OfficiaI HALO 3 Discussion Thread

It looks better than I thought it would, and that hd vid was ace. Ofc some games look better than it, but im more than happy with this.astiop

What I'm most happy with is shown there. The Grunts. They are little, ugly bastards this time around. Thats GREAT!!

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Harbadakus"]

Watched the HD version, Looks nice and all, some parts were pretty meh(I was hoping the humans would look much better).

Strange that some of the new multiplayer screens look much better than the singleplayer stuff. :?

Gameplay seems awesome though, I look forward to playing it.

MikeE21286

Exactly what I was thinking. Some of that just literally looked like Halo 2.

But look at the water fall at the beginning of the trailer. Looks worse than the MP Public Beta's Valhalla waterfall. And we all know that build wasn't the latest one.

I'm thinking Bungie just showed footage from old builds. I really don't care, but when you think about it, it makes sense. There was a lot of stuff in that trailer. And they couldn't have done all of that in the new builds which only seem weeks old.

But I don't care. This game looks epic.

This game launches in 2 months....2 months!! I mean my thoughts are exactly the same as yours (and the person you quoted) except for the fact that it could be stuff from old builds. There is no other shows....this is the last hype machine for Halo 3. Don't hold back now at all times.

Haha, thanks. For the laugh. Anyways, cinematic, you say? These Hunters come in FIVE different forms and vary in size. It is the second largest enemy in the game. These guys walk around just as commonly as combine soliders do in City 17. Cinematic, you say? There is air, sea, and land combat. Air craft carriers. Real-time nukes. Earthquakes, tidal waves, tsunamis, blizzards. There is a 2KM high space ship covered in rock. Vast oceans. Mountain ranges. Rail road stations.

Cinematic, you say? Crysis defines cinematic gameplay.

Beowulf935

You don't know what cinematic means do you? 50 kajillion different species does not make a game cinematic. XXXL enemies do not make a game cinematic. Mountain ranges, rail road stations, vast oceans.... I think you don't know what cinematic means.

Just because a game has all that doesn't mean the game has awesome mis en scene. Halo 3 looks to have that, that which Half Life 2 had before.

I look at all the Crysis videos, and I see nothing particularly immersive. Just big and flashy.

Go get banned? Are you the one that's harrassing me? I won't report you, because that was just petty.

[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Im guessing you still havent read up on the gameplay at all. Even though we keep telling you to. Better yet. Reads some of the previews. Watch the new video that have come out. That impressed me more than this trailer by miles and then some.FrozenLiquid

I wouldn't be talking if I were you. I've already got a beast of a computer to handle things beyond Crysis. While you're next upgrade is probably up to 2 gigs, I'm waiting 'til Vista recognizes my 4 gigs, which it probably never will.

If Crysis looked exactly like Far Cry graphically speaking, you wouldn't be hyping it. At all.

I've read all the previews, I've seen all the videos to prove their points. I'm still not excited. And I'm more of a PC gamer than you'll ever be.

Rig of 2007 - Q6600, 3Gb of XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX/1Gb HD2900XT, and P35 mobo. Shall i go on???

Then upgrade your sig, and I hope toGodthat you're using your rig for more than gaming.

In any case, just because we all have super rigs doesn't mean we automatically have better games. Half Life: Episode 2 will be a billion times better than anything Crytek can pull off.

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

[QUOTE="astiop"] It looks better than I thought it would, and that hd vid was ace. Ofc some games look better than it, but im more than happy with this.Bansheesdie

What I'm most happy with is shown there. The Grunts. They are little, ugly bastards this time around. Thats GREAT!!

Yea, they look meaner this time round. I hope they don't change their voices and the way they decide to make a run for it sometimes though :P

[QUOTE="MikeE21286"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Harbadakus"]

Watched the HD version, Looks nice and all, some parts were pretty meh(I was hoping the humans would look much better).

Strange that some of the new multiplayer screens look much better than the singleplayer stuff. :?

Gameplay seems awesome though, I look forward to playing it.

PBSnipes

Exactly what I was thinking. Some of that just literally looked like Halo 2.

But look at the water fall at the beginning of the trailer. Looks worse than the MP Public Beta's Valhalla waterfall. And we all know that build wasn't the latest one.

I'm thinking Bungie just showed footage from old builds. I really don't care, but when you think about it, it makes sense. There was a lot of stuff in that trailer. And they couldn't have done all of that in the new builds which only seem weeks old.

But I don't care. This game looks epic.

This game launches in 2 months....2 months!! I mean my thoughts are exactly the same as yours (and the person you quoted) except for the fact that it could be stuff from old builds. There is no other shows....this is the last hype machine for Halo 3. Don't hold back now at all times.

If so....then me owned :D

I think some parts looked amazing and some parts sub par with other next gen games. I want a full on direct footage of gameplay though where we see few minutes of one shot instead of 5 seconds.justforlotr2004

Yeah... Some parts look like total crap and others... Amazing.

[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Im guessing you still havent read up on the gameplay at all. Even though we keep telling you to. Better yet. Reads some of the previews. Watch the new video that have come out. That impressed me more than this trailer by miles and then some.FrozenLiquid

I wouldn't be talking if I were you. I've already got a beast of a computer to handle things beyond Crysis. While you're next upgrade is probably up to 2 gigs, I'm waiting 'til Vista recognizes my 4 gigs, which it probably never will.

If Crysis looked exactly like Far Cry graphically speaking, you wouldn't be hyping it. At all.

I've read all the previews, I've seen all the videos to prove their points. I'm still not excited. And I'm more of a PC gamer than you'll ever be.

Rig of 2007 - Q6600, 3Gb of XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX/1Gb HD2900XT, and P35 mobo. Shall i go on???

Then upgrade your sig, and I hope toGodthat you're using your rig for more than gaming.

In any case, just because we all have super rigs doesn't mean we automatically have better games. Half Life: Episode 2 will be a billion times better than anything Crytek can pull off.

[QUOTE="jujutheking"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Who wants to bet Bungie is gonna come out and say this E3 footage is from a build months old? :lol:

Honestly, it does looks like Halo 2, but that doesn't stop it from being impressive game play wise.

I'm thinking Half Life 2 is going to have a run for its money. A new king in the single player department is arriving.

FrozenLiquid

Na HL2 has noting to worry about.

I'm a much bigger fan of Half Life 2 than you.

Yeah, fanboy goggles off, this is the one to look out for.

For anyone who isn't afraid to admit it looks great, look at the beginning of the video again. Look at the waterfall. It looks like jack sh*t. Not even MP Public Beta's Valhalla looked that bad.

Methinks this is old footage.

Some parts of the trailer was looked like crap, but others like at point 00:40 when he getting into the car with the coop parner loooked amazing.While the part where they showed that women looked like an xbox gm.I love HL2 so stop.

[QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Im guessing you still havent read up on the gameplay at all. Even though we keep telling you to. Better yet. Reads some of the previews. Watch the new video that have come out. That impressed me more than this trailer by miles and then some.FrozenLiquid

I wouldn't be talking if I were you. I've already got a beast of a computer to handle things beyond Crysis. While you're next upgrade is probably up to 2 gigs, I'm waiting 'til Vista recognizes my 4 gigs, which it probably never will.

If Crysis looked exactly like Far Cry graphically speaking, you wouldn't be hyping it. At all.

I've read all the previews, I've seen all the videos to prove their points. I'm still not excited. And I'm more of a PC gamer than you'll ever be.

Rig of 2007 - Q6600, 3Gb of XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX/1Gb HD2900XT, and P35 mobo. Shall i go on???

Then upgrade your sig, and I hope toGodthat you're using your rig for more than gaming.

In any case, just because we all have super rigs doesn't mean we automatically have better games. Half Life: Episode 2 will be a billion times better than anything Crytek can pull off.

And it it was their first game.

I think Crytek has alot going for them this time round.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Im guessing you still havent read up on the gameplay at all. Even though we keep telling you to. Better yet. Reads some of the previews. Watch the new video that have come out. That impressed me more than this trailer by miles and then some.skrat_01

I wouldn't be talking if I were you. I've already got a beast of a computer to handle things beyond Crysis. While you're next upgrade is probably up to 2 gigs, I'm waiting 'til Vista recognizes my 4 gigs, which it probably never will.

If Crysis looked exactly like Far Cry graphically speaking, you wouldn't be hyping it. At all.

I've read all the previews, I've seen all the videos to prove their points. I'm still not excited. And I'm more of a PC gamer than you'll ever be.

Rig of 2007 - Q6600, 3Gb of XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX/1Gb HD2900XT, and P35 mobo. Shall i go on???

Then upgrade your sig, and I hope toGodthat you're using your rig for more than gaming.

In any case, just because we all have super rigs doesn't mean we automatically have better games. Half Life: Episode 2 will be a billion times better than anything Crytek can pull off.

And it it was their first game.

I think Crytek has alot going for them this time round.

Yep that sounds about right. Now they get to finally make they game they have always wanted.

i think it holds its own against games like lair, heavenly sword, and gears. it looks tons better than most oher games, its just its engine and art style are different. just because a game doesnt use the UE3 doesnt mean its horrible looking. raidenseven

Just about every next gen game with a decent budget looks good, just face the fact man, the graphics were hyped to the sky and it fell far below what people were thinking and no it's not the visual styling that makes it what it is, it just isn't up to par with UT3 or Crysis by a long shot.

The Textures are low res in comparison to Crysis, not only that, but they sport none of the powerful, but subtle effects that give Crysis it's realism look, it wasn't a design choice by Bungie buddy, it was a performance choice, if they could have made the tree's look like they do in Crysis I bet my ass they would have, instead they look last gen in comparison and the who paper like 2D mixed with 3D tree think they are doing makes it look like it's a whole gen behind Crysis, then you go into the fact that the lighting isn't even close to Crysis, and nor are the physics which are very important to gameplay of Crysis or what about the motion blur or the subtle realistic blur in the distance or the draw distance?

Quite simply the difference between Halo 3 and Crysis is as big as the difference between Gears of War and Halo 2

If so....then me owned :DMikeE21286

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Im guessing you still havent read up on the gameplay at all. Even though we keep telling you to. Better yet. Reads some of the previews. Watch the new video that have come out. That impressed me more than this trailer by miles and then some.Beowulf935

I wouldn't be talking if I were you. I've already got a beast of a computer to handle things beyond Crysis. While you're next upgrade is probably up to 2 gigs, I'm waiting 'til Vista recognizes my 4 gigs, which it probably never will.

If Crysis looked exactly like Far Cry graphically speaking, you wouldn't be hyping it. At all.

I've read all the previews, I've seen all the videos to prove their points. I'm still not excited. And I'm more of a PC gamer than you'll ever be.

Rig of 2007 - Q6600, 3Gb of XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX/1Gb HD2900XT, and P35 mobo. Shall i go on???

Then upgrade your sig, and I hope toGodthat you're using your rig for more than gaming.

In any case, just because we all have super rigs doesn't mean we automatically have better games. Half Life: Episode 2 will be a billion times better than anything Crytek can pull off.

HL2>>>Far cry.Duhh gms will eventually pass the ai and other stuff in HL2.Just like gms pass OOT, but HL2 rev physics system and had the gravity gun.

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

Killfox

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killfox"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="Killfox"]Im guessing you still havent read up on the gameplay at all. Even though we keep telling you to. Better yet. Reads some of the previews. Watch the new video that have come out. That impressed me more than this trailer by miles and then some.Killfox

I wouldn't be talking if I were you. I've already got a beast of a computer to handle things beyond Crysis. While you're next upgrade is probably up to 2 gigs, I'm waiting 'til Vista recognizes my 4 gigs, which it probably never will.

If Crysis looked exactly like Far Cry graphically speaking, you wouldn't be hyping it. At all.

I've read all the previews, I've seen all the videos to prove their points. I'm still not excited. And I'm more of a PC gamer than you'll ever be.

Rig of 2007 - Q6600, 3Gb of XMS2 RAM, 8800GTX/1Gb HD2900XT, and P35 mobo. Shall i go on???

Then upgrade your sig, and I hope toGodthat you're using your rig for more than gaming.

In any case, just because we all have super rigs doesn't mean we automatically have better games. Half Life: Episode 2 will be a billion times better than anything Crytek can pull off.

And it it was their first game.

I think Crytek has alot going for them this time round.

Yep that sounds about right. Now they get to finally make they game they have always wanted.

Yep Crysis does look like it plays amzing.If it does play amazing with those graphics it will be the current King, but HL2 is still better cause it did more for gming.

[QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Haha, thanks. For the laugh. Anyways, cinematic, you say? These Hunters come in FIVE different forms and vary in size. It is the second largest enemy in the game. These guys walk around just as commonly as combine soliders do in City 17. Cinematic, you say? There is air, sea, and land combat. Air craft carriers. Real-time nukes. Earthquakes, tidal waves, tsunamis, blizzards. There is a 2KM high space ship covered in rock. Vast oceans. Mountain ranges. Rail road stations.

Cinematic, you say? Crysis defines cinematic gameplay.

FrozenLiquid

You don't know what cinematic means do you? 50 kajillion different species does not make a game cinematic. XXXL enemies do not make a game cinematic. Mountain ranges, rail road stations, vast oceans.... I think you don't know what cinematic means.

Just because a game has all that doesn't mean the game has awesome mis en scene. Halo 3 looks to have that, that which Half Life 2 had before.

I look at all the Crysis videos, and I see nothing particularly immersive. Just big and flashy.

Go get banned? Are you the one that's harrassing me? I won't report you, because that was just petty.

I honestly have nothing to say, as I find Crysis to be the most immersive looking game yet released. I look at Halo 3 and all I think is "static". Crysis is "dynamic". I honestly think this:

Has more mis en scene than both Halo and Half-life.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

FrozenLiquid

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

Hell you can have almost no story at all ;)

Besides to dismiss Crysis is like turning your back to in incomming steamroller... Austin Powers style.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

FrozenLiquid

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

Actually I'd say the physics completely made Half-life 2 and so did the graphics, the game would have been an 8 without them.

Hell you can't do Half-life 2 without the physics, without them it would have been just another half-life clone with a nice story, but meh gameplay that was far past it's day.

i think it holds its own against games like lair, heavenly sword, and gears. it looks tons better than most oher games, its just its engine and art style are different. just because a game doesnt use the UE3 doesnt mean its horrible looking. raidenseven

Just about every next gen game with a decent budget looks good, just face the fact man, the graphics were hyped to the sky and it fell far below what people were thinking and no it's not the visual styling that makes it what it is, it just isn't up to par with UT3 or Crysis by a long shot.

The Textures are low res in comparison to Crysis, not only that, but they sport none of the powerful, but subtle effects that give Crysis it's realism look, it wasn't a design choice by Bungie buddy, it was a performance choice, if they could have made the tree's look like they do in Crysis I bet my ass they would have, instead they look last gen in comparison and the who paper like 2D mixed with 3D tree think they are doing makes it look like it's a whole gen behind Crysis, then you go into the fact that the lighting isn't even close to Crysis, and nor are the physics which are very important to gameplay of Crysis or what about the motion blur or the subtle realistic blur in the distance or the draw distance?

Quite simply the difference between Halo 3 and Crysis is as big as the difference between Gears of War and Halo 2

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Haha, thanks. For the laugh. Anyways, cinematic, you say? These Hunters come in FIVE different forms and vary in size. It is the second largest enemy in the game. These guys walk around just as commonly as combine soliders do in City 17. Cinematic, you say? There is air, sea, and land combat. Air craft carriers. Real-time nukes. Earthquakes, tidal waves, tsunamis, blizzards. There is a 2KM high space ship covered in rock. Vast oceans. Mountain ranges. Rail road stations.

Cinematic, you say? Crysis defines cinematic gameplay.

Beowulf935

You don't know what cinematic means do you? 50 kajillion different species does not make a game cinematic. XXXL enemies do not make a game cinematic. Mountain ranges, rail road stations, vast oceans.... I think you don't know what cinematic means.

Just because a game has all that doesn't mean the game has awesome mis en scene. Halo 3 looks to have that, that which Half Life 2 had before.

I look at all the Crysis videos, and I see nothing particularly immersive. Just big and flashy.

Go get banned? Are you the one that's harrassing me? I won't report you, because that was just petty.

I honestly have nothing to say, as I find Crysis to be the most immersive looking game yet released. I look at Halo 3 and all I think is "static". Crysis is "dynamic". I honestly think this:

Has more mis en scene than both Halo and Half-life.

I think ill crap my pants when i face those things. They are so huge.

Link? Proof? Crystal ball? FarCry is already better than Half-Life 2 IMO (gunplay, AI, non-linear/open-ended). Crysis is going to incorporate what made FarCry "One of the best FPS expereices since Half-Life" with everything else that made Half-life 2 great, without it being linear and scripted.

Beowulf935

I would love to see them try. You can't make non scripted events look like scripted events. It just wouldn't work. Ever wonder why they don't elaborate on the A.I?

Far Cry already better? Link or proof? I have Half Life 2's multiple GOTY awards to back that up. How about you?

You guys don't seem to understand, once you have an open ended game, you cannot have what is in a truly linear one. It's not possible. Both games are entirely different in what they're trying to achieve. That's why S.T.A.L.K.E.R couldn't be truly open ended.

I hate to jump in here but 9.2 for Far Cry - that had a 30 man dev team, german police breaking down their office doors (and confiscating all their equiment), rushed final levels and shoddy multiplayer.

And it it was their first game.

I think Crytek has alot going for them this time round.

skrat_01

Yeah you can have anecdotes for every single game dev. Bigger teams? Yeah sure, Bungie has a bigger team as well. They even took guys from ILM and Weta. So don't play the dev team card, alright?

Plus, you sound like one of those cows about Killzone. Let's just say most people don't agree with their logic.

looks good

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

FrozenLiquid

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

I agree and it was the best physics back then.HL2 was an amzing gm and is still the FPS king.Just like how many gms now have better adventure then OOT, but OOt is respected because of what it did during itr's time period.Same like MGS2 when people thought it's graphics was CGI.HL2>>crysis unless i change my mind when i play it.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

skrat_01

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

Hell you can have almost no story at all ;)

Besides to dismiss Crysis is like turning your back to in incomming steamroller... Austin Powers style.

Oh, no... I've been here for a long time bud.

Any graphically good game with a hint of decent game play, and hermits flock all over it. And they just never get it, so whatever.

HL2 won FPS goty for a number of reasons, and its no question that it was the best, and biggest step fowards in the genre since HL1.

No other FPS since HL2 has had such a good SP experiece. Not even Far Cry (it came out before) or Halo 2 (by a longshot).

This year it will be alot more interesting.

With Bioshock in the fray, it might be the victor of FPS SP gaming. Anyone who has played Shock 1 and 2 knows that ;)

[QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Link? Proof? Crystal ball? FarCry is already better than Half-Life 2 IMO (gunplay, AI, non-linear/open-ended). Crysis is going to incorporate what made FarCry "One of the best FPS expereices since Half-Life" with everything else that made Half-life 2 great, without it being linear and scripted.

FrozenLiquid

I would love to see them try. You can't make non scripted events look like scripted events. It just wouldn't work. Ever wonder why they don't elaborate on the A.I?

Far Cry already better? Link or proof? I have Half Life 2's multiple GOTY awards to back that up. How about you?

You guys don't seem to understand, once you have an open ended game, you cannot have what is in a truly linear one. It's not possible. Both games are entirely different in what they're trying to achieve. That's why S.T.A.L.K.E.R couldn't be truly open ended.

I hate to jump in here but 9.2 for Far Cry - that had a 30 man dev team, german police breaking down their office doors (and confiscating all their equiment), rushed final levels and shoddy multiplayer.

And it it was their first game.

I think Crytek has alot going for them this time round.

skrat_01

Yeah you can have anecdotes for every single game dev. Bigger teams? Yeah sure, Bungie has a bigger team as well. They even took guys from ILM and Weta. So don't play the dev team card, alright?

Plus, you sound like one of those cows about Killzone. Let's just say most people don't agree with their logic.

Crysis isnt truelly opened ended. If it was truelly open ended. Then where wouldnt be an end. The game will come to an end. Which is the zero gravity space ship. You wil eventully get there. How??? is up to you. STALKER is open ended and so is oblivoin.

[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

FrozenLiquid

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

Hell you can have almost no story at all ;)

Besides to dismiss Crysis is like turning your back to in incomming steamroller... Austin Powers style.

Oh, no... I've been here for a long time bud.

Any graphically good game with a hint of decent game play, and hermits flock all over it. And they just never get it, so whatever.

Same with Stalker.....

Hmmm.

Besides I could say the same about Halo - anything with that word in it, lems flock over.

If your thinking Crysis won't be all that based on Far cry I'd have to say you are in for one big surpise buddy.

Far Cry was a small studios first game, that small studio is now a much bigger studio with a gigantic budget. Far Cry probably had a budget a quarter of what Halo 2's was Crysis on the other hand has one of the biggest budgets in video game history perhaps double that of even Halo 3's money plays a big role and beo is right

Halo 3 looks completely static in comparison to Crysis, if you can't see that you need to get your eyes checked.

[QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

FrozenLiquid

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

Listen, just because Crytek has the funds, development time, man power, and experience to develop a ground-breaking engine, doen't mean that they lack any creativity or gameplay focus. In fact, they pretty much created an entire new gameplay engine. Not only have they encorporated new gameplay mechanics, they created an entire new foundation. Completely interactive, and destructible environment. And the environment is freakin' huge, and jam packed with variety.

Then why were you talking about the Hunter?

I honestly have nothing to say, as I find Crysis to be the most immersive looking game yet released. I look at Halo 3 and all I think is "static". Crysis is "dynamic". I honestly think this:

Has more mis en scene than both Halo and Half-life.

Beowulf935

Now Wikipedia won't save you, and neither will Dictionary.com, so don't run to them if I ask you what mis en scene is.

And see, once again, it's happening.

Most hermits are dismissing Half Life 2 and going with the prettier game, just like Doom 3. It's just so funny they're doing it over and over again.

I bet you with everythign I own, Beowulf, you wouldn't look twice at this game if it didn't have all that flashiness in front of it. Hell, when you tout about how evolutionary Crysis is in defence, which is why you're hyping it, I sometimes wonder why you've never heard of Penumbra: Overture.

Then again, I don't expect much from most hermits.

looks so sweet

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Killfox"]

I havent decided what i want my sig to be. I dont just put something there just to fill space. If HL2 Ep2 is going to be a billion times better than crysis. Then how is halo3 going to be better than HL2 Ep2???

Beowulf935

Easy. Ever see Valve and Bungie hype graphics alone?

And if you would just look at the damn trailer without scrutinizing the graphics -- The marine trying to face off the Brute in hand to hand combat, the drones taunting the Chief with marine hostages, the dynamic relationship between the Chief and the Arbiter. Cortana going into rampancy.

Half Life 2 did not get GOTY because the graphics and physics were fantastic. They made you believe you were living in their world. They did not need anything Crysis has. They just grabbed the player in ways you wouldn't understand.

And if you looked beyond the graphics of that trailer, you would see Halo 3 is doing the same thing. Honestly, it does not look like Halo 2 in terms of story telling, at all.

Listen, just because Crytek has the funds, development time, man power, and experience to develop a ground-breaking engine, doen't mean that they lack any creativity or gameplay focus. In fact, they pretty much created an entire new gameplay engine. Not only have they encorporated new gameplay mechanics, they created an entire new foundation. Completely interactive, and destructible environment. And the environment is freakin' huge, and jam packed with variety.

Bravo, I can't believe theres so many idiots who still think Crysis is just a pretty face, the fact is Crysis is bringing far more new things to the FPS genre gameplay wise then halo ever did.

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid "][QUOTE="skrat_01"]I hate to jump in here but 9.2 for Far Cry - that had a 30 man dev team, german police breaking down their office doors (and confiscating all their equiment), rushed final levels and shoddy multiplayer.

And it it was their first game.

I think Crytek has alot going for them this time round.

FrozenLiquid

Yeah you can have anecdotes for every single game dev. Bigger teams? Yeah sure, Bungie has a bigger team as well. They even took guys from ILM and Weta. So don't play the dev team card, alright?

Plus, you sound like one of those cows about Killzone. Let's just say most people don't agree with their logic.

Umm unlike Killzone Far Cry scored 9.2, and didnt flop..

By referancing me to a 'cow' deminished almost any respect I have for you. Seriously.

Dont get full of yourself please :roll:

[QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Then why were you talking about the Hunter?

I honestly have nothing to say, as I find Crysis to be the most immersive looking game yet released. I look at Halo 3 and all I think is "static". Crysis is "dynamic". I honestly think this:

Has more mis en scene than both Halo and Half-life.

FrozenLiquid

Now Wikipedia won't save you, and neither will Dictionary.com, so don't run to them if I ask you what mis en scene is.

And see, once again, it's happening.

Most hermits are dismissing Half Life 2 and going with the prettier game, just like Doom 3. It's just so funny they're doing it over and over again.

I bet you with everythign I own, Beowulf, you wouldn't look twice at this game if it didn't have all that flashiness in front of it. Hell, when you tout about how evolutionary Crysis is in defence, which is why you're hyping it, I sometimes wonder why you've never heard of Penumbra: Overture.

Then again, I don't expect much from most hermits.

STALKER didnt have amazing graphics and I still waited 4 years for it to come. It is now one of my favorite game of all time.

Last time I checked HL2 wasent hyped for its graphics.......

Same with Stalker.....

Hmmm.

Besides I could say the same about Halo - anything with that word in it, lems flock over.

skrat_01

Last time I checked you weren't here.

Half Life 2 was cast in Doom 3's shadow until the great 8.5 unveiling. It was like the geek game for most people. There was even a hermit like civil war. Once Doom 3 failed, then hermits started seeing the real light.

And yes, lems do flock over to Halo. It's like leagues above all other games. But with a plethora of other games out there, why just Crysis? Why just the Witcher? It's a shame, hermits try to be different, but they're only doing what the lems and cows do except they have better rigs (most of the time).

And it's funny, because now Crysis is out, hermits swear Far Cry was a better game than Half Life 2. Back then... no one ever argued. It's only since Crysis hermits have been going "Oh yeah, Far Cry was awesome". And save your breath typing that you've loved it all along.

Even my semi-casual friend, who adored Far Cry, and plays CS 1.6 and Battlefield and stuff, recently said to me "Hey, all these people like Far Cry now." Wonder why :roll:

[QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Link? Proof? Crystal ball? FarCry is already better than Half-Life 2 IMO (gunplay, AI, non-linear/open-ended). Crysis is going to incorporate what made FarCry "One of the best FPS expereices since Half-Life" with everything else that made Half-life 2 great, without it being linear and scripted.

FrozenLiquid

I would love to see them try. You can't make non scripted events look like scripted events. It just wouldn't work. Ever wonder why they don't elaborate on the A.I?

Far Cry already better? Link or proof? I have Half Life 2's multiple GOTY awards to back that up. How about you?

You guys don't seem to understand, once you have an open ended game, you cannot have what is in a truly linear one. It's not possible. Both games are entirely different in what they're trying to achieve. That's why S.T.A.L.K.E.R couldn't be truly open ended.

[QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Then why were you talking about the Hunter?

I honestly have nothing to say, as I find Crysis to be the most immersive looking game yet released. I look at Halo 3 and all I think is "static". Crysis is "dynamic". I honestly think this:

Has more mis en scene than both Halo and Half-life.

FrozenLiquid

Now Wikipedia won't save you, and neither will Dictionary.com, so don't run to them if I ask you what mis en scene is.

And see, once again, it's happening.

Most hermits are dismissing Half Life 2 and going with the prettier game, just like Doom 3. It's just so funny they're doing it over and over again.

I bet you with everythign I own, Beowulf, you wouldn't look twice at this game if it didn't have all that flashiness in front of it. Hell, when you tout about how evolutionary Crysis is in defence, which is why you're hyping it, I sometimes wonder why you've never heard of Penumbra: Overture.

Then again, I don't expect much from most hermits.

Its simply a well crafted horror indie game.

And people hyped Half Life 2 because it was the sequal to one of the best FPSs in existance, not to mention the most revolutionary FPS since wolf and doom.

Frozen I can't believe your clueless enough to compare DOOM 3 to Crysis, ID software made it very clear that Doom 3 was an old school shooter with fancy graphics, if you really think Crysis fits that mold even remotely then your not even worth it.zipozal

That did not stop the hermits from choosing that over Half Life 2.

Hmm... there's more hermits on this thread than lemmings. Interesting....

Well, I'm off to see Harry Potter 5 at IMAX now. Have fun everyone. And no matter if you love it or hate it, Halo 3 has you ;)

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"][QUOTE="Beowulf935"]Link? Proof? Crystal ball? FarCry is already better than Half-Life 2 IMO (gunplay, AI, non-linear/open-ended). Crysis is going to incorporate what made FarCry "One of the best FPS expereices since Half-Life" with everything else that made Half-life 2 great, without it being linear and scripted.

Beowulf935

I would love to see them try. You can't make non scripted events look like scripted events. It just wouldn't work. Ever wonder why they don't elaborate on the A.I?

Far Cry already better? Link or proof? I have Half Life 2's multiple GOTY awards to back that up. How about you?

You guys don't seem to understand, once you have an open ended game, you cannot have what is in a truly linear one. It's not possible. Both games are entirely different in what they're trying to achieve. That's why S.T.A.L.K.E.R couldn't be truly open ended.

No game can be truelly open ended. Same goes with crysis. Your going to come to a point in teh story that it ends. How you get there is up to you. If it was truelly open ended then why are they making this a 3 part series???

Penumbra isnt evolutionary or revolutionary...

Its simply a well crafted horror indie game.

And people hyped Half Life 2 because it was the sequal to one of the best FPSs in existance, not to mention the most revolutionary FPS since wolf and doom.

skrat_01

That's great you can use GameSpot's search feature.

And you don't know much about the adventure genre, do you? It's expected. I'll be talking to the "other" hermits about genres most of the SW hermits don't even care about.

I have to go now. People are waiting for me. Bye.

[QUOTE="zipozal"]Frozen I can't believe your clueless enough to compare DOOM 3 to Crysis, ID software made it very clear that Doom 3 was an old school shooter with fancy graphics, if you really think Crysis fits that mold even remotely then your not even worth it.FrozenLiquid

That did not stop the hermits from choosing that over Half Life 2.

Hmm... there's more hermits on this thread than lemmings. Interesting....

Well, I'm off to see Harry Potter 5 at IMAX now. Have fun everyone. And no matter if you love it or hate it, Halo 3 has you ;)

I can't wait to see Crysis out score Halo 3 :) hell we already know Halo 3 will be getting a 8 in graphics :lol:

[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

[QUOTE="zipozal"]Frozen I can't believe your clueless enough to compare DOOM 3 to Crysis, ID software made it very clear that Doom 3 was an old school shooter with fancy graphics, if you really think Crysis fits that mold even remotely then your not even worth it.zipozal

That did not stop the hermits from choosing that over Half Life 2.

Hmm... there's more hermits on this thread than lemmings. Interesting....

Well, I'm off to see Harry Potter 5 at IMAX now. Have fun everyone. And no matter if you love it or hate it, Halo 3 has you ;)

I can't wait to see Crysis out score Halo 3 :) hell we already know Halo 3 will be getting a 8 in graphics :lol:

Gamespot would lose a lot of credibility if halo3 scores higher than an 8 in graphics.