PC vs console graphics - PC always wins?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

TheSterls

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

Xtasy26

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

WhenCicadasCry

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

He boasts about GoW3s Kratos chains light the surrounding envoirement, but when it comes to Cuda, he says it won't benefit the game visually in anyway. :lol:!!

Typical. lol. Let's not count the PC benefits which the PS3 can only dream of but lets count what GOW3's assets. Good one.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

WhenCicadasCry

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

When GoW 4 is released for the PS4 and uses Cuda effects, you better not be "OMIGAD TEH GRAPHIKZ!!". :P

It would enver use cuda effects because it would be pointless for that game gow4 would benefit from something like PhysX

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

TheSterls

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

PC has the best graphics hands down but its grossly overrated on SW. No PC game looks light years or a full gen ahead of Uncharted 2 which came out last year on the PS3.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

When GoW 4 is released for the PS4 and uses Cuda effects, you better not be "OMIGAD TEH GRAPHIKZ!!". :P

It would enver use cuda effects because it would be pointless for that game gow4 would benefit from something like PhysiX

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

WhenCicadasCry

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

TheSterls

When GoW 4 is released for the PS4 and uses Cuda effects, you better not be "OMIGAD TEH GRAPHIKZ!!". :P

It would enver use cuda effects because it would be pointless for that game gow4 would benefit from something like PhysX

So God Of War 3s physics and particle effects are PERFECT. They couldn't be improved on in anyway?!

Dude, just stop.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

TheSterls

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

God of War 3's...water...looks almost photo realistic?

Seriously, just stop here please.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

TheSterls

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

CUDA effects can't be done on the PS3. Those effects the game looks a heck of a lot better overallthan GOW 3. I could argue that it does look like to me that those areas in GOW3 are like it JC2. You could disagree. With CUDA effects on the other hand PS3 can't even do it, which makes the PC JC2 look a heck of a lot better. Can the PS3 do those CUDA effects?

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

Xtasy26

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

CUDA effects can't be done on the PS3. Those effects the game looks a heck of a lot better overallthan GOW 3. I could argue that it does look like to me that those areas in GOW3 are like it JC2. You could disagree. With CUDA effects on the other hand PS3 can't even do it, which makes the PC JC2 look a heck of a lot better. Can the PS3 do those CUDA effects?

Bullet physics engine, which is an offshoot of CUDA developed by a sony engineer specifically for PS3. It can't do anything near as well as what PhysX (Apparently also an offshoot of CUDA) or CUDA can do.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

ronvalencia

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

Thats only going to make a difference on massive bodies of water though GOW3 doesnt feature that other then a cutscene.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

TheSterls

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

One question, does the water in GOW3 look better than JC2 with CUDA effects?

With JC2 Cuda one coulduse Bokeh Filter? Can GOW3 do it?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

Xtasy26

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

One question, does the water in GOW3 look better than JC2 with CUDA effects?

With JC2 Cuda one coulduse Bokeh Filter? Can GOW3 do it?

The water looks like Just Cause 2 with Cuda effects off lol

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

It does make other aspects look better, things that can't be even done on the PS3, in which the PS3 can only dream of. Oh I forgot we should be dismissing all the CUDA effects because PS3 can't do it (rolls eyes).

Xtasy26

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

CUDA effects can't be done on the PS3. Those effects the game looks a heck of a lot better overallthan GOW 3. I could argue that it does look like to me that those areas in GOW3 are like it JC2. You could disagree. With CUDA effects on the other hand PS3 can't even do it, which makes the PC JC2 look a heck of a lot better. Can the PS3 do those CUDA effects?

You could argue that JC2 looks like as good as GOW3 in the areas of character models, animations and amount of enemies on screen ? Um you could but you would be wrong. i can argue pac-man looks better then kratos that doesnt make it logical.

God of War 3 doesn't look anything special. :roll: The design is masterfully crafted, but the actual graphics are nothing special. Atleast you can actually rotate the camera 360 degrees in Just Cause 2. :lol:

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Because Just Cause 2 is an open world game. I'm sure God Of War 3 could benefit with Cuda support.

Are you trolling?

Xtasy26

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

One question, does the water in GOW3 look better than JC2 with CUDA effects?

With JC2 Cuda one coulduse Bokeh Filter? Can GOW3 do it?

Um id say the small bodies of water do , Itnever uses a detailed ocean though which JC2 thrives on that as one of its enviormental details . You never see a ocean in GOW3 other then a cutscene.With cuda effects you notice much better light details and reflections on the water but is it logical to have that detal on the water you see in gow3 where its in a pitch black cave?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

But it doesnt improve the game in areas where GOW3 looks better in the first place does it.

TheSterls

CUDA effects can't be done on the PS3. Those effects the game looks a heck of a lot better overallthan GOW 3. I could argue that it does look like to me that those areas in GOW3 are like it JC2. You could disagree. With CUDA effects on the other hand PS3 can't even do it, which makes the PC JC2 look a heck of a lot better. Can the PS3 do those CUDA effects?

You could argue that JC2 looks like as good as GOW3 in the areas of character models, animations and amount of enemies on screen ? Um you could but you would be wrong. i can argue pac-man looks better then kratos that doesnt make it logical.

But the effects with CUDA, PS3 can't even do? This makes the game look a heck of a lot better. At leastJC2 has character models, animations, but maybe not the the amount of enemies on the screen. But GOW3 can't even do CUDA effects like GPU water, Bokeh filter. Which is way ahead of what the PS3 can do. So Iask again how is that a better looking game when it can't even do certain effects the PC JC2 can do?

God of War 3 doesn't look anything special. :roll: The design is masterfully crafted, but the actual graphics are nothing special. Atleast you can actually rotate the camera 360 degrees in Just Cause 2. :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

Yet technically its been praised by every media outlet. Rotating the camera has nothing to do with technical visuals .

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

TheSterls

One question, does the water in GOW3 look better than JC2 with CUDA effects?

With JC2 Cuda one coulduse Bokeh Filter? Can GOW3 do it?

Um id say the small bodies of water do , Itnever uses a detailed ocean though which JC2 thrives on that as one of its enviormental details . You never see a ocean in GOW3 other then a cutscene.With cuda effects you notice much better light details and reflections on the water but is it logical to have that detal on the water you see in gow3 where its in a pitch black cave?

Yes, somehow the bodies of water in GOW3 looks better than CUDA effects body of water which the PS3 can't even do. Fail. Not to mention things such as Bokeh filter. So fail.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Just because it can do it doent it mean it does it as well? Do all games that use hdr have equal lighting now?

TheSterls

You are implying if one engine can do it then its all the same right? hdr is a basic function of a engine so do all games that use HDR look the same now? Do all games that use dynamic lights use the same now? You asked a stupid question and I answered it. The effects have been done before yes but GOW3 does it the best ive seen .

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

CUDA effects can't be done on the PS3. Those effects the game looks a heck of a lot better overallthan GOW 3. I could argue that it does look like to me that those areas in GOW3 are like it JC2. You could disagree. With CUDA effects on the other hand PS3 can't even do it, which makes the PC JC2 look a heck of a lot better. Can the PS3 do those CUDA effects?

Xtasy26

You could argue that JC2 looks like as good as GOW3 in the areas of character models, animations and amount of enemies on screen ? Um you could but you would be wrong. i can argue pac-man looks better then kratos that doesnt make it logical.

But the effects with CUDA, PS3 can't even do? This makes the game look a heck of a lot better. At leastJC2 has character models, animations, but maybe not the the amount of enemies on the screen. But GOW3 can't even do CUDA effects like GPU water, Bokeh filter. Which is way ahead of what the PS3 can do. So Iask again how is that a better looking game when it can't even do certain effects the PC JC2 can do?

It could emulate many of those effects to a certain quality. Any game has character models( pacman has character models ) but the fact is JC2 character models are not on the same level as GOW3..... just like you are arguing the cuda effects such as water effects on gow3 are not on the same level as JC2.

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

God of War 3 doesn't look anything special. :roll: The design is masterfully crafted, but the actual graphics are nothing special. Atleast you can actually rotate the camera 360 degrees in Just Cause 2. :lol:

TheSterls

Yet technically its been praised by every media outlet. Rotating the camera has nothing to do with technical visuals .

Ofcourse it does. :| Just like when you zoom in with a scope on Crysis, your FPS doubles. It has ALOT less to render.

OP youre wrong

pc is superior get over it

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Are you trolling? Pleaese tell me an area of where cuda effects would benefit gow3 and have you acutally played the game?

1. Example The water using hte cuda effects on JC2 look outstanding far better then the water in most open world games.

2. The water in GOW3 ( the little there is ) looks almost photo realistic but would the cuda effects for an example somehow make the small streams look more realistic?

TheSterls

One question, does the water in GOW3 look better than JC2 with CUDA effects?

With JC2 Cuda one coulduse Bokeh Filter? Can GOW3 do it?

Um id say the small bodies of water do , Itnever uses a detailed ocean though which JC2 thrives on that as one of its enviormental details . You never see a ocean in GOW3 other then a cutscene.With cuda effects you notice much better light details and reflections on the water but is it logical to have that detal on the water you see in gow3 where its in a pitch black cave?

You just proved you don't have a grasp of what CUDA does. CUDA simulates/calculates the movement of fluid particles, such as water and smoke. It doesn't calculate lighting/reflections. Thats why on the JC2 demo, nothing changed about the water except the way it moved and interacted with the environment.

What makes GoW3 looks so great? The art. It's not the tech side of it that makes it look good, cause honestly it doesn't. The art style saves it from looking mediocre.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"] Wtf does hdr have to do with dynamic lights parented to objects? And GoW's lighting engine is nice and all but you shouldnt go around saying that dynamic lights make a game's lighting "outstanding, plain and simple" And Source engine actually has one of the most flexible and diverse lighting engines around.ferret-gamer

You are implying if one engine can do it then its all the same right? hdr is a basic function of a engine so do all games that use HDR look the same now? Do all games that use dynamic lights use the same now? You asked a stupid question and I answered it. The effects have been done before yes but GOW3 does it the best ive seen .

i was giving an example about some of the effects it did nice so if your not saying it looks better what the hell are you saying? You are just trolling me an it sounds like your saying a whole lot of nothing. And why are you laughing at gow3 lighting engine it can compare to anything.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

One question, does the water in GOW3 look better than JC2 with CUDA effects?

With JC2 Cuda one coulduse Bokeh Filter? Can GOW3 do it?

ChubbyGuy40

Um id say the small bodies of water do , Itnever uses a detailed ocean though which JC2 thrives on that as one of its enviormental details . You never see a ocean in GOW3 other then a cutscene.With cuda effects you notice much better light details and reflections on the water but is it logical to have that detal on the water you see in gow3 where its in a pitch black cave?

You just proved you don't have a grasp of what CUDA does. CUDA simulates/calculates the movement of fluid particles, such as water and smoke. It doesn't calculate lighting/reflections. Thats why on the JC2 demo, nothing changed about the water except the way it moved and interacted with the environment.

What makes GoW3 looks so great? The art. It's not the tech side of it that makes it look good, cause honestly it doesn't. The art style saves it from looking mediocre.

Um I watched the video the ocean looks much better In DX11 so im not sure what you are talking about

GOW uses high poly models , outstanding textures, great lighting there is nothing technically mediocre about it . But this is coming form the guy who thinks a pc game that gets the bad graphic merrit looks better then " The best graphic award winner"

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

God of War 3 doesn't look anything special. :roll: The design is masterfully crafted, but the actual graphics are nothing special. Atleast you can actually rotate the camera 360 degrees in Just Cause 2. :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

Yet technically its been praised by every media outlet. Rotating the camera has nothing to do with technical visuals .

Ofcourse it does. :| Just like when you zoom in with a scope on Crysis, your FPS doubles. It has ALOT less to render.

Except GOW3 is always rendering the whole scene have you not played the game now? The camera is always moving

. And why are you laughing at gow3 lighting engine it can compare to anything.

TheSterls

:lol: lighting does not look better than metro or STALKER in any way. Also lol at ugly ground textures :lol: Why dont you enlighten me as to why you think that looks better than the lighting in Metro or STALKER?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

You could argue that JC2 looks like as good as GOW3 in the areas of character models, animations and amount of enemies on screen ? Um you could but you would be wrong. i can argue pac-man looks better then kratos that doesnt make it logical.

TheSterls

But the effects with CUDA, PS3 can't even do? This makes the game look a heck of a lot better. At leastJC2 has character models, animations, but maybe not the the amount of enemies on the screen. But GOW3 can't even do CUDA effects like GPU water, Bokeh filter. Which is way ahead of what the PS3 can do. So Iask again how is that a better looking game when it can't even do certain effects the PC JC2 can do?

It could emulate many of those effects to a certain quality. Any game has character models( pacman has character models ) but the fact is JC2 character models are not on the same level as GOW3..... just like you are arguing the cuda effects such as water effects on gow3 are not on the same level as JC2.

That's the point. It has many of the assets of GOW3. But PS3 GOW3 can't even do CUDA GPU Water or CUDA GPU Bokeh filter which is significant or else it wouldn't take a hit on the system performance. In other words JC2 has the graphical features GOW3 can't even do. How is game A has these features graphically, but game B doesn't so game B is a better game? That's looniness.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

But the effects with CUDA, PS3 can't even do? This makes the game look a heck of a lot better. At leastJC2 has character models, animations, but maybe not the the amount of enemies on the screen. But GOW3 can't even do CUDA effects like GPU water, Bokeh filter. Which is way ahead of what the PS3 can do. So Iask again how is that a better looking game when it can't even do certain effects the PC JC2 can do?

Xtasy26

It could emulate many of those effects to a certain quality. Any game has character models( pacman has character models ) but the fact is JC2 character models are not on the same level as GOW3..... just like you are arguing the cuda effects such as water effects on gow3 are not on the same level as JC2.

That's the point. It has many of the assets of GOW3. But PS3 GOW3 can't even do CUDA GPU Water or CUDA GPU Bokeh filter which is significant or else it wouldn't take a hit on the system performance. In other words JC2 has the graphical features GOW3 can't even do. How is game A has these features graphically, but game B doesn't so game B is a better game? That's looniness.

thats not the point the shaders and the polygons are nowhere near as advanced as the char models in gow3 :|

Where is the troll with the mafia2 character pics lmao?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]. And why are you laughing at gow3 lighting engine it can compare to anything.

ferret-gamer

:lol: lighting does not look better than metro or STALKER in any way. Also lol at ugly ground textures :lol: Why dont you enlighten me as to why you think that looks better than the lighting in Metro or STALKER?

hard to show lighting off in a screenshot but gow3 has amazing lighitng have you even played the game are you just rambling ?

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Um id say the small bodies of water do , Itnever uses a detailed ocean though which JC2 thrives on that as one of its enviormental details . You never see a ocean in GOW3 other then a cutscene.With cuda effects you notice much better light details and reflections on the water but is it logical to have that detal on the water you see in gow3 where its in a pitch black cave?

TheSterls

You just proved you don't have a grasp of what CUDA does. CUDA simulates/calculates the movement of fluid particles, such as water and smoke. It doesn't calculate lighting/reflections. Thats why on the JC2 demo, nothing changed about the water except the way it moved and interacted with the environment.

What makes GoW3 looks so great? The art. It's not the tech side of it that makes it look good, cause honestly it doesn't. The art style saves it from looking mediocre.

Um I watched the video the ocean looks much better In DX11 so im not sure what you are talking about

GOW uses high poly models , outstanding textures, great lighting there is nothing technically mediocre about it . But this is coming form the guy who thinks a pc game that gets the bad graphic merrit looks better then " The best graphic award winner"

Its DX10. It looks better because it moves better.

This is comming from a guy who can tell the difference between what's actually there, and not there. you on the other hand seemingly lack basic reading comprehension, and twist things in your favor while dragging discussions off topic.

I'll say it again. The thing that makes GoW3 look good is it's art style. Technically nothing about it is really impressive. It's rendering linear corridors at a distance. Therefor it can get away with inferior details.

That's great lighting.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

It could emulate many of those effects to a certain quality. Any game has character models( pacman has character models ) but the fact is JC2 character models are not on the same level as GOW3..... just like you are arguing the cuda effects such as water effects on gow3 are not on the same level as JC2.

TheSterls

That's the point. It has many of the assets of GOW3. But PS3 GOW3 can't even do CUDA GPU Water or CUDA GPU Bokeh filter which is significant or else it wouldn't take a hit on the system performance. In other words JC2 has the graphical features GOW3 can't even do. How is game A has these features graphically, but game B doesn't so game B is a better game? That's looniness.

thats not the point the shaders and the polygons are nowhere near as advanced as the char models in gow3 :|

Yeah it is the point. GOW3 can't do CUDA GPU water or other CUDA features that make the game look better. But somehow it's not a better looking game. Troll fail. GOW 3 can't even do CUDA stuff which is significant but it's still better. Brilliant. Not to mention playing the game at 1080P 16x FSAA with 16X anistrophic filtering + CUDA which GOW3 can only dream of.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

You just proved you don't have a grasp of what CUDA does. CUDA simulates/calculates the movement of fluid particles, such as water and smoke. It doesn't calculate lighting/reflections. Thats why on the JC2 demo, nothing changed about the water except the way it moved and interacted with the environment.

What makes GoW3 looks so great? The art. It's not the tech side of it that makes it look good, cause honestly it doesn't. The art style saves it from looking mediocre.

ChubbyGuy40

Um I watched the video the ocean looks much better In DX11 so im not sure what you are talking about

GOW uses high poly models , outstanding textures, great lighting there is nothing technically mediocre about it . But this is coming form the guy who thinks a pc game that gets the bad graphic merrit looks better then " The best graphic award winner"

Its DX10. It looks better because it moves better.

This is comming from a guy who can tell the difference between what's actually there, and not there. you on the other hand seemingly lack basic reading comprehension, and twist things in your favor while dragging discussions off topic.

I'll say it again. The thing that makes GoW3 look good is it's art style. Technically nothing about it is really impressive. It's rendering linear corridors at a distance. Therefor it can get away with inferior details.

That's great lighting.

i dont twist things in my favor you argued that JC2 had better characer models then GOW3 wich is laughable I posted pics and you havent talked about it since.

And no that lighting is nothing special its good yes nothing we havent seen in several high quality games.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Um I watched the video the ocean looks much better In DX11 so im not sure what you are talking about

GOW uses high poly models , outstanding textures, great lighting there is nothing technically mediocre about it . But this is coming form the guy who thinks a pc game that gets the bad graphic merrit looks better then " The best graphic award winner"

TheSterls

Its DX10. It looks better because it moves better.

This is comming from a guy who can tell the difference between what's actually there, and not there. you on the other hand seemingly lack basic reading comprehension, and twist things in your favor while dragging discussions off topic.

I'll say it again. The thing that makes GoW3 look good is it's art style. Technically nothing about it is really impressive. It's rendering linear corridors at a distance. Therefor it can get away with inferior details.

That's great lighting.

i dont twist things in my favor you argued that JC2 had better characer models then GOW3 wich is laughable I posted pics and you havent talked about it since.

And no that lighting is nothing special its good yes nothing we havent seen in several high quality games.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Its DX10. It looks better because it moves better.

This is comming from a guy who can tell the difference between what's actually there, and not there. you on the other hand seemingly lack basic reading comprehension, and twist things in your favor while dragging discussions off topic.

I'll say it again. The thing that makes GoW3 look good is it's art style. Technically nothing about it is really impressive. It's rendering linear corridors at a distance. Therefor it can get away with inferior details.

That's great lighting.

ferret-gamer

i dont twist things in my favor you argued that JC2 had better characer models then GOW3 wich is laughable I posted pics and you havent talked about it since.

And no that lighting is nothing special its good yes nothing we havent seen in several high quality games.

I would consider it good for a high quality game putting it on the same level , why havent you answered my question HAVE YOU PLAYED THE GAME?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

Its DX10. It looks better because it moves better.

This is comming from a guy who can tell the difference between what's actually there, and not there. you on the other hand seemingly lack basic reading comprehension, and twist things in your favor while dragging discussions off topic.

I'll say it again. The thing that makes GoW3 look good is it's art style. Technically nothing about it is really impressive. It's rendering linear corridors at a distance. Therefor it can get away with inferior details.

That's great lighting.

ferret-gamer

i dont twist things in my favor you argued that JC2 had better characer models then GOW3 wich is laughable I posted pics and you havent talked about it since.

And no that lighting is nothing special its good yes nothing we havent seen in several high quality games.

He also rambles on about how because the media claims it, it must be true (the same media who claimed MGS4, which looks worse then COD4 by todays standards, looks better then Crysis Warhead) :lol:

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"] You said before that "Yep OLED is only avaiable in 11 inches now and the screens are like 2000$ there is nothing in the same league as OLED" and this "The picture quality is vast over any current plasma or lcd" This is what I said... " I'm sure as the technology develops in the future it will improve a lot but for now its a work in progress." Way to spin things again...

NVIDIATI

I didnt spin crap you just jumped into a conversation with absolutely no knowledge of what it was about. The arguemnt was that xtasy thought the naked eye has no limits to the resolution it can see . I said if res beyond 1080p is so importatn then why are the next gen of tv's( which will be oled) not even focusing on res ? Way to jump into a argument with 0 relative points.

THIS is the convo. STOP SPING THE STORY AND SPREADING YOUR BS:

It has superior contrast raito ,brightness , saturation you were blabbering about color . They will have the perfect in probably 2 years. So how him am I spnning anything troll?

Those are goign to be the next gen tv's and there not focusing on taking them above 1080p that was the point of the argument now why is that?

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

i dont twist things in my favor you argued that JC2 had better characer models then GOW3 wich is laughable I posted pics and you havent talked about it since.

And no that lighting is nothing special its good yes nothing we havent seen in several high quality games.

WhenCicadasCry

He also rambles on about how because the media claims it, it must be true (the same media who claimed MGS4, which looks worse then COD4 by todays standards, looks better then Crysis Warhead) :lol:

Did all the media claim Crysis Warhead looked better then MGs4? Um no .

You claimed Cryostasis looked better then UC2 which is laughable. Yes

[QUOTE="NVIDIATI"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

I didnt spin crap you just jumped into a conversation with absolutely no knowledge of what it was about. The arguemnt was that xtasy thought the naked eye has no limits to the resolution it can see . I said if res beyond 1080p is so importatn then why are the next gen of tv's( which will be oled) not even focusing on res ? Way to jump into a argument with 0 relative points.

TheSterls

THIS is the convo. STOP SPING THE STORY AND SPREADING YOUR BS:

It has superior contrast raito and brightness you were blabbering about color . They will have the perfect in probably 2 years. So how him am I spnning anything troll?

Contrast ratio doesn't mean anything when it doesn't have good color saturation.

@TheSteris I was clearing up a confusion multiple people had and you actually quoted ME here.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

i dont twist things in my favor you argued that JC2 had better characer models then GOW3 wich is laughable I posted pics and you havent talked about it since.

And no that lighting is nothing special itsgood yes nothing we havent seen in several high quality games.

TheSterls

I would consider it good for a high quality game putting it on the same level , why havent you answered my question HAVE YOU PLAYED THE GAME?

PS i can enlarge font too.

Metro 2033's lighting only has parity with STALKER and maybe Crysis 2, there is no other game that can touch it in lighting. No i have not "played" GoW3 i have watched my Buddy play it on a 46in samsung plasma. You however have quite obviously not played Metro 2033 on the PC at least on high/veryhigh settings if you think it is nothing special