OUCH! Battlefield 3 just lost 34k of its preorders, and rising!

It's an amazingly good Beta on PC. I guess the console Beta is causing loss of pre-orders but who cares about those anyway. This is my PC FPS and FPS will always play better on a PC.

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Case and point. Why do you view CoD players as "inferior" to you and your "BF3 experience"? :roll: You can have it bro, we dont even want it. Give me my "newb" game plz.

Battlefield fanboys deserve all the trolling and ridicule they get. It is poetic justice how they spent all this time b****ing about how CoD just copies its formula, when this game is literally the same game as BC2, but an inferior version. There is almost NO destrucatbility, which is the series staple game mechanic (and DICE has said this game wouldnt have as much destructability as BC2). You are basically getting Battlefield: Medal of Honor.

Sagem28

I couldn't care less what you play.

My biggest problem is COD players coming into a BF game and playing it like it was a COD. Picking the Medic ****and not doing a single revive, jump in a chopper only to have it crash 10 meters further, picking the reckon and spending the entire game in the same bush trying to snipe people.

If those people leave because the beta was "bad" then I find that great news.

Yeah I agree 100% with you brah. I thought the cod community was bad but the battlefield one is even more pathetic. Like you said every cod video and discussion on the internet is derailed with bf3 fanboys prancing around like it's the next coming of jesus. I'm glad it's loosing preorders so I can laugh at all the pathetic fangirls. I'm still buying bf3 later down the track when it's reduced in price though, I just despise the community. ps: you a miscer?yanni1

But yea, the BF3 community has got to be the most annoying body of individuals on the internet. And like the dude above me said, I lol @ people who think this game is suddnely going to be twice as good as it is now. This is not a BETA, this is a DEMO. You dont do Betas 3 weeks before launch, look how Killzone 3's "beta" turned out ;). The game comes out in less than 3 weeks, meaning the game is likely about to go gold within the next few days, print up copies, and ship.

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Lol at people not knowing the difference between a demo and a beta.

The vast majority of those 34K were probably Cod kids, good riddance.

Sagem28

Absolutely. It was the same for BC2.

LOL sorry to break it to ya but i was in the BC2 closed beta and it was fun and polished unlike this BF3 crap of a beta. prone = eeeewww.

Best opinion I've heard on BF3 yet

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGufpJYtCU0

This is like the exact opposite of what happened with the BC2 beta, and its not hard to see why. Not only did they decide to release an earlier, less polished build of the game for the beta instead of a newer, more finished one (strike 1), but they decided the map they would use would be Rush only with no vehicles and half of it inside tunnels (strike 2). Finally, it doesn't help that the game got MASSIVE unrealistic hype and has a bevy of odd bugs that really should be fixed before the release. It also doesn't help that the console versions seem like lazy ports, still fun, but not up to the quality BC2 had on consoles compared to PC.

Heck, not having a beta at all probably would have been better for them then releasing this beta. But obviously the best thing to do should have been to offer bigger maps and a better build of the game.

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Case and point. Why do you view CoD players as "inferior" to you and your "BF3 experience"? :roll: You can have it bro, we dont even want it. Give me my "newb" game plz.

Battlefield fanboys deserve all the trolling and ridicule they get. It is poetic justice how they spent all this time b****ing about how CoD just copies its formula, when this game is literally the same game as BC2, but an inferior version. There is almost NO destrucatbility, which is the series staple game mechanic (and DICE has said this game wouldnt have as much destructability as BC2). You are basically getting Battlefield: Medal of Honor.

yanni1

I couldn't care less what you play.

My biggest problem is COD players coming into a BF game and playing it like it was a COD. Picking the Medic ****and not doing a single revive, jump in a chopper only to have it crash 10 meters further, picking the reckon and spending the entire game in the same bush trying to snipe people.

If those people leave because the beta was "bad" then I find that great news.

People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

There's no record of the existence of this tweet. Direct or retweeted. :|

People know it's a Beta, DICE are to blame for the awful decisions they made in the Beta:

• No Caspian Border (this is sequel to BF2 or BC2, c'mon DICE!)
• No vehicles (COD?)
• No clipping - you get moved around by team mates who bump into you.
• Glitchiest Beta ever (some so obvious shouldn't even be in the Beta)

TBH, there are a lot of other annoyances they COULD fix in the final game like squad management, options menu when dead, going prone into walls, etc.

i did not enjoy the beta not 1 bit.

Best opinion I've heard on BF3 yet

Grawse

That was truly something special. :lol: :lol: :lol:

There's no record of the existence of this tweet. Direct or retweeted. :|

shinrabanshou

Lol.That's pretty funny.

People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

Sagem28

-For your first point, ironically YOU dont know how a beta works ;). Betas take place MONTHS before a game's release. You dont release a "BETA" 3 weeks before your game launches (and ONE week before your game goes gold and is shipped to retailers). That my friend is a DEMO. CALLING it a "Beta" doesnt change that (see, the Killzone 3 beta, which was still going on just days leading up to the games release).

-I own Bad Company 2, and decided to cancel mine after playing the beta. So there goes your second point.

There's no record of the existence of this tweet. Direct or retweeted. :|

shinrabanshou

Best opinion I've heard on BF3 yet

Grawse

I lol'd

but yeah the tweet is fake

There's no record of the existence of this tweet. Direct or retweeted. :|

shinrabanshou

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There's no record of the existence of this tweet. Direct or retweeted. :|

Cherokee_Jack

Yeah it doesn't. You can view old tweets and it doesn't just delete them automatically.

It's clearly fake. Minus the fact you can't find it on the official Battlefield Twitter page it just wouldn't make any sense to actually post something like that. True or otherwise, you'd have to be a complete moron to post something like that. The Battlefield twitter page is all smiles and replying to people talking about their problems. Pretty much what you'd expect from PR

That does'nt mean 34k lost sales of course.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that EA lost the game some sales by way of bad PR, however.

People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

Sagem28

There's many flaws in BF3 that aren't going to be just beta version flaws. Glitches aren't the only reason the game sucks so far. It's the horrible squad management, the horrible party system, the decisions DICE made that only promote camping(prone, the ability to hide in bushes), the horrible menu layout, the inability to edit your cla$$ setup outside of a match, the horrible spawn system, the fact that offense and defense have different gun options thus making the gun balance lopsided depending on which team you're on, the fact that there's only 3 game modes in the entire game, etc. There's plenty of reasons to criticize BF3 outside of just beta glitches. Stop hyping this game so much and acting like it's perfect and it takes so much skill to be good at compared to other FPS games. It's not and it doesn't. It takes about as much skill as COD to be good at. If you want to play a true squad based tactical shooter that takes REAL skill, play Killzone 2/3. Pretty much everything that Battlefield 3 does, Killzone 2/3 do better(and it doesn't have stupid vehicle spam like BF3 will).

Oh Im sorry! I missed the news conference when we we told that this beta was final code. It is a beta people which means it is not a finished product and in fact DICE has said that it is older code. Their primary reason for even having this beta was to stress test the servers. As far as those of you who have/will cancel your preorders, I say SEE YA!!! Wait for 11-5-11 to play MW2 all over again with the whiney 13 year olds. BF3 is day 1 for me!!! CANT WAIT!!

ShoTTyMcNaDeS

Do you honestly belive there is no "whiney 13 year olds" on BF3? I have this game onpreorder for 360 but im not stupid enough to believe they would release code this bad to stress test the servers this close to launch.Im sure Naughty Dog are stress testing UC3 servers, Epic stress tested servers with Gears 3 and neither beta had issues this glaring. They have lost 34k preorders that they no off and how many users thought I will wait and see what this beta is like before deciding?

I am no COD fanboy or interested in this metagame rubbishbut I know if they released MW3 in this "old code" beta this place would have exploded. I believe the game will be patched, possibly already but the bottom line is this is awful advert for the game on consoles this close to release. Somebody will be getting fired.

I wasn't planning on getting this but the beta convinced me. So they won at least one customer

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People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

StrongDeadlift

-For your first point, ironically YOU dont know how a beta works ;). Betas take place MONTHS before a game's release. You dont release a "BETA" 3 weeks before your game launches (and ONE week before your game goes gold and is shipped to retailers). That my friend is a DEMO. CALLING it a "Beta" doesnt change that (see, the Killzone 3 beta, which was still going on just days leading up to the games release).

-I own Bad Company 2, and decided to cancel mine after playing the beta. So there goes your second point.

The beta was to test server stability. They said it themselves.

i must be in the minority.

I'm still excited for BF3 even if i can only get it on consoles at the moment. apart from a few weird glitches - not game breaking. but generally me and my friends have been enjoying it.

I mean think about it. they picked rush mode... which is not the favorite style of game, and they gave you a level where you don't have any vehicles that can be worked with. Seriously the one big key thing that makes Battlefield, Battlefield.

everything about the beta feels like a calculated safe choice.

to me the beta i got the sense was an old build they'd been showing the press, and decided to turn it into a PR tool, and it blew in their face.

and people make quick snap judgements over games. and they don't see the difference between beta or demo, old build or current build. to them it's always current build - I.E. also going to be the finished product. and there is a lot of pressure by PR people to show gameplay, do 'betas' and 'demo's'.

it's why game developers don't like showing demo's and gameplay video at press events, preferring to just show off a CGI trailer. because even if at the bottom of the God damn screen it said "not final build" and it didn't show it in sparking 1080p with mindblowing mechanics, graphics, texture, physics and effects. the masses would get their panties in a wad.

Beta my butt!. The game is almost out so it is not like anything is going to change really. If it was being released 4-5 months from now like the Gears Beta but that is not the case. I have heard from several places the multiplayer is a mess.

I have to laugh at all the COD haters that were praying this game would crush COD lmao. The game was rushed so they could release before COD and it shows.

That does'nt mean 34k lost sales of course.

I don't think it's a stretch to say that EA lost the game some sales by way of bad PR, however.

MlauTheDaft

A lot of my hype died for Battlefield 3 when EA began directly assaulting CoD. It actually started earlier this year with Bulletstorm and their mock CoD video. Then they hyped Crysis 2, and now the ****ing slogan for BF3 is "Above and Beyond the Call". I liked Bulletstorm, really enjoyed Crysis 2, and the BF3 beta is great when it actually functions but I hate that sort of trash talk. I get it, it's business and blah blah blah but personally I respond better when developers are actually congratulatory to each other.

Like when Naughty Dog congratulated Epic for the Gears of War 3 critical reception, and Cliffy B responded with a thank you and anticipation of Uncharted 3. The publishers should follow the developer's lead and just do that. You don't need to taint a product's reputation by directly attacking the competition. Wouldn't you think it would make more sense just to release a quality product that didn't attack CoD at every turn? What are they really accomplishing? If I enjoy McDonald's and someone tells me I should get Burger King because it's better and then tell me I'm an idiot for liking McDonald's, well **** off I don't want your damn burger because you say it's better. It's just a low, immature move on EA's part and all their doing is hurting themselves.

/rant

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People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

StrongDeadlift

-For your first point, ironically YOU dont know how a beta works ;). Betas take place MONTHS before a game's release. You dont release a "BETA" 3 weeks before your game launches (and ONE week before your game goes gold and is shipped to retailers). That my friend is a DEMO. CALLING it a "Beta" doesnt change that (see, the Killzone 3 beta, which was still going on just days leading up to the games release).

-I own Bad Company 2, and decided to cancel mine after playing the beta. So there goes your second point.

:lol: You crack me up kid.

Very well, we will wait for the full game to be released to see who is right.

Beta my butt!. The game is almost out so it is not like anything is going to change really. If it was being released 4-5 months from now like the Gears Beta but that is not the case. I have heard from several places the multiplayer is a mess.

I have to laugh at all the COD haters that were praying this game would crush COD lmao. The game was rushed so they could release before COD and it shows.

CanYouDiglt

For everyone insanely ignorant, these are the changes they've already made:

* Fixed occasional client crash when reviving.
* Fixed killcam showing glitched area under map if your killer is dead.
* Issue with spawning on dead squad mates fixed.
* Fixed a bug where shooting at a moving enemy could cause more than the intended amount of damage.
* Crosshairs for shotguns have been replaced with a new, thinner, art.
* A subtle low health screen effect has been added.
* Tweaked scores of Medals and Service Stars.
* Tweaked the Rank progression.
* Pushing prone on console will not play the animation twice.
* Fixed loss of Squad Leader after EOR at some times.
* Framerate stability fixes.
* The 3D spotting icons has been tweaked to better match the target's visibility.Icons will show frequently less on mostly obscured targets.
* Fixed issue with crosshair disappearing after round transition.
*Fixed issue with crosshair disappearing after trying to deploy while the countdown timer still active.
* Squad list now shows specializations chosen, VOIP activity and dead squad mates.
* Non working options in squad menu fixed: "Private" flag and "Switch Teams".

They tried to cater to COD fans with metro. Bad idea IMO.

EDIT:

Oh and the console version sucked. Virtually unlplayable, huge letdown. BC2 was a blast and still is.

lucky_star

The PS3 version is OK, nothing OMG. Just by looking at it I feel like I'm being left out of a better experience (the PC version :P). The quality of the game is not much higher than Bad Company 2 on PS3. I'm still buying it. The beta is pretty tame, but the game will be amazing.

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People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

el3m2tigre

-For your first point, ironically YOU dont know how a beta works ;). Betas take place MONTHS before a game's release. You dont release a "BETA" 3 weeks before your game launches (and ONE week before your game goes gold and is shipped to retailers). That my friend is a DEMO. CALLING it a "Beta" doesnt change that (see, the Killzone 3 beta, which was still going on just days leading up to the games release).

-I own Bad Company 2, and decided to cancel mine after playing the beta. So there goes your second point.

The beta was to test server stability. They said it themselves.

Wait, are you telling me the entire purpose of this beta was to stress test the servers? You mean it wasnt to listen to feedback, and change the gameplay mechanics based on what the feedback was?

Because all the butthurt BF fanboys seem to think otherwise. According to them, the full game is going to drastically change from the beta, even though the game is due to go gold in the next couple days, and magically be twice as fun as the beta is. ;)

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People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

Messiahbolical-

There's many flaws in BF3 that aren't going to be just beta version flaws. Glitches aren't the only reason the game sucks so far. It's the horrible squad management, the horrible party system, the decisions DICE made that only promote camping(prone, the ability to hide in bushes), the horrible menu layout, the inability to edit your cla$$ setup outside of a match, the horrible spawn system, the fact that offense and defense have different gun options thus making the gun balance lopsided depending on which team you're on, the fact that there's only 3 game modes in the entire game, etc. There's plenty of reasons to criticize BF3 outside of just beta glitches. Stop hyping this game so much and acting like it's perfect and it takes so much skill to be good at compared to other FPS games. It's not and it doesn't. It takes about as much skill as COD to be good at. If you want to play a true squad based tactical shooter that takes REAL skill, play Killzone 2/3. Pretty much everything that Battlefield 3 does, Killzone 2/3 do better(and it doesn't have stupid vehicle spam like BF3 will).

KILLZONE 4 Lyfe ;)!!!

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[QUOTE="StrongDeadlift"]

-For your first point, ironically YOU dont know how a beta works ;). Betas take place MONTHS before a game's release. You dont release a "BETA" 3 weeks before your game launches (and ONE week before your game goes gold and is shipped to retailers). That my friend is a DEMO. CALLING it a "Beta" doesnt change that (see, the Killzone 3 beta, which was still going on just days leading up to the games release).

-I own Bad Company 2, and decided to cancel mine after playing the beta. So there goes your second point.

StrongDeadlift

The beta was to test server stability. They said it themselves.

Wait, are you telling me the entire purpose of this beta was to stress test the servers? You mean it wasnt to listen to feedback, and change the gameplay mechanics based on what the feedback was?

Because all the butthurt BF fanboys seem to think otherwise. According to them, the full game is going to drastically change from the beta, even though the game is due to go gold in the next couple days, and magically be twice as fun as the beta is. ;)

For everyone insanely ignorant, these are the changes they've already made:

* Fixed occasional client crash when reviving.
* Fixed killcam showing glitched area under map if your killer is dead.
* Issue with spawning on dead squad mates fixed.
* Fixed a bug where shooting at a moving enemy could cause more than the intended amount of damage.
* Crosshairs for shotguns have been replaced with a new, thinner, art.
* A subtle low health screen effect has been added.
* Tweaked scores of Medals and Service Stars.
* Tweaked the Rank progression.
* Pushing prone on console will not play the animation twice.
* Fixed loss of Squad Leader after EOR at some times.
* Framerate stability fixes.
* The 3D spotting icons has been tweaked to better match the target's visibility.Icons will show frequently less on mostly obscured targets.
* Fixed issue with crosshair disappearing after round transition.
*Fixed issue with crosshair disappearing after trying to deploy while the countdown timer still active.
* Squad list now shows specializations chosen, VOIP activity and dead squad mates.
* Non working options in squad menu fixed: "Private" flag and "Switch Teams".

el3m2tigre

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People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

Messiahbolical-

There's many flaws in BF3 that aren't going to be just beta version flaws. Glitches aren't the only reason the game sucks so far. It's the horrible squad management, the horrible party system, the decisions DICE made that only promote camping(prone, the ability to hide in bushes), the horrible menu layout, the inability to edit your cla$$ setup outside of a match, the horrible spawn system, the fact that offense and defense have different gun options thus making the gun balance lopsided depending on which team you're on, the fact that there's only 3 game modes in the entire game, etc. There's plenty of reasons to criticize BF3 outside of just beta glitches. Stop hyping this game so much and acting like it's perfect and it takes so much skill to be good at compared to other FPS games. It's not and it doesn't. It takes about as much skill as COD to be good at. If you want to play a true squad based tactical shooter that takes REAL skill, play Killzone 2/3. Pretty much everything that Battlefield 3 does, Killzone 2/3 do better(and it doesn't have stupid vehicle spam like BF3 will).

This. They all have this elitist attitude, like the game takes so much skill. If by "skill", you mean, getting into full prone and camping, gunning down someone from 100 yards away from the bushes, then yea, strong "skill" :roll:. And if we want to talk about Bad Company 2, all you did was run around for 5 minutes and gun down the first person you see. Its not that hard. That was, until BF3 turned this game into a camper infested mess where you die 5 times in the first couple minutes, and EVERY kill is from someone camping in the bushes not doing anything.

CoD, Halo, Uncharted and Gears ALL take more skill than Battlefield 3 (and Bad Company 2).

That's what happen when you try to cater to COD fans with that beta. Why was Caspian borders shut down on the open beta it just doesn't make sense to me.

Even my friend, a long time battlefield fan was disappointed with the beta said it felt nothing like the previous few. :|

That being said I know the game will turn out just fine with on its actual release.

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People who are cancelling because of a beta either:

-Don't know how a beta works
-Have never played a BF game before and can't get accustomed to the gameplay.

StrongDeadlift

There's many flaws in BF3 that aren't going to be just beta version flaws. Glitches aren't the only reason the game sucks so far. It's the horrible squad management, the horrible party system, the decisions DICE made that only promote camping(prone, the ability to hide in bushes), the horrible menu layout, the inability to edit your cla$$ setup outside of a match, the horrible spawn system, the fact that offense and defense have different gun options thus making the gun balance lopsided depending on which team you're on, the fact that there's only 3 game modes in the entire game, etc. There's plenty of reasons to criticize BF3 outside of just beta glitches. Stop hyping this game so much and acting like it's perfect and it takes so much skill to be good at compared to other FPS games. It's not and it doesn't. It takes about as much skill as COD to be good at. If you want to play a true squad based tactical shooter that takes REAL skill, play Killzone 2/3. Pretty much everything that Battlefield 3 does, Killzone 2/3 do better(and it doesn't have stupid vehicle spam like BF3 will).

This. They all have this elitist attitude, like the game takes so much skill. If by "skill", you mean, getting into full prone and camping, gunning down someone from 100 yards away from the bushes, then yea, strong "skill" :roll:. And if we want to talk about Bad Company 2, all you did was run around for 5 minutes and gun down the first person you see. Its not that hard. That was, until BF3 turned this game into a camper infested mess where you die 5 times in the first couple minutes, and EVERY kill is from someone camping in the bushes not doing anything.

CoD, Halo, Uncharted and Gears ALL take more skill than Battlefield 3 (and Bad Company 2).

Looks like I hit quite a few nerves :lol:.
Sorry boy's, never meant to upset y'all.

Peace. :P

Really cant blame some people when you spend haalf the time under the map.

but 34k is pretty rash

It's because they didn't know the beta was an old build of the game. mrmusicman247

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"]It's because they didn't know the beta was an old build of the game. Jammy69

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[QUOTE="Messiahbolical-"] Why do Battlefield fans always act like there's no reason for people to just flat out think the game sucks so far? This post is a perfect example of why Battlefield fans are BY FAR the worst fanboys on the entire internet. They have this smug elitist attitude about the Battlefield franchise, as if it's the most amazing FPS franchise on earth no matter what and it's perfect in every way and if someone disagrees it must mean they just suck at the game. And any time people point out the game's flaws, they completely ignore it and continue to act like it's perfect and it's just the person criticizing the game that's flawed.

There's many flaws in BF3 that aren't going to be just beta version flaws. Glitches aren't the only reason the game sucks so far. It's the horrible squad management, the horrible party system, the decisions DICE made that only promote camping(prone, the ability to hide in bushes), the horrible menu layout, the inability to edit your cla$$ setup outside of a match, the horrible spawn system, the fact that offense and defense have different gun options thus making the gun balance lopsided depending on which team you're on, the fact that there's only 3 game modes in the entire game, etc. There's plenty of reasons to criticize BF3 outside of just beta glitches. Stop hyping this game so much and acting like it's perfect and it takes so much skill to be good at compared to other FPS games. It's not and it doesn't. It takes about as much skill as COD to be good at. If you want to play a true squad based tactical shooter that takes REAL skill, play Killzone 2/3. Pretty much everything that Battlefield 3 does, Killzone 2/3 do better(and it doesn't have stupid vehicle spam like BF3 will).

Sagem28

This. They all have this elitist attitude, like the game takes so much skill. If by "skill", you mean, getting into full prone and camping, gunning down someone from 100 yards away from the bushes, then yea, strong "skill" :roll:. And if we want to talk about Bad Company 2, all you did was run around for 5 minutes and gun down the first person you see. Its not that hard. That was, until BF3 turned this game into a camper infested mess where you die 5 times in the first couple minutes, and EVERY kill is from someone camping in the bushes not doing anything.

CoD, Halo, Uncharted and Gears ALL take more skill than Battlefield 3 (and Bad Company 2).

Looks like I hit quite a few nerves :lol:.
Sorry boy's, never meant to upset y'all.

Peace. :P