Official Resident Evil 5 Discussion Thread - KEEP IT HERE

[QUOTE="bethwo"]

Do some people find the controls really that difficult? I played most of the previous RE games, but not 4, and I quickly got used to the controls. So what is you can't walk when you shoot? If you did it would give you such an unfair advantage over the zombies.

3picuri3

This I do not really understand, how is the advantage / disadvantage that is currently in the game with the inability to move whilst shooting not based on the gameplay?

Does it really need to make sense?

You do realise that you can use the D-pad to select a weapon? Well, aslong as it's in either the left,right.top or bottom slot anyway. Maybe I just didn't notice but there isn't a way to change the location of an item in your inventory to make better use of the D-pad for selecting weapons/items, and no ability tochoose items with the D-pad's diagonal directions. I can agree with you about lazy design in that area, because it is pretty balls.

Do some people find the controls really that difficult? I played most of the previous RE games, but not 4, and I quickly got used to the controls. So what is you can't walk when you shoot? If you did it would give you such an unfair advantage over the zombies.

bethwo

You do realise that you can use the D-pad to select a weapon? Well, aslong as it's in either the left,right.top or bottom slot anyway. Maybe I just didn't notice but there isn't a way to change the location of an item in your inventory to make better use of the D-pad for selecting weapons/items, and no ability tochoose items with the D-pad's diagonal directions. I can agree with you about lazy design in that area, because it is pretty balls.

bethwo

[QUOTE="bethwo"]

You do realise that you can use the D-pad to select a weapon? Well, aslong as it's in either the left,right.top or bottom slot anyway. Maybe I just didn't notice but there isn't a way to change the location of an item in your inventory to make better use of the D-pad for selecting weapons/items, and no ability tochoose items with the D-pad's diagonal directions. I can agree with you about lazy design in that area, because it is pretty balls.

blitzcloud

I feel like such an idiot right now:oops:

Thanks for letting me know how to do the inventory right:P

And I just discovered you whistle by pressing L3+R3blitzcloud

[QUOTE="DeathScape666"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] No with my two hands.JohnnyDangerous1 PSN and if you have 360 which im on now Hellserge lemme finish this forged in the fir achievement and i'll join yaAnimal-Mother

I just watched the 360 walkthrough. There really are less zombies! :oTheGrat1

[QUOTE="TheGrat1"]I just watched the 360 walkthrough. There really are less zombies! :oDeathScape666

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

dark-warmachine

OXM review - 9.0

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=351171

RE5

* ++ An action spectacular with terriffic production values
* ++ Excellent co-op game
* ++ Huge variety of environments
* - Item management and control issues
* ? Will Evil arise from the ashes of Raccoon City? (whatever the hell that means)

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

blitzcloud

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"][QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

dark-warmachine

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]You can also sidestep their attacks...blitzcloud

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/resident-evil-5-hands-on-chapter1to3

Eurogamer hands-on from Chapter 1 to 3, contains possible spoilers.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="ANeuralPathway"]

If this game gets 9.5 I'm going to have to consider it a sign of the apocalypse(going by the demo anyway). Also, when are developers going to get sick of the slick skin look, it looks like ****.

3picuri3

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

dark-warmachine

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

Eyezonmii

Exactly. This isn't a game where you can run around and your accuracy is like your standing still. If you really don't like how you can't run and gun, you don't like RE, especially the REs before 4. Just gave myself the willies...

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] wtf you on about, skin look? Eyezonmii

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

dark-warmachine

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

SOedipus

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] how everyone looks like they just ran a marathon, or were just birthed. like they're covered in a thin coat of slime. like Uncharted.-DrRobotnik-

[QUOTE="SOedipus"][QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

-DrRobotnik-

Exactly what I was thinking. Every step Gears took, it took the gaming community two steps back.

[QUOTE="-DrRobotnik-"][QUOTE="SOedipus"] Have you ever played a Resident Evil game before? If you could move and shoot at the same time then they would might as well change the title of the game.SquallZEROX

Exactly what I was thinking. Every step Gears took, it took the gaming community two steps back.

Do you people not read my other comments? I made some suggestions on what capcom could do if they plan on keeping their current mechanic "stop and point" they should allow you to at least counter some of the attacks, or make the enemy AI more aggressive and add variety in their attacks if they choose to go the Dead Space route which I prefer.dark-warmachine

Go play Dead Space then. This is Resident Evil, whoops forgot to put spoilers. You don't like the mechanics, you don't like the game. I had more fun with the RE4 stop and shoot style than with Dead Space pace and shoot, though I was happy to see a good survival-horror game in space.

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]Do you people not read my other comments? I made some suggestions on what capcom could do if they plan on keeping their current mechanic "stop and point" they should allow you to at least counter some of the attacks, or make the enemy AI more aggressive and add variety in their attacks if they choose to go the Dead Space route which I prefer.SquallZEROX

Go play Dead Space then. This is Resident Evil, whoops forgot to put spoilers. You don't like the mechanics, you don't like the game. I had more fun with the RE4 stop and shoot style than with Dead Space pace and shoot, though I was happy to see a good survival-horror game in space.

[QUOTE="dark-warmachine"]Do you people not read my other comments? I made some suggestions on what capcom could do if they plan on keeping their current mechanic "stop and point" they should allow you to at least counter some of the attacks, or make the enemy AI more aggressive and add variety in their attacks if they choose to go the Dead Space route which I prefer.SquallZEROX

To make a break from the discussions, i'll show you part of a drawing i'm making xD

Tried my best to make it look like Chris, verdict?

To make a break from the discussions, i'll show you part of a drawing i'm making xD

Tried my best to make it look like Chris, verdict?

blitzcloud

well, actually it's not finished and i'm aware of the mouth. But the shoulders are like that because he had a "holding gun down position". But I feel like constantly doing them though

As for you saying that you could do better, I guess you're an aartist too? Got any link to a gallery? (not being competitive, just wanting to know more)

To make a break from the discussions, i'll show you part of a drawing i'm making xD

Tried my best to make it look like Chris, verdict?

blitzcloud

To make a break from the discussions, i'll show you part of a drawing i'm making xD

Tried my best to make it look like Chris, verdict?

blitzcloud

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/resident-evil-5-hands-on-chapter1to3

Eurogamer hands-on from Chapter 1 to 3, contains possible spoilers.

Salt_The_Fries

The author said there were elements of racism in RE5, to the point that it made him uncomfortable.

I tried putting the specific incidents in spoiler tags, but Glitchspot wasn't being cooperative, so you'll just have to avoid them if you're that sensitive.

There's also the spectre of the old racism debate, hovering the background. That debate is only going to get louder and more urgent once the game is released, and is being covered beyond the cosy world of the specialist gaming press, since there's imagery in here that goes beyond the general air of foreign menace that caused a ruckus in the first trailers.

One of the first things you see in the game, seconds after taking control of Chris Redfield, is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed, but these are not infected Majini. There are no red bloodshot eyes. These are ordinary Africans, who stop and stare at you menacingly as you approach. Since the Majini are not undead corpses, and are capable of driving vehicles, handling weapons and even using guns, it makes the line between the infected monsters and African civilians uncomfortably vague. Where Africans are concerned, the game seems to be suggesting, bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory.

Later on, there's a cut-scene of a white blonde woman being dragged off, screaming, by black men. When you attempt to rescue her, she's been turned and must be killed. If this has any relevance to the story it's not apparent in the first three chapters, and it plays so blatantly into the old clichés of the dangerous "dark continent" and the primitive lust of its inhabitants that you'd swear the game was written in the 1920s. That Sheva neatly fits the approved Hollywood model of the light-skinned black heroine, and talks more like Lara Croft than her thickly-accented foes, merely compounds the problem rather than easing it. There are even more outrageous and outdated images to be found later in the game, stuff that I was honestly surprised to see in 2009, but Capcom has specifically asked that details of these scenes remain under wraps for now, whether for these reasons we don't know.

There will be plenty of people who refuse to see anything untoward in this material. "It wasn't racist when the enemies were Spanish in Resident Evil 4," goes the argument, but then the Spanish don't have the baggage of being stereotyped as subhuman animals for the past two hundred years. It's perfectly possible to use Africa as the setting for a powerful and troubling horror story, but when you're applying the concept of people being turned into savage monsters onto an actual ethnic group that has long been misrepresented as savage monsters, it's hard to see how elements of race weren't going to be a factor.

All it will take is for one mainstream media outlet to show the heroic Chris Redfield stamping on the face of a black woman, splattering her skull, and the controversy over Manhunt 2 will seem quaint by comparison. If we're going to accept this sort of imagery in games then questions are going be asked, these questions will have merit, and we're going to need a more convincing answer than "lol it's just a game." Eurogamer

This worries me. We all agree that there's no merit to the argument that the game is racist just because black zombies are being killed. But if imagery like this is prominently used throughout the game, it's going to be much harder to fend off charges of racism. I'm very concerned that Capcom has stepped into a minefield without really being aware of what it was meddling in, and the damage that could do (or the issues it could expose) with the way video games treat narrative is slightly distressing.

Stop and point is so lame, especially when a few enemies can evade by side stepping which kind of gives the player a disadvantage. I rather move slowly and be able to shoot while moving like in Dead Space.

dark-warmachine

FIRST REAL RE5 REVIEW!!!!!

Just as we expected, the german GamePro indeed is the first magazine on earth to completely review Resident Evil 5. Unlike the previous reviews from magazines like OPM US, GamePro was able to play through the whole game and therefore is world-exclusively reviewing Resident Evil 5. The playthrough happened at the secret event in HamburgI mentioned in a previous news post.

Here are a few details (minor spoilers included):

- GamePro could only make their own screenshots of the first three chapters. The later ones, they had to use Capcom's images due to an embargo

- It is all about the Progenitor virus

- Resident Evil 5 changes locations more often than Resident Evil 4 and the pace moves on immensly, especially after the first 10 minutes.

- The game is about 18 hours long.

- There's no location that is as big as the castle area in Resident Evil 4.

- The game is divided in 6 big chapters, each of them again divided into 3-4 areas.

- After the refinery, the game goes more for darkness (pyramids)

- GamePro counted1 (!!!) real puzzle in Resident Evil 5.

- The emphasis is clearly on Co-Op. When a character is investigating something alone it usually deals with finding a key or moving something. GamePro says that these are the most intriguing situations as you wish your partner would be with you and help you fight the hordes of enemies.

- A few old enemies are indeed in Resident Evil 5 (like the Licker)

- GamePro found the fights with Wesker very cool. They are absolutely dramatic and stunning.

- The visuals and audio are top notch.

- The PS3 version suffers a few glitches here and there, but they are not heavy.

- Resident Evil is gone, long live Resident Evil.

- They describe the game as an extremely entertaining, quick Tour de France with less horror.

- The overall review score is 93% for both PS3 and Xbox360 versions. Added to the PS3 graphics score was a note that the PS3 version suffers minor issues. GamePro's usual, separate multiplayer score for the game is 10/10.

- After completion of the game graphic filters, unlimited ammo, alternate costumes and an "arcade mode" among other things become available.

- The review doesnt contain many new or interesting screenshots, but here are the article pages. My scanner stopped to work therefore i had to use my digi-cam.

93 / 100

Eyezonmii

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/resident-evil-5-hands-on-chapter1to3

Eurogamer hands-on from Chapter 1 to 3, contains possible spoilers.

The author said there were elements of racism in RE5, to the point that it made him uncomfortable.

I tried putting the specific incidents in spoiler tags, but Glitchspot wasn't being cooperative, so you'll just have to avoid them if you're that sensitive.

[QUOTE="Eurogamer"]

There's also the spectre of the old racism debate, hovering the background. That debate is only going to get louder and more urgent once the game is released, and is being covered beyond the cosy world of the specialist gaming press, since there's imagery in here that goes beyond the general air of foreign menace that caused a ruckus in the first trailers.

One of the first things you see in the game, seconds after taking control of Chris Redfield, is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed, but these are not infected Majini. There are no red bloodshot eyes. These are ordinary Africans, who stop and stare at you menacingly as you approach. Since the Majini are not undead corpses, and are capable of driving vehicles, handling weapons and even using guns, it makes the line between the infected monsters and African civilians uncomfortably vague. Where Africans are concerned, the game seems to be suggesting, bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory.

Later on, there's a cut-scene of a white blonde woman being dragged off, screaming, by black men. When you attempt to rescue her, she's been turned and must be killed. If this has any relevance to the story it's not apparent in the first three chapters, and it plays so blatantly into the old clichés of the dangerous "dark continent" and the primitive lust of its inhabitants that you'd swear the game was written in the 1920s. That Sheva neatly fits the approved Hollywood model of the light-skinned black heroine, and talks more like Lara Croft than her thickly-accented foes, merely compounds the problem rather than easing it. There are even more outrageous and outdated images to be found later in the game, stuff that I was honestly surprised to see in 2009, but Capcom has specifically asked that details of these scenes remain under wraps for now, whether for these reasons we don't know.

There will be plenty of people who refuse to see anything untoward in this material. "It wasn't racist when the enemies were Spanish in Resident Evil 4," goes the argument, but then the Spanish don't have the baggage of being stereotyped as subhuman animals for the past two hundred years. It's perfectly possible to use Africa as the setting for a powerful and troubling horror story, but when you're applying the concept of people being turned into savage monsters onto an actual ethnic group that has long been misrepresented as savage monsters, it's hard to see how elements of race weren't going to be a factor.

All it will take is for one mainstream media outlet to show the heroic Chris Redfield stamping on the face of a black woman, splattering her skull, and the controversy over Manhunt 2 will seem quaint by comparison. If we're going to accept this sort of imagery in games then questions are going be asked, these questions will have merit, and we're going to need a more convincing answer than "lol it's just a game."

This worries me. We all agree that there's no merit to the argument that the game is racist just because black zombies are being killed. But if imagery like this is prominently used throughout the game, it's going to be much harder to fend off charges of racism. I'm very concerned that Capcom has stepped into a minefield without really being aware of what it was meddling in, and the damage that could do (or the issues it could expose) with the way video games treat narrative is slightly distressing.

Am I really the only one who thinks the direction and the game (so far from what i played in the demo) was bad? Ive been a huge fan of the series since the orginal game and i found this game to be horrible. What happen to the hardcore fanbase this game had? The game turned from an actual survival horror with great puzzles and atomspheric elements to this typical casual fps like game. I hated the game,it was a big turn off. Imo they really dropped the ball, tried way to hard to be like everyone else. Although im sure everyone will give it a AAA because it has guns and its a sequal to the best game last gen, i still feel like it was bad. Horrible controls, the worst inventory system ever (if you like it, then play the thousands of games that have it but the whole pause and change was a huge aspect of the original RE games) and the A.I was not even that different (if not worse imo) than RE4. Its sad to see such a great series turn into something its not, its great for those people who like what everyone else is doing but for those of us who like how things were, the game dropped the ball.mexicangordo

Tried my best to make it look like Chris, verdict?blitzcloud

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]Tried my best to make it look like Chris, verdict?TheGrat1

didnt have the chance to play co-op in the demo... those who did what do you think? is it fun?

didnt have the chance to play co-op in the demo... those who did what do you think? is it fun?

Malta_1980