Sony refusing to take loss on PS4, $500-$600 price expected

I remember when Sony used to care about gamers and take big losses on all their consoles. Sad to see this.

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/155521-playtation-4-sony-announces-the-ps4-wont-be-sold-at-loss

It will not be $600. It absolutely will not cost that much. I'm gonna bet on $450.

#ThankYouLordKaz

Reading is Fundamental.

" Unlike PS3, we are not planning a major loss to be incurred with the launch of PS4 ... "

It will not be $600. It absolutely will not cost that much. I'm gonna bet on $450.

ActicEdge

MS is eating a loss on it too.

Another $599.99 PS4 is looking more likely.

I remember when Sony used to care about gamers and take big losses on all their consoles. Sad to see this.

 

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/155521-playtation-4-sony-announces-the-ps4-wont-be-sold-at-loss

robotapple

$500 at the absolute maximum. Theyre not going to scare people away with a $600 pricetag.

:roll:

Tretton said he "hopes" it's not $600

That pretty much confirms it will be in that range

Tretton also said he "hopes" that the PlayStation 4 won't cost $599 at launch (the PlayStation 3 launched in two models, at $499 and $599). "When I think about the console, you open it up, you look at it, you certainly look at it when you insert a disc, but for most people, it's behind a cabinet or on a shelf somewhere and you spend all your time looking at the screen," Tretton said

It all in profit

$800.

[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]

It will not be $600. It absolutely will not cost that much. I'm gonna bet on $450.

robotapple

MS is eating a loss on it too.

Another $599.99 PS4 is looking more likely.

No official pricing has been anounced on the new Xbox. It hasn't even been formally revealed :| . The PS4 will not cost $600. I'm having a hard time swallowing the main SKU even being $500. That would essentially say Sony learned nothing from last gen. They will not price themselves out of the competition like that.

#ThankYouLordKaz

NathanDrakeSwag

Sony will sell it for $400 or less because if not they will have to play catch-up again.

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bbkkristian

Theres no freaking way its going to be $600. The ps3 was running a $250-300 GPU with a custom IBM processor and a blue ray drive back when blue ray players/drives where 5-7x the value of what they are now. The ps4 is using a GPU that was mid range in freaking early 2012 and a processor that is x86 based (pc architecture). It should be like $400-450 tops

Theres no freaking way its going to be $600. The ps3 was running a $250-300 GPU with a custom IBM processor and a blue ray drive back when blue ray players/drives where 5-7x the value of what they are now. The ps4 is using a GPU that was mid range in freaking early 2012 and a processor that is x86 based (pc architecture). It should be like $400-450 tops

mastershake575

The PS4 is supposedly more powerful.

I thought  console were sold at losses and made up by licensing fee

Are you considering the 720 standalone model will be $500, sold at a loss by MS?

The PS4 is supposedly more powerful.

robotapple

The 720 might have to be sold at a lost since every unit comes with Kinect (that crap isn't cheap).

PS4 should be $450 tops given what I have stated (blue ray players are MUCH cheaper + the parts are more standarized/not at powerful as last generation)

[QUOTE="robotapple"]

I remember when Sony used to care about gamers and take big losses on all their consoles. Sad to see this.

 

http://www.extremetech.com/gaming/155521-playtation-4-sony-announces-the-ps4-wont-be-sold-at-loss

joel_c17

[QUOTE="robotapple"]

Are you considering the 720 standalone model will be $500, sold at a loss by MS?

The PS4 is supposedly more powerful.

 

mastershake575

The 720 might have to be sold at a lost since every unit comes with Kinect (that crap isn't cheap).

PS4 should be $450 tops given what I have stated (blue ray players are MUCH cheaper + the parts are more standarized/not at powerful as last generation)

$25 per unit before the mark up

Kinect tech is dirt cheap nowadays

$25 per unit before the mark up

robotapple

There is no real custom hardware in the thing. That drastically reduces the cost of the device. 

They'll also probably have PS+ subscription levels day 1. The PS4 will generate revenue much better than the PS3 ever could without screwing the customer. 

Theres no freaking way its going to be $600. The ps3 was running a $250-300 GPU with a custom IBM processor and a blue ray drive back when blue ray players/drives where 5-7x the value of what they are now. The ps4 is using a GPU that was mid range in freaking early 2012 and a processor that is x86 based (pc architecture). It should be like $400-450 tops

mastershake575

$250-300 GPU?

The GPU was the cheapest thing in the PS3 other than the harddrive. The XDR Ram, Blu-ray drive, and cell all cost far more to develop because they were either new or only used in the PS3. 

The PS4 is using more off-the-shelf hardware. AMD is taking hardware they already build and just customizing it for Sony. It's a lot cheaper than building a whole new processor. The Cell was a massive investment that didn't pay off and XDR ram never went anywhere. That kept the manufacturing costs high on the PS3. They also had a last minute deal with Nvidia to provide a GPU which probably cost them quite a bit.

Are you considering the 720 standalone model will be $500, sold at a loss by MS?

The PS4 is supposedly more powerful.

 

robotapple

The PS4 been stronger has nothing to do with MS $500 pricing,MS can price the xbox at $800 that has nothing to do with the PS4,it has to do with MS making profits out of the gate,there is no way in hell MS can justify a $500 with those lame ass specs.

If the xbox 720 actually retails for $500 MS will be making a huge profit on each unit,and when i say huge i mean probably $120 or more per unit.

thank you lord robotapplestereointegrity

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sony taking their fanboys from the behind, as always 

$250-300 GPU?

Wasdie

Dat GDDR5 is expensive,it was the trojan horse to get basement dwellers to buy the console :cool:Tessellation

No it's not. It's very cheap. Ever major GPU today uses it. The amount it gets manufactured brings the price down considerably. 

There is no real custom hardware in the thing. That drastically reduces the cost of the device. 

They'll also probably have PS+ subscription levels day 1. The PS4 will generate revenue much better than the PS3 ever could without screwing the customer. 

Wasdie

subscriptions :cry:

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

There is no real custom hardware in the thing. That drastically reduces the cost of the device. 

They'll also probably have PS+ subscription levels day 1. The PS4 will generate revenue much better than the PS3 ever could without screwing the customer. 

TheFadeForever

subscriptions :cry:

So? It will be like PS+ today. Optional but worth it.

"Not planning a major loss" =/= refusing to take any loss.

Learn to read, dumbass.

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Dat GDDR5 is expensive,it was the trojan horse to get basement dwellers to buy the console :cool:Wasdie

No it's not. It's very cheap. Ever major GPU today uses it. The amount it gets manufactured brings the price down considerably. 

It's not important what PS4 costs as long as it doesn't cost more (or unconscionably more) than Xbox as far as Sony should be concerned.  All discussions about pricing are posturing maneuvers meant to try and psych out competitors.  It'll cost what it's worth when you choose to buy one (digest it for a moment).

It will not be $600. It absolutely will not cost that much. I'm gonna bet on $450.

ActicEdge

welp this holiday is going to be a blunder for it if its 500 or higher

[QUOTE="Wasdie"]

[QUOTE="Tessellation"]Dat GDDR5 is expensive,it was the trojan horse to get basement dwellers to buy the console :cool:Tessellation

No it's not. It's very cheap. Ever major GPU today uses it. The amount it gets manufactured brings the price down considerably. 

Not really. You're getting 8 gigs on a board, not smaller amounts, which always cost more. Buy in bulk. Order large quantities, much larger than Nvidia or AMD would order at once, and order larger GB amounts at once and the prices will drop even further. 

It'll be 450 to 500, Sony doesn't want to have to hear the $599 joke for 7 more years :P

Hey, if it's all that it's cracked up to be it'll be definitely worth the $500, can't wait to see what the console actually looks like.  I'm going to make sure I get a couple original style model's (At launch and then one with die shrinks and revisions), because Sony's slim lines are cheap piece's o' crap (not the Ps1 though).  They'll make a sleek and great looking first model, then get rid of it and give us some cheap shit.  Why can't they just make the slim like a smaller first model?  Ugh.

Why not just go the cell phone-plan route? You buy a device at about 1/3 of its retail price but you sign a contract for ~2 years to the providers plan (Live or PSN+)