Sony has failed in Japan to an even greater degree than Microsoft

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#51 GazzaB
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[QUOTE="legalize3"]

lets see what happens when MGS4 and FF gets released

i thought so.

The Japanese arent the biggest fans of MGS4. Only FF will sell the PS3's

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#52 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="ngoniko"]

dude your thread failed, just live with it.

Ninja-Vox

Explain the point i was making, and then explain how this was debunked then. I dare you to even try.

:|

Still waiting, buddy....

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#53 Ninja-Vox
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sorry to bust your bubble, but those AAA games didnt sale the system in japan. even though i love gears of war and rainbow six for the 360. those games with a AAA title didnt do nothing in japan. alfy13

That's exactly the point i just made. Thank you. :|

Do you actually read anything before hitting reply? Seriously?

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#54 ngoniko
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[QUOTE="ngoniko"]

This is Wii release date in Japan

http://wii.ign.com/index/release.html?constraint.eq.game.locale=ja

look at June

its all about software

Ninja-Vox

Explain to me why the 360 is failing in Japan then, when it has more AAA games than the PS3 and the Wii, and also has Blue Dragon; arguably the best JRPG on current consoles.

:|

It's nothing to do with software, sadly. It's due to price, marketing and PR. The PS3 isn't selling. Simple as that.

1. xbox left a bad taste in their mouth

2. shooters = xbox

3. bluedragon is not going to make them think that 360 is a rpg system or variety.

4. Good games is all about preference, GEARS of wars is good for us, but not good enough for them.

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[QUOTE="alfy13"]i am kind of lost in your logic. a system with lots of game is failing harder then the system that has fewer games . so who is really failing here?Ninja-Vox

I'm aware that you're a fanboy, so its probably futile responding. I think the logic here is about as easy as it gets. I mean look at the pretty graph.

Sony's next-gen offering has been a colossal failure in Japan when compared to Nintendo's. That's it. I'm asking what people think about this, and how it could be fixed.

What logic are you lost in, exactly?

The sad part is. No one expected the Xbox or the 360 to clean up in the japanese market. Whats even worse is that the PS3 is selling like **** in its own hometown of Japan. Thats sad...... :shock:

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#56 ni6htmare01
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Wii target different people than PS3 and 360. Alot of people that I know who bought a Wii, mainly are gifts for their Kids. All they know is cheap and look fun. Do they know what kind of games Wii, PS3 or 360 has? No they dont or they will care.
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#57 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]i am kind of lost in your logic. a system with lots of game is failing harder then the system that has fewer games . so who is really failing here?Magical_Zebra

I'm aware that you're a fanboy, so its probably futile responding. I think the logic here is about as easy as it gets. I mean look at the pretty graph.

Sony's next-gen offering has been a colossal failure in Japan when compared to Nintendo's. That's it. I'm asking what people think about this, and how it could be fixed.

What logic are you lost in, exactly?

The sad part is. No one expected the Xbox or the 360 to clean up in the japanese market. Whats even worse is that the PS3 is selling like **** in itrs own hometown of Japan. Thats sad...... :shock:

That's exactly my point. I wasn't expecting so many people to completely miss the point. Well, two people... but they still seem lost in what is essentially an incredibly simple thread.

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#58 alfy13
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[QUOTE="alfy13"] sorry to bust your bubble, but those AAA games didnt sale the system in japan. even though i love gears of war and rainbow six for the 360. those games with a AAA title didnt do nothing in japan. Ninja-Vox

That's exactly the point i just made. Thank you. :|

Do you actually read anything before hitting reply? Seriously?

np , i just like self owing my self. but to answer your question. no i do not find the price being the reason why the 360 and ps3 is failing. its because they both have no games that JA wants on it atm. once both have good games out for their systems taht JA likes y ou will see a sales boost. but that is my opinion.
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#59 legalize3
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[QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]i am kind of lost in your logic. a system with lots of game is failing harder then the system that has fewer games . so who is really failing here?Ninja-Vox

I'm aware that you're a fanboy, so its probably futile responding. I think the logic here is about as easy as it gets. I mean look at the pretty graph.

Sony's next-gen offering has been a colossal failure in Japan when compared to Nintendo's. That's it. I'm asking what people think about this, and how it could be fixed.

What logic are you lost in, exactly?

The sad part is. No one expected the Xbox or the 360 to clean up in the japanese market. Whats even worse is that the PS3 is selling like **** in itrs own hometown of Japan. Thats sad...... :shock:

That's exactly my point. I wasn't expecting so many people to completely miss the point. Well, two people... but they still seem lost in what is essentially an incredibly simple thread.

its selling good without games they like

why buy a ps3 if it does not have games you like doesnt make sense to me and teh fact that there will be a pricecut when games will be released i like

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#60 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

alfy13

this quote that i highlighted is why your logic is faulty. if you really think ps3 will continue to sell at the rate it is now even though games that JA likes FFXI, WKS, DMC etc willn to boost sales then i do not have anything else to say to you. even MS will have games thatwill boost 360 sales in japan. but

for a system that has what like 2 games that JA likes sold close toa Million where a system that been out a year with lots of game only sold 370k something is fishy do you not think?

but yes Wii is destorying both the ps3 and 360 on sales wise in japan.

what you are saying are speculations on how the ps3 will have a massive sales boost when those games are released. how can you be certain? plus he never bashed any of the 3 consoles. you just started to attack him cause of your fanboy googles. ninja iused the ps3 and wii sales record in japan to show the rate of the ps3 to catch up on sales to the wii on the current state. it doesnt mean this will be constant and sales wont change for better or worst for the ps3 in the future.

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[QUOTE="alfy13"] sorry to bust your bubble, but those AAA games didnt sale the system in japan. even though i love gears of war and rainbow six for the 360. those games with a AAA title didnt do nothing in japan. Ninja-Vox

That's exactly the point i just made. Thank you. :|

Do you actually read anything before hitting reply? Seriously?

your point fails because fps are not popular in japan at all. its about the games and ps3 just doesn't have that many right now. many people bought ps3 for its future titles that is why it has outsold 360 in japan.

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[QUOTE="ngoniko"]

1. xbox left a bad taste in their mouth --- A none point. If success of prior consoles plays a significant part, the PS3 would be selling through the roof and the Wii would be a failure.

2. shooters = xbox -- blue dragon, lost odyssey, trusty bell. More AAA JRPGs are on the 360 than the PS3 and Wii.

3. bluedragon is not going to make them think that 360 is a rpg system or variety. -- but final fantasty alone will turn around PS3 sales?

4. Good games is all about preference, GEARS of wars is good for us, but not good enough for them. -- PS3's best game right now is resistance.

Ninja-Vox

Software alone cannot save the PS3. "The future games" simply isn't a realistic outlook.

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#64 Ninja-Vox
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"] sorry to bust your bubble, but those AAA games didnt sale the system in japan. even though i love gears of war and rainbow six for the 360. those games with a AAA title didnt do nothing in japan. -Renegade

That's exactly the point i just made. Thank you. :|

Do you actually read anything before hitting reply? Seriously?

your point fails because fps are not popular in japan at all. its about the games and ps3 just doesn't have that many right now. many people bought ps3 for its future titles that is why it has outsold 360 in japan.

That's exactly what i said. AAA games doesn't mean anything if they dont cater to japanese tastes. :|

That made me laugh. You're rebutting a point and agreeing with me at the same time.

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You my good sir, are failing to see Sony ultimate plan. The real reason that the PS3 if failing so far is because the PS2 is still sellng strong. Once the PS2 owners are prepared to take a step to the next gen, they will want to go with a system that is well know to them, and one that they can play their large PS2 library on. It is an ingenious plan, and it is inevitable that Sony will conquer once more in this generation.
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#66 MellowMight
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

alfy13

this quote that i highlighted is why your logic is faulty. if you really think ps3 will continue to sell at the rate it is now even though games that JA likes FFXI, WKS, DMC etc willn to boost sales then i do not have anything else to say to you. even MS will have games thatwill boost 360 sales in japan. but

for a system that has what like 2 games that JA likes sold close toa Million where a system that been out a year with lots of game only sold 370k something is fishy do you not think?

but yes Wii is destorying both the ps3 and 360 on sales wise in japan.

You have serious reading problems. He said "it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.", not that PS3 saleswill continue at the rate its in now.

Comprehension is the name of the game, try it. :|

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You my good sir, are failing to see Sony ultimate plan. The real reason that the PS3 if failing so far is because the PS2 is still sellng strong. Once the PS2 owners are prepared to take a step to the next gen, they will want to go with a system that is well know to them, and one that they can play their large PS2 library on. It is an ingenious plan, and it is inevitable that Sony will conquer once more in this generation.snorlaxmaster

Whatever happened to cautious optimism?

You're giving your system of choice a bad name.

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#68 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="D0013ER"][QUOTE="legalize3"]

see cooking mammas gets pretty boring after a while

legalize3

So does just waiting...

im waiting for nothing i know its comin

i still have fun with my ps2 where your xbox can be found somewhere in the sewer

lol you basically bashed your brand of choice with that comment.

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I hear Sony are not doing too well in India either

check out this awesome link for proof

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"][QUOTE="Magical_Zebra"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]i am kind of lost in your logic. a system with lots of game is failing harder then the system that has fewer games . so who is really failing here?legalize3

I'm aware that you're a fanboy, so its probably futile responding. I think the logic here is about as easy as it gets. I mean look at the pretty graph.

Sony's next-gen offering has been a colossal failure in Japan when compared to Nintendo's. That's it. I'm asking what people think about this, and how it could be fixed.

What logic are you lost in, exactly?

The sad part is. No one expected the Xbox or the 360 to clean up in the japanese market. Whats even worse is that the PS3 is selling like **** in itrs own hometown of Japan. Thats sad...... :shock:

That's exactly my point. I wasn't expecting so many people to completely miss the point. Well, two people... but they still seem lost in what is essentially an incredibly simple thread.

its selling good without games they like

why buy a ps3 if it does not have games you like doesnt make sense to me and teh fact that there will be a pricecut when games will be released i like

First off its not selling good. Secondly if everyone plays by your logic Sony is already dead and buried.

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its selling good without games they like

why buy a ps3 if it does not have games you like doesnt make sense to me and teh fact that there will be a pricecut when games will be released i like

legalize3

:lol:

If you say so...

Software will not save it. You're blind if you believe that. You honestly think Final Fantasy alone will increase sales ten-fold? Because that's what it needs just to compete with the Wii.

Heck, if PS3 sales DOUBLED tomorrow, and continued at this rate, while the Wii was pulled off the shelves, it'd take two years for the PS3 to catch up in sales.

Clearly, something needs to be done. "Final Fantasy is coming..." is a rediculous point.

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#72 legalize3
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

MellowMight

this quote that i highlighted is why your logic is faulty. if you really think ps3 will continue to sell at the rate it is now even though games that JA likes FFXI, WKS, DMC etc willn to boost sales then i do not have anything else to say to you. even MS will have games thatwill boost 360 sales in japan. but

for a system that has what like 2 games that JA likes sold close toa Million where a system that been out a year with lots of game only sold 370k something is fishy do you not think?

but yes Wii is destorying both the ps3 and 360 on sales wise in japan.

You have serious reading problems. He said "it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.", not that PS3 saleswill continue at the rate its in now.

Comprehension is the name of the game, try it. :|

oh if

i shouldve take thistoppic serious to begin with

lemmings trying to be analists is a bad thing

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#73 ngoniko
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[QUOTE="ngoniko"]

1. xbox left a bad taste in their mouth --- A none point. If success of prior consoles plays a significant part, the PS3 would be selling through the roof and the Wii would be a failure.

2. shooters = xbox -- blue dragon, lost odyssey, trusty bell. More AAA JRPGs are on the 360 than the PS3 and Wii.

3. bluedragon is not going to make them think that 360 is a rpg system or variety. -- but final fantasty alone will turn around PS3 sales?

4. Good games is all about preference, GEARS of wars is good for us, but not good enough for them. -- PS3's best game right now is resistance.

Ninja-Vox

1 and 2 was about xbox 1

3. ps3 white knight and more

4. best game to you maybe, but not to them, resistance in japan doesn't even have blood because of censor

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#74 D0013ER
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lemmings trying to be analists is a bad thing

legalize3

a Cow misspelling "analyst", on the other hand...

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You my good sir, are failing to see Sony ultimate plan. The real reason that the PS3 if failing so far is because the PS2 is still sellng strong. Once the PS2 owners are prepared to take a step to the next gen, they will want to go with a system that is well know to them, and one that they can play their large PS2 library on. It is an ingenious plan, and it is inevitable that Sony will conquer once more in this generation.snorlaxmaster

That explains why all those SNES owners bought an N64 then, right? Because Nintendo was what they were "used to" as you put it.

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#76 legalize3
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its selling good without games they like

why buy a ps3 if it does not have games you like doesnt make sense to me and teh fact that there will be a pricecut when games will be released i like

Ninja-Vox

:lol:

If you say so...

Software will not save it. You're blind if you believe that. You honestly think Final Fantasy alone will increase sales ten-fold? Because that's what it needs just to compete with the Wii.

Heck, if PS3 sales DOUBLED tomorrow, and continued at this rate, while the Wii was pulled off the shelves, it'd take two years for the PS3 to catch up in sales.

Clearly, something needs to be done. "Final Fantasy is coming..." is a rediculous point.

as if software will save the wii

i didnt see many anoucemnt for the wii in 2008 there is where ps3 will start selling like crazy and wii spend all their games and banking on cooking mammas

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its selling good without games they like

why buy a ps3 if it does not have games you like doesnt make sense to me and teh fact that there will be a pricecut when games will be released i like

legalize3

Um excuse me sir. Where can I find this mysterious link that there will be a price cut? You may want to read this and what "Daddy Jack" had to say on price cuts in 07. Furthermore, if you think that M$ wont respond with a price cut of their own, your crazy....

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#78 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="MellowMight"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

legalize3

this quote that i highlighted is why your logic is faulty. if you really think ps3 will continue to sell at the rate it is now even though games that JA likes FFXI, WKS, DMC etc willn to boost sales then i do not have anything else to say to you. even MS will have games thatwill boost 360 sales in japan. but

for a system that has what like 2 games that JA likes sold close toa Million where a system that been out a year with lots of game only sold 370k something is fishy do you not think?

but yes Wii is destorying both the ps3 and 360 on sales wise in japan.

You have serious reading problems. He said "it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.", not that PS3 saleswill continue at the rate its in now.

Comprehension is the name of the game, try it. :|

oh if

i shouldve take thistoppic serious to begin with

lemmings trying to be analists is a bad thing

The word "if" is used to describe something of uncertainty or something that isn't a fact. He used the word "if" because its impossilbe to know "what" will happen. Nobody is being an analyst lol

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#79 Ninja-Vox
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oh if

i shouldve take thistoppic serious to begin with

lemmings trying to be analists is a bad thing

legalize3

Yeah. Too bad you've failed to come up with any point whatsoever in such a lame thread, right? :|

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This is something i've only come to realise recently. There are plenty of threads on sales and what-not, but i dont think people around system wars have a perspective on just how bad the PS3 is doing in Japan

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

Another statistic:

This isn't a simple slump. The Playstation 3 has an established trend of eight to ten thousand units a week.

Whereas the Xbox 360 has simply failed to turn around the poor standing on the original xbox, Sony have done so much more in somehow managing to turn around complete dominance into absolute failure.

This is pretty much Japan in a nutshell as far as console sales go. What do people think? Can Sony fix this?

Ninja-Vox

You do realize that the 360 has been out in Japan one year longer than the PS3, right?
Oh, I guess that must have slipped your mind. :lol:
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#81 istreakforfood
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[QUOTE="ngoniko"]

This is Wii release date in Japan

http://wii.ign.com/index/release.html?constraint.eq.game.locale=ja

look at June

its all about software

Ninja-Vox

Explain to me why the 360 is failing in Japan then, when it has more AAA games than the PS3 and the Wii, and also has Blue Dragon; arguably the best JRPG on current consoles.

:|

It's nothing to do with software, sadly. It's due to price, marketing and PR. The PS3 isn't selling. Simple as that.

blue dragon got 37/40 in famitsu. isnt that the same score that forza 2 got? the number of sales they wanted to have in japan for BD was 200,000, but it only sold about 180,000. they were close on the sales they wanted to achieve and for a system that is dead it did pretty well.

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#82 Ninja-Vox
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as if software will save the wii

i didnt see many anoucemnt for the wii in 2008 there is where ps3 will start selling like crazy and wii spend all their games and banking on cooking mammas

legalize3

Are you trying to get banned for trolling or something? The Wii doesn't need saving. If you haven't noticed, it hardly has any games and is annihilating everything else on the market.

Why am i even responding to you?

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#83 alfy13
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[QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

istreakforfood

this quote that i highlighted is why your logic is faulty. if you really think ps3 will continue to sell at the rate it is now even though games that JA likes FFXI, WKS, DMC etc willn to boost sales then i do not have anything else to say to you. even MS will have games thatwill boost 360 sales in japan. but

for a system that has what like 2 games that JA likes sold close toa Million where a system that been out a year with lots of game only sold 370k something is fishy do you not think?

but yes Wii is destorying both the ps3 and 360 on sales wise in japan.

what you are saying are speculations on how the ps3 will have a massive sales boost when those games are released. how can you be certain? plus he never bashed any of the 3 consoles. you just started to attack him cause of your fanboy googles. ninja iused the ps3 and wii sales record in japan to show the rate of the ps3 to catch up on sales to the wii on the current state. it doesnt mean this will be constant and sales wont change for better or worst for the ps3 in the future.

oh you do not think he picked the worst sales numbers of the ps3 while it has been out on accident? when we have seen it in the 40k range a week when games like gundam muso came out. that is why his thread is faulty. what JA is showing us is a trend meaning JA will not buy a console unless games are out for it. so if games like gundam gave a sale surge for the ps3, then what makes you think FFXI , Lost odessey, WKS wont do the same for the 360 and PS3?
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#84 Ninja-Vox
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blue dragon got 37/40 in famitsu. isnt that the same score that forza 2 got? the number of sales they wanted to have in japan for BD was 200,000, but it only sold about 180,000. they were close on the sales they wanted to achieve and for a system that is dead it did pretty well.

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Because it's a brilliant game. It didn't sell systems though. People who owned the 360 already bought it; but not many bought an xbox for it. At that point, the only AAA JRPG on a next-gen machine, but people didn't go nuts to buy an xbox to play it. It is foolish to believe people will suddenly start dropping huge wedges of cash on the PS3 as soon as RPGs are released.

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[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]You my good sir, are failing to see Sony ultimate plan. The real reason that the PS3 if failing so far is because the PS2 is still sellng strong. Once the PS2 owners are prepared to take a step to the next gen, they will want to go with a system that is well know to them, and one that they can play their large PS2 library on. It is an ingenious plan, and it is inevitable that Sony will conquer once more in this generation.D0013ER

Whatever happened to cautious optimism?

You're giving your system of choice a bad name.

i agree with snorlaxmaster. The 360 seems to have forced sony to release their console early. So, it's in sony's best interest to blend the two gens together like they are doing, and then pull the plug on the ps2 when the ps3 is stronger. The ps3 is a future minded console after all (waitstation) so any of its success would happen in the future
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oh you do not think he picked the worst sales numbers of the ps3 while it has been out on accident? when we have seen it in the 40k range a week when games like gundam muso came out. that is why his thread is faulty. what JA is showing us is a trend meaning JA will not buy a console unless games are out for it. so if games like gundam gave a sale surge for the ps3, then what makes you think FFXI , Lost odessey, WKS wont do the same for the 360 and PS3? alfy13

You lose again.

They're trend sales. Ie, they've been like that for months on end. Look at the graph already. It sold well at launch with the likes of Gundam and the like, then swiftly decreased to a level of sales it has maintained for nearly two thirds of a year. That is called a trend, my man. Not "picking the worst sales."

Keep trying. I'm sure you'll make a valid point sooner or later.

EDIT: I also find it hilarious that you think Final Fantasy will result in the PS3's sales increasing ten-fold.

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[QUOTE="MellowMight"][QUOTE="alfy13"][QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

An interesting statistic:

If the Wii were to be pulled off the shelves in Japan right now, it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.

legalize3

this quote that i highlighted is why your logic is faulty. if you really think ps3 will continue to sell at the rate it is now even though games that JA likes FFXI, WKS, DMC etc willn to boost sales then i do not have anything else to say to you. even MS will have games thatwill boost 360 sales in japan. but

for a system that has what like 2 games that JA likes sold close toa Million where a system that been out a year with lots of game only sold 370k something is fishy do you not think?

but yes Wii is destorying both the ps3 and 360 on sales wise in japan.

You have serious reading problems. He said "it would take four years for the Playstation 3 to catch up in sales, if it continued to sell at the rate it is now.", not that PS3 saleswill continue at the rate its in now.

Comprehension is the name of the game, try it. :|

oh if

i shouldve take thistoppic serious to begin with

lemmings trying to be analists is a bad thing

Wow. Not only am I a lemming, but im a "analist" too. Dont hate because I know how to read.

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The wii is killing the ps3 and 360 everywhere because it's alot cheaper casuals don't care about hdtv gaming or online multi player.
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The wii is killing the ps3 and 360 everywhere because it's alot cheaper casuals don't care about hdtv gaming or online multi player. BrooklynBomber

That could be it. Believe it or not that was the actual point of the thread. All i've got is two fanboys yelling on about Final Fantasy and how it'll single-handedly turn the console around.

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[QUOTE="D0013ER"]

[QUOTE="snorlaxmaster"]You my good sir, are failing to see Sony ultimate plan. The real reason that the PS3 if failing so far is because the PS2 is still sellng strong. Once the PS2 owners are prepared to take a step to the next gen, they will want to go with a system that is well know to them, and one that they can play their large PS2 library on. It is an ingenious plan, and it is inevitable that Sony will conquer once more in this generation.GunSmith1_basic

Whatever happened to cautious optimism?

You're giving your system of choice a bad name.

i agree with snorlaxmaster. The 360 seems to have forced sony to release their console early. So, it's in sony's best interest to blend the two gens together like they are doing, and then pull the plug on the ps2 when the ps3 is stronger. The ps3 is a future minded console after all (waitstation) so any of its success would happen in the future

Oh stop it. So let me get this straight. All the PS2 owners in the world (LIKE ME) are going to purchase a PS3 when we are prepared to take a step into the next gen??? Are you Sony PR? Sorry my man, Next Gen didnt start when you and Sony says so, it started in 11/05. :shock:

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[QUOTE="alfy13"] oh you do not think he picked the worst sales numbers of the ps3 while it has been out on accident? when we have seen it in the 40k range a week when games like gundam muso came out. that is why his thread is faulty. what JA is showing us is a trend meaning JA will not buy a console unless games are out for it. so if games like gundam gave a sale surge for the ps3, then what makes you think FFXI , Lost odessey, WKS wont do the same for the 360 and PS3? Ninja-Vox

You lose again.

They're trend sales. Ie, they've been like that for months on end. Look at the graph already. It sold well at launch with the likes of Gundam and the like, then swiftly decreased to a level of sales it has maintained for nearly two thirds of a year. That is called a trend, my man. Not "picking the worst sales."

Keep trying. I'm sure you'll make a valid point sooner or later.

EDIT: I also find it hilarious that you think Final Fantasy will result in the PS3's sales increasing ten-fold.

i already looked at the graph. but one thing this graph only shows its progress of sales totall. it doesnt show me when ps3 sales dipped to the 9k region, or when sales went up due to games coming out that the JA bought system for. so untill you show me a graph taht shows Sales Dipping and Rising then i wont be able to show you when the trend for that month for the ps3 or the 360 /
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You my good sir, are failing to see Sony ultimate plan. The real reason that the PS3 if failing so far is because the PS2 is still sellng strong. Once the PS2 owners are prepared to take a step to the next gen, they will want to go with a system that is well know to them, and one that they can play their large PS2 library on. It is an ingenious plan, and it is inevitable that Sony will conquer once more in this generation.snorlaxmaster

wow sony told you their master plan, awesome. im sure losing 2 billion dollars within 6 months of the ps3 release was all for their loyal fans who havent upgraded their console and are still on their ps2. they are good humanitarians.

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i already looked at the graph. but one thing this graph only shows its progress of sales totall. it doesnt show me when ps3 sales dipped to the 9k region, or when sales went up due to games coming out that the JA bought system for. so untill you show me a graph taht shows Sales Dipping and Rising then i wont be able to show you when the trend for that month for the ps3 or the 360 / alfy13

That's EXACTLY what the graph shows. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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[QUOTE="Ninja-Vox"]

[QUOTE="alfy13"]i am kind of lost in your logic. a system with lots of game is failing harder then the system that has fewer games . so who is really failing here?alfy13

I'm aware that you're a fanboy, so its probably futile responding. I think the logic here is about as easy as it gets. I mean look at the pretty graph.

Sony's next-gen offering has been a colossal failure in Japan when compared to Nintendo's. That's it. I'm asking what people think about this, and how it could be fixed.

What logic are you lost in, exactly?

oh i am sorry, i thougtht this thread was about 360 vs the ps3 sales in japan . but since you brought up the wii then yes ps3 is being owned over there.

but you must admit, even with the 360 head start, it has failed so badly over there.


but the 360 never had a hold in Japan.  The 360 has actually improved on the original Xbox's hold, while the PS3 lost everything the PS2 once had
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i already looked at the graph. but one thing this graph only shows its progress of sales totall. it doesnt show me when ps3 sales dipped to the 9k region, or when sales went up due to games coming out that the JA bought system for. so untill you show me a graph taht shows Sales Dipping and Rising then i wont be able to show you when the trend for that month for the ps3 or the 360 / alfy13

here

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#96 Ninja-Vox
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Hey, i went and found another one for you! This one is extra super easy to read, too! Hurrah!

Yes! Final Fantasy will increase PS3 tales ten-fold, right? The Wii is doomed!

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#97 cakeorrdeath
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Hey, i went and found another one for you!

Ninja-Vox

Out of interest what website are you getting these from?

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I agree with the topic. If a Japanese product like the PS3 is failing like an American product like the Xbox, in JAPAN, you can definately consider that as a failure.

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#99 alfy13
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[QUOTE="alfy13"]i already looked at the graph. but one thing this graph only shows its progress of sales totall. it doesnt show me when ps3 sales dipped to the 9k region, or when sales went up due to games coming out that the JA bought system for. so untill you show me a graph taht shows Sales Dipping and Rising then i wont be able to show you when the trend for that month for the ps3 or the 360 / Ninja-Vox

That's EXACTLY what the graph shows. :lol:

:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

sigh im dealing with a fanboy. let me break it down for you. show me a graph like this onebut for consoles and for japan
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[QUOTE="BrooklynBomber"]The wii is killing the ps3 and 360 everywhere because it's alot cheaper casuals don't care about hdtv gaming or online multi player. Ninja-Vox

That could be it. Believe it or not that was the actual point of the thread. All i've got is two fanboys yelling on about Final Fantasy and how it'll single-handedly turn the console around.

Now if the ps3 has FF 13 and DQ9 maybe it would close the gap alot but the wii is just owning in sales.I can't see that changing unless it's a fad and sales slow down alot in 2008 or the ps3 does a major price cut. The 360 is dead in japan and sales worldwide have fallen into a slump at the current pace even the ps3 will catch the 360 xmas 2008.