[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Two things and two things only are to blame for the shooting. Our piss poor mental health care system and bad parenting. Neither guns nor games have anything to do with it.Cranler
Proper gun laws would prevent the ownership of the ar15. Absolutely no reason why anyone should be owning a gun like that. How did the mental health care system fail the people in this situation? No reason a person shouldn't own an AR-15. As for your question.....if you have to ask something like that, you clearly haven't been follow this thing past the actual shooting.
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Two things and two things only are to blame for the shooting. Our piss poor mental health care system and bad parenting. Neither guns nor games have anything to do with it.The_Game21x
Seriously? :|
Guns don't have anything to do with it?
What part of what I said did you not grasp, because I am not going to sit here and repeat myself?
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Two things and two things only are to blame for the shooting. Our piss poor mental health care system and bad parenting. Neither guns nor games have anything to do with it.AmazonTreeBoa
Seriously? :|
Guns don't have anything to do with it?
What part of what I said did you not grasp, because I am not going to sit here and repeat myself?
Oh I grasped it just fine, that's why I was compelled to question the stupidity of what you said.
Anyway, one would have to be pretty damned stupid to even think that guns had nothing to do with the shooting.
If he didn't have access to f***ing assault weapons (that is to say, if his mother hadn't bought them), this shooting wouldn't have happened.
[QUOTE="AmazonTreeBoa"]Two things and two things only are to blame for the shooting. Our piss poor mental health care system and bad parenting. Neither guns nor games have anything to do with it.AmazonTreeBoa
Proper gun laws would prevent the ownership of the ar15. Absolutely no reason why anyone should be owning a gun like that. How did the mental health care system fail the people in this situation? No reason a person shouldn't own an AR-15. As for your question.....if you have to ask something like that, you clearly haven't been follow this thing past the actual shooting. Its a combat rifle. Something only military and law enforcement should have access to. All Ive seen is that his mother was trying to get him committed to a psychiatric hospital. If the laws on commiting people for mental problems became lax enough for the shooter to have already been committed the hospitals would be over capacity anyway.
[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="dommeus"] Jesus Christ. It must be horrible where you live.seanmcloughlin
If he's American, as I am, no. Americans just luv der gunz, though!
I think Americans get off on the power they feel having a gun. Like carrying an extra d!ck.
Well, its kind of of a strange thing. Back waaaaay in the day, I think that right was instilled because of the fear of British troops invading your town. A different time (btw, no offense to the British). Its different now. I know people want their homes to be safe, but I think having an armory is a little excessive.
[QUOTE="clone01"] If he's American, as I am, no. Americans just luv der gunz, though!clone01
I think Americans get off on the power they feel having a gun. Like carrying an extra d!ck.
Well, its kind of of a strange thing. Back waaaaay in the day, I think that right was instilled because of the fear of British troops invading your town. A different time (btw, no offense to the British). Its different now. I know people want their homes to be safe, but I think having an armory is a little excessive. This. Plus we were at war with the natives, many relied on hunting to survive and law enforcement was nothing like it is now. Constitution is outdated.
I think Americans get off on the power they feel having a gun. Like carrying an extra d!ck.
Cranler
Well, its kind of of a strange thing. Back waaaaay in the day, I think that right was instilled because of the fear of British troops invading your town. A different time (btw, no offense to the British). Its different now. I know people want their homes to be safe, but I think having an armory is a little excessive. This. Plus we were at war with the natives, many relied on hunting to survive and law enforcement was nothing like it is now. Constitution is outdated. If they ban guns criminals will still have guns and if government goes to peoples houses and takes everyones guns away and someone breaks into your house with a gun then kiss your ass goodbye.
The guns used to shoot up that school was registered to the shooter's mother. Not sure what exactly you're referring to.
criminals guns are stolen and have serial numbers filed off. if the government goes to everyones house with registered guns and takes them away then you are defenceless.
government wont know who owns a stolen gun they will have the upperhand. breaks in will be more frequent might aswell take the cops guns away while you are at it and a cop isnt always gonna be there to protect you.
The guns used to shoot up that school was registered to the shooter's mother. Not sure what exactly you're referring to.
criminals guns are stolen and have serial numbers filed off. if the government goes to everyones house with registered guns and takes them away then you are defenceless. As guns are the only ways to defend yourselves
The guns used to shoot up that school was registered to the shooter's mother. Not sure what exactly you're referring to.
MonsieurX
criminals guns are stolen and have serial numbers filed off. if the government goes to everyones house with registered guns and takes them away then you are defenceless. As guns are the only ways to defend yourselves Against a criminal with a gun yes.
criminals will be more ballsy if government takes peoples registered guns away and break in's will be alot more frequent because they know the government took away peoples registered guns.
What about every action movie ever made? Don't they encourage violence too? And they also have much wider audience than video games. But I guess Hollywood is too big for them to take on. The fact is they need a scapegoat. If they support banning guns, they'd be disgraced by american public where everybody has guns. And they can't afford to blame media who makes celebrities out of spree killers. But If they blame videogames instead they lose almost nothing. Because videogames are widespread mostly within teenagers and guess what, teenagers can't vote! Problem solved.
I, for one, am tired of seeing video games being the scapegoat for everything wrong in our society, the rool of all evil, etc, etc.
Especially in light of the NRA's statement today. They do not really believe that video games are the culprit - they just want to find something, anything that would deflect blame away from guns. As well-intentioned video gamers, we cannot allow such a comment to stand. I'd say we start hitting at the NRA where it hurts - gamers must recast the debate as a matter of gun control and discredit the NRA.
chance of someone living in a nice house is gonna have a stolen is small. criminal be like f*ck it i dont give a sh1t if he's home i have a gun he probley wont.
[QUOTE="noobmuhaha"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="clone01"] Well, its kind of of a strange thing. Back waaaaay in the day, I think that right was instilled because of the fear of British troops invading your town. A different time (btw, no offense to the British). Its different now. I know people want their homes to be safe, but I think having an armory is a little excessive. This. Plus we were at war with the natives, many relied on hunting to survive and law enforcement was nothing like it is now. Constitution is outdated. If they ban guns criminals will still have guns and if government goes to peoples houses and takes everyones guns away and someone breaks into your house with a gun then kiss your ass goodbye. I'm not saying ban all guns but assault rifles should definately be banned.
Okay NRA, what do you honestly think is contributing more to the ridiculous numbers of gun deaths in America: violent videogames, or a national association that has been promoting gun use and interfering with gun-restricting legislation for decades?
I seriously doubt any of these kids had a gun rack in their bedroom like me with shotguns 22 rifles and m1 carbines before they were 10 years old. Parents arent truly teaching these kids whats the right or wrong time to use the guns since the beggining.
[QUOTE="noobmuhaha"][QUOTE="Cranler"][QUOTE="noobmuhaha"] If they ban guns criminals will still have guns and if government goes to peoples houses and takes everyones guns away and someone breaks into your house with a gun then kiss your ass goodbye. I'm not saying ban all guns but assault rifles should definately be banned. Hell no because criminals have stolen assault rifles. A firefight in a home invasion would be close quarters, assualt rifle wouldnt have much advantage. Grenades have been stolen too, should grenades be legalized.
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