PC vs console graphics - PC always wins?

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

You were claiming OLED 1080P would look better than Eyefinity, which has over 11+ million pixels than 1080P. So fail.TVs in the futurewill have over 1080P, so you think we are going to be stuck with 1080P forever, lol?

TheSterls

Didn't he say the eye can't see any difference past 1080p? :lol:

nope I said it would be hard to on a certain tv size and that is the truth.

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Is DMC4 a action adventure game what aboutNG? What about Bayonetta? The Belmont clan from castlevania? WTF are you trolls talking about and why dont you stay on topic. Visually the char models in JC2 dont hold a candle to GOW3 on a techincal level that is what his claim was and widley apparent by screenshots that hes dead wrong. So what does the myhology of the character and what hes wearing have anything to do with the conversation?

TheSterls

Fact:

GOW 3- Action Adventure game.

Mafia II-Action Adventure game.

JC2 - Action Adventure game.

You asked as to come up with action adventure games on the PC we did. Then you started changing the topic, fail.

Yeah, nVidia special CUDA effects will make the game look better than GOW3. So fail.

Um no it wont it cuda its not even compareable and you are arguign with me JC2 and Mafia 2 has better character models then GOW 3 thats beyond laughable.

Did I read that right, "CUDA effect it's not even comparable" to GOW3. Anybody with a half a brain can see it makes the game look better. If didn't why in the video it says, "it will affect performance" if there wasn't much improvement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A29uSkIo04s

Epic troll fail.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Didn't he say the eye can't see any difference past 1080p? :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

nope I said it would be hard to on a certain tv size and that is the truth.

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

Your picture is so compressed that the visual diffrene between those two shots you posted is minimal . How did you run arma 2 at resolutions 3k+ and not have it be a complete slideshow?

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

nope I said it would be hard to on a certain tv size and that is the truth.

TheSterls

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

Your picture is so compressed that the visual diffrene between those two shots you posted is minimal . How did you run arma 2 at resolutions 3k+ and not have it be a complete slideshow?

It was a slideshow. :lol: My computer almost exploded, but the graphical quality was amazing. :P

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Fact:

GOW 3- Action Adventure game.

Mafia II-Action Adventure game.

JC2 - Action Adventure game.

You asked as to come up with action adventure games on the PC we did. Then you started changing the topic, fail.

Yeah, nVidia special CUDA effects will make the game look better than GOW3. So fail.

Xtasy26

Um no it wont it cuda its not even compareable and you are arguign with me JC2 and Mafia 2 has better character models then GOW 3 thats beyond laughable.

Did I read that right, "CUDA effect it's not even comparable" to GOW3. Anybody with a half a brain can see it makes the game look better. If didn't why in the video it says, "it will affect performance" if there wasn't much improvement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A29uSkIo04s

Epic troll fail.

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Fact:

GOW 3- Action Adventure game.

Mafia II-Action Adventure game.

JC2 - Action Adventure game.

You asked as to come up with action adventure games on the PC we did. Then you started changing the topic, fail.

Yeah, nVidia special CUDA effects will make the game look better than GOW3. So fail.

ChubbyGuy40

Um no it wont it cuda its not even compareable and you are arguign with me JC2 and Mafia 2 has better character models then GOW 3 thats beyond laughable.

Besides Kratos, all the other characters aren't even impressive.

Most the gods look good and the mini bosses but it also has up to 50 enemies on screen at a time.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Didn't he say the eye can't see any difference past 1080p? :lol:

WhenCicadasCry

nope I said it would be hard to on a certain tv size and that is the truth.

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

PC is on DirectX11 while consoles still employ DirectX9.0cLed_poison

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

nope I said it would be hard to on a certain tv size and that is the truth.

Xtasy26

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Um no it wont it cuda its not even compareable and you are arguign with me JC2 and Mafia 2 has better character models then GOW 3 thats beyond laughable.

TheSterls

Did I read that right, "CUDA effect it's not even comparable" to GOW3. Anybody with a half a brain can see it makes the game look better. If didn't why in the video it says, "it will affect performance" if there wasn't much improvement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A29uSkIo04s

Epic troll fail.

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

CUDA effect are more than water effects. CUDA will make the game look better than GOW 3. These effects can't even be done on the consoles, duh. Nuff said. Gee I wonder where the performace hit come from if there wasn't those special effects that enhances the game. JC2 + CUDA > GOW 3.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

TheSterls

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

simple blurrier, less sharpness, etc., I have seen that with my own PS3 at 720P and comapring the same game at 1080P on the PC.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Did I read that right, "CUDA effect it's not even comparable" to GOW3. Anybody with a half a brain can see it makes the game look better. If didn't why in the video it says, "it will affect performance" if there wasn't much improvement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A29uSkIo04s

Epic troll fail.

Xtasy26

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

CUDA effect are more than water effects. CUDA will make the game look better than GOW 3. These effects can't even be done on the consoles, duh. Nuff said. Gee I wonder where the performace hit come from if there wasn't those special effects that enhances the game. JC2 + CUDA > GOW 3.

Cuda effects doenst make the character models look better then GOW3, it doesnt make the animations look better then GOW3 , the blood doesnt look as good as GOW3 so please explain to me on what lvl it pushes it above GOW 3 because most its effects are enviormental effects which goW3 doesnt even focus on ?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

Xtasy26

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

simple blurrier, less sharpness, etc., I have seen that with my own PS3 at 720P and comapring the same game at 1080P on the PC.

So your ps3 games look as bad as those screenshots posted? LOL?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Um no it wont it cuda its not even compareable and you are arguign with me JC2 and Mafia 2 has better character models then GOW 3 thats beyond laughable.

TheSterls

Did I read that right, "CUDA effect it's not even comparable" to GOW3. Anybody with a half a brain can see it makes the game look better. If didn't why in the video it says, "it will affect performance" if there wasn't much improvement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A29uSkIo04s

Epic troll fail.

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

TheSterls

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

My monitor isn't crap. :evil: Dude, upscaling does not restore every single pixel thats in a 1080p image. IT'S IMPOSSIBLE. Maybe Ronvlencia can shed some light on this subject.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

TheSterls

simple blurrier, less sharpness, etc., I have seen that with my own PS3 at 720P and comapring the same game at 1080P on the PC.

So your ps3 games look as bad as those screenshots posted? LOL?

It does look more blurry at 720P when comparing the same gameto 1080P. Especially bigger monitors.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Did I read that right, "CUDA effect it's not even comparable" to GOW3. Anybody with a half a brain can see it makes the game look better. If didn't why in the video it says, "it will affect performance" if there wasn't much improvement:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A29uSkIo04s

Epic troll fail.

ronvalencia

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

GOW3 graphics are very special and you dont even own a console you just post random links that usually have little to do with the conversation.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="WhenCicadasCry"]

Why is there always a catch in your arguments. I have a 22inch 1080p monitor, and when I supersample Arma 2 to resolutions of 3k+, the difference is staggering.

Stalker at native 1080p

Stalker at 720p, stretched to 1080p. This is how it looks when stretched to fit the native resolution, so don't give me that LOL don't you know how upscaling works because upscaling removes AA, and changes the image to 1280 x 1028

Same assets, less pixels, LESS DETAILED TEXTURES.

TheSterls

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

That was a picture scaled from 720p to 1080p using software, not a monitor. Games aren't native to anything, learn your facts.

And no, STALKER looks better than any console FPS out there today. Clear Sky is even better, and Pripyat is just amazing.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

simple blurrier, less sharpness, etc., I have seen that with my own PS3 at 720P and comapring the same game at 1080P on the PC.

Xtasy26

So your ps3 games look as bad as those screenshots posted? LOL?

It does look more blurry at 720P when comparing the same gameto 1080P. Especially bigger monitors.

Of course it wont look as crisp as native 1080p but I dont have any of my ps3 games look like that that looks like a blurry mess mabye the screenshots just compressed.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Thanks for the pic. Anybody with a half a brain can see that it's not minimal. 720P looks a lotblurrier. That's what happens when you blow 720P and put it in large screen. I have seen that with my own 50", while the 1080P looks so much sharper.

ChubbyGuy40

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

That was a picture scaled from 720p to 1080p using software, not a monitor. Games aren't native to anything, learn your facts.

And no, STALKER looks better than any console FPS out there today. Clear Sky is even better, and Pripyat is just amazing.

Yes games on consoels use native resolution and you can set a game on pc to a native resolution as well. If hes running a console game that has native 720p and his monitor doesnt scale correclty he could have problems those are facts. Um I disagree about stalker

Retook the pictures in uncompressed format, those pics are horribly artifacted.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

So your ps3 games look as bad as those screenshots posted? LOL?

TheSterls

It does look more blurry at 720P when comparing the same gameto 1080P. Especially bigger monitors.

Of course it wont look as crisp as native 1080p but I dont have any of my ps3 games look like that that looks like a blurry mess mabye the screenshots just compressed.

Now everything else is compressed cause we called your DF video low quality and compressed? Oh please.

CONSOLE GAMES LOOK THAT BAD.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

TheSterls

CUDA effect are more than water effects. CUDA will make the game look better than GOW 3. These effects can't even be done on the consoles, duh. Nuff said. Gee I wonder where the performace hit come from if there wasn't those special effects that enhances the game. JC2 + CUDA > GOW 3.

Cuda effects doenst make the character models look better then GOW3, it doesnt make the animations look better then GOW3 , the blood doesnt look as good as GOW3 so please explain to me on what lvl it pushes it above GOW 3 because most its effects are enviormental effects which goW3 doesnt even focus on ?

Talk about troll fail. Thes CUDA effects does make the game a heck of a lot better looking than anything GOW3 puts out. PS3 can only dream of doing these effects. I would like to see PS3 do all these effect and then come back talking. Oh I get it, GOW3 doesn't focus on this and that so we shouldn't count it. JC2 isn't a "hack and slah" so we should count it as "adventure game". Epic troll fail.

The only thing herms rely on is Crysis, at least get another game from your huge library of exclusives.

Sh4nk3r

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Thats what happens when you play a native 720p game that doesnt upscale on a crap monitor :|

I can tell youwith absolute truth that picture makes pretty much any consoel fps look crystal clear so please explain to me why that looks so bad.

TheSterls

That was a picture scaled from 720p to 1080p using software, not a monitor. Games aren't native to anything, learn your facts.

And no, STALKER looks better than any console FPS out there today. Clear Sky is even better, and Pripyat is just amazing.

Yes games on consoels use native resolution and you can set a game on pc to a native resolution as well. If hes running a console game that has native 720p and his monitor doesnt scale correclty he could have problems those are facts. Um I disagree about stalker

You seem to be fixated on character models. You don't praise Stalker because it has bad character models, you deny Just Cause superiority because of the character models... :? Stalker has twice as much envoirement detail then any console FPS, and it even beats Crysis in texture work. What the **** are you smoking?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

CUDA effect are more than water effects. CUDA will make the game look better than GOW 3. These effects can't even be done on the consoles, duh. Nuff said. Gee I wonder where the performace hit come from if there wasn't those special effects that enhances the game. JC2 + CUDA > GOW 3.

Xtasy26

Cuda effects doenst make the character models look better then GOW3, it doesnt make the animations look better then GOW3 , the blood doesnt look as good as GOW3 so please explain to me on what lvl it pushes it above GOW 3 because most its effects are enviormental effects which goW3 doesnt even focus on ?

Talk about troll fail. Thes CUDA effects does make the game a heck of a lot better looking than anything GOW3 puts out. PS3 can only dream of doing these effects. I would like to see PS3 do all these effect and then come back talking. Oh I get it, GOW3 doesn't focus on this and that so we shouldn't count it. JC2 is a "hack and slah" so we should count it as "adventure game". Epic troll fail.

God I wish you could learn something besdies internet lingo but as i said before nocuda effects dont make the animatiosn look better the character models still are not even in the same league as GOW3 and the blood doesnt look as good either. So what does it do? It makes the ocean look outstanding? Does GOW 3 have a massive ocean to compare it to? You think JC2 has better char models then GOW3 troll? Even with "TEH CUDA EFFECTS "

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

That was a picture scaled from 720p to 1080p using software, not a monitor. Games aren't native to anything, learn your facts.

And no, STALKER looks better than any console FPS out there today. Clear Sky is even better, and Pripyat is just amazing.

WhenCicadasCry

Yes games on consoels use native resolution and you can set a game on pc to a native resolution as well. If hes running a console game that has native 720p and his monitor doesnt scale correclty he could have problems those are facts. Um I disagree about stalker

You seem to be fixated on character models. You don't praise Stalker because it has bad character models, you deny Just Cause superiority because of the character models... :? Stalker has twice as much envoirement detail then any console FPS, and it even beats Crysis in texture work. What the **** are you smoking?

Because chubby and eggman said it beat it in character models so if we cant even agree on what is obviously not true then whats the point? It has larger enviormental detail um yea its in a sandbox envioerment. GOW3 has better character models, better animations , more enemies on screen but none of that matters right?

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Yea you read taht right gow 3 isnt a open world game that foucses on water detail , It is a linear game with great effects andno JC 2 does not look better then GOW 3 with cuda effects. If you want to compare it to other open world games that focus on the enviorment thats great but to comapre it to gow 3 makes no sense .

When did I say cuda effects wouldnt make the game look better? Does GOW3 focus on water effects? No it focues on high detailed character models with blood panting the character, it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real time . As I said before JC2 is compareable to the likes of GtA4, AC2 , RDR and Mafia 2 .

TheSterls

GOW3 graphics are very special and you dont even own a console you just post random links that usually have little to do with the conversation.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] There's nothing special with blades light up an entire room in real time.ronvalencia

GOW3 graphics are very special and you dont even own a console you just post random links that usually have little to do with the conversation.

Yep Crysis Warhead is a good looking game not sure what the point is here.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

GOW3 graphics are very special and you dont even own a console you just post random links that usually have little to do with the conversation.

TheSterls

Yep Crysis Warhead is a good looking game not sure what the point is here.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

GOW3 graphics are very special and you dont even own a console you just post random links that usually have little to do with the conversation.

Yep Crysis Warhead is a good looking game not sure what the point is here.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] The first part in Crysis Warhead has a red signal flare object which lights up the surounding environment i.e. includes water refraction.ferret-gamer

Yep Crysis Warhead is a good looking game not sure what the point is here.

Real time lighting regractions arent special? Then why do so many games use baked on lighting effects or virtually none at all. GOW3 lighting model is outstanding plain and simple.

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Cuda effects doenst make the character models look better then GOW3, it doesnt make the animations look better then GOW3 , the blood doesnt look as good as GOW3 so please explain to me on what lvl it pushes it above GOW 3 because most its effects are enviormental effects which goW3 doesnt even focus on ?

TheSterls

Talk about troll fail. Thes CUDA effects does make the game a heck of a lot better looking than anything GOW3 puts out. PS3 can only dream of doing these effects. I would like to see PS3 do all these effect and then come back talking. Oh I get it, GOW3 doesn't focus on this and that so we shouldn't count it. JC2 is a "hack and slah" so we should count it as "adventure game". Epic troll fail.

God I wish you could learn something besdies internet lingo but as i said before nocuda effects dont make the animatiosn look better the character models still are not even in the same league as GOW3 and the blood doesnt look as good either. So what does it do? It makes the ocean look outstanding? Does GOW 3 have a massive ocean to compare it to? You think JC2 has better char models then GOW3 troll? Even with "TEH CUDA EFFECTS "

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

720p

1080p

:?:?:?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

It does look more blurry at 720P when comparing the same gameto 1080P. Especially bigger monitors.

ChubbyGuy40

Of course it wont look as crisp as native 1080p but I dont have any of my ps3 games look like that that looks like a blurry mess mabye the screenshots just compressed.

Now everything else is compressed cause we called your DF video low quality and compressed? Oh please.

CONSOLE GAMES LOOK THAT BAD.

LMAO um no it doesnt.

[QUOTE="ChubbyGuy40"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Of course it wont look as crisp as native 1080p but I dont have any of my ps3 games look like that that looks like a blurry mess mabye the screenshots just compressed.

TheSterls

Now everything else is compressed cause we called your DF video low quality and compressed? Oh please.

CONSOLE GAMES LOOK THAT BAD.

LMAO um no it doesnt.

Yes, yes it does in comparison to what PC can do.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"] Dude i dont know what era of gaming you are from but dynamic lights parented to an object is nothing special at all.TheSterls

Real time lighting regractions arent special? Then why do so many games use baked on lighting effects or virtually none at all. GOW3 lighting model is outstanding plain and simple.

Ok lets take a quick look at this claim:

it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real timeTheSterls

According to you this is some amazing new technology right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkY5Xy2O58M

Whats this? Half life 2 can do it too!!! So the source engine lighting model is now outstanding right?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Talk about troll fail. Thes CUDA effects does make the game a heck of a lot better looking than anything GOW3 puts out. PS3 can only dream of doing these effects. I would like to see PS3 do all these effect and then come back talking. Oh I get it, GOW3 doesn't focus on this and that so we shouldn't count it. JC2 is a "hack and slah" so we should count it as "adventure game". Epic troll fail.

Xtasy26

God I wish you could learn something besdies internet lingo but as i said before nocuda effects dont make the animatiosn look better the character models still are not even in the same league as GOW3 and the blood doesnt look as good either. So what does it do? It makes the ocean look outstanding? Does GOW 3 have a massive ocean to compare it to? You think JC2 has better char models then GOW3 troll? Even with "TEH CUDA EFFECTS "

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

God I wish you could learn something besdies internet lingo but as i said before nocuda effects dont make the animatiosn look better the character models still are not even in the same league as GOW3 and the blood doesnt look as good either. So what does it do? It makes the ocean look outstanding? Does GOW 3 have a massive ocean to compare it to? You think JC2 has better char models then GOW3 troll? Even with "TEH CUDA EFFECTS "

TheSterls

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

So something that can render large, open world and beautiful graphics and scenery can't be compared to a game of the same genre because the other game is limited to corridor and linear levels?

....I don't really even know what to say.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

ChubbyGuy40

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

So something that can render large, open world and beautiful graphics and scenery can't be compared to a game of the same genre because the other game is limited to corridor and linear levels?

....I don't really even know what to say.

Because there not in the same genre :| Lets compare the animations to JC2 to GOW3 . Do you not see how diffrent types of games which are in diffrent sub=genres focus on certain things?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

Real time lighting regractions arent special? Then why do so many games use baked on lighting effects or virtually none at all. GOW3 lighting model is outstanding plain and simple.

ferret-gamer

Ok lets take a quick look at this claim:

it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real timeTheSterls

According to you this is some amazing new technology right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkY5Xy2O58M

Whats this? Half life 2 can do it too!!! So the source engine lighting model is now outstanding right?

Just because it can do it doent it mean it does it as well? Do all games that use hdr have equal lighting now?

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

God I wish you could learn something besdies internet lingo but as i said before nocuda effects dont make the animatiosn look better the character models still are not even in the same league as GOW3 and the blood doesnt look as good either. So what does it do? It makes the ocean look outstanding? Does GOW 3 have a massive ocean to compare it to? You think JC2 has better char models then GOW3 troll? Even with "TEH CUDA EFFECTS "

TheSterls

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Ok lets take a quick look at this claim:

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

it has detailed lighting as your blades light up an entire room in real timeTheSterls

According to you this is some amazing new technology right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkY5Xy2O58M

Whats this? Half life 2 can do it too!!! So the source engine lighting model is now outstanding right?

Just because it can do it doent it mean it does it as well? Do all games that use hdr have equal lighting now?

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

Xtasy26

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

ChubbyGuy40

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

So something that can render large, open world and beautiful graphics and scenery can't be compared to a game of the same genre because the other game is limited to corridor and linear levels?

....I don't really even know what to say.

Remember he said it's not an Action Adventure game. Only "hack and slah" are. :P

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

Oh I get it, just because the PS3 can't do all these things including the CUDA effects, which clearly make the game look better, we should just dismiss it. If the PC can do better certain special effects that the PS3 can't, those effects don't count. Brilliant. That's makes a lot of sense.

Xtasy26

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

He boasts about GoW3s Kratos chains light the surrounding envoirement, but when it comes to Cuda, he says it won't benefit the game visually in anyway. :lol:!!

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"][QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Yep Crysis Warhead is a good looking game not sure what the point is here.

TheSterls

Real time lighting regractions arent special? Then why do so many games use baked on lighting effects or virtually none at all. GOW3 lighting model is outstanding plain and simple.

On Metro 2033, http://www.eurogamer.net/articles/metro-2033-4a-engine-impresses-blog-entry

• • "All lighting is fully dynamic (including sun and skies), ability to use light-shaders, with dozens of special effects"
  • Global illumination effects and real-time reflective lights

PS; I dislike the artwork and story theme on Metro 2033, but the tech demo is nice.

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

[QUOTE="ferret-gamer"]

According to you this is some amazing new technology right?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fkY5Xy2O58M

Whats this? Half life 2 can do it too!!! So the source engine lighting model is now outstanding right?

ferret-gamer

Just because it can do it doent it mean it does it as well? Do all games that use hdr have equal lighting now?

You are implying if one engine can do it then its all the same right? hdr is a basic function of a engine so do all games that use HDR look the same now? Do all games that use dynamic lights use the same now? You asked a stupid question and I answered it. The effects have been done before yes but GOW3 does it the best ive seen .

[QUOTE="Xtasy26"]

[QUOTE="TheSterls"]

Its not about counting the effects if you want to compare JC2 to RDR do it as they are compareable games. You can see what the cuda effects vs another game that has a open enviorment without them . But to GOW3 where even if it had cuda effects it wouldnt do anything for its game design you still dont see the diffrence?

TheSterls

Right "not about counting the effects" but we should count GOW 3 stuff. Right.... So, now we are in the realm of completely discounting the effects of CUDA that clearly makes the game look a heck of a lot better than anything GOW 3 can do but because the PS3 it can't do it.Certain CUDA effects won't do anything on the game....right (rolls eyes). Whenanybody with a half a brain can see that it does make the game appeal more with those effects thus making it a better game. And we sholdn'tbe comparing this game. I though we were talking about Action Adventure Games...oh right I forgotJC2 doesn't count as an Action Adventure game in your loony world when everyone in the world thinks it does. Apparently CUDA effects doesn't count too. Epic Fail.

So cudea effects make the character models look better , the animations look better , the blood look better? They dont look like they do to me .

When GoW 4 is released for the PS4 and uses Cuda effects, you better not be "OMIGAD TEH GRAPHIKZ!!". :P