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I totally agree with Eurogamer. it is no coincidence that Capcom chose specifically to use a light-skinned woman. I bet if she was dark skin, people would not want to use her. infact, there is no point of Sheva in the game, the only reason she is in the game is for people not to actually shout racism, because if it was only Chris running around killing African zombies..., I dont think RE 5 will be released today, the media would make sure it suffers the same fate as Manhunt. Also, if the main protagonist was African, people would complain.lol. Capcom is in a predicament.MightyMuna

[QUOTE="MightyMuna"]I totally agree with Eurogamer. it is no coincidence that Capcom chose specifically to use a light-skinned woman. I bet if she was dark skin, people would not want to use her. infact, there is no point of Sheva in the game, the only reason she is in the game is for people not to actually shout racism, because if it was only Chris running around killing African zombies..., I dont think RE 5 will be released today, the media would make sure it suffers the same fate as Manhunt. Also, if the main protagonist was African, people would complain.lol. Capcom is in a predicament.Eyezonmii

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]I totally agree with Eurogamer. it is no coincidence that Capcom chose specifically to use a light-skinned woman. I bet if she was dark skin, people would not want to use her. infact, there is no point of Sheva in the game, the only reason she is in the game is for people not to actually shout racism, because if it was only Chris running around killing African zombies..., I dont think RE 5 will be released today, the media would make sure it suffers the same fate as Manhunt. Also, if the main protagonist was African, people would complain.lol. Capcom is in a predicament.TREAL_Since

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] God how wrong you are, stop blowing things out of proportion, you're exaggerating. and...what about RE4? That shoots down your argument. Capcom said from the start it was all about co-op and i believe them, the buddy system, team work all seems like it was well thought out...Sheva is also an agent assigned to help chris around the African areas. You don't know anything, your just simply hating on the game as usual. And why complain? Africa isn't just blacks is it? I can see from the demo that black women have been taken out and whites have been added in..to balance things. The Media won't do anything. This isn't a white male killing normal human blacks, but an white male with a black female taking down INFECTED and inhuman people, who aren't there right mind. The people who consider this racist, are racist them selves. McdonaIdsGuy

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/resident-evil-5-hands-on-chapter1to3

Eurogamer hands-on from Chapter 1 to 3, contains possible spoilers.

sonicmj1

The author said there were elements of racism in RE5, to the point that it made him uncomfortable.

I tried putting the specific incidents in spoiler tags, but Glitchspot wasn't being cooperative, so you'll just have to avoid them if you're that sensitive.

There's also the spectre of the old racism debate, hovering the background. That debate is only going to get louder and more urgent once the game is released, and is being covered beyond the cosy world of the specialist gaming press, since there's imagery in here that goes beyond the general air of foreign menace that caused a ruckus in the first trailers.

One of the first things you see in the game, seconds after taking control of Chris Redfield, is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed, but these are not infected Majini. There are no red bloodshot eyes. These are ordinary Africans, who stop and stare at you menacingly as you approach. Since the Majini are not undead corpses, and are capable of driving vehicles, handling weapons and even using guns, it makes the line between the infected monsters and African civilians uncomfortably vague. Where Africans are concerned, the game seems to be suggesting, bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory.

Later on, there's a cut-scene of a white blonde woman being dragged off, screaming, by black men. When you attempt to rescue her, she's been turned and must be killed. If this has any relevance to the story it's not apparent in the first three chapters, and it plays so blatantly into the old clichés of the dangerous "dark continent" and the primitive lust of its inhabitants that you'd swear the game was written in the 1920s. That Sheva neatly fits the approved Hollywood model of the light-skinned black heroine, and talks more like Lara Croft than her thickly-accented foes, merely compounds the problem rather than easing it. There are even more outrageous and outdated images to be found later in the game, stuff that I was honestly surprised to see in 2009, but Capcom has specifically asked that details of these scenes remain under wraps for now, whether for these reasons we don't know.

There will be plenty of people who refuse to see anything untoward in this material. "It wasn't racist when the enemies were Spanish in Resident Evil 4," goes the argument, but then the Spanish don't have the baggage of being stereotyped as subhuman animals for the past two hundred years. It's perfectly possible to use Africa as the setting for a powerful and troubling horror story, but when you're applying the concept of people being turned into savage monsters onto an actual ethnic group that has long been misrepresented as savage monsters, it's hard to see how elements of race weren't going to be a factor.

All it will take is for one mainstream media outlet to show the heroic Chris Redfield stamping on the face of a black woman, splattering her skull, and the controversy over Manhunt 2 will seem quaint by comparison. If we're going to accept this sort of imagery in games then questions are going be asked, these questions will have merit, and we're going to need a more convincing answer than "lol it's just a game." Eurogamer

This worries me. We all agree that there's no merit to the argument that the game is racist just because black zombies are being killed. But if imagery like this is prominently used throughout the game, it's going to be much harder to fend off charges of racism. I'm very concerned that Capcom has stepped into a minefield without really being aware of what it was meddling in, and the damage that could do (or the issues it could expose) with the way video games treat narrative is slightly distressing.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="MightyMuna"]I totally agree with Eurogamer. it is no coincidence that Capcom chose specifically to use a light-skinned woman. I bet if she was dark skin, people would not want to use her. infact, there is no point of Sheva in the game, the only reason she is in the game is for people not to actually shout racism, because if it was only Chris running around killing African zombies..., I dont think RE 5 will be released today, the media would make sure it suffers the same fate as Manhunt. Also, if the main protagonist was African, people would complain.lol. Capcom is in a predicament.TREAL_Since

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

I can see this co - op gameplay getting some huge critcism. I will also agree it spoils the atmosphere and is annoying. I haven't tried the demo out but I will see what I think. Overall though I am still getting the game though.chocolate1325

If we want to nitpick we could say that the cutscene of the demo is also racist, because when the megaphone guy points to us (Chris and Sheva) the two close-ups are from the only "real black" models of the game.

But the problem is we consider "black and white" instead of just plagas... that alone gives room to the racist problem to exist.

If we want to nitpick we could say that the cutscene of the demo is also racist, because when the megaphone guy points to us (Chris and Sheva) the two close-ups are from the only "real black" models of the game.

But the problem is we consider "black and white" instead of just plagas... that alone gives room to the racist problem to exist.

blitzcloud

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

If we want to nitpick we could say that the cutscene of the demo is also racist, because when the megaphone guy points to us (Chris and Sheva) the two close-ups are from the only "real black" models of the game.

But the problem is we consider "black and white" instead of just plagas... that alone gives room to the racist problem to exist.

IronBass

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

If we want to nitpick we could say that the cutscene of the demo is also racist, because when the megaphone guy points to us (Chris and Sheva) the two close-ups are from the only "real black" models of the game.

But the problem is we consider "black and white" instead of just plagas... that alone gives room to the racist problem to exist.

Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] God how wrong you are, stop blowing things out of proportion, you're exaggerating. and...what about RE4? That shoots down your argument. Capcom said from the start it was all about co-op and i believe them, the buddy system, team work all seems like it was well thought out...Sheva is also an agent assigned to help chris around the African areas. You don't know anything, your just simply hating on the game as usual. And why complain? Africa isn't just blacks is it? I can see from the demo that black women have been taken out and whites have been added in..to balance things. The Media won't do anything. This isn't a white male killing normal human blacks, but an white male with a black female taking down INFECTED and inhuman people, who aren't there right mind. The people who consider this racist, are racist them selves. McdonaIdsGuy

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

[QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

The author said there were elements of racism in RE5, to the point that it made him uncomfortable.

I tried putting the specific incidents in spoiler tags, but Glitchspot wasn't being cooperative, so you'll just have to avoid them if you're that sensitive.

[QUOTE="Eurogamer"]

There's also the spectre of the old racism debate, hovering the background. That debate is only going to get louder and more urgent once the game is released, and is being covered beyond the cosy world of the specialist gaming press, since there's imagery in here that goes beyond the general air of foreign menace that caused a ruckus in the first trailers.

One of the first things you see in the game, seconds after taking control of Chris Redfield, is a gang of African men brutally beating something in a sack. Animal or human, it's never revealed, but these are not infected Majini. There are no red bloodshot eyes. These are ordinary Africans, who stop and stare at you menacingly as you approach. Since the Majini are not undead corpses, and are capable of driving vehicles, handling weapons and even using guns, it makes the line between the infected monsters and African civilians uncomfortably vague. Where Africans are concerned, the game seems to be suggesting, bloodthirsty savagery just comes with the territory.

Later on, there's a cut-scene of a white blonde woman being dragged off, screaming, by black men. When you attempt to rescue her, she's been turned and must be killed. If this has any relevance to the story it's not apparent in the first three chapters, and it plays so blatantly into the old clichés of the dangerous "dark continent" and the primitive lust of its inhabitants that you'd swear the game was written in the 1920s. That Sheva neatly fits the approved Hollywood model of the light-skinned black heroine, and talks more like Lara Croft than her thickly-accented foes, merely compounds the problem rather than easing it. There are even more outrageous and outdated images to be found later in the game, stuff that I was honestly surprised to see in 2009, but Capcom has specifically asked that details of these scenes remain under wraps for now, whether for these reasons we don't know.

There will be plenty of people who refuse to see anything untoward in this material. "It wasn't racist when the enemies were Spanish in Resident Evil 4," goes the argument, but then the Spanish don't have the baggage of being stereotyped as subhuman animals for the past two hundred years. It's perfectly possible to use Africa as the setting for a powerful and troubling horror story, but when you're applying the concept of people being turned into savage monsters onto an actual ethnic group that has long been misrepresented as savage monsters, it's hard to see how elements of race weren't going to be a factor.

All it will take is for one mainstream media outlet to show the heroic Chris Redfield stamping on the face of a black woman, splattering her skull, and the controversy over Manhunt 2 will seem quaint by comparison. If we're going to accept this sort of imagery in games then questions are going be asked, these questions will have merit, and we're going to need a more convincing answer than "lol it's just a game." Animal-Mother

This worries me. We all agree that there's no merit to the argument that the game is racist just because black zombies are being killed. But if imagery like this is prominently used throughout the game, it's going to be much harder to fend off charges of racism. I'm very concerned that Capcom has stepped into a minefield without really being aware of what it was meddling in, and the damage that could do (or the issues it could expose) with the way video games treat narrative is slightly distressing.

In this day and age? I doubt it, of course more than a few might..but the majority would be racist them self. Getting defensive, etc. Same thing happened with Gears of War and black stereotyping. If they only knew the story and knew that those black's among the whites and other races are infected and NOT hem selves....guess they wouldn't care, anything to rag on a game. Honestly i think we're making a big deal out of it, it won't be that bad, IMO. Eyezonmii

Yes, in this day and age. A lot of people have not forgotten yet what their culture suffered. And it has nothing to do if they are infected or not. They don't care. They see a video of black people acting like mindless beasts, which is the same perception they ancestor were forced to endure.

Both you and I know that there's no racism behind it, both you and I know that's not Capcom's intention, neither you nor me wouldn't feel feel offended by it, but you must not forget that neither you nor me have lived what they have.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]

If we want to nitpick we could say that the cutscene of the demo is also racist, because when the megaphone guy points to us (Chris and Sheva) the two close-ups are from the only "real black" models of the game.

But the problem is we consider "black and white" instead of just plagas... that alone gives room to the racist problem to exist.

IronBass

You can't base a modern discussion on a 200 year old argument. Sure they were considered such things, then people realized it was a wrong theory, and moved on. Like most of the human mistakes.

[QUOTE="blitzcloud"]You can't base a modern discussion on a 200 year old argument. Sure they were considered such things, then people realized it was a wrong theory, and moved on. Like most of the human mistakes.IronBass

yeah. one thing that bothers me nearly as much as racists. people that deny it's an issue today, or that we should 'move on'. i think it's a really dangerous attitude to marginalize what is such a big issue even today. there's a reason it's illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany: because it's embarrassing for the nation collectively to marginalize what was such a massive & appalling crime against humanity.

the truth of the matter is it's far easier to 'move on' & learn from our past by thinking about it in your daily actions. remember how far we've come, but also keep in mind how far we have to go. don't ever belittle a concern or question about the sensibility of the setting of a video game. it's okay to ask ourselves theses questions. it's fine to debate it. it's in fact, far more healthy than saying 'just move on'. just ignore it. that's a slippery slope that leads to complacency.

The 200 argument isnt racism, it's the fact of considering black people soul-less animals and savages, when it has been clearly proved that it isn't the case, at all. Don't twist my words, indeed racism still exists... so?

Do you think it will be advertised as the game where you can kill black people?

Did you find yourself questioning GTA san andreas by the way?

3picuri3. No matter what you do, you will offend someone. You can offend them by making a movie of the 9/11 incident or by giving tinkie-winkie a woman purse... No matter what you do, you will always have detractors. It's impossible to please everyone and make something that isnt bland and completely generic, and also gives no real message at all.

Maybe it's because I live in a multicultural place that doesn't have much racism,

[QUOTE="IronBass"][QUOTE="blitzcloud"]You can't base a modern discussion on a 200 year old argument. Sure they were considered such things, then people realized it was a wrong theory, and moved on. Like most of the human mistakes.3picuri3

yeah. one thing that bothers me nearly as much as racists. people that deny it's an issue today, or that we should 'move on'. i think it's a really dangerous attitude to marginalize what is such a big issue even today. there's a reason it's illegal to deny the holocaust in Germany: because it's embarrassing for the nation collectively to marginalize what was such a massive & appalling crime against humanity.

the truth of the matter is it's far easier to 'move on' & learn from our past by thinking about it in your daily actions. remember how far we've come, but also keep in mind how far we have to go. don't ever belittle a concern or question about the sensibility of the setting of a video game. it's okay to ask ourselves theses questions. it's fine to debate it. it's in fact, far more healthy than saying 'just move on'. just ignore it. that's a slippery slope that leads to complacency.

that being said, i don't think RE5 will get the attention by the media as much as many claim it will. The game doesn't scream racism. Expecially since its toned down.

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] God how wrong you are, stop blowing things out of proportion, you're exaggerating. and...what about RE4? That shoots down your argument. Capcom said from the start it was all about co-op and i believe them, the buddy system, team work all seems like it was well thought out...Sheva is also an agent assigned to help chris around the African areas. You don't know anything, your just simply hating on the game as usual. And why complain? Africa isn't just blacks is it? I can see from the demo that black women have been taken out and whites have been added in..to balance things. The Media won't do anything. This isn't a white male killing normal human blacks, but an white male with a black female taking down INFECTED and inhuman people, who aren't there right mind. The people who consider this racist, are racist them selves. Eyezonmii

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

This worries me. We all agree that there's no merit to the argument that the game is racist just because black zombies are being killed. But if imagery like this is prominently used throughout the game, it's going to be much harder to fend off charges of racism. I'm very concerned that Capcom has stepped into a minefield without really being aware of what it was meddling in, and the damage that could do (or the issues it could expose) with the way video games treat narrative is slightly distressing.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"]

Yeah, but the thing is Capcom coincidentally added white, middle-eastern, and even Asian NPCs after some backlash. I totally agree that Sheva is an awesome character and Capcom designed the game with her in mind: for the narrative and core game play. Concerning her skin tone: there are Africans (men and women) with Sheva's complexion.

But it does upset me in a way to know that there are gamers out there who would rather play as a white character or a light-skinned character versus a dark pigmented character.

TREAL_Since

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

People really need to get with the times, first off it's 2009, Though racism still exist within certain parts of the world, it's not as big an issue as it was 50-60 years ago. I'm not gonna go around specifically stating that im killing any type of africans in RE5. Secondly it's the japanese they are a whole different tye of world then the rest of us and people seems to forget it. Lastly it's a game, but lemme get this straight I know this is beating a dead horse but uncharted like yahtzee says has every ethnicity it can think of. Racist no. Because it's a fun loving treasure hunting story. RE5 killing infect people NATIVE to the region is wrong, because 1 blogger says soTREAL_Since

But i think its more to do with being realistic and what was seen in Africa today. Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]But i think its more to do with being realistic and what was seen in Africa today. 3picuri3

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]But i think its more to do with being realistic and what was seen in Africa today. 3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]But i think its more to do with being realistic and what was seen in Africa today. Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] um. didn't yahtzee call uncharted racist? and crysis? did i miss something. maybe that was just me saying it in my head as i played ;) and yeah. just because racism isn't as 'much of a problem' doesn't mean it isn't alive and well everywhere. judging by my experiences on xbox live one in 5-10 of the kids / teens i play with is a bigot. in short... i don't consider marginalizing a problem like this to be 'getting with the times'. i think you're dead wrong.3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]But i think its more to do with being realistic and what was seen in Africa today. TREAL_Since

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] There are more darker people in Africa. But There are A LOT of light skinned people as well. My brother's GF (Episode_Eve) is the same complexion as Sheva and she's from Eritrea, a country in Africa.3picuri3

the more and more i play the demo, the more and more i HATE sheva and the whole co-op scheme

its seriously annoying

shes always takikng my kills, ammo/items, having to manage her ammo so shes not compltely useless

and always getting in my damn way when in tight, sticky situations, but the absolute worst part about it all is when shes fallin behind and draggin ass when im tryin to run away and gather my self and relaod all my guns she gets caught by the dman axe and chainsaw guy and gets killed, then all the sudden, boom shes dead, GAME OVER!...FFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU

this is meant to be a single player game dammit, not not some silly co op babysitting nonsense, plus the fact that someone is always with you also kills the potential scares/thrills

anyone else feelin me here?

honestly tho, im fine with everything else such as controls, menu, etc, just cant stand the co op schemekidcool189

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="TREAL_Since"] There are more darker people in Africa. But There are A LOT of light skinned people as well. My brother's GF (Episode_Eve) is the same complexion as Sheva and she's from Eritrea, a country in Africa.TREAL_Since

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="Salt_The_Fries"]

This worries me. We all agree that there's no merit to the argument that the game is racist just because black zombies are being killed. But if imagery like this is prominently used throughout the game, it's going to be much harder to fend off charges of racism. I'm very concerned that Capcom has stepped into a minefield without really being aware of what it was meddling in, and the damage that could do (or the issues it could expose) with the way video games treat narrative is slightly distressing.

3picuri3

[QUOTE="3picuri3"][QUOTE="Animal-Mother"]

People really need to get with the times, first off it's 2009, Though racism still exist within certain parts of the world, it's not as big an issue as it was 50-60 years ago. I'm not gonna go around specifically stating that im killing any type of africans in RE5. Secondly it's the japanese they are a whole different tye of world then the rest of us and people seems to forget it. Lastly it's a game, but lemme get this straight I know this is beating a dead horse but uncharted like yahtzee says has every ethnicity it can think of. Racist no. Because it's a fun loving treasure hunting story. RE5 killing infect people NATIVE to the region is wrong, because 1 blogger says soAnimal-Mother

it still exists in ALL parts of the world. i think the uproar was created by gamers tbh. the story wasn't really carried by major new outlets, just bounced around a ton of gaming sites and we keep bringing it up in SW over and over again. my point was that just because you don't think it's racist - or that because things aren't as bad as they were 50-60 years ago - it doesn't excuse discussion or criticism. looking at things analytically is an excellent way of making progress.

there's nothing wrong with questioning the sensibility of choosing this sort of setting in this day & age whatsoever. to be honest i think the uproar was more on the defensive end, from people attacking that one bloggers opinion. had people let it lie and respected their view of things instead of rabidly defending the game (as gaming media is so prone to do, see stories re: gaming as addiction. there is so much to support it, yet game blogs like kotaku, etc still just belittle the idea defensively like children that just had their lollies taken from them).

long story short. racism is still everywhere. we should question things. we should be analytical about it. we should always keep it in our minds in an attempt to move past it. marginalizing it, or downplaying just because things are 'better' isn't the way forward imho.

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"][QUOTE="3picuri3"] um. didn't yahtzee call uncharted racist? and crysis? did i miss something. maybe that was just me saying it in my head as i played ;) and yeah. just because racism isn't as 'much of a problem' doesn't mean it isn't alive and well everywhere. judging by my experiences on xbox live one in 5-10 of the kids / teens i play with is a bigot. in short... i don't consider marginalizing a problem like this to be 'getting with the times'. i think you're dead wrong.3picuri3

it still exists in ALL parts of the world. i think the uproar was created by gamers tbh. the story wasn't really carried by major new outlets, just bounced around a ton of gaming sites and we keep bringing it up in SW over and over again. my point was that just because you don't think it's racist - or that because things aren't as bad as they were 50-60 years ago - it doesn't excuse discussion or criticism. look at things analytically is an excellent way of making progress.

there's nothing wrong with questioning the sensibility of choosing this sort of setting in this day & age whatsoever. to be honest i think the uproar was more on the defensive end, from people attacking that one bloggers opinion. had people let it lie and respected their view of things instead of rabidly defending the game (as gaming media is so prone to do, see stories re: gaming as addiction. there is so much to support it, yet game blogs like kotaku, etc still just belittle the idea defensively like children that just had their lollies taken from them).

long story short. racism is still everywhere. we should question things. we should be analytical about it. we should always keep it in our minds in an attempt to move past it. marginalizing it, or downplaying just because things are 'better' isn't the way forward imho.

http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/07/resident_evil_5.html There's the link. No and because it was 50-60 years ago, doesnt mean that it isn't bad in any respect. But one Blogger was upset and everyone else just went up in arms. Like I said it's ok in movies but god forbid video games. this is a quote from the blog "This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people." So then isn't she being racist, telling everyone who isn't of that skin color is being brain washed to learn to hate and kill Blacks, Hispanics,Chinese, Middle Eastern's so on and so fourth. It's odd, I don't find many blogs about movies on this subject.

[QUOTE="3picuri3"]

[QUOTE="Animal-Mother"] didn't I mention that racist still exxist within certain parts of the world? I'm just saying because there are other games out there that are racistand because 1 blogger was unhappy everyone is in an uproar. It's a game people shouldn't be in this big of an uproar, their are plenty of stereotypical movies that do it without intent and nobody gets upset but a video game god forbidAnimal-Mother

it still exists in ALL parts of the world. i think the uproar was created by gamers tbh. the story wasn't really carried by major new outlets, just bounced around a ton of gaming sites and we keep bringing it up in SW over and over again. my point was that just because you don't think it's racist - or that because things aren't as bad as they were 50-60 years ago - it doesn't excuse discussion or criticism. look at things analytically is an excellent way of making progress.

there's nothing wrong with questioning the sensibility of choosing this sort of setting in this day & age whatsoever. to be honest i think the uproar was more on the defensive end, from people attacking that one bloggers opinion. had people let it lie and respected their view of things instead of rabidly defending the game (as gaming media is so prone to do, see stories re: gaming as addiction. there is so much to support it, yet game blogs like kotaku, etc still just belittle the idea defensively like children that just had their lollies taken from them).

long story short. racism is still everywhere. we should question things. we should be analytical about it. we should always keep it in our minds in an attempt to move past it. marginalizing it, or downplaying just because things are 'better' isn't the way forward imho.

http://www.blacklooks.org/2007/07/resident_evil_5.html There's the link. No and because it was 50-60 years ago, doesnt mean that it isn't bad in any respect. But one Blogger was upset and everyone else just went up in arms. Like I said it's ok in movies but god forbid video games. this is a quote from the blog "This is problematic on so many levels, including the depiction of Black people as inhuman savages, the killing of Black people by a white man in military clothing, and the fact that this video game is marketed to children and young adults. Start them young… fearing, hating, and destroying Black people." So then isn't she being racist, telling everyone who isn't of that skin color is being brain washed to learn to hate and kill Blacks, Hispanics,Chinese, Middle Eastern's so on and so fourth. It's odd, I don't find many blogs about movies on this subject.