Redfall reviews leak, official review embargo set to lift today- GameSpot review 4/10

Wow that is kind of shocking, what a fall from greatness for arkham:/

Still quite happy about my gamepass subscription and not planning to cancel it any time soon. But the dream about playing AAA games day one on it, seems more and more unrealistic!

Only game I truly enjoyed from MS was halo 5 and Gears of war 4-5. Otherwise it’s been a ton of misses…

Gas lighting. Hush liar.

Unfinished, Uninspired, soulless

Welcome to Gamepass!

yet, Microsoft still had the most highest rated games in 2021 according to Metacritic.. the narrative simply doesn't match the reality..

that said, since then, Microsoft has not been leading the way with AAA first party.. they've been relying on 3rd party Day One titles for Game Pass and a few top rated A-AA games from 1st party.. 2023 is when Xbox was supposed to start back leading the way in AAA and RedFall simply aint it.. we'll have to see how Starfield turns out but Xbox has given credibility to the narrative that they can't deliver banger AAAs outside of Forza at this point.. that's a fair argument and that's Microsoft's fault..

but until it can be shown that Microsoft has consistently released broken 4/10 titles into Game Pass, this narrative is just fanboy nonsense.. they had the most highest rated games in 2021, released quality A-AA games in 2022 and the beginning of 2023, and then dropped the ball completely with RedFall..

again, RedFall is unacceptable.. full stop.. but the alt brigade (along with their 3rd generation alt leader) can't just leave it there.. they HAVE to find some way to tie this back to Game Pass.. 🙄

Meanwhile, new games to play on the BS jive. ;o

Poo cows, BS Jive has no games. lol :P

Jesus Christ, where did the majority those 2021 games actually come from?

They were games that MS had ZERO involvement with from Bethesda games that were already fkn complete!

You slapping "Microsoft" on top of those games doesn't change anything I said. NONE of those games from Betheda in 2021 were created under MS direction.

The only games you can actually give credit to MS for in 2021 are Forza Horizon (which has actually managed to maintian it's quality) and Halo Infinite which despite scoring well....dun dun dun...released UNFINISHED, LACKING CONTENT AND EARLY ACCESS & currently on life support!

Ironically Redfall was the only Bethesda/Arkane title MS had the ability to influence and then you see the ALWAYS ONLINE, microtransations, buggy, unfinished, no content Gamepass model trend resurface...so go ahead & credit MS with that!

@Antwan3K: You’re gonna keep using that MC 2021 shield, so we should probably address is. What games propped up the Xbox average? Flight Sim, FH5 and Halo Infinite campaign. Others were Deathloop (not even on Xbox at the time) and Psychonauts 2 (multiplat).This went up against Ghost of Tsushima, R&C, Returnal and the reason for dragging down the PS average, Destruction All-Stars.

If you want to keep using this “award,” go ahead. But I bet you can’t do it with a straight face

And below average IQ is still having a metldown.😂

Anyway, I played about 1.5 hrs just a moment ago and I see what they meant by being inspired by Far Cry 5(I think that was the one). The AI is still too basic but they hit hard when in groups so🤔. The world exploration is on point so far. I may actually consider playing the game all the way through. The first impressions was not good but I am enjoying what I have played beyond the first moments of the game.

Now let the raging continue.😎

@ghostofgolden said:

Game Pass is gonna have to rebrand if this kinda stuff keeps happening. This headline is brutal

Holy crap that headline is hilarious!

I mean, didn't you see someone else's Opinion on the game scored it 4/10? How could you even think about enjoying what you played thus far? lol :P

What Redfall has done, in my opinion, is really damaged the XBox brand.

I get it - sometimes games just have to be released - but this game is a trainwreck. Not only is the design lackluster and out of date, but it's a fundamentally broken game. It's broken - it should not have been released in this state. It was supposed to herald the "return of Xbox 1st party games", and start the path back to the 360 days. Instead, it's an embarrassing dumpster fire.

Xbox fans have a right to be mad.

Sony fans are right to mock XBox and MS.

If Starfield is not AAA, and there aren't more near-release games, the XSX will be the Xbox One all over again; and I won't fault long term Xbox fans from abandoning the platform.

Modern gaming

@SecretPolice said:

I mean, didn't you see someone else's Opinion on the game scored it 4/10? How could you even think about enjoying what you played thus far? lol :P

Shoot me for playing the game. 😂 Who knows, as I continue to play my view may change to more positive or negative. It is gaming after all, experiences tend to fluctuate the longer you play a game.

BrokenGamez is a PS fanboy but he's probably not wrong.

@mysticaldonut: The game isn't broken. It is plays it unrefined, unpolished and feels incomplete(especially at the start) but not broken.

Can't believe I am defending GamePass but here I go: GamePass doesn't have to be the cause of these shitty games, it's Microsoft not overseeing anything or stepping in when needed. Redfall needed to be cancelled years ago. Whoever greenlit it, is at fault. Whoever greenlit the delay is at fault. Whoever greenlit the release of such garbage is at fault.

It's true that Sony has the better strategy. I'd rather pay $/€70 for an awesome AAA-game than spend $500 to play some $20 indie game. GamePass shouldn't be a dumping ground for mediocre games. Microsoft is literally going; "Eh, chuck it on the pile."

Literally everything is riding on Starfield now and that game is still running on the Creation Engine that brought us Fallout 76. There's a reason why Starfield is delayed multiple times internally and officially and among the grapevines "the next Cyberpunk" was floating. If I were a xbox fan/enthousiast/lemming, I'd sell my xbox now while it still has some value left.

@Pedro: he's talking about who is responsible for the overall failure of Redfall, not that it is completely broken and unplayable.

Yeah, exactly this.

I knew something was off about GamePass back when Back 4 Blood suddenly went to the service and it got bad reviews. It's like any game that a company knows is not gonna sell well is gonna be thrown at GP.

@mysticaldonut: I didn't watch he video and just realize you were stating his name..😂

Microsoft's "show enders" the past few E3's (or whatever you want to call them) have been Anthem, Cyberpunk, Redfall, and the announcement that Kojima is making a game for them. Good grief.

Gamepass is still pretty cool, but Microsoft needs to stop putting their 1st party games on there Day1. It's actually (somehow) ruining the service.

Again, shame on any of us who thought Phil Spencer or anyone at Microsoft could turn Xbox around from the Kinect days. I was convinced they were focusing on putting out quality games to rival Sony's with all the studio acquisitions they were doing, but I was completely wrong.

@Pedro said:

@SecretPolice said:

I mean, didn't you see someone else's Opinion on the game scored it 4/10? How could you even think about enjoying what you played thus far? lol :P

Shoot me for playing the game. 😂 Who knows, as I continue to play my view may change to more positive or negative. It is gaming after all, experiences tend to fluctuate the longer you play a game.

Well, should you finish the game and think it's a masterpiece you won't be the only one with that Opinion. lol :P

https://www.gamespot.com/articles/review-roundup-for-redfall/1100-6513752/

We Got This Covered -- 4.5/5

"With rich, beautiful open worlds, a multitude of weapons, and a wide variety of enemies to square off against, Redfall amazes. Players won't regret staking their claim on Arkane's latest masterpiece." -- Ash Martinez [Full review]

@above_average: Well like I said people will eventually leave if they keep releasing all their games in such a state. Right now I’m currently still subscribed largely because there’s plenty of good third party stuff on the service. There is some good first party stuff available as well. Some people here would have believe that since the games are hitting Game Pass that Microsoft has no incentive to put out a quality game and I just don’t think that’s true.

smh..well keep on paying them, but here are some wise words for you to consider...

@Archangel3371: When you try to have a conversation with an idiot, the only outcome is idiocy.😂

Now I wait for the plagiarism and requoting from said person or the alts.😎

@above_average: You didn’t comprehend a word I said there did you? 😅

MS just keeps giving great product to their fanboys, Xbox gamers have low standards i am sure its the greatest game on planet earth

@loudheadphones: You can bet whatever you like, and in order to win that bet you’d have to show where ms changed redfall’s direction once they bought Bethesda…..because if you can’t do that, you’re speculating.

Now you're responding like this?

No problem. I'm not the one who personifies the definition of insanity. If there is anyone who lacks comprehension it's you xboys who continue to pay a company for something they have yet to deliver to you.

Enjoy your sunken place.

Sony Cites Redfall’s Harvey Smith After Cancellation of PS5 Version in Its Response to the CMA

https://wccftech.com/sony-cites-redfalls-harvey-smith-cancellation-ps5-cma/

For the xboys pretending that MS didn't have any influence in Redfall development..

When speaking on the platforms the game would be targeting, he literally list's GAMEPASS first as their new direction for the game.

Why was "gamepass" even mentioned as a platform? Stay sleep xboys, It appears you haven't suffered enough from your quality destructive arguments, so go ahead and keep it going..

I see the usual moron lems in here still trying to downplay this failure. And the clown car driver is apparently wanting to finish the game and that it’s not that bad lol. You can’t make this shit up. Imagine forcing yourself to play thru a 4/10 game just because MS made it.

@above_average: lmao 🤡...did you forget pentimate and hifi rush, only released a few months ago. Both metacritic of 90 and both gamepass titles. How is ps5 doing BTW? How's that drought taste??

@above_average: What part of, “I’m still a current subscriber because of there being mostly third party games on the service that I want to play being on there” don’t you understand? There have been some first party games that I also like as well. You keep trying to imply that I’m currently subscribed just because I’m hoping for good stuff in the future. While I naturally hope their first party stuff in the future is good that isn’t why I’m still subscribed. This isn’t some sort of “sunken cost” fallacy for me. This is purely a rental service and I’m paying for the here and now value. As soon as I feel that I’m not getting value for the cost I’ll stop subscribing. It’s just that simple.

nothing you said changes the fact that Xbox has released critically acclaimed titles (the most highest rated games of any publisher in 2021) directly into Game Pass.. your false narrative is false..

and RedFall was in development way before Bethesda was bought by Microsoft.. heck, the game was in development for PS5.. so please spare us your fanboy BS.. the game flopped epically.. no argument there.. but you and the rest of the alt squad's obsession with blaming everything including global warming on Game Pass is nonsense..

Psssht, yeah right dude.

Like anyone pays a few bucks a month for The Walking Dead series...

...or Signallis, or Minecraft...

...or Wasteland 2 or 3...

...or A Plague Tale...

...or The Ascent...

...or Before We Leave...

...or...you get the idea.

*obviously sarcasm 😉😊

If one game is a dud, all of Gamepass is a dud. That is the level of stupid from these alts.😂

Yes, because Pentiment was a multi million dollar AAA quality game that you bought your 12Tflop Xbox Series X in order to play...

🤡

There's only so much cap you can use when making your bottom of the barrel gamepass defense arguments.

glad to hear you're enjoying it in some capacity.. gonna wait for the 60 fps update so hopefully the bugs have been squashed by then..

@Pedro: Indeed. Such a dumb ass take it is.

Sony Cites Redfall’s Harvey Smith After Cancellation of PS5 Version in Its Response to the CMA

https://wccftech.com/sony-cites-redfalls-harvey-smith-cancellation-ps5-cma/

I will probably do the same. In the meantime, I will boot up Jedi Survivor since there is a console patch coming out or already released today.

Edit: The new UI for the Series is nice. I didn't see what the hoopla was about until I saw it in person.

@mrbojangles25: For sure. Heaven forbid that someone finds a bunch of other games to play and enjoy.

yep, agreed.. quality titles are needed if Microsoft want to grow the reputation of brand, push Game Pass subs across all platforms, sell units, and sell consoles..

they can't depend on 3rd party Day Ones and A-AA 1st party titles like they did in 2022.. for the longterm, there has to be consistent quality AAA 1st party offerings if they want gamers to take Xbox seriously..

RedFall is a disaster.. and hopefully RedFall is also a wake-up call that delays are not a bad thing.. delay these games until they are ready..

The games he is enjoying, just like may of the games on PS Now, weren't created from that service.

It's your stupidity that's not recognizing the fact that "gamepass" didn't give you anything. Other studios that made games who happened to allow their games to be on Gamepass is.

Gamepass is a dud for the fact that the only thing gamepass was hyped to do that was better than PS Now is delivering 1st party exclusive day and date...and you got REDFALL!

Both of you fools are admitting that the very thing you morons hyped Gamepass for all these years was ultimately pointless.

Are you saying Gamepass isn't just for Redfall?😉

@above_average: My desire for Game Pass is to have a bunch of games to play and enjoy for a monthly fee. I’m currently getting that very thing. Seeing clowns like you get all bent out of shape over that is just a bonus. 😅

I think it is amusing that you actually think you have a point.🤭

apparently your reading comprehension is really lacking if you think that quote negates anything i said.. as a matter of fact, it supports what i said..

You ironically also said you don't believe MS only want to rely on these unfinished, early access, no content indie level games for their 1st party content on the service.

lol I'm not bent out of shape, just amazing at your gullibility. I don't give AF about you subbing to the service, I was just addressing your delusion.

Again, Enjoy your sunken place.