*OH SNAP* IGN-UK Heavenly Sword Review

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="astiop"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Itagaki says:

"Told ya so. Not enough...physics...;)"

astiop

"I've never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you're supposed to press onscreen. I look at Heavenly Sword and it seems really half-assed, because it's asking you to do all these button-timing sequences but you are not getting much payoff from it"

- Itagaki.

I felt his whole statement needed to be heard :P

you are a god among men for finding that quote.

I..get...my own bukkits! :D:D

8)

yes sir, you do. lol

[QUOTE="astiop"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Itagaki says:

"Told ya so. Not enough...physics...;)"

ToScA-

"I've never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you're supposed to press onscreen. I look at Heavenly Sword and it seems really half-assed, because it's asking you to do all these button-timing sequences but you are not getting much payoff from it"

- Itagaki.

I felt his whole statement needed to be heard :P

Seems that he was absolutely on the spot. Itagaki's amazing.

IGN-UK.. :|

They are the same people who said Pro evo 6 on 360 plays less precise then the PS2 version. It does not. It's just a result of being used to the PS2 controller for so long. I knowI have both versions. And the 360 version plays just as well.

The thing that the PS2 version has over the 360 one is more options and teams, but game-play wise it's equally good (nay great) on both.

In short.. "ahum" "clears throat"

IGN-UK Lmao! :lol:

Probably going to be AA here. Also, how is it that IGN in the UK got a copy when the game won't even be out for a while there? Hell it isn't out for almost 3 weeks here in North America.DSgamer64

Isn't it developed in england?

Edit: Yes it is.

All Hail Itagaki!

Now go make us NG2 you lazy bum!

[QUOTE="astiop"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Itagaki says:

"Told ya so. Not enough...physics...;)"

ToScA-

"I've never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you're supposed to press onscreen. I look at Heavenly Sword and it seems really half-assed, because it's asking you to do all these button-timing sequences but you are not getting much payoff from it"

- Itagaki.

I felt his whole statement needed to be heard :P

Seems that he was absolutely on the spot. Itagaki's amazing.

While he might be right about Heavenly Sword, I guess he either forgot about ornever played Resident Evil 4 (or maybe didn't like it) :?

IGN-UK.. :|

They are the same people who said Pro evo on 360 plays less precise then the PS2 version. It does not. It's just a result of being used to the PS2 controller for so long. I know i have both versions. And the 360 version plays just as well.

The thing that the PS2 version has over the 360 one is more options and teams, but game-play wise it's equally good (nay great) on both.

In short.. "ahum" "clears throat"

IGN-UK Lmao :lol:

Gaara79

been waiting all day for this kind of damage control. lol.

again, every website has a couple of review anomalys. they don't have any more than anyone else, so find a better reason than one or 2 games to flame them.

[QUOTE="Eltroz"]bu...bu....bu...the cell and blu-ray are going to change games forever.CajunShooter

Yeah and the 360 is really revolutionizing games....oh wait its not.

Well if your'e not revolutionizing gaming. You sure as hell better have some quality games. One of those consoles does not. You get where i'm going with this?

[QUOTE="astiop"][QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Itagaki says:

"Told ya so. Not enough...physics...;)"

ToScA-

"I've never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you're supposed to press onscreen. I look at Heavenly Sword and it seems really half-assed, because it's asking you to do all these button-timing sequences but you are not getting much payoff from it"

- Itagaki.

I felt his whole statement needed to be heard :P

Seems that he was absolutely on the spot. Itagaki's amazing.

So you would take a guy who has only made 2game franchisesin his entire career, one of which happens to be a rehashed fighter and the other an insanely difficult ninja game, seriously? :lol:

Honestly, considering how horrible Dead Or Alive has been since it originally started in terms of being anoriginal fighting game, I would never take that man seriously considering how only one of the two franchises he created is actually still good while the other is pure rehashed tripe.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]Probably going to be AA here. Also, how is it that IGN in the UK got a copy when the game won't even be out for a while there? Hell it isn't out for almost 3 weeks here in North America.agentfred

Isn't it developed in england?

Edit: Yes it is.

I thought it was being made in Japan. Oh well.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]

Itagaki says:

"Told ya so. Not enough...physics...;)"

astiop

"I've never played a good game where the developers put a big icon of the button you're supposed to press onscreen. I look at Heavenly Sword and it seems really half-assed, because it's asking you to do all these button-timing sequences but you are not getting much payoff from it"

- Itagaki.

I felt his whole statement needed to be heard :P

I love itagaki. Always pumpous yet always right. It seems any console with Ninja Gaiden on it will accept no other 'definitive action game'.

So you would take a guy who has only made 2game franchisesin his entire career, one of which happens to be a rehashed fighter and the other an insanely difficult ninja game, seriously? :lol:

Honestly, considering how horrible Dead Or Alive has been since it originally started in terms of being anoriginal fighting game, I would never take that man seriously considering how only one of the two franchises he created is actually still good while the other is pure rehashed tripe.

DSgamer64

I'm not too fond of Dead or Alive, but for Ninja Gaiden alone that man deserves a lot of respect imo. The diffuculty of the game didn't stop it from getting critically acclaimed and universally beloved by Xbox-owners, and I've personally never found the game to be all that hard at all.

[QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

So you would take a guy who has only made 2game franchisesin his entire career, one of which happens to be a rehashed fighter and the other an insanely difficult ninja game, seriously? :lol:

Honestly, considering how horrible Dead Or Alive has been since it originally started in terms of being anoriginal fighting game, I would never take that man seriously considering how only one of the two franchises he created is actually still good while the other is pure rehashed tripe.

ToScA-

I'm not too fond of Dead or Alive, but for Ninja Gaiden alone that man deserves a lot of respect imo. The diffuculty of the game didn't stop it from getting critically acclaimed and universally beloved by Xbox-owners, and I've personally never found the game to be all that hard at all.

DoA is fun. Especially online. Any game that can entertain me for 2 years as DoA4 has, earns my respect.

And yes, Ninja Gaiden is the standard the genre. Can't wait to see what he's doing with Ninja Gaiden 2.

for those who haven't read the review, Ninja Theory will soon be asking us to pay $60 for:

...maybe three to four hours of decent combat in a game which takes a rather embarrassing, and distinctly un-epic, six or seven hours to beat.IGN-UK

:|

[QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

So you would take a guy who has only made 2game franchisesin his entire career, one of which happens to be a rehashed fighter and the other an insanely difficult ninja game, seriously? :lol:

Honestly, considering how horrible Dead Or Alive has been since it originally started in terms of being anoriginal fighting game, I would never take that man seriously considering how only one of the two franchises he created is actually still good while the other is pure rehashed tripe.

Dreams-Visions

I'm not too fond of Dead or Alive, but for Ninja Gaiden alone that man deserves a lot of respect imo. The diffuculty of the game didn't stop it from getting critically acclaimed and universally beloved by Xbox-owners, and I've personally never found the game to be all that hard at all.

DoA is fun. Especially online. Any game that can entertain me for 2 years as DoA4 has, earns my respect.

And yes, Ninja Gaiden is the standard the genre. Can't wait to see what he's doing with Ninja Gaiden 2.

I think DoA is good, if not great. I have, however, this small personal habit of growing tired of the game quite rapidly. I don't have this issue with other fighting games such as Tekken or Virtua Fighter. DoA simply bores me after a short period of time :/

And regarding Ninja Gaiden 2, TGS can't come fast enough! Can't wait!

Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, all getting destroyed in reviews. Cows, on a level of 1-10, how embarrassed are you right now?Zeliard9

[QUOTE="Gaara79"]

IGN-UK.. :|

They are the same people who said Pro evo on 360 plays less precise then the PS2 version. It does not. It's just a result of being used to the PS2 controller for so long. I know i have both versions. And the 360 version plays just as well.

The thing that the PS2 version has over the 360 one is more options and teams, but game-play wise it's equally good (nay great) on both.

In short.. "ahum" "clears throat"

IGN-UK Lmao :lol:

Dreams-Visions

been waiting all day for this kind of damage control. lol.

again, every website has a couple of review anomalys. they don't have any more than anyone else, so find a better reason than one or 2 games to flame them.

It's not DC.I just can't take anything IGN says seriously. Babes section Lmao:lol:

Then there was that best games of all time list that had a Madden game in it..

IGN Lmao:lol:

Only GS' scores matter here.LosDaddie

IGN's reviews are always higher than GS....GS will tear this game apart!!!

Thing with this kind of psychology (using a hand full of reviews to suppose a broader inconsistency) is that it dismisses the majority of their reviews in favor of a couple that show variation. Never mind the hundreds of reviews that we can pull up which show their scoring is no more or less consistent than any other review site...it doesn't achieve the goal of creating reasonable doubt in the eyes of those concerned.

"If it doesn't fit, you must acquit."



right? Ignore the obvious in favor of the small anomaly.

Dreams-Visions

Good logic. Hard to argue with.Except Hundreds of Reviews? IGN UK probably doesn't even have a hundred reviews and if they do, it's barely. They pretty much only started reviewing games in the second half of last year and even then, they still only seem to deem it necessary to have a UK specific opinion, instead of a general opinion,of the game for every 10th game. Believe it or not, the amount ofreviews mentioned in this thread as a wholeare probably a good chunk of their reviews. That said there's more merit thanthere seems on the surface to my countering the amount of reviews that show that they overscore games in generalwith ones that show that this isn't the case at all.

But I'll shut up now. I don't want to be a wet blanket on the celebration you guys are having here.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, all getting destroyed in reviews. Cows, on a level of 1-10, how embarrassed are you right now?Jandurin

i cant remember but dint they also make genji...?

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] [QUOTE="Gaara79"]

IGN-UK.. :|

They are the same people who said Pro evo on 360 plays less precise then the PS2 version. It does not. It's just a result of being used to the PS2 controller for so long. I know i have both versions. And the 360 version plays just as well.

The thing that the PS2 version has over the 360 one is more options and teams, but game-play wise it's equally good (nay great) on both.

In short.. "ahum" "clears throat"

IGN-UK Lmao :lol:

Gaara79

been waiting all day for this kind of damage control. lol.

again, every website has a couple of review anomalys. they don't have any more than anyone else, so find a better reason than one or 2 games to flame them.

It's not DC.I just can't take anything IGN says seriously. Babes section Lmao:lol:

Then there was that best games of all time list that had a Madden game in it..

IGN Lmao:lol:

THPS3 got a 10 on GS

GS Lmao :lol:.......:|

Every site misrates a game once and a while

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!

WHY??!!!!

^&*$%y^$#t%@#$&%!!!!! FREAKIN GOD,...

THE......THE ONLY GAME.....I WANT IS HS.......AND IT GETS A 7??!!!!!!

WAT GIVES??

all visuals and no gameplay, well, it least it looks good right cows?the_wet_mop

Sounds like the descriptions of Bioshock thus far too.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, all getting destroyed in reviews. Cows, on a level of 1-10, how embarrassed are you right now?Jandurin

I don't know if anyone should be embarassed. if there's anything that devs like Koei and others who have tried and failed at action/adventure titles...

...they are easy to dream up; hard to do well...and even harder to perfect.

we should appreciate gems like Ninja Gaiden and Devil May Cry even more.

http://ps3.ign.com/articles/815/815031p2.html

9.0 Presentation
Superficially at least, Heavenly Sword is an almost impeccable display of sheer, unrestrained talent.
9.0 Graphics
Minor framerate and tearing issues aside, Heavenly Sword is an absolutel tour de force of visual splendour.
8.5 Sound
Voice acting, effects work and soundtrack hit all the rights buttons with gusto, although occassional dodgy level mixing hurts.
6.0 Gameplay
As solid as its component parts are, poor design decisions and awful structure mean they never make for a cohesive, satisfying whole.
6.0 Lasting Appeal
Despite the wealth of combos and extras to unlock, you'll be constnatly battling with tedium on subsequent play-throughs.

7.0

Holy snap.

inertk

Why do you silly people jump all over the negative scores and then ignore the good scores.............

You people are really sad.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, all getting destroyed in reviews. Cows, on a level of 1-10, how embarrassed are you right now?Tactis

i cant remember but dint they also make genji...?

No.

The review basically shares all the same complaints with God of War, a game which I whole-heartedly love. So their "repetition" issues don't concern me.

The only thing that does concern me is the flawed checkpoint system they speak of.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"] [QUOTE="Gaara79"]

IGN-UK.. :|

They are the same people who said Pro evo on 360 plays less precise then the PS2 version. It does not. It's just a result of being used to the PS2 controller for so long. I know i have both versions. And the 360 version plays just as well.

The thing that the PS2 version has over the 360 one is more options and teams, but game-play wise it's equally good (nay great) on both.

In short.. "ahum" "clears throat"

IGN-UK Lmao :lol:

Gaara79

been waiting all day for this kind of damage control. lol.

again, every website has a couple of review anomalys. they don't have any more than anyone else, so find a better reason than one or 2 games to flame them.

It's not DC.I just can't take anything IGN says seriously. Babes section Lmao:lol:

Then there was that best games of all time list that had a Madden game in it..

IGN Lmao:lol:

come on, bro. IGN is one of the most reputable and respected gaming sites on the internet. if IGN doesn't get respect, neither does Gamespot. they've both quality.

It's not the Cows (except the over-hypers perhaps) Jandurin

That's who I'm referring to, and on this board, that's like almost every cow. They overhype all of their games to the games' own detriment. Warhawk, Lair and HS wouldn't as big a joke if they weren't hyped as the second coming. Lair got a whole lot of AAA hype, even if the "official" hype for it is AA. I'm pretty sure most people realize that.

And Heavenly Sword? Cows were saying that game was one of two things after the demo was released: 1) God of War with a chick, and 2) God of War and Ninja Gaiden put together. They were already overhyping it before the demo. It just got even worse after that. I know that everybody here clearly remembers how badly the cows hyped HS' gameplay and graphics.

Warhawk's hype was just baffling, considering it's basically a glorified XBLA game. $40 for a multiplayer-only remake of a PSX game and they were expecting it to be a critical darling? And I know cows will just say "well I played the beta and it was awesome who cares about critics." I guess you don't care about critics when they're flopping your "masterpiece", but you do when they're not.

A game like Bioshock comes out and cows will try to trivialize it by pointing out that it's coming out for two systems, as if that somehow means lemmings won't get to play it, or that they will. Well, too bad one of those systems wasn't the PS3, because it can really use the games.

The review basically shares all the same complaints with God of War, a game which I whole-heartedly love. So their "repetition" issues don't concern me.

The only thing that does concern me is the flawed checkpoint system they speak of.

Pariah_001

don't equate God of War to this game. similarity != correlation. I just wouldn't do it.

[QUOTE="Tactis"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, all getting destroyed in reviews. Cows, on a level of 1-10, how embarrassed are you right now?Dreams-Visions

i cant remember but dint they also make genji...?

No.

oh ok my mistake, what else did they make i did a search on gamespot for ninja theory i dint find anything besides HS..

There really isn't anything to be hyped for on PS3. It really is sad. 2007 is barren and 2008 isn't much better.

I got my PS3 a few weeks ago. It is already collecting dust... Literally.

The only reason I'm getting HS is because, besides LBP (if it comes out this year)... There will be nothing to play till some time in 2008. Even KZ2 looks mediocre.

Maybe in 2009 Sony will get the ball rolling. PS3 is a waste of money untill then.

oh ok my mistake, what else did they make i did a search on gamespot for ninja theory i dint find anything besides HS..

Tactis

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox/action/kungfuchaos/index.html?tag=result;title;0

this.

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]It's not the Cows (except the over-hypers perhaps) Zeliard9

That's who I'm referring to, and on this board, that's like almost every cow. They overhype all of their games to the games' own detriment. Warhawk, Lair and HS wouldn't as big a joke if they weren't hyped as the second coming. Lair got a whole lot of AAA hype, even if the "official" hype for it is AA. I'm pretty sure most people realize that.

And Heavenly Sword? Cows were saying that game was one of two things after the demo was released: 1) God of War with a chick, and 2) God of War and Ninja Gaiden put together. They were already overhyping it before the demo. It just got even worse after that. I know that everybody here clearlyremembers how badly the cows hyped HS' gameplay and graphics.

Warhawk's hype was just baffling, considering it's basically a glorified XBLA game. $40 for a multiplayer-only remake of a PSX game and they were expecting it to be a critical darling? And I know cows will just say "well I played the beta and it was awesome who cares about critics." I guess you don't care about critics when they're flopping your "masterpiece", but you do when they're not.

A game like Bioshock comes out and cows will try to trivialize it by pointing out that it's coming out for two systems, as if that somehow means lemmings won't get to play it, or that they will. Well, too bad one of those systems wasn't the PS3, because it can really use the games.

So to sum up your extremely ridiculous post you pick and choose scores..............you only notice one bad scores but ignore the good ones gotcha..............just stop typing please!!!!!

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]It's not the Cows (except the over-hypers perhaps) Zeliard9

That's who I'm referring to, and on this board, that's like almost every cow. They overhype all of their games to the games' own detriment. Warhawk, Lair and HS wouldn't as big a joke if they weren't hyped as the second coming. Lair got a whole lot of AAA hype, even if the "official" hype for it is AA. I'm pretty sure most people realize that.

You have to understand, most of them enjoyed the PS2's dominance, and expected it to translate into this gen without a hitch. they failed to observe as most 360 games struggled to be AA or more last year...and in turn, failed to realize how hard it would be for games to be good and score high on any platform.

Without the relative understanding that they could have gotten by watching 360 game scoring (and playing those games) they are only now learning those lessons...and hard lessons they are becoming. Lessons that--instead of being accepted--are turning into cries of bias and anti-PS3 barbarism.

It's too bad...but they'll learn soon enough.

There really isn't anything to be hyped for on PS3. It really is sad. 2007 is barren and 2008 isn't much better.

I got my PS3 a few weeks ago. It is already collecting dust... Literally.

The only reason I'm getting HS is because, besides LBP (if it comes out this year)... There will be nothing to play till some time in 2008. Even KZ2 looks mediocre.

Maybe in 2009 Sony will get the ball rolling. PS3 is a waste of money untill then.

Truth_Hurts_U

While 2007 now looks frighteningly thin (the hopes appear down to Uncharted and Ratchet in terms of exclusives), 2008 should be okay.

[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"][QUOTE="ToScA-"][QUOTE="DSgamer64"]

So you would take a guy who has only made 2game franchisesin his entire career, one of which happens to be a rehashed fighter and the other an insanely difficult ninja game, seriously? :lol:

Honestly, considering how horrible Dead Or Alive has been since it originally started in terms of being anoriginal fighting game, I would never take that man seriously considering how only one of the two franchises he created is actually still good while the other is pure rehashed tripe.

ToScA-

I'm not too fond of Dead or Alive, but for Ninja Gaiden alone that man deserves a lot of respect imo. The diffuculty of the game didn't stop it from getting critically acclaimed and universally beloved by Xbox-owners, and I've personally never found the game to be all that hard at all.

DoA is fun. Especially online. Any game that can entertain me for 2 years as DoA4 has, earns my respect.

And yes, Ninja Gaiden is the standard the genre. Can't wait to see what he's doing with Ninja Gaiden 2.

I think DoA is good, if not great. I have, however, this small personal habit of growing tired of the game quite rapidly. I don't have this issue with other fighting games such as Tekken or Virtua Fighter. DoA simply bores me after a short period of time :/

And regarding Ninja Gaiden 2, TGS can't come fast enough! Can't wait!

I would also like to point out the hypocricy in Itagaki's statement about physics. Who in the hell does he think he is bashing one game for physics yet his games lack any kind of good physics. I mean jesus enemies hang in the air for about 5 seconds in Ninja Gaiden Sigma when you kill them and a lot of the bad guys use the same fighting tactics which get extremely annoying after a while. His idea of phsyics is girls with giant boobs that bounce all over the place in their skimpy costumes, not exactly very good physics to say the least.

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Lair, Heavenly Sword, Warhawk, all getting destroyed in reviews. Cows, on a level of 1-10, how embarrassed are you right now?Jandurin

Didn't pretty much all of them overhype it? I'm sure I've heard one or two people point out in the previous few months that Ninja THeory hardly had the most glorious track record only to be flamed by countless cows. I think they are as much to blame for giving this game the hype (as with Lair) it did not deserve.

IMO IGN are no longer a credible website. How did they work that out when Play gave it a 10/10? That doesn't make sense. I bet even MicroSpot will give it more than 7/10.ShmenonPie

:| Alrighty...

[QUOTE="the_wet_mop"]all visuals and no gameplay, well, it least it looks good right cows?dubvisions

Sounds like the descriptions of Bioshock thus far too.

Ummm what? So Bioshock is getting AAA everywhere based on visuals? :lol: Wow, cows are getting desperate. Do yourself a favor and play Bioshock. It is fun and the gameplay is really sweet. Swing and a miss!