5 better? MooSergeAndKid

What noise do Lemmings Make?

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#105 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="siLVURcross"]Gonna pick this up for sure. Loved the demo, and the funny usage of the SIXAXIS.TecmoGirl

That SIXAXIS feature wasn't in the demo was it? ...I forgot to pay attention to Ayane's breast when I played. :P

What!? Than what exactly were you paying attention to?

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#106 PS3_3DO
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So there is no Blood in this port? Camera is still bad at times.

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#107 Richymisiak
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[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]So much more content and only .5 better? MooSolidTy

What noise do Lemmings Make?

a rather quiet 'hrghhhfpharghmmhpharg' thats all i can think of anyway i think the whole sixaxis boos thing was just pointless and reeks of desperation for attention good review however

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#108 skrat_01
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Kevin-V posting? Very awesome. Anyway I miss the blood and gore.
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#109 BPoole96
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[QUOTE="___gamemaster__"]

[QUOTE="Kevin-V"] I am. I'll be showing the game on TOTS this week, so be sure to tune in. I can't preempt the review, but if you are on Twitter, follow me (I am fiddlecub). My tweets are thick with Demon's Souls thoughts. The PS3 is having an awesome year, isn't it?Kevin-V

If Kevin V will be the one to review DS i think around 7.5 to 8.0.. hope im wrong though.. :P

Expect to see the game get exactly what it deserves! God knows I've already sunk in 50 hours, and I think I see a sleepless weekend ahead of me...

I'm glad you're putting a lot of time into your reviews. Some of the reviews I watch/read seem rushed and its very evident that the reviewer didn't complete the majority of the game. I agree with your 8.5 score of NGS2.

Personally, I gave it a 9.5, but thats mainly because I've been craving to play this game for the past 3 months. One thing that you may have wanted to put as a con of the game is sometime during combat the game will randomly stop and load for a second or 2. It's not a huge deal, but it does kind of interrupt the flow of things in the midst of a tough fight. I still found it was a solid review and emphasized the strengths of the new content.

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#110 Vlaphor
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As someone who is a Ninja Gaiden fanatic, I'd have to disagree with the review. I haven't beaten the game yet, but what I have played feels like a step down from the 360 version. It has a good amount of new content, but they made too many changes to the underlying gameplay (many of which are for the worse, such as the overpowered new weapon, unlimited secondary ammo, and the new way that weapon upgrades are handled) and some of the new content is pretty bad (Momiji's level sucked hard, and she isn't that much fun to play as) for me to consider this a better version than the 360 version.

Since you can easily get the 360 version for $20 these days, get that one instead. It has better gameplay, a better camera, and actual difficulty.

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#111 BPoole96
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As someone who is a Ninja Gaiden fanatic, I'd have to disagree with the review. I haven't beaten the game yet, but what I have played feels like a step down from the 360 version. It has a good amount of new content, but they made too many changes to the underlying gameplay (many of which are for the worse, such as the overpowered new weapon, unlimited secondary ammo, and the new way that weapon upgrades are handled) and some of the new content is pretty bad (Momiji's level sucked hard, and she isn't that much fun to play as) for me to consider this a better version than the 360 version.

Since you can easily get the 360 version for $20 these days, get that one instead. It has better gameplay, a better camera, and actual difficulty.

Vlaphor

Which is the overpowered weapon? I felt all of them are pretty balanced

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#112 Cicatraz_ESP
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[QUOTE="PBSnipes"]

I can't decide whether the Sixaxis jiggling is the greatest or the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.

Kevin-V

Maybe it would be awesome if it was just taken further. Imagine something completely Sixaxis controlled in the vein of flOw or Flower, only you are twisting boobs. All boobs all the time.

I wish I hadn't said that. Because now it's all I can think about.

You should design games for a living.

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#113 Gxgear
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Good to know PS3 got the superior version, at the cost of receiving it a year later.

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#114 Couth_
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[QUOTE="Kevin-V"]

The boob thing is good for a giggle, but when Momiji is hugging a young boy and you can bounce her boobs up and down on his head, surely there's something wrong there. Maybe it's a dream come true for the kid, but my guess is that shaking boobies reduce the impact of such a scene in a game that takes itself relatively seriously. Maybe in the underappreciated and absolutely shameless Ninja Blade, but it seems weird here.

Of course, this IS Team Ninja. I often wondered if they have a breast development team there. I will say this: It's a better use than Ninja Gaiden Sigma's, which made you shake the controller to power up Ninpo.

I wonder if they hire models to test real-life boob physics? Just a random thought. Or what if they used the same functionality to jiggle Ryu's junk? The possibilities are endless.

Pariah-

Stupid? *shrug* Fine. Whatever. It makes you sound suspiciously Navarro-ish (see also: his Rumble Roses review). However, I'm actually more concerned with whether or not you deducted points for something that was essentially irrelevant to the gameplay. What I'm hoping to hear is that just because you listed it as "The Bad," that doesn't necessarily mean you decreased the score.

I'm pretty sure Gamespot reviewers have stated many times, games don't start with a 10 and lose points for things they do wrong. Just because it's listed under the bad doesn't mean they took off points for the review. It's simply a bullet point.

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#115 aaronmullan
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A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.
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#116 St_muscat
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A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.aaronmullan
Well it had that much new content, I'm talking full online modes and everything that the original almost seems just like the Single Player beta to the full game. With that in mind I'm not surprised at all that it did better, although I didn't except to do that much better, as its still a year old game at heart being released at ful price a year later.

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#117 Darth_DuMas
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Gonna pick this up for sure. Loved the demo, and the funny usage of the SIXAXIS.siLVURcross

lol I thought it was kind of creepy, I saw a trailer which had loads of Japenese men drooling with there mouths open slowly moving the Playstation controller up and down and then it showed Ayanes boobs slowly bouncing up and down.

About the creepiest game related thing I have seen in recent memory.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jhclfr79dTA

:cry: MAKE IT STOP!!!

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#118 Longcat2
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Weren't cows hyping this AAA?

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#119 themyth01
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This is a great game made even greater by refining graphics. This also shows how hypocrites the Sony fans are when they bashed NG2.
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#120 PAL360
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A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.aaronmullan

exactly, one more year creating more content. Great job :)

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#121 aroxx_ab
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Nice score and great game, will get this later down the road when it is lower price. I had 360 played NG2 so this is not top on the buy list, it is so many other great games coming now.

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#122 ImOldGreg
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I'm a big fan of gaiden, I'll be picking this up in the near future....good to see the Demon hayabusa costumes coming back on the disc...Nothing cooler then a devil ninja! :P
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#123 hot114
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Still struggling through NG:S - worsed camera evah!

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#124 surrealnumber5
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So much more content and only .5 better? MooSergeAndKid
beub control +.5
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#125 ZimpanX
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Ninja Gaiden Sigma--a game that handles the camera far better. Bad camera is bad camera. Kevin-V


Yes during the regular action sequences the Sigma 1 camera is the best one yet except when it comes to boss fights, then the camera in that game can be downright terrible as it will only focus on the boss (and doesn't do the best job at that), which is total pain on the higher difficulties when the boss decides to spawn minions as most of the time you can't see them as you can only just stare unwillingly at the boss if the camera doesn't get stuck in a wall.
Ninja Gaiden II addressed this issue as you can toggle between a locked and free camera mode during boss fights.

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#126 PS3_3DO
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A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.aaronmullan

The haters said that NG 2 is a flop so I guess this is a Flop too. ;)

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#127 DethSkematik
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Just picked up the game, and it's just as awesome as the 360 version (well, obviously, since it's essentially the same game :P). Those extras really are sweet, though ;). And, at least they give you a nice show to watch when you're waiting for that ridiculous install (these still exist in PS3 games!?) :P.
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#128 Hexagon_777
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Great score. I will purchase the game once it hits £19.99 or less.

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#129 Bread_or_Decide
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So much more content and only .5 better? MooSergeAndKid
Come its a port of a year old game. You expect them to be HOW excited for a game they've technically already played?
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#130 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.PS3_3DO

The haters said that NG 2 is a flop so I guess this is a Flop too. ;)

AAA franchise drops to AA is a flop. Outscore the original is not flop.
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#131 RichardStallman
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Looks like the 360 hasn't got any games left :lol:
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#132 AgentA-Mi6
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[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.PS3_3DO

The haters said that NG 2 is a flop so I guess this is a Flop too. ;)

Anyone remembers how NG2 was supposed to PWN MGS4 and what not, June 2008 was filled with Lulz.
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#133 AgentA-Mi6
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Looks like the 360 hasn't got any games left :lol:RichardStallman
Dead Or Alive IV, the Ps3 never got that one. Anyway, I can see why it scored higher than the regular NG2 but not as High as the first Sigma game.
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#134 mitu123
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[QUOTE="SergeAndKid"]So much more content and only .5 better? Moosurrealnumber5
beub control +.5

That was the complaint in that review.:P

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#135 Shoooryuken
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Hm. Should I buy it for 360 or PS3.. Even w/o this review I'd go with PS3. More Content and Boobage than 360. Why buy old Version over this Version? :P
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#136 2mrw
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great score, i thought it had a chance to score AAA, but who cares? it's still better, bigger and more fun than the original. gettig the game in the next few days.

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#137 Arjdagr8
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Ninja Gaiden 2 on the 360 seemed a lot more unpolished and I have heard many many many people saying how the game was cheap instead of being genuinely difficult, like ninja gaiden black. So i might end up getting NGS2. Im not a noob in the franchise, I did complete every difficulty on ninja gaiden black and all the missions (except for ninja dog mode :lol: )

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#138 ZippySlappy
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.5 worth $40 more? You decide!

Good score, though.

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Well for those souls that don't have a 360 and want some Ninja gameplay,it will be worth it. And i don't think MOST people buy games based on scores.
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#139 Animal-Mother
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I will wait for a pricedrop, but awesome gameGiancar
Same here. I'll buy it's when it's really cheap. Too many other things to play
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#140 cainetao11
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[QUOTE="PS3_3DO"]

[QUOTE="aaronmullan"]A year later port scoring higher than the first? :o Haters got owned.Bread_or_Decide

The haters said that NG 2 is a flop so I guess this is a Flop too. ;)

AAA franchise drops to AA is a flop. Outscore the original is not flop.

I remember cows saying this would get AAA. If a game had a year longer polish and added features, and didn't out score it's original, then the reviewer had a serious liking for whatever they changed, like um bloody sword play for purple fairy dust. It's NG so of course it's going to be good but it's also Sigma. Any gamer who has played the original and Sigma 1 has said it's easier. Now I wonder if Sigma 2 is lightened up?
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#141 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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[QUOTE="Kevin-V"][QUOTE="PBSnipes"] I can't decide whether the Sixaxis jiggling is the greatest or the worst thing to ever happen to gaming.

Maybe it would be awesome if it was just taken further. Imagine something completely Sixaxis controlled in the vein of flOw or Flower, only you are twisting boobs. All boobs all the time.

I wish I hadn't said that. Because now it's all I can think about.

you made me laugh at work :evil:
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#142 cainetao11
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great score, i thought it had a chance to score AAA, but who cares? it's still better, bigger and more fun than the original. gettig the game in the next few days.

2mrw
Wait you don't have it, but you know it's more fun? I'm renting it this weekend because I haven't experienced it yet. I let people know then.
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#143 2mrw
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[QUOTE="cainetao11"][QUOTE="2mrw"]

great score, i thought it had a chance to score AAA, but who cares? it's still better, bigger and more fun than the original. gettig the game in the next few days.

Wait you don't have it, but you know it's more fun? I'm renting it this weekend because I haven't experienced it yet. I let people know then.

you will find me on the NGS2 board, which btw likes the game so far.
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#144 LookAnDrolL
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The camera is a pain, the gameplay is fantastic, but that damn camera ugh
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#145 h575309
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[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Sounds about right. It's the same game with a few playable characters and co-op right? It stands to reason that it should score a little higher.

Kevin-V

You'd be surprised: A good number of things have been taken out and changed, so a lot of really hardcore players are in an uproar. A lot of people don't like the lack of blood for example. There are fewer enemies in general. No more windmill shuriken. The staircase fight might not suffer from insane slowdown, but there are fewer enemies to carve up on it. The real hardcore don't like that the game is a bit easier. The weapon upgrade system was changed, and some levels were mixed up a bit. In other words, there were things removed, and some folks aren't happy with that, and don't think that the additions compensate for the losses.

Obviously, I am not in that camp, but there are those that don't find the resulting pace adjustment to be a positive one.

Have they taken out the annoying ninja's with rocket launchers? I may pick it up if they removed those. That was just silly, and very VERY annoying.

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#146 2mrw
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Can anyone tell me how hard the game can be on higher difficulties??? it seems all the reviews and the comment are restricted to warrior mode.

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#147 Kandlegoat
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Weren't cows hyping this AAA?

Longcat2

quite a few did actually...

alot of cows stated the tweaked graphics and new content was gonna make NGS2 a AAA game and the ultimate Ninja gaiden experience (one or two people even stated it would be AAAA).Yet sure enough,the game only got a whopping point higher than the original,now we're gonna downplay it with some "buh buh but it's a port from a year old game,you can't expect them to re-review and praise a game they already played" apologist BS. :roll:

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#148 finalstar2007
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Can anyone tell me how hard the game can be on higher difficulties??? it seems all the reviews and the comment are restricted to warrior mode.

2mrw

So far the game dosent seem that hard.. i beat 4 chapters already but on the easy mode which is not warrior mode.. its a great game and not hard

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#149 Kandlegoat
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[QUOTE="Kevin-V"]

[QUOTE="NeonNinja"]

Sounds about right. It's the same game with a few playable characters and co-op right? It stands to reason that it should score a little higher.

h575309

You'd be surprised: A good number of things have been taken out and changed, so a lot of really hardcore players are in an uproar. A lot of people don't like the lack of blood for example. There are fewer enemies in general. No more windmill shuriken. The staircase fight might not suffer from insane slowdown, but there are fewer enemies to carve up on it. The real hardcore don't like that the game is a bit easier. The weapon upgrade system was changed, and some levels were mixed up a bit. In other words, there were things removed, and some folks aren't happy with that, and don't think that the additions compensate for the losses.

Obviously, I am not in that camp, but there are those that don't find the resulting pace adjustment to be a positive one.

Have they taken out the annoying ninja's with rocket launchers? I may pick it up if they removed those. That was just silly, and very VERY annoying.

I never got people's beef with the rocket launcher guys,just pay attention and use a smart strategy.and they go down easy.I can think of way cheaper enemies in NG2, like those Battlemech/Gundam looking guys.

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#150 h575309
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Can anyone tell me how hard the game can be on higher difficulties??? it seems all the reviews and the comment are restricted to warrior mode.

So far the game dosent seem that hard.. i beat 4 chapters already but on the easy mode which is not warrior mode.. its a great game and not hard

The first couple chapters are easy, well, from NG2 on 360. They get much harder towards the end.