PC Gaming Alliance says: console games are crap

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#201 Jade_Monkey
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they are great and despite the fact that pc games are able to be more advanced, consoles are a fun gaming platform. and you don't have to worry about upgrades until the next one comes out. like i said, i don't upgrade. i use as is until it dies.

thesmiter

I see your not ready to come clean. That's ok, these things take time. I'm sure you will one day when the scars of console gaming have healed.

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#202 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="thesmiter"][QUOTE="BobHipJames"][QUOTE="Pro_wrestler"]

Why can't it be compared? It completely annihilates the claims that they made. Just because your giving all sorts of criteria that a game must meet to be considered "Still playing 10 years later" doesn't change the fact that people are still playing H2 online by the thousands daily.

Like I said earlier, they have zero method of going about proving that people aren't still playing their Genesis, NES, Saturns, PSOnes.. etc... Its a huge assumption based on the fact that any console pre-PS2 had a massive online/offline disconnect.

BobHipJames

Ugh. I wouldn't play Halo 2 for ten minutes. The game sucks. There's nothing to change that, nothing to make it interesting or fresh. It's just Elites all day long. No thank you.

Sure, people are playing it, but they don't know what the hell they're doing.

so you don't like halo 2. so consoles suck. oh wait... lots of people, including myself, loved halo 2, and 3. i think sales prove this.

to say people 'don't know what the hell they're doing' because they play a game that you don't like is foolish. i don't like WoW. therefore, millions of people don't know what the hell they are doing, according to your method and my taste in games. that is just stupid.

No, there are good console games, and then there is Halo 2. Halo 2 sucks.

WoW is a genre you may or not like. I like FPSes. I don't like Halo 2. Why? Because it sucks.

time is indeed money. that could be discussed in an economic forum of some kind, in terms of investment and compound interest.

on the subject of pc, you include far too many 'ifs.' the fact is, consoles thrive and provide a good gaming experience. pc does as well. and the vast majority of pc games are for the MS os. show me otherwise.

and since consoles compete for much of the same market share as consoles, the competition forces devs to up the quality of their games.

the more competition, the better the quality. history proves this.

thesmiter

Investment and compound interest? Presuming no investment, you have no interest. If you have a time-based interest payment then obviously that means that time equals money by that measure. But you could say the same thing about inflation.

Superficial and inconsequential at best. Free time is free time. I cannot spend my time more wisely to get more money out of my invested principle. The rate stays the same.

PC games are majorly on MS. I provided reasons for this and its included in my analysis.

Competition: competitors could be on the same platform and have at least the same impact on development.

History doesn't prove that, by the way. Theory articulates it well, but it's never been proven. Certainly not by history. Quality isn't the only aspect of production.

so competition didn't force coke and pepsi, google and yahoo, microsoft and apple, cable and satellite, to try to improve their product and outdo the competitor?

remember when coke made their product taste like crap? pepsi started to destroy them. so they returned to the better product.

microsoft has a more popular os, because originally, it was more user-friendly, and people liked it.

history proves that competition forces companies to come out with a better product to survive. 'better' can be disputed. maybe more popular, or whatever appeals to more people and suits more people better. you could say that's what quality consists of.

and, in the US at least, i am not aware of a long-term compound interest investment being outdone by inflation. the more time its in, the more it compounds, the more it quashes inflation.

and to say that free time doesn't equal money is your own experience. many small business owners spend their free time working. the harder and more you work, the more likely you are to be successful.

thomas edison : 'everything comes to him who hustles while he waits.'

'i never did a days work in my life. it was all fun.'

'i have not failed, i've just found 10,000 ways it won't work.' (probably required a lot of time)

who said free time couldn't be spent working on something that makes money, and you enjoy? the notion of what free time is and that it cannot yield profit is foolish.

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#203 limbleZZ
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LOL "FUNCOM GETS IT"

apparently the co-founder doesn't? (left because AoC was crap)

PC MAG prefers pc to consoles? no way...

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#204 lowe0
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I guess if you haven't experienced a true PC gaming session consoles provide a "good" gaming experience.

Jade_Monkey

Yawn. I've been playing PC games since 1994, and I prefer consoles. How old were you in 1994?

I hear the "there's no way you'd be a console gamer if you tried PC gaming" argument all the time around here, and it's still absolutely wrong.

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#205 anshul89
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[QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]

I guess if you haven't experienced a true PC gaming session consoles provide a "good" gaming experience.

lowe0

Yawn. I've been playing PC games since 1994, and I prefer consoles. How old were you in 1994?

I hear the "there's no way you'd be a console gamer if you tried PC gaming" argument all the time around here, and it's still absolutely wrong.

lol !! not this again !
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#206 Poshkidney
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I think he's saying consoles replay the game while the pc keeps playing the game theres a difference.

WE the pc gamers that is we never replay game in the way console gamers think replaying is.

replay with consoles is multiplayer and meybe going over the singleplayer but feels like that dosen't mean repaly anymore while replay for us is something new that makes us play and that is what console gamers don't understand.

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#207 clone01
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[QUOTE="Malta_1980"]

if console games are crap, then i got crappy tastes in gaming :)

Jade_Monkey

Don't get too down on yourself, many people suffer from the same problem. Once we find a way to fix you we will. Hang in there.

and yet another post that proves why no one likes hermits.

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#208 clone01
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[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]

I guess if you haven't experienced a true PC gaming session consoles provide a "good" gaming experience.

anshul89

Yawn. I've been playing PC games since 1994, and I prefer consoles. How old were you in 1994?

I hear the "there's no way you'd be a console gamer if you tried PC gaming" argument all the time around here, and it's still absolutely wrong.

lol !! not this again !

good argument. well, gee, i'm convinced.

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#209 kidcool189
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some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
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#210 clone01
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some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
kidcool189

good post.

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#211 blackdreamhunk
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some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
kidcool189
yea well the same could be said about some game devs, companies and media about pc gaming!

Now the real bad boys come over and prove my we ahy the best and not trash talk.

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#212 clone01
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
blackdreamhunk

yea well the same could be said about some game devs, companies and media about pc gaming!

Now the real bad boys come over and prove my we ahy the best and not trash talk.

who's we? you mean you and your awesome pc?

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#213 blackdreamhunk
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yea well i know my pc gaming kicks the hell out of any console to hell and back. lol
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#214 mo0ksi
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I can't agree with this. Even as a PC gamer I can't agree with this.

I was playing Gunstar Heroes just a couple days ago and it came out more than a decade ago.

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#215 clone01
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yea well i know my pc gaming kicks the hell out of any console to hell and back. lolblackdreamhunk

yep, fable 2 is awesome on PC. oh, wait, never mind.

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#216 mo0ksi
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yea well i know my pc gaming kicks the hell out of any console to hell and back. lolblackdreamhunk
Sometimes I wonder if you're even a PC gamer tbh.
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#217 kidcool189
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[QUOTE="kidcool189"]some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
clone01

good post.

and the funny thing is, i gurantee a majority of the elitest not only in this thread, but in this whole forum all grew up playing on the older consoles and loved them, like me and almost everyone else on these forums

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#218 clone01
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]yea well i know my pc gaming kicks the hell out of any console to hell and back. lolmo0ksi
Sometimes I wonder if you're even a PC gamer tbh.

i'm pretty sure he's a giant fakeboy.

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#220 clone01
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here take a good look at a poll done by pc gamers!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26636687

right here on game spot!!!! now picture that around the world! agin don't talk trash aroun me. One of me can take on 1000 of you!

blackdreamhunk

um...what does this have to do with anything?

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#221 mo0ksi
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here take a good look at a poll done by pc gamers!!!

http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26636687

right here on game spot!!!! now picture that around the world! agin don't talk trash aroun me. One of me can take on 1000 of you!

blackdreamhunk

What does this even prove?

Well you never really make any sense to begin with so...

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#223 clone01
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go figure out for your self your smart people at leastt I think so!

blackdreamhunk

what is there to figure out? the forum topic addresses the replayability of console games and overall quality. your link is about the abandonment of PC devs. your argument makes little sense in the context of the forum topic.

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#225 True_Gamer_
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Consoles attract publishers for 1 reason only:

CONTROL

They control how the game is played

The licensing IP on that game

They scare the average public off modding and pirating

Now check this out:

These is a Gondorian Unit in a M2TWKingdoms mod... do you think that EA the exclusive holder of LOTR movie license is happy?

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#226 clone01
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These is a Gondorian Unit in a M2TWKingdoms mod... do you think that EA the exclusive holder of LOTR movie license is happy?

True_Gamer_

um. sure.

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#228 blackdreamhunk
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If EA ceos and marketing team was smart they would work with not aginsnt people!!!! just maybe they would get better respect! better repution and more money to go along with it.
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#229 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

These is a Gondorian Unit in a M2TWKingdoms mod... do you think that EA the exclusive holder of LOTR movie license is happy?

True_Gamer_

um. sure.

I can bet my right arm that you dont even understant a word of what ive said,...

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

These is a Gondorian Unit in a M2TWKingdoms mod... do you think that EA the exclusive holder of LOTR movie license is happy?

True_Gamer_

um. sure.

I can bet my right arm that you dont even understant a word of what ive said,...

so you are an accurate gauge of my IQ? you're saying that mods produce results that would make copyright and license holders unhappy. you pretty much go on to state that this level of control is forced on consoles (even though you can make just about any imaginable character on SC4, or any imaginable level on LBP). yep, got it. do i care? no.

oh, and your sig pretty much seals your fate as an elitist hermit.

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#231 superjim42
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thats why the consoles got AAAA titles this gen well ps3 2 and xbox360 one. pc??? ye thats what i thought none!

the guy is a noob on that matter.

on the other hand the other stuff he says is sort of agreeable upon

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#232 True_Gamer_
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thats why the consoles got AAAA titles this gen well ps3 2 and xbox360 one. pc??? ye thats what i thought none!

the guy is a noob on that matter.

on the other hand the other stuff he says is sort of agreeable upon

superjim42

The single AAAA of the 360 is coming to the PC....I whanna hear what lemmings have to say about MGS4....

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#233 superjim42
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[QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats why the consoles got AAAA titles this gen well ps3 2 and xbox360 one. pc??? ye thats what i thought none!

the guy is a noob on that matter.

on the other hand the other stuff he says is sort of agreeable upon

True_Gamer_

The single AAAA of the 360 is coming to the PC....I whanna hear what lemmings have to say about MGS4....

yes that is true but will it score a ten again? i seriesly doubt it. im sure the reviewers will realise how overrated it is and give it a 8-9 score as it deserves

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#234 clone01
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you know what you are a troller that is what you are. I am done, I am far from bing done yet! I am going lets people know on meny other fourms too! blackdreamhunk

how was i trolling?

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#235 clone01
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you know what you are a troller that is what you are. I am done, I am far from bing done yet! I am going lets people know on meny other fourms too! blackdreamhunk

so are you done, or are you far from being done? i'm confused. as always, your post makes no sense, and your grammar is atrocious.

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#236 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats why the consoles got AAAA titles this gen well ps3 2 and xbox360 one. pc??? ye thats what i thought none!

the guy is a noob on that matter.

on the other hand the other stuff he says is sort of agreeable upon

superjim42

The single AAAA of the 360 is coming to the PC....I whanna hear what lemmings have to say about MGS4....

yes that is true but will it score a ten again? i seriesly doubt it. im sure the reviewers will realise how overrated it is and give it a 8-9 score as it deserves

so if A gets 10 and A gets 9 whats the difference between A and A?

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#237 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

These is a Gondorian Unit in a M2TWKingdoms mod... do you think that EA the exclusive holder of LOTR movie license is happy?

clone01

um. sure.

I can bet my right arm that you dont even understant a word of what ive said,...

[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"]

These is a Gondorian Unit in a M2TWKingdoms mod... do you think that EA the exclusive holder of LOTR movie license is happy?

True_Gamer_

um. sure.

I can bet my right arm that you dont even understant a word of what ive said,...

so you are an accurate gauge of my IQ? you're saying that mods produce results that would make copyright and license holders unhappy. you pretty much go on to state that this level of control is forced on consoles (even though you can make just about any imaginable character on SC4, or any imaginable level on LBP). yep, got it. do i care? no.

oh, and your sig pretty much seals your fate as an elitist hermit.

Im so happy for being elite and i proud of it...im amused by people with huge inferiority complexes....

Oh and before comparing Total Conversions made on a code and 3d level to in game editors try being more realistic...

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#238 superjim42
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[QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats why the consoles got AAAA titles this gen well ps3 2 and xbox360 one. pc??? ye thats what i thought none!

the guy is a noob on that matter.

on the other hand the other stuff he says is sort of agreeable upon

True_Gamer_

The single AAAA of the 360 is coming to the PC....I whanna hear what lemmings have to say about MGS4....

yes that is true but will it score a ten again? i seriesly doubt it. im sure the reviewers will realise how overrated it is and give it a 8-9 score as it deserves

so if A gets 10 and A gets 9 whats the difference between A and A?

no difference in game quality of course. but im just saying in general the game will not score a ten on the pc so the pc will not receive an AAAA game this year

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#239 True_Gamer_
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[QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="superjim42"][QUOTE="True_Gamer_"][QUOTE="superjim42"]

thats why the consoles got AAAA titles this gen well ps3 2 and xbox360 one. pc??? ye thats what i thought none!

the guy is a noob on that matter.

on the other hand the other stuff he says is sort of agreeable upon

superjim42

The single AAAA of the 360 is coming to the PC....I whanna hear what lemmings have to say about MGS4....

yes that is true but will it score a ten again? i seriesly doubt it. im sure the reviewers will realise how overrated it is and give it a 8-9 score as it deserves

so if A gets 10 and A gets 9 whats the difference between A and A?

no difference in game quality of course. but im just saying in general the game will not score a ten on the pc so the pc will not receive an AAAA game this year

Same game... I know you are just trying to find excuses so be my guest excuse yourself...

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#240 clone01
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Im so happy for being elite and i proud of it...im amused by people with huge inferiority complexes....

Oh and before comparing Total Conversions made on a code and 3d level to in game editors try being more realistic...

True_Gamer_

so i guess i understood your original post huh? reason number 11,239 why hermits are easily the most annoying posters on SW.

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#241 Snugenz
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Im so happy for being elite and i proud of it...im amused by people with huge inferiority complexes....

Oh and before comparing Total Conversions made on a code and 3d level to in game editors try being more realistic...

True_Gamer_

But you're not elite, you are infact suffering from a superiority complex, you're also aware of this seeing as you try to insult other peoples intelligence constantly just so you can feel better about yourself.

Quite sad really, you should go see a professional about that before you become some kind of megalomaniac and try to take over the world with a mouse and keyboard.

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#242 platinumxofhell
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I play the 360 but nothing compares to playing on the PC.

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#243 platinumxofhell
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Each to his own.
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#244 clone01
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Each to his own.platinumxofhell

precisely. excellent post.

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#245 PC360Wii
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Wow these guys are the ultamite hermits.

Can they address why Super Mario Bros. is still fun 20 years later?

Wasdie

:roll: they never said it wasnt fun, it just doesnt have an on going community in the same sense? people are still buying it? not really.... people bought it at the time, played it for a few days to a month, then shelved it for future nostalgia? ...

How can so many people misread this?

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#246 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="platinumxofhell"]Each to his own.clone01

precisely. excellent post.

i agree completely. platinumxofhell, you are definitely one of the most level headed folks on system wars. you never make ridiculous fanboy statements.

play what you enjoy. since when did how much fun we have on a gaming system become a competition?

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#247 lowe0
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[QUOTE="anshul89"][QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="Jade_Monkey"]

I guess if you haven't experienced a true PC gaming session consoles provide a "good" gaming experience.

clone01

Yawn. I've been playing PC games since 1994, and I prefer consoles. How old were you in 1994?

I hear the "there's no way you'd be a console gamer if you tried PC gaming" argument all the time around here, and it's still absolutely wrong.

lol !! not this again !

good argument. well, gee, i'm convinced.

In anshul's defense, we've been having this argument for months now, and it's fairly good-natured. We simply disagree on the definition of "knowledge of PC gaming", with his definition being highly unlikely for a single-player fan like myself to meet.

Im so happy for being elite and i proud of it...im amused by people with huge inferiority complexes....

True_Gamer_

Except here's the thing... being a PC gamer doesn't make you elite. It doesn't mean you're smarter. It doesn't mean you're more mature. It doesn't mean you're wealthier. It simply means you have a PC, and you play games on it. That's it. If you come up with anything that actually does make you elite, by all means, please let us know.

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#248 thesmiter
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[QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
clone01

yea well the same could be said about some game devs, companies and media about pc gaming!

Now the real bad boys come over and prove my we ahy the best and not trash talk.

who's we? you mean you and your awesome pc?

there really is not point in arguing with hardcore hermits. the concept of people enjoying things that are less expensive is foreign to them.

why take a walk in a park when you could go to an amusement park? why drive your favorite old car instead of buying a brand new benz? why go chill with friends at their house when you could go to an expensive club or resteraunt?

hermits don't get the walk in the park, the favorite car, or the hanging out with friends (probably because they lack physical contact with human beings). based on their views of consoles, you must have the best to have fun at all. anything less is inferior and people who do it are stupid. mmmkay...

i prefer free fun, like hanging out with friends. i prefer playing with friends on my console. its not the most advanced. so what? get over it, hermits.

and true gamer is just a fool. i like your ignorant sig, by the way. you prove my above statements true.

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#249 PC360Wii
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
thesmiter

yea well the same could be said about some game devs, companies and media about pc gaming!

Now the real bad boys come over and prove my we ahy the best and not trash talk.

who's we? you mean you and your awesome pc?

there really is not point in arguing with hardcore hermits. the concept of people enjoying things that are less expensive is foreign to them.

why take a walk in a park when you could go to an amusement park? why drive your favorite old car instead of buying a brand new benz? why go chill with friends at their house when you could go to an expensive club or resteraunt?

hermits don't get the walk in the park, the favorite car, or the hanging out with friends (probably because they lack physical contact with human beings). based on their views of consoles, you must have the best to have fun at all. anything less is inferior and people who do it are stupid. mmmkay...

i prefer free fun, like hanging out with friends. i prefer playing with friends on my console. its not the most advanced. so what? get over it, hermits.

Your slander is somehow better than his why? Youve just done the exact same thing...

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#250 Franko_3
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[QUOTE="clone01"][QUOTE="blackdreamhunk"]

[QUOTE="kidcool189"]some of the elite hermits in this thread are really taking it too far...

console gaming is a great thing to go along wiht a nice pc, especially previous gens of consoles
thesmiter

yea well the same could be said about some game devs, companies and media about pc gaming!

Now the real bad boys come over and prove my we ahy the best and not trash talk.

who's we? you mean you and your awesome pc?

there really is not point in arguing with hardcore hermits. the concept of people enjoying things that are less expensive is foreign to them.

on the last new, you pay 10-40$ more than me for your games+ 50$ to play with your friends every years+ you need to pay for the useless dlc that we get for free on the pc.