PSN+ IS OUT!! It's Mindblowingly Awesome. Live Eat Your Heart Out.

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It's funny how much relentless bashing XBL received by PS3 users for its $50 price tag and now that Sony does the same, the backpedaling begins and suddenly paying for an online service is worth it.

Makes no difference. Paying for online will always be a rip IMO.

[QUOTE="FIipMode"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

It's funny how much relentless bashing XBL received by PS3 users for its $50 price tag and now that Sony does the same, the backpedaling begins and suddenly paying for an online service is worth it.

SpinoRaptor24

Makes no difference. Paying for online will always be a rip IMO.

man right now PSN+ sucks.

[QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

It's funny how much relentless bashing XBL received by PS3 users for its $50 price tag and now that Sony does the same, the backpedaling begins and suddenly paying for an online service is worth it.

GreyFoXX4

Because I see many PS3 users suddenly supporting this feature when they were the same ones who looked down on XBL for its price tag. Whose to say that Sony won't make this a mandatory payment to continue playing on PSN?

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

It's funny how much relentless bashing XBL received by PS3 users for its $50 price tag and now that Sony does the same, the backpedaling begins and suddenly paying for an online service is worth it.

Because I see many PS3 users suddenly supporting this feature when they were the same ones who looked down on XBL for its price tag. Whose to say that Sony won't make this a mandatory payment to continue playing on PSN?

[QUOTE="GreyFoXX4"][QUOTE="SpinoRaptor24"]

It's funny how much relentless bashing XBL received by PS3 users for its $50 price tag and now that Sony does the same, the backpedaling begins and suddenly paying for an online service is worth it.

SpinoRaptor24

Because I see many PS3 users suddenly supporting this feature when they were the same ones who looked down on XBL for its price tag. Whose to say that Sony won't make this a mandatory payment to continue playing on PSN?

Ok buddy PSN+ isnt all that great (yet) so calm down, Im pretty sure its going to get better as it keeps growing. PSN+ is good but lets not get carried away hereRTUUMM

The value is highly dependent on the content, and based on the first two months' offerings I'm not giving Sony my money. Paying for a whole year just feels like a gamble. Might pay off and it might not.InsaneBasura

man right now PSN+ sucks.

LegatoSkyheart

It's certainly pretty good. I signed up just now and I almost "technically" made my money back already. Free 3 months (18 dollar value), Wipeout HD (20), and Rally Cross (6). That's already 44 bucks.

yokofox33

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

man right now PSN+ sucks.

RogueShodown

from what I hear canadians dont even get a free full game, only a mini game?. Gold is better than PSN in canada.

but 1 vs 100 beats anything PSN has!

Until you get Cross-game chat, Party chat, Espn, Last Fm, using netflix without a disc, and steam 1080p movies it's not better than XBL. 8)

Until you get Cross-game chat, Party chat, Espn, Last Fm, using netflix without a disc, and steam 1080p movies it's not better than XBL. 8)

xhawk27

[QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Until you get Cross-game chat, Party chat, Espn, Last Fm, using netflix without a disc, and steam 1080p movies it's not better than XBL. 8)

TehNubTuber

you do know that...well....how do I explain this...I dont think I can find words that will be simple enough for you to understand why what you said is sooo wrong

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="xhawk27"]

Until you get Cross-game chat, Party chat, Espn, Last Fm, using netflix without a disc, and steam 1080p movies it's not better than XBL. 8)

gamer-adam1

you do know that...well....how do I explain this...I dont think I can find words that will be simple enough for you to understand why what you said is sooo wrong

joke thread

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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"] We get most of that and more, we also have a browser which does tons more. And paying to get games, DLC, themes and tons of content > paying to access something you've already bought.TehNubTuber

you do know that...well....how do I explain this...I dont think I can find words that will be simple enough for you to understand why what you said is sooo wrong

well for starters, if im not misstaken xbox live has WAY more content than PSN

Live gets discounts every week

1 vs 100, is a free game thats is also live, where you can win up to 10,000 gamer points, free games, and even REAL prizes

tons of contests, free unlockable stuff for your avatars, and more, im not listing more because I dont get the same stuff as the US gets canadians get less.

and we pay for server, fast downloads, fast updates, funny mods, a whole fourm section on xbox.com for stupid people (banned people). our updates are so fast that we dont need them to update in the background, also games are always being updated...not sure often why

IT'S FREE!!!!!!

But you have to PAY to get this "free" stuff. YOU HAVE TO PAY.

.....IT'S FREE!!!!

Cows are delusional. Come back to me when Sony offers cross game chat for free like Live has. By the way, when your subscription runs out with PSN+, everything that you just spent hard earned money on, is gone. That's it. Live, everything you spend hard earned money on, YOU KEEP FOREVER.

HURR DERP DERP

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"][QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

you do know that...well....how do I explain this...I dont think I can find words that will be simple enough for you to understand why what you said is sooo wrong

gamer-adam1

well for starters, if im not misstaken xbox live has WAY more content than PSN

Live gets discounts every week

1 vs 100, is a free game thats is also live, where you can win up to 10,000 gamer points, free games, and even REAL prizes

tons of contests, free unlockable stuff for your avatars, and more, im not listing more because I dont get the same stuff as the US gets canadians get less.

and we pay for server, fast downloads, fast updates, funny mods, a whole fourm section on xbox.com for stupid people (banned people). our updates are so fast that we dont need them to update in the background, also games are always being updated...not sure often why

What content XBL live provides without $50 annual subscription?

PSN on other hand provides a online games, trophies, videos, demos, PS home, ability to add friends, web browser, Youtube, Facebook, Netflixwithoutpaying for subscription. This is why PSN>Live

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[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"] It would help if you at least tried to make sense...fun-da-mental

well for starters, if im not misstaken xbox live has WAY more content than PSN

Live gets discounts every week

1 vs 100, is a free game thats is also live, where you can win up to 10,000 gamer points, free games, and even REAL prizes

tons of contests, free unlockable stuff for your avatars, and more, im not listing more because I dont get the same stuff as the US gets canadians get less.

and we pay for server, fast downloads, fast updates, funny mods, a whole fourm section on xbox.com for stupid people (banned people). our updates are so fast that we dont need them to update in the background, also games are always being updated...not sure often why

What content XBL live provide without $50 annual subscription compared to PSN?

PSN on other hand provides a online games, trophies, videos, demos, PS home, ability to add friends, web browser, Youtube, Facebook, Netflixwithoutpaying for subscription. This is why PSN>Live

psn+ pay 50 bucks a year to rent 5-15 dollar games, dlc, 2 dollar thems and avaters, You still don't get cross game chat and psn will still go down. And freeze and crash.

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"] It would help if you at least tried to make sense...fun-da-mental

well for starters, if im not misstaken xbox live has WAY more content than PSN

Live gets discounts every week

1 vs 100, is a free game thats is also live, where you can win up to 10,000 gamer points, free games, and even REAL prizes

tons of contests, free unlockable stuff for your avatars, and more, im not listing more because I dont get the same stuff as the US gets canadians get less.

and we pay for server, fast downloads, fast updates, funny mods, a whole fourm section on xbox.com for stupid people (banned people). our updates are so fast that we dont need them to update in the background, also games are always being updated...not sure often why

What content XBL live provides without $50 annual subscription?

PSN on other hand provides a online games, trophies, videos, demos, PS home, ability to add friends, web browser, Youtube, Facebook, Netflixwithoutpaying for subscription. This is why PSN>Live

for me 1 vs 100 is worth it. deal of the week. cross game chat, msn. fast updates, the guild, videos, demos, add friends, veiw friends of friends, large selection of games. able to view friends, add friends, send msgs, buy things, downloads things, all from the comfort of the internet

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[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"]

well for starters, if im not misstaken xbox live has WAY more content than PSN

Live gets discounts every week

1 vs 100, is a free game thats is also live, where you can win up to 10,000 gamer points, free games, and even REAL prizes

tons of contests, free unlockable stuff for your avatars, and more, im not listing more because I dont get the same stuff as the US gets canadians get less.

and we pay for server, fast downloads, fast updates, funny mods, a whole fourm section on xbox.com for stupid people (banned people). our updates are so fast that we dont need them to update in the background, also games are always being updated...not sure often why

KittenWishes

What content XBL live provide without $50 annual subscription compared to PSN?

PSN on other hand provides a online games, trophies, videos, demos, PS home, ability to add friends, web browser, Youtube, Facebook, Netflixwithoutpaying for subscription. This is why PSN>Live

i wanna know who thought it was a smart idea to use a controller to search on the internet

i wanna know who thought it was a smart idea to use a controller to search on the internet

gamer-adam1

for me 1 vs 100 is worth it. deal of the week. cross game chat, msn. fast updates, the guild, videos, demos, add friends, veiw friends of friends, large selection of games. able to view friends, add friends, send msgs, buy things, downloads things, all from the comfort of the internet

gamer-adam1

psn+ pay 50 bucks a year to rent 5-15 dollar games, dlc, 2 dollar thems and avaters, You still don't get cross game chat and psn will still go down. And freeze and crash.

James161324

You must be angry that you're missing out.

What content XBL live provides without $50 annual subscription?

PSN on other hand provides a online games, trophies, videos, demos, PS home, ability to add friends, web browser, Youtube, Facebook, Netflixwithoutpaying for subscription. This is why PSN>Live

LOL this is a fail list, we have had most of these features since the xbox 360 luanched in 2005 "the ability to add freinds" yeah buddy we've had that since the original Xbox back in 2003 LOL!!! but omg you guys have facebook, wow oh NO i guess i should throw out my **** laptop that can do facebook and youtube better than both consoles, o look Trophies, copy from achievements, oh look demos and videos guys we are seriously beat man we need to step up our game because weve only had demos and videos for 5 years, and im sorry you still need to pay for a netflix subscription in order to watch netflix or did you think netflix would let you see the movies for free? LOL you fail so hard this is why PS3 fanboys are so amusing. Oh and have fun paying 50 dollars for "free games" that are only accesible when you have to pay for PSN plus (stupidity) and also have fun paying 50 dollars a year and not having cross game chat. LOL fail again.

For those criticizing the fact that if you stop paying you can't play the games, the same happens with Live except with ALL games that have online :/

For those criticizing the fact that if you stop paying you can't play the games, the same happens with Live except with ALL games that have online :/

muzik_mafia

actually No granted i can't play games online if i don't pay for Gold but I still own all my games and content no one to tell me i can't play my game on my console becasue i didn't pay.

Most of that should be free.RogueShodown

[QUOTE="gamer-adam1"] Plug your keyboard and mouse into your PS3. Problem solved. [QUOTE="gamer-adam1"] for me 1 vs 100 is worth it. deal of the week. cross game chat, msn. fast updates, the guild, videos, demos, add friends, veiw friends of friends, large selection of games. able to view friends, add friends, send msgs, buy things, downloads things, all from the comfort of the internet

RogueShodown

psn+ pay 50 bucks a year to rent 5-15 dollar games, dlc, 2 dollar thems and avaters, You still don't get cross game chat and psn will still go down. And freeze and crash.

James161324

You must be angry that you're missing out.

Im not going to buy a keyboard and mouse just to use the web browser that sucks. and everything I said was free except for 1 vs 100, which is for gold users, and sumtimes silver users. and hes missing out on buying games? I wouldnt buy PS+ from what I hear I wont even get wipeout HD free

IGN described PS Plus good. '' Colin Moriarty: Exactly. It's not really hard to rationalize it in your head as being a good deal... it's more a matter of if you are willing to do it or not. I pay a monthly subscription to Netflix. That doesn't mean I get to keep every Blu-ray I rent, nor does it mean I get lifetime access to their streaming network. It means that as long as I subscribe, I can watch any of their movies, and when I stop subscribing, I don't have that access anymore. It's ludicrous that people attack this part of PlayStation Plus as being a negative. Let me give you an example. I "bought" WipEout HD last night. It's usually $20, but for me, it was free, because I'm a PlayStation Plus member. Now, a lot of naysayers are quick to say that I'm simply renting the game, because I don't get to keep it if I stop subscribing. So let's say they're right. Let's say that I am renting the game. And let's say that, conservatively, I'd spend $5 a week on a rental from a brick and mortar store. So I get to "rent" Wipeout HD for 64 weeks. If I were to rent it at $5 a week, it'd cost me $320 over that span. Even at a dollar a week, it's still $64, or $14 more than the yearly subscription to PlayStation Plus. Instead, I paid $50 to rent WipEout HD for 15 months, plus I get access to 14 other free games to "rent" over that period, plus I get discounts on games, DLC, and more that I actually get to keep. So... what was the negative again? ''killzowned24

I dont rly hate it, i just dont get it, right now the only point of getting it is free games, which depends on what country you live in. but other than that its not different from regular psn

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For those criticizing the fact that if you stop paying you can't play the games, the same happens with Live except with ALL games that have online :/

Sniping_Crowbar

actually No granted i can't play games online if i don't pay for Gold but I still own all my games and content no one to tell me i can't play my game on my console becasue i didn't pay.

Well you're missing a good chunk of that game. Do you feel good knowing that Modern Warfare 2 is all yours, with the campaign, Spec Ops and splitscreen for $65?

And tell me that in a year Wipeout HD will be the only thing your gaming craving hungers for. I've traded in plenty of old games, some I regret (want Killzone 2 back) but I don't care as much because i have NEW GAMES

[QUOTE="RogueShodown"] Most of that should be free.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

psn+ pay 50 bucks a year to rent 5-15 dollar games, dlc, 2 dollar thems and avaters, You still don't get cross game chat and psn will still go down. And freeze and crash.

KittenWishes

You must be angry that you're missing out.

Im not going to buy a keyboard and mouse just to use the web browser that sucks. and everything I said was free except for 1 vs 100, which is for gold users, and sumtimes silver users. and hes missing out on buying games? I wouldnt buy PS+ from what I hear I wont even get wipeout HD free

Why did you complain about not being able to use a KB and mouse on the browser if you weren't gonna use it anyway? You're just looking for things to complain about now. I would be surprised if you even own a PS3. I don't know about Wipeout HD, but I don't think it would make sense for Sony to exclude it for certain people, unless replaced by a different game.

psn+ pay 50 bucks a year to rent 5-15 dollar games, dlc, 2 dollar thems and avaters, You still don't get cross game chat and psn will still go down. And freeze and crash.

James161324

XBL has larger record of downtime than PSN. What happened in holiday 2007 alone outweights all of PSN's downtime.

[QUOTE="James161324"]

psn+ pay 50 bucks a year to rent 5-15 dollar games, dlc, 2 dollar thems and avaters, You still don't get cross game chat and psn will still go down. And freeze and crash.

Shadow2k6

XBL has larger record of downtime than PSN. What happened in holiday 2007 alone outweights all of PSN's downtime.

IGN(norant) logic in action, why would you "rent" a game for "64 weeks" from a store? They have to make up their own, bizarre scenarios in order to try and make Sony's elaborate rental service look like value-for-money.KittenWishes

[QUOTE="KittenWishes"]IGN(norant) logic in action, why would you "rent" a game for "64 weeks" from a store? They have to make up their own, bizarre scenarios in order to try and make Sony's elaborate rental service look like value-for-money.RogueShodown

[QUOTE="RogueShodown"][QUOTE="KittenWishes"]IGN(norant) logic in action, why would you "rent" a game for "64 weeks" from a store? They have to make up their own, bizarre scenarios in order to try and make Sony's elaborate rental service look like value-for-money.genaroll

i like games.. so for me, ps+ is an awesome deal

Looks like Sony is following Microsofts lead. Rumour has it that you can access Hulu only by subscribing to PS+, and I wouldn't be surprised if Netflix goes next, and if they start taking about things from the regular PSN.

[QUOTE="TehNubTuber"]Dude Sony said they WOULD keep adding content what are you talking about? And With Live once you stop paying the online portion of all your games stops working too... Not sure why your calling PSN+ on that if your such a big PS3 fan and ignoring Live tremendous flaws.ZIMdoom

I'm saying the games they offer don't accumulate. SO they are offering Wipeout HD this month. If you don't download it, it goes away. This is very clearly stated on Sony's own website:

As a subscriber, you can expect to get your hands on free monthly PSN games, minis and PS One Classics from the PSN Store. You will be able to download these games during the month they are available until the new selection replaces them.

So what I was saying is that they aren't technically ALWAYS adding stuff so much as replacing it each month with new choices. But for people who don't sign up THIS MONTH, they miss out.

And no, with XBL, your games DON'T stop working. If you buy/download a game off of XBL, it is yours. Just like if you download a game off of PSn...it is yours FOR EVER. But if you download Wipeout this month as their "deal", then you decide the service isn't for you, you LOSE that game. You can no longer play it. So what did you pay for?

Like I said, I'm still going to subscribe, but I don't see anything that "mindblowing" about it.

This.