Ratchet and Clank Team rips on Aaron Thomas (gamespot) Review

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#1 squallff8_fan
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One of the reviews had sticked out to them which prompted the crew to say "If you hate variety, than you've got a problem.", "play more sports games", and "we will not mention the media outlet".

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-78986.aspx

Coming from a dev team that makes AAA titles, I dont blame them because Resistance Fall of Man and Ratchet And Clank Tools of Destruction deserve more credit and reason I point and say RFOM shouldve been AAA because of RFOM>>>>>>>>>PDZ, say what u like but its the honest truth.

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Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

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They should've sent him a review guide.
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#4 Zero-G_basic
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Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

BioShockOwnz
Why would a dev be carring about reviews? they need to pay attention to sales.
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#6 blues3531
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they make a good point because one of the negatives on the game from aaron was just that it did too much??? wtf. if you want your games to get all repeptive and boring than play dead rising or something. r&c:tod and resistance are seriously awesome games
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#7 Fignewton50
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Wow, it's one guys opinion. Too bad, get over it.
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#9 Stonin
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They should've sent him a review guide. BlueBarad

lol.

The score here was a little on the low side but lets face it, the game isn't really all that now is it. The same applies to RFOM, it is a great game in its own way but at the time it released (a year after PDZ) it didn't bring anything new.

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#10 MasterChumly
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

Zero-G_basic

Why would a dev be carring about reviews? they need to pay attention to sales.

Then you can triple the :cry: :cry: :cry:

This game is gonna bomb compared to PS2 Ratchet and Clank games.

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#11 GIJames248
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It seems like bad press to complain about reviews of your game. Personally though, people have been pushing variety for years so I can see what they are annoyed about.
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#12 DaysAirlines
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It's only Sony developers complaining about scores lately, Jaffe, Insomniac, Factor 5.
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#13 haris12121212
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Well I do find the review very "unprofessional" but it is not like the first game to get a review on GS that simply doesn't come close to the avarage GR scores. GS tends to underrate games many games. But I look at it on a bright side, If someone that cares about reviews buys a game that got A (the person would excpect A quality game) but the game is fort AAA quality, well the person will just about be satisfied with the buy because it was much more thant what he expected.
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#14 Bazfrag
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Boohoo we created a generic action platformer, with no online functions or splitsreen multiplayer and Gamespot reviewed it fairly :)
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#15 GIJames248
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

Zero-G_basic

Why would a dev be carring about reviews? they need to pay attention to sales.

Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

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Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

GIJames248

Link or it didn't happen.

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Boohoo we created a generic action platformer, with no online functions or splitsreen multiplayer and Gamespot reviewed it fairly :)Bazfrag
so you're saying all the other 20+ sites that gave it AAA are wrong? this is one guys opinion against the opinions of the aforementioned 20+ places who gave it AAA...hmm who to believe...thats a tough one...maybeif you played the game you would know its nowhere near a 7.5, more like an 8.5-9.0
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[QUOTE="Zero-G_basic"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

GIJames248

Why would a dev be carring about reviews? they need to pay attention to sales.

Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

And Halo sold by the truckloads i think they really weren't to bothered since their game scored in the 9.0 range in most places.
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#19 Stonin
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[QUOTE="Bazfrag"]Boohoo we created a generic action platformer, with no online functions or splitsreen multiplayer and Gamespot reviewed it fairly :)mmirza23
so you're saying all the other 20+ sites that gave it AAA are wrong? this is one guys opinion against the opinions of the aforementioned 20+ places who gave it AAA...hmm who to believe...thats a tough one...maybeif you played the game you would know its nowhere near a 7.5, more like an 8.5-9.0

8.5 i'd give you but it isn't a AAA title i'm afraid as the replay value just isn't there.

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#20 mmirza23
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[QUOTE="GIJames248"]

Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

BlueBarad

Link or it didn't happen.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Bungie-Answers-039-Halo-3-is-Halo-2-in-HD-039-Accustaions-67011.shtml
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#22 BlueBarad
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What happend to taking it like men?

Why do we need cry babies.

Buh buh but teh Review is bad.

C'mon get a life, read the critics and look for ways to improve.

Online? Difficulty at the beginning?

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#23 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

Zero-G_basic

Why would a dev be carring about reviews? they need to pay attention to sales.

...because they're unprofessional? emo? upset that some aren't worshiping their product?

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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="Bazfrag"]Boohoo we created a generic action platformer, with no online functions or splitsreen multiplayer and Gamespot reviewed it fairly :)Stonin

so you're saying all the other 20+ sites that gave it AAA are wrong? this is one guys opinion against the opinions of the aforementioned 20+ places who gave it AAA...hmm who to believe...thats a tough one...maybeif you played the game you would know its nowhere near a 7.5, more like an 8.5-9.0

8.5 i'd give you but it isn't a AAA title i'm afraid as the replay value just isn't there.

i think the replay value is there, there are so many weapons and gadgets at your disposal you jsut cant use every single one to its full potential by the end of the game, and you unlock higher difficulty levels after you beat it once, which takes about 12 hours, so playing it again another 12, i know its nothing compared to the endless hours of say oblivion or an fps with a good online multiplayer, but i think it has solid replay value
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One of the reviews had sticked out to them which prompted the crew to say "If you hate variety, than you've got a problem.", "play more sports games", and "we will not mention the media outlet".

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-78986.aspx

Coming from a dev team that makes AAA titles, I dont blame them because Resistance Fall of Man and Ratchet And Clank Tools of Destruction deserve more credit and reason I point and say RFOM shouldve been AAA because of RFOM>>>>>>>>>PDZ, say what u like but its the honest truth.

squallff8_fan

That's actually pretty childish of them. Shows they can not take criticism. not everyone's gonna like everything facto f life. This reminds me of that other crybaby dev from the PS3 the "Calling All Cars" guy or is that the same team? I don't know. What I DO know is this is the type of profession they chose and really they look unprofessional like a school yard kid cracking "yo momma" jokes cause someone else said something about their momma. Grow up!

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#26 the_h_bomb
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:lol: what a bunch of babies. Miyamoto didnt cry when sunshine underperformed but these guys are throwing a fit because their derivative trash got the score it deserved.

here's an idea guys, next time try making a game that isnt just a PS2 game in HD.

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#27 Javy03
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It's only Sony developers complaining about scores lately, Jaffe, Insomniac, Factor 5.DaysAirlines

If I recall the Shadowrun devs were crying at the reviews his game got.

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#28 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="BlueBarad"][QUOTE="GIJames248"]

Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

mmirza23

Link or it didn't happen.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Bungie-Answers-039-Halo-3-is-Halo-2-in-HD-039-Accustaions-67011.shtml

apples and oranges. that was a simple response to the concern. this was a cheap, blatant attack. something I'd expect from 18 year olds.

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They should've sent him a review guide. BlueBarad

:lol::lol::lol:

It's in the mail!!!! :P

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I don't think it's a good idea to rip a Gamespot reviewer - when they probably have a major influence on who buys what games...

Just a little tip for those R&C guys...

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[QUOTE="BlueBarad"]They should've sent him a review guide. Stonin

lol.

The score here was a little on the low side but lets face it, the game isn't really all that now is it. The same applies to RFOM, it is a great game in its own way but at the time it released (a year after PDZ) it didn't bring anything new.

I can say the same thing for halo 3, if we go by your logic. What does halo 3 bring that is new to gaming? I thought so, next. :)

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#32 Dreams-Visions
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[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

One of the reviews had sticked out to them which prompted the crew to say "If you hate variety, than you've got a problem.", "play more sports games", and "we will not mention the media outlet".

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-78986.aspx

Coming from a dev team that makes AAA titles, I dont blame them because Resistance Fall of Man and Ratchet And Clank Tools of Destruction deserve more credit and reason I point and say RFOM shouldve been AAA because of RFOM>>>>>>>>>PDZ, say what u like but its the honest truth.

thegame1980

That's actually pretty childish of them. Shows they can not take criticism. not everyone's gonna like everything facto f life. This reminds me of that other crybaby dev from the PS3 the "Calling All Cars" guy or is that the same team? I don't know. What I DO know is this is the type of profession they chose and really they look unprofessional like a school yard kid cracking "yo momma" jokes cause someone else said something about their momma. Grow up!

Different team. and yes, David Jaffe dedicated a whole blog entry to whining about how people didn't like Calling All Cars (which majorly sucked...yes, I bought it).

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Same guys who said SMG immitates R&C right?
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Rrrroooeeeerrrrrrrrrrr. **That is the universal noise of a cat fight**.
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[QUOTE="Stonin"]

[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="Bazfrag"]Boohoo we created a generic action platformer, with no online functions or splitsreen multiplayer and Gamespot reviewed it fairly :)mmirza23

so you're saying all the other 20+ sites that gave it AAA are wrong? this is one guys opinion against the opinions of the aforementioned 20+ places who gave it AAA...hmm who to believe...thats a tough one...maybeif you played the game you would know its nowhere near a 7.5, more like an 8.5-9.0

8.5 i'd give you but it isn't a AAA title i'm afraid as the replay value just isn't there.

i think the replay value is there, there are so many weapons and gadgets at your disposal you jsut cant use every single one to its full potential by the end of the game, and you unlock higher difficulty levels after you beat it once, which takes about 12 hours, so playing it again another 12, i know its nothing compared to the endless hours of say oblivion or an fps with a good online multiplayer, but i think it has solid replay value

What does it offer over the previous versions? Other than better graphics i'd say it actually had less going for it.

7,5 seems fair to me if it got 9 then Mario deserves 13 and Gamespot needs to redo the rating system again.

Remember that out of 10, 5 is the average. So 7.5 means that r&c is well above the average tat but not a genre leading classic. Too many average games get reviews of 8 and above and it has to stop. Thats why i like the new ratings.

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#36 Dreams-Visions
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Same guys who said SMG immitates R&C right?Ilived

ZING!

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One of the reviews had sticked out to them which prompted the crew to say "If you hate variety, than you've got a problem.", "play more sports games", and "we will not mention the media outlet".

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-78986.aspx

Coming from a dev team that makes AAA titles, I dont blame them because Resistance Fall of Man and Ratchet And Clank Tools of Destruction deserve more credit and reason I point and say RFOM shouldve been AAA because of RFOM>>>>>>>>>PDZ, say what u like but its the honest truth.

squallff8_fan

RFOM> PDZ?

PDZ came out a year before and was the first next gen shooter

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For anyone who says these devs are childish or they shouldnt do this. Man u try go working on a game that u put many hours into and then see reviews like this saying that is bad to have to much variety. If u dont understand devs point of views then u simply are a one minded idiot, that doesnt think twice. Its like whatever one game site feeds u, u believe it. Lmao I feel bad for u gamers who think that way. :)
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Like I said previously, it deserves that 7.5.
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"gamespot resistance: fall of man tournament." Ross quickly reminded the rest of the crew that the tournament is now called "the resistance: fall of man tournament with the website whose name we shall no longer mention" :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:
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For anyone who says these devs are childish or they shouldnt do this. Man u try go working on a game that u put many hours into and then see reviews like this saying that is bad to have to much variety. If u dont understand devs point of views then u simply are a one minded idiot, that doesnt think twice. Its like whatever one game site feeds u, u believe it. Lmao I feel bad for u gamers who think that way. :)squallff8_fan

Everyone should be able to accept a little constructive criticism. Of course they want people to like it, but they can't be upset when everyone doesn't. Especially people being paid to review and critique games.

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#42 JiveT
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Poor old Insomniac. They knew R&C series was played out. Sad to see they are throwing a fit about it. Should have had online, more challenge, and a different art style.

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[QUOTE="BlueBarad"][QUOTE="GIJames248"]

Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

mmirza23

Link or it didn't happen.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Bungie-Answers-039-Halo-3-is-Halo-2-in-HD-039-Accustaions-67011.shtml

They are responding to "critics" and not picking on a single person.

It's ok for example for Factor 5 to complain that the Lair reviews are not good. But no ok for them to pick on one reviewer and single her out.

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#44 thegame1980
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I can say the same thing for halo 3, if we go by your logic. What does halo 3 bring that is new to gaming? I thought so, next. :)squallff8_fan

Well considering there's only been 3 Halo games and SIX R&C games with NOTHING REMOTELY changed I'd say it's a bit more stagnant then the Halo games.

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I don't think it's a good idea to rip a Gamespot reviewer - when they probably have a major influence on who buys what games...

Just a little tip for those R&C guys...

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For anyone who says these devs are childish or they shouldnt do this. Man u try go working on a game that u put many hours into and then see reviews like this saying that is bad to have to much variety. If u dont understand devs point of views then u simply are a one minded idiot, that doesnt think twice. Its like whatever one game site feeds u, u believe it. Lmao I feel bad for u gamers who think that way. :)squallff8_fan

Stop defending their crying. It's very unprofessional. And yes, it's that simple. 95% of all games SUCK. Shall we expect all of them to cry about scoring because they poured blood, sweat and tears into their release? No. They're professionals.

[QUOTE="squallff8_fan"]

One of the reviews had sticked out to them which prompted the crew to say "If you hate variety, than you've got a problem.", "play more sports games", and "we will not mention the media outlet".

http://www.n4g.com/ps3/News-78986.aspx

Coming from a dev team that makes AAA titles, I dont blame them because Resistance Fall of Man and Ratchet And Clank Tools of Destruction deserve more credit and reason I point and say RFOM shouldve been AAA because of RFOM>>>>>>>>>PDZ, say what u like but its the honest truth.

zero9167

RFOM> PDZ?

PDZ came out a year before and was the first next gen shooter

it also stands to mention that RFOM is not AAA at GR.

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#47 RonnieLottinSF
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I have been playing the game I do agree the score was a bit low. I personally would have gave the game a 8.5. It is by far the best game yet on the PS3 as far as exclusives go.
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#48 lt-rickhunter
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Here's what the dev team looks like:

:( :cry:

Tough up men.

BioShockOwnz
lol that looked like you back when every one was talking about about legorza 2. lol but your post is funny lol
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[QUOTE="mmirza23"][QUOTE="BlueBarad"][QUOTE="GIJames248"]

Bungie was annoyed by the critiques of Halo 3 graphical prowess or (in some peoples opinions) lack thereof. I think they issued a statement defending their art direction which is quite different from what they were critiqued for. So obviously devs do care about their games reviews.

BlueBarad

Link or it didn't happen.

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Bungie-Answers-039-Halo-3-is-Halo-2-in-HD-039-Accustaions-67011.shtml

They are responding to "critics" and not picking on a single person.

It's ok for example for Factor 5 to complain that the Lair reviews are not good. But no ok for them to pick on one reviewer and single her out.

Either way, lemmings pointed and laughed.

Best approach is to simply STHU as a developer, becasue responding to someone's review is juvenile. You don't see movie directors pissing and moaning because Ebert & Roper didn't like their stuff, now do you?

No. They're professionals.

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Poor old Insomniac. They knew R&C series was played out. Sad to see they are throwing a fit about it. Should have had online, more challenge, and a different art style.

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