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So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLRR360DD
According to the article, the Wii U uses 1GB of RAM and it only has 2GB of RAM. The 720 will also use a set amount of RAM for their OS, probably in the same area (between 512mb to 2GB). I don't understand the "LOL" because even the PS360 generation consoles has dedicated RAM set aside for the console OS.
Also, it seems to me you haven't heard of Eyetoy if you think Sony has a Kinect Rip-off. It's a dead give away you are just troll posting I suppose. *yawn*
Are you an idiot? How is this ownage on the cows? 1GB of RAM is miniscule for an OS. Especially one that is supposed to last for 5-8 years on average. They'll make numerous updates to the OS over time. Using less than 1GB would be a huge mistake on their part. They need to think about the future an any OS additions they might add over the years.If that's true that the OS uses 1Gb RAM...well, cows just lost the "but Windows uses so much of your hardware" excuse.Â
cfisher2833
That's a gig more than I thought they would have.
I was figuring about 2 gigs for the OS and whatnot, 6 gigs shared for the games. That's plenty.
For 1080p you only really need 2 gigs for GPU and I can't think of a single PC game that takes more than 3 gigs of ram when it's running on a 64 bit machine. Even the big ones like Shogun 2, ArmA 3, Planetside 2.
Either way, the RAM won't be what limits the PS4 any time soon.
Are you an idiot? How is this ownage on the cows? 1GB of RAM is miniscule for an OS. Especially one that is supposed to last for 5-8 years on average. They'll make numerous updates to the OS over time. Using less than 1GB would be a huge mistake on their part. They need to think about the future an any OS additions they might add over the years. With such amount of ram they have more space to menoover then in with PS3, i mean if Crysis 3 runs on 256MB of this gen consoles OS which is not memoery demending. should be easy, also Android can do a lot in background with 1GB of ram[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]
If that's true that the OS uses 1Gb RAM...well, cows just lost the "but Windows uses so much of your hardware" excuse.Â
I_can_haz
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"]Are you an idiot? How is this ownage on the cows? 1GB of RAM is miniscule for an OS. Especially one that is supposed to last for 5-8 years on average. They'll make numerous updates to the OS over time. Using less than 1GB would be a huge mistake on their part. They need to think about the future an any OS additions they might add over the years. With such amount of ram they have more space to menoover then in with PS3, i mean if Crysis 3 runs on 256MB of this gen consoles OS which is not memoery demending. should be easy, also Android can do a lot in background with 1GB of ramVery true but I'm not judging RAM based on nowadays features, I'm basing it on future unseen additions to the OS. Who knows what the next big thing will be in entertainment that Sony will want to incorporate into PS4's OS :P. It's always best to have way more RAM than you will ever need IMO and I think Sony thinks the same way.[QUOTE="cfisher2833"]
If that's true that the OS uses 1Gb RAM...well, cows just lost the "but Windows uses so much of your hardware" excuse.Â
ShadowriverUB
[QUOTE="I_can_haz"][QUOTE="tagyhag"]So we do say "Dat 7gb GGDR5" from now on?tagyhagNot really. It's still 8GB of GDDR5. My laptop has 8GB of RAM with maybe 1GB allocated to Windows 7 and background programs but I don't list the specs as 7GB of RAM. :cool: No reason to stop saying 8GB GDDR5 based on that.7 is a lucky number though. 8 was Hitler's favorite number.:cool: Awwww yea.
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They however never state how much memory will be allocated for streaming/recording. So if background tasks and OS is allocating 1gb I would think along with the other features 2-3gb might be typical usage with all features +OS. So 5-6 gb will be for the game cache and video.That's a gig more than I thought they would have.
I was figuring about 2 gigs for the OS and whatnot, 6 gigs shared for the games. That's plenty.
For 1080p you only really need 2 gigs for GPU and I can't think of a single PC game that takes more than 3 gigs of ram when it's running on a 64 bit machine. Even the big ones like Shogun 2, ArmA 3, Planetside 2.
Either way, the RAM won't be what limits the PS4 any time soon.
Wasdie
Unneeded IMO with 7gigs the RAM will never be bottle-necked but the CPU, GPU can still be and will be. IMO they just put 8 gigs because M$ said they were, but MS is using windows 8 in their OP system which is a RAM hog. 7 gigs is overkill IMO for the CPU and GPU they're using I'll be surprised if 1 game net Gen uses all that RAM even once.
Unneeded IMO with 7gigs the RAM will never be bottle-necked but the CPU, GPU can still be and will be. IMO they just put 8 gigs because M$ said they were, but MS is using windows 8 in their OP system which is a RAM hog. 7 gigs is overkill IMO for the CPU and GPU they're using I'll be surprised if 1 game net Gen uses all that RAM even once.
Shielder7
its not an overkill, more like a save future?
They however never state how much memory will be allocated for streaming/recording. So if background tasks and OS is allocating 1gb I would think along with the other features 2-3gb might be typical usage with all features +OS. So 5-6 gb will be for the game cache and video. Yeah it makes me wonder how they fit that in 1GB, but you forgetting about hard hard drive which can be also used in this process, for example 1 minute is recorded, it dumps it to hard drive and clear RAM for next freames, this way it won't use hard drive all the time when games needs it, i bet there other ways to solve this out and i bet they won't waste RAM for it;] Streaming won't take much as once encoded frames are send they are useless on console and can be thrown away.[QUOTE="Wasdie"]
That's a gig more than I thought they would have.
I was figuring about 2 gigs for the OS and whatnot, 6 gigs shared for the games. That's plenty.
For 1080p you only really need 2 gigs for GPU and I can't think of a single PC game that takes more than 3 gigs of ram when it's running on a 64 bit machine. Even the big ones like Shogun 2, ArmA 3, Planetside 2.
Either way, the RAM won't be what limits the PS4 any time soon.
04dcarraher
[QUOTE="ShadowriverUB"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] They however never state how much memory will be allocated for streaming/recording. So if background tasks and OS is allocating 1gb I would think along with the other features 2-3gb might be typical usage with all features +OS. So 5-6 gb will be for the game cache and video.clyde46Yeah it makes me wonder how they fit that in 1GB, but you forgetting about hard hard drive which can be also used in this process, for example 1 minute is recorded, it dumps it to hard drive and clear RAM for next freames, this way it won't use hard drive all the time when games needs it, i bet there other ways to solve this out and i bet they won't waste RAM for it;] Streaming won't take much as once encoded frames are send they are useless on console and can be thrown away. The trouble is, when recording video you are saturating the I/O on the hard drive. Thats why im saying about very specific time period, recording part on RAM and dump it every time some time, how much 1 min of more commpressed 1080p will take? i bet not more then 100MB. Either way they i bet they solved this problem somehow, as they adrvitise recording and now they saying there server only 1GB of RAM, i bet they don't do that wholy in RAM or else other system features don't take as much, maybe they might also record only gameplay without menus when all game resources are already loaded to RAM.
lol ps4daily...the same guys that made the rumor of the ps4 CPU running over 2.0ghz and the same guys that said PS3 RSX can do 400 Gigaflops lol,they made up sh!t out thin air.
Funny thing people were saying the games shown were only using 1.5GB. Yet they could have used 3GB and they didn't.
So that just goes to show you. All that extra RAM is wasted on weak HW.
Funny thing people were saying the games shown were only using 1.5GB. Yet they could have used 3GB and they didn't.
So that just goes to show you. All that extra RAM is wasted on weak HW.
Truth_Hurts_U
They were using it because were developed on the garbage PC hardware, with 680GTX that has only 1.5GB VRAM
Now that they have finilized kits and 8GB as final spec to use they can go all out
PC lol
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The PS4 is using PC architecture. Loosey, are you going senile? clyde46
No it is not, PC does not have anything similar to unified VRAM for all purposes
Imagine that PS4 with the unified VRAM, both saves bandwith/cycles when PC needs to move textures around different ram pools AND at the same time uses extremly fast VRAM for main ram, which PC does not have either
[QUOTE="loosingENDS"][QUOTE="Truth_Hurts_U"]
Funny thing people were saying the games shown were only using 1.5GB. Yet they could have used 3GB and they didn't.
So that just goes to show you. All that extra RAM is wasted on weak HW.
clyde46
They were using it because were developed on the garbage PC hardware, with 680GTX that has only 1.5GB VRAM
Now that they have finilized kits and 8GB as final spec to use they can go all out
PC lol
The GTX680 is available with 2GB and 4GB. Try again Loosey. Then you have the 4gb GTX 670, 6gb Titan and 6gb 7970's. Also PS4 gpu can never use more then 4gb for the gpu since its not strong enough make use of the amount of memory to the fullest potential.No one gives a shit in 3...2...1.... Most of you have no idea what RAM does for gaming in 3....2....1 Some of you probably think there's an actual live mini Ram in your ps3 on a treadmill in 3....2....1SuddenlySuddenSince you say most don't know I will post this which comes from cryteks lead graphics programmer.
Mooooo !! Ill be a cow this gen it seems !! PS4 seems solid to me and i cant wait to learn more about the system.. When developers praising it its a very good sign. periodAzatiS
PC people think that anyone cares if PC has more raw power, when they dont have a single game like Deep Down or Agnis to use it
Plus missing all exlusive JRPGs that are my top priority, while PS4 already got Witcher 3 and the only proper Diablo 3 version (offline, direct hero control)
PC gaming is for laughs
Funny fact: xbox 360 Witcher 2 version has like 1000x more next gen lighting than PC version
LOL, PC, LOL LOL
Let's hope that $ony reserve enough ram for the inevitable Durango features that they try and add with a last ditch attempt to stay relevant :?
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
SolidTy
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Mooooo !! Ill be a cow this gen it seems !! PS4 seems solid to me and i cant wait to learn more about the system.. When developers praising it its a very good sign. periodloosingENDS
PC people think that anyone cares if PC has more raw power, when they dont have a single game like Deep Down or Agnis to use it
Plus missing all exlusive JRPGs that are my top priority, while PS4 already got Witcher 3 and the only proper Diablo 3 version (offline, direct hero control)
PC gaming is for laughs
Funny fact: xbox 360 Witcher 2 version has like 1000x more next gen lighting than PC version
LOL, PC, LOL LOL
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Yet Witcher 2 looks best on PC.
Also what is you're agenda here ?Â
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
Blazerdt47
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
That's what I was just attempting to explain to the alt fanboy a second ago.
I'm sure the RAM allocation will be in the same neighborhood, but I'm not worried about ituntil I know more about the machine itself.
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[QUOTE="AzatiS"]Mooooo !! Ill be a cow this gen it seems !! PS4 seems solid to me and i cant wait to learn more about the system.. When developers praising it its a very good sign. periodBebi_vegeta
PC people think that anyone cares if PC has more raw power, when they dont have a single game like Deep Down or Agnis to use it
Plus missing all exlusive JRPGs that are my top priority, while PS4 already got Witcher 3 and the only proper Diablo 3 version (offline, direct hero control)
PC gaming is for laughs
Funny fact: xbox 360 Witcher 2 version has like 1000x more next gen lighting than PC version
LOL, PC, LOL LOL
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Yet Witcher 2 looks best on PC.
If you like knights with armor that glows like a lamp at night and have no next gen proper lighting and shadows, sure
If you like next gen realistic lighting, with actual light source, proper shadows and no glow/bloom, it is only found on xbox 360 version
[QUOTE="RR360DD"]So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLSolidTy
According to the article, the Wii U uses 1GB of RAM and it only has 2GB of RAM. The 720 will also use a set amount of RAM for their OS, probably in the same area (between 512mb to 1GB). I don't understand the "LOL" because even the PS360 generation consoles has dedicated RAM set aside for the console OS.
Also, it seems to me you haven't heard of Eyetoy.
LOL Nintendo, of course their OS is bloated to hell. And yeah, I have heard of that webcam.
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
Blazerdt47
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
Serious question, did you just pull that out of your ass?.
Were are people getting all these details from about a console with no official acknowledgment as of yet.
[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
SolidTy
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
That's what I was just attempting to explain to the alt fanboy a second ago.
I'm sure the RAM allocation will be in the same neighborhood, but I'm not worried about ituntil I know more about the machine itself.
I'm an alt? You really are an idiot :lol:So thats 1GB dedicated to the Sony OS / Sony Kinect rip-off LOLRR360DD
didnt ms rip off eyetoy first, or am I missing something here:?
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
SolidTy
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
That's what I was just attempting to explain to the alt fanboy a second ago.
I'm sure the RAM allocation will be in the same neighborhood, but I'm not worried about ituntil I know more about the machine itself.
Man Ty, doesn't it feel odd when these troll accounts from back in the day some how become credible in the eyes of these new kids on the block of SW? Man it's like when someone tried to emulate that PS3 threadmill thread with the shitty WiiU. :(Â
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[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
Snugenz
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
Serious question, did you just pull that out of your ass?.
Were are people getting all these details from about a console with no official acknowledgment as of yet.
People seem to forget the 360 launched with an OS footprint on 32MB compared to the PS3s 120MB[QUOTE="loosingENDS"]
[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]
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Yet Witcher 2 looks best on PC.
Bebi_vegeta
If you like knights with armor that glows like a lamp at night and have no next gen proper lighting and shadows, sure
If you like next gen realistic lighting, with actual light source, proper shadows and no glow/bloom, it is only found on xbox 360 version
What are you talking about ? X360 has lower setting plenty of other stuff.
There's nothing next gen about X360, it doesn't even have a actual sun in the Witcher 2.
xbox 360 version has next gen lighting, PC has a bloom instead of that
Check it out, it may destroy the little dream world PC gamers live in, but is a fact
Digital Foundry has all the pics to prove it
[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
[QUOTE="SolidTy"]
Speculation by fanboys said devs had a lower allocation, good to hear I suppose. That's what the Wii U OS is using, about 1GB of RAM. I'm sure the 720 will use about the same.
Looking forward to seeing more games.
Snugenz
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
Serious question, did you just pull that out of your ass?.
Were are people getting all these details from about a console with no official acknowledgment as of yet.
Dude, are you seriously attacking my comment?
Where have you been? From all the rumors about the next gen systems dedicated RAM for the OS, PS4 was rumored to use 512mb (when it had 4GB GDDR5) now it's doubled, and the X720 was rumored from quite a few sources that the OS would take 3GB of RAM, majority because of Kinect.
Before you start attacking me, you should be clear of what my post assumed. I said "As far as I know". I didn't state it as fact like you assumed I did.
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[QUOTE="Blazerdt47"]
As far as I know, the X720 will be using more RAM for it's OS because of Kinect.
Blazerdt47
Serious question, did you just pull that out of your ass?.
Were are people getting all these details from about a console with no official acknowledgment as of yet.
Dude, are you seriously attacking my comment?
Where have you been? From all the rumors about the next gen systems dedicated RAM for the OS, PS4 was rumored to use 512mb (when it had 4GB GDDR5) now it's doubled, and the X720 was rumored from quite a few sources that the OS would take 3GB of RAM, majority because of Kinect.
Before you start attacking me, you should be clear of what my post assumed. I said "As far as I know". I didn't state it as fact like you assumed I did.
It wasn't an attack, more of an outburst of astonishment at people "knowing" so much about something that we have little to no solid information on at this point.
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