Redfall reviews leak, official review embargo set to lift today- GameSpot review 4/10

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#451  Edited By Pedro
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@above_average said:
@Archangel3371 said:

@above_average: My desire for Game Pass is to have a bunch of games to play and enjoy for a monthly fee. I’m currently getting that very thing. Seeing clowns like you get all bent out of shape over that is just a bonus. 😅

You ironically also said you don't believe MS only want to rely on these unfinished, early access, no content indie level games for their 1st party content on the service.

lol I'm not bent out of shape, just amazing at your gullibility. I don't give AF about you subbing to the service, I was just addressing your delusion.

Again, Enjoy your sunken place.

You don't give a **** about him subbing but spent several comments yelling and screaming about him subbing to a service he is happy with.😂

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@above_average: Um, well yeah because they shouldn’t keep releasing poor quality games on their service. Again what part of I’m currently more invested in a lot of the third party stuff right now with a few good first party games like HiFi Rush is tripping you up? Reading comprehension, learn it.

You’re clearly bent out of shape over it that you can’t read straight. 😅

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#454  Edited By above_average
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@Antwan3K said:
@above_average said:
@Antwan3K said:
@above_average said:

[..]

nothing you said changes the fact that Xbox has released critically acclaimed titles (the most highest rated games of any publisher in 2021) directly into Game Pass.. your false narrative is false..

and RedFall was in development way before Bethesda was bought by Microsoft.. heck, the game was in development for PS5.. so please spare us your fanboy BS.. the game flopped epically.. no argument there.. but you and the rest of the alt squad's obsession with blaming everything including global warming on Game Pass is nonsense..

Sony Cites Redfall’s Harvey Smith After Cancellation of PS5 Version in Its Response to the CMA

Redfall’s creative director, Harvey Smith, that provides additional insight into

Microsoft’s strategy", Sony writes in its response to the CMA revised findings. "Like Call of Duty, Redfall is a first-person shooter game that features both single-player and cooperative multiplayer modes. In his interview with IGN, Mr. Smith explained that Redfall was originally planned to be released on all platforms, including PlayStation, but once Microsoft acquired Bethesda,there was a

“huge change". "‘No PlayStation 5. Now we’re gonna [sic] do Game Pass, Xbox, and PC.

https://wccftech.com/sony-cites-redfalls-harvey-smith-cancellation-ps5-cma/

apparently your reading comprehension is really lacking if you think that quote negates anything i said.. as a matter of fact, it supports what i said..

lol in 2021 the games that came out were ALREADY FINISHED and had ZERO Microsoft involvement!

lol You don't have any point. But I'm done trying to talk sense to you guys.

Believe what you want to believe and PLEASE continue to provide your subs to gamepass for MS. You're absolutely right. Everything is fine and nothing needs to be changed.

MS is on the right path your unwavering support for what they've given you is exactly what will guarantee the kinds of games you want to play in the future! 🫡

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@Archangel3371 said:

@above_average: Um, well yeah because they shouldn’t keep releasing poor quality games on their service. Again what part of I’m currently more invested in a lot of the third party stuff right now with a few good first party games like HiFi Rush. Reading comprehension, learn it.

You’re clearly bent out of shape over it that you can’t read straight. 😅

maybe English is his second language?.. 🤔 the reading comprehension seems to be virtually non-existent..

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@Pedro: Ain’t no meltdown like an above average meltdown. 😂

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@Pedro: Gamepass! Gamepass! Gamepass!

We don’t care about the quality of games, we are gamepass subscribers thick and thin!

Ra ra ra!

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#458 above_average
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@ghostofgolden said:

That's the same way it looks in here. The delusion and copizm is off the charts

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@Antwan3K: That is a good possibility. He does seem to make many basic errors. 🤔

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#460 above_average
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@Pedro: @Archangel3371:

I agree with you guys.

PLEASE continue to provide your subs to gamepass for MS. You're absolutely right. Everything is fine and nothing needs to be changed.

MS is on the right path your unwavering support for what they've given you is exactly what will guarantee the kinds of games you want to play in the future! 🫡

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#461 Pedro
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@above_average said:

@Pedro: @Archangel3371:

I agree with you guys.

PLEASE continue to provide your subs to gamepass for MS. You're absolutely right. Everything is fine and nothing needs to be changed.

MS is on the right path your unwavering support for what they've given you is exactly what will guarantee the kinds of games you want to play in the future! 🫡

And you say you don't give a ****.😂

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@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro: Gamepass! Gamepass! Gamepass!

We don’t care about the quality of games, we are gamepass subscribers thick and thin!

Ra ra ra!

It didn't take you long to bite. But, I have to toss you back in.😂

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#463 Archangel3371
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@Pedro: Damn. That’s quite the meltdown he has going on for someone who doesn’t care. Still has absolutely zero reading comprehension no matter how much you lay things out for him. 😅

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@Pedro: Doesn’t take you too many posts to get right back to shilling for Xbox and MS hey Pedro? 😂😂

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#465  Edited By above_average
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@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro: Gamepass! Gamepass! Gamepass!

We don’t care about the quality of games, we are gamepass subscribers thick and thin!

Ra ra ra!

What we need to do is support them.

If after THIS they still want to double down on their previous counter productive narratives about gamepass, we should just fall back and watch it all burn to the ground and watch them come running back confused and blind sided by something they'll say they never saw coming.

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#466  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@above_average: lol pentimate got mentioned as one of the best games of 2022 on gamespot. Gaming has many different forms and art styles, maybe you should stop hating.

Besides that, nothing wrong people enjoying redfall. That's the beauty of gamepass, nobody needs to spend $70 like you cows do, getting milked extra hard by Sony. Also alot of the issues with this game are bugs and small things, basically lack of pilish. Redfall is going to turn into the cyberpunk 2077, turn from unpolished, to goty, from 4 to a 10. Us lems support our games, and devs support games too. We're in it for the long term.

How's fivespoken doing? I heard it did so bad Sony shut down that studio permanently.

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#467 above_average
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@Pedro: I do care about gaming, more specifically console gaming. You really wouldn't understand.

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@above_average: lol pentimate got mentioned as one of the best games of 2022 on gamespot. Gaming has many different forms and art styles, maybe you should stop hating.

No hate bro. I'm sure Pentiment is awesome for you. Enjoy Redfall!

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@above_average said:

@Pedro: I do care about gaming, more specifically console gaming. You really wouldn't understand.

Odd, you think someone who teaches game development and develop games wouldn't understand or care about gaming?😂 They don't call you below average for nothing.

@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro: Doesn’t take you too many posts to get right back to shilling for Xbox and MS hey Pedro? 😂😂

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word shilling. You Sony alts need to up your mental faculties because you all embarrassing yourself which is depriving me and others of the opportunity.😎

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@Archangel3371 said:

@Pedro: Damn. That’s quite the meltdown he has going on for someone who doesn’t care. Still has absolutely zero reading comprehension no matter how much you lay things out for him. 😅

lol why are you sounding so triggered? I said I support you. What's wrong with your comprehension?

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#471  Edited By Fedor
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Why did the review thread turn into a meltdown about gamepass?

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@fedor said:

Why did the review thread turn into a meltdown about gamepass?

They ran out of Redfall hate juice and needed something "new".😎

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#473  Edited By Archangel3371
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@above_average: That wasn’t even a nice try to turn the tables, just an incredibly weak retort. Kind of sad actually. 😅

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#474  Edited By above_average
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@Pedro said:
@above_average said:

@Pedro: I do care about gaming, more specifically console gaming. You really wouldn't understand.

Odd, you think someone who teaches game development and develop games wouldn't understand or care about gaming?😂 They don't call you below average for nothing.

You hype....a service! All you talk about is...a service! Don't be mad at me for judging you based off everything you talk about on this board...

@Pedro said:

The fun thing about Gamepass is that scores don't matter (not like it did for me within the past 10 years). If the game scores great the cost is still the same and is part of your sub. If the game is trash, the cost is still the same and is part of your sub.🤷🏽‍♂️

☝️

Apparently, going by your own words, you don't care about anything but gamepass!

If it walks like a contradiction and talks like a contradiction then it's probably a lying idiot named Pedro.

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@Pedro said:
@above_average said:

@Pedro: I do care about gaming, more specifically console gaming. You really wouldn't understand.

Odd, you think someone who teaches game development and develop games wouldn't understand or care about gaming?😂 They don't call you below average for nothing.

@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro: Doesn’t take you too many posts to get right back to shilling for Xbox and MS hey Pedro? 😂😂

I don't think you understand the meaning of the word shilling. You Sony alts need to up your mental faculties because you all embarrassing yourself which is depriving me and others of the opportunity.😎

Lol Pedro if I had your track record of bad calls and shilling I absolutely wouldnt show my face here again, but here you are shameless as ever.

the only people with mental issues are the ones continually getting shit in their mouths and asking for more, I.e. xbox gamers.

and for the record I don’t believe you’re a dev or teach anything related to development for the sole reason that you constantly talk about only playing PS games if you get a discount on them. You’re a fakeboy MS shill

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Lol knew this game was gonna be shyt

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#477  Edited By above_average
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@randy_lahey:

Just imagine someone involved with game development saying this..

@Pedro said:

The fun thing aboutGamepass is that scores don't matter (not like it did for me within the past 10 years). If the game scores great the cost is still the same and is part of your sub. If the game is trash, the cost is still the same and is part of your sub.🤷🏽‍♂️

LMFAO, shit sounds like a walking contradiction. "bu but I care about gaming!"

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#478  Edited By Pedro
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@randy_lahey said:

Lol Pedro if I had your track record of bad calls and shilling I absolutely wouldnt show my face here again, but here you are shameless as ever.

the only people with mental issues are the ones continually getting shit in their mouths and asking for more, I.e. xbox gamers.

and for the record I don’t believe you’re a dev or teach anything related to development for the sole reason that you constantly talk about only playing PS games if you get a discount on them. You’re a fakeboy MS shill

You being upset is joy to watch. It must be rough arguing against facts and logic thus the reason you and other alt friends are always in perpetual meltdown.

The funny thing about facts and reality is that it doesn't require belief. You believing I don't teach or develop games doesn't change the fact that I do. I would continue to watch you all pay full price for PS games and get upset about my day job. 😂

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@Pedro: sure you do buddy. We all believe you! You don’t lie and gaslight with every second post or anything.

Keep on shilling, MS needs you since a lot of your ilk are dropping like flies lol

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@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro: sure you do buddy. We all believe you! You don’t lie and gaslight with every second post or anything.

Keep on shilling, MS needs you since a lot of your ilk are dropping like flies lol

You are correct, I don't lie or gaslight.

If you think subbing to Gamepass is shilling then you just confirmed that you don't know the meaning of the word. Which makes me right for the nth time.😞 It is so exhausting being right.

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@Pedro: You sure did cut these folks deep in their past lives. 😅

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#482  Edited By Antwan3K  Online
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@above_average said:
@Antwan3K said:
@above_average said:
@Antwan3K said:

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[...]

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lol in 2021 the games that came out were ALREADY FINISHED and had ZERO Microsoft involvement!

lol You don't have any point. But I'm done trying to talk sense to you guys.

Believe what you want to believe and PLEASE continue to provide your subs to gamepass for MS. You're absolutely right. Everything is fine and nothing needs to be changed.

MS is on the right path your unwavering support for what they've given you is exactly what will guarantee the kinds of games you want to play in the future! 🫡

damn, these alt meltdowns are pretty pathetic.. i'm not even sure what point these alts are trying to make at this juncture..

On Topic, nearly every Xbox fan in this thread has expressed extreme disappointment in RedFall's release and the mismanagement that's happening over at Xbox that resulted in the release of a game in this state..

the L has been delivered and it's being carried..

but the alt brigade is seemingly never satisfied.. for some reason you HAVE to find some way to bash Game Pass.. somehow this HAS to be Game Pass's fault.. but at the end of the day, RedFall is just one game in a service that has hundreds of games.. RedFall is just one Day One release in a year where there have been Day One releases every month.. somehow the fact that the paying customers of Game Pass are still enjoying the service despite this one dumpster fire of a game really bothers you and your clan..

bottomline: get over it..

you cows talk about Game Pass more than the people who are actually subscribed to it.. let that sink in, do some self-reflection, and move forward positively..

this should be a great day for cows in terms of System Wars.. but instead of simply taking your victory lap over RedFall, you're stuck (yet again) having a meltdown over Game Pass.. just let the hate go dude..

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#483  Edited By loudheadphones
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@loudheadphones: You can bet whatever you like, and in order to win that bet you’d have to show where ms changed redfall’s direction once they bought Bethesda…..because if you can’t do that, you’re speculating.

Same as you can bet whatever you like. First change when MS stepped in - cancel the PS5 version.

Look how Halo Infinite ended when it was designed for Gamepass - INCOMPLETE. Same as Redfall. Just to push content for Gamepass

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@loudheadphones: Games designed for Gamepass? What does that even mean? Have even played the referenced games?

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@Antwan3K: Well said. 👍

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@Antwan3K: I still think the game has a massive room for improvement. Arkane is going to keep working on the game and polish it up. So I'm not really worried about it's current state. Just wait a few months and it's going to be amazing.

The real question is why the game was released so unpolished. I mean, they shadow drop amazing games like pentimate and hi fi rush, but completely blotch this AAA game release.

The project management issues are very messed up.

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@blaznwiipspman1: then they should have delayed it until it was amazing before releasing it now. Super simple.

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#489  Edited By blaznwiipspman1
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@Pedro: whoever is project managing these games, or the scrum master or whoever else needs to get their ass fired. But I'm guessing the executive and higher ups were also pushing for dumb un necessary features on an unreasonable time line.

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@randy_lahey said:

@Pedro: Gamepass! Gamepass! Gamepass!

We don’t care about the quality of games, we are gamepass subscribers thick and thin!

Ra ra ra!

Do you see no value in a service like gamepass, switch online, or ps+ premium?

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Pedro: whoever is project managing these games, or the scrum master or whoever else needs to get their ass fired. But I'm guessing the executive and higher ups were also pushing for dumb un necessary features on an unreasonable time line.

yeah, it seems that Bethesda is still basically operating as their own entity.. I'd imagine that would be the case for Activision as well if they are acquired.. that concept is fine when they were a 3rd party making multiplats but now that they are Xbox 1st party, there needs to be intervention on the part of Microsoft/Xbox when decisions like these are made because they are harming the Xbox brand when crap like this is shoved out the door..

Ultimately, the buck stops with Phil Spencer.. he needs to take a stronger position on these studios and have the courage to delay these games regardless of the PR backlash..

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@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Pedro: whoever is project managing these games, or the scrum master or whoever else needs to get their ass fired. But I'm guessing the executive and higher ups were also pushing for dumb un necessary features on an unreasonable time line.

If only it was as easy as blaming one person.

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You may hate it but Redfall is peak Microsoft performance.

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I've followed noting about this game. Never had interest. I do happen to think Arkane is pretty talented, but it seems as though this game suffers from all of the modern day disippointments in gaming.

Gamepass people get the advantage of playing it broken first.... I would imagine more sensible gamers will wait, if they were really hoping to play this game finished. Not to mention there is no need tk spend premium dollar on it.

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@Pedro said:
@blaznwiipspman1 said:

@Pedro: whoever is project managing these games, or the scrum master or whoever else needs to get their ass fired. But I'm guessing the executive and higher ups were also pushing for dumb un necessary features on an unreasonable time line.

If only it was as easy as blaming one person.

The buck stops with Spencer - but I wouldn’t expect you to understand how management works

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#496  Edited By Randy_Lahey
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@Pedro said:

@loudheadphones: Games designed for Gamepass? What does that even mean? Have even played the referenced games?

Bu Bu but what do you mean???

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@randy_lahey:

1. You don't understand management because you are still using SW logic.😂

2. That didn't answer the question but I know you think it does.😌

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Dang. A 4? Wow, that is worse than most of what we expected. Yikes.

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#499 sealionact
Member since 2014 • 10043 Posts

@loudheadphones: Hardly the same when I didn’t make claims that I couldn’t back up. You claimed Redfall was designed for gamepass, then you shifted to changed by ms….you have nothing to suggest either of those claims are true.

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#500 ermacness
Member since 2005 • 10956 Posts

@zaryia said:
@ermacness said:
@zaryia said:

lol who hyped this? what a reach from cows

Redfall was hyped to the heavens and back

Gas lighting. Hush liar.

And this is what damage control looks like. You can’t “hush” the truth.

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