PC pirates are at it again

Where are you getting these numbers? in addition, MW2 was a game that seriously pissed off a lot of PC fans of the CoD franchise

@kellykelly: WOW are hermits pathetic or what?

@jhonMalcovich said:

@kellykelly said:

@jhonMalcovich said:

Do you mean they shall pay 12 bucks for this

They are making them a favor by playing it. Lol

Typical thief logic

Get the **** off. I am not even interested in playing it. My Steam backlog is too big.

Agreed... Same with my Steam backlog.

I expect Trine level quality.

You are ignoring the treatment that they gave PC gamers. They basically took the console versions and put it on PC and charged an extra £10 for it.

So you know better than Columbia University, judging by the sales of one game.

Besides most of PC folk hate COD since it got consolized with the second MW installment. Taking the sales of MW2 on PC is like taking the sales of Comand & Conquer 3 on consoles. LOL.

Except you seem to forget that the PC was shafted with MW2. NO dedicated servers were a huge hit. Not to mention the other snubs at the PC community. If you turn your back on a group guess what? They aren't going to buy your product! Imagine that. But of course it was all due to piracy right????

No one forces you to use Gamestop. I've never even been in one. I usually buy my games from smaller local gamestores who still believe in good customer service and fair deals. And when I sell my games, I sell them myself directly to other gamers, you'll get best deals that way.

Used games are a good thing for the reasons I and Yves Guillemot (CEO of Ubisoft) mentioned.

Your logic for used games could also be used for piracy as well. The more people are exposed to a game the more like they could be to buy it. See how that works? That's great that you haven't been in a Gamestop but that doesn't mean millions of others haven't, who are buying in selling games where none of the money gets back to the publisher. A game could trade hands dozens of times. In other words your point about no one forcing you is absolute rubbish. Gamestop operates with or without your consent and your anecdotal argument has no meaning.

It's funny how that consolites will believe a bogus study that has no evidence behind it but the minute evidence appears contradicting their beliefs all of sudden anecdotal evidence and flawed logic are the only thing that matters.

Your comparisons are total bullshit. 1 download doesnt = 1 lost sale, until you can prove otherwise you have no argument. Developers have said in the past that piracy doesnt effect their sales and some ( Raven Software with SOF2 and Mojang with Minecraft ) said that people who pirated a game are more likely to buy a game they like later on than someone who hasnt played it at all. - That makes sense to anyone that isnt as stupid as you apparently are. A person who buys a used game isnt going to buy the game a second time just to fund the developers.

Also remember one special characteristic of PC: shit games, especially shit ports will almost never sell on PC. The average PC gamer does a lot more research than the average console gamers; the PC platform is almost fully digitalised, so access to information even on the purchasing page is very easy; and finally, when a game flops on PC, or it's a crap port, such news travel faster than wildfire and virtually all PC gamers will catch on.

Dark Souls and GTA4 also had very poor sales initially on PC, but then after player mods fixed those games up, their sales began to increase over the years. That's another thing contributed by digital distribution. Unlike many console games with a short shelf life (putting games in stores when another game can be placed there isn't free), games on Steam have an infinite shelf life. They can be sold the day after release just as well as they can be sold 10 years after release.

What hyperbole are you coming up with? You think one single game could trade hands dozens of times (so what, over 24, 36, 48, 60 times?). Sorry that doesn't work. With piracy, they just own the game. They could buy it if they want to, if they want to part with their money. Gamestop has grown over the years because they found a market for their actions. Yes... we get it, when people buy used the sad publishers/devs don't get any money. It's a market, and the consumers have the rights and means to buy and sell their product. With the prospect of being able to sell their games, the initial risk of the investment goes down, therefore you are more willing to shell out for the expense of a $60 game. Perhaps developers should be looking at why people are so quick to sell their games. Are they trying to get more money to buy more games, or maybe, the game isn't worthwhile to hold on to. Again, thanks for pointing the obvious that he presented a personal story with used games. In fact, his "anecdotal argument" has a lot of meaning, particularly in the sense that yeah a lot of people don't use Gamestop, which is quite evil in everyone's eyes. A lot of the used market stems from being able to hunt for older games, some out of print.

Wait... you actually play games? :O

What do you like the most, have any genre preferences?

Consolites buy used games and pirate games.