Super Mario 3D Land -Hype Thread- (56K) Flop In Three Dimensions! Out Now!

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#451 Renegade_Fury
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So he praises the game virtually nonstop, and gives it an 8, because? Yeah, I don't understand this one, but Super Mario 3D Land will probably be the first game I buy when I get a 3DS.

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#452 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] It flopping didn't stop it from selling neary 400k copies in Japan alone for its first week, nor did it stop it from driving 3DS sales up through the roof ;)

Ah here it is...the SALES damage control. Nice. We're covering all of our bases in this thread.

Please, I already admitted it is a flop, this isn't damage control, this is about AtariKid's anti 3DS vendetta which I am countering. Funnily enough, I never see you call HIM out on anything. Biased, are we?

I am not biased. I hate everyone and every game and every console equally. :) I only love Bread.
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#454 Bread_or_Decide
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So he praises the game virtually nonstop, and gives it an 8, because? Yeah, I don't understand this one, but Super Mario 3D Land will probably be the first game I buy when I get a 3DS.

Renegade_Fury
Probably because it's a cake walk and does nothing that's new or exciting.
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#455 fitzokoli
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Great score! (Though I kind of expected 8.5 at least.) Mario Land 3D, MK7, Zelda SS, Kirby AND Kirby... My Nintendo "to buy" list is through the roof!

DRAGONPIECEZ

Me too! Picking this up Sunday, then Zelda( which i'm super super hyped for) the following Sunday, then Mario Kart 7 when it comes out Dec.Gonna be a fun gaming season!

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#456 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Ah here it is...the SALES damage control. Nice. We're covering all of our bases in this thread.

Please, I already admitted it is a flop, this isn't damage control, this is about AtariKid's anti 3DS vendetta which I am countering. Funnily enough, I never see you call HIM out on anything. Biased, are we?

I am not biased. I hate everyone and every game and every console equally. :) I only love Bread.

Good. Then you will see I was the first to admit this game flopping, I gave this thread its title, in fact, and I am not DC'ing at all. What I am doing is deflating AtariKid's anti 3DS balloon even more. Btw, it must feel great to hate all consoles and games, no emotional investment in any of it whatsoever :P
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#457 SaltyMeatballs
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'da hell?

http://pics.livejournal.com/cordeliasmarz/pic/0013k5bc

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#458 fitzokoli
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So he praises the game virtually nonstop, and gives it an 8, because? Yeah, I don't understand this one, but Super Mario 3D Land will probably be the first game I buy when I get a 3DS.

Renegade_Fury

I bought a 3DS about 2weeks ago just to play this game! Super pumped!

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#459 ConsoleCounsla_
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nintendo first party seriously needs to work with some sony devs for innovation, and fresh ideas..
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#460 Shinobishyguy
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Probably because it's a cake walk and does nothing that's new or exciting.Bread_or_Decide

Again you prove that you're just spewing BS without reading into the game

Nowhere in the review does it say it's a cake walk :?

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#461 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"] Y'know it kinda pays to know some thing about the games you're trying to bash ;)
[QUOTE="Renegade_Fury"]

So he praises the game virtually nonstop, and gives it an 8, because? Yeah, I don't understand this one, but Super Mario 3D Land will probably be the first game I buy when I get a 3DS.

Bread_or_Decide
Probably because it's a cake walk and does nothing that's new or exciting.

Again you prove that you're just spewing BS Nowhere in the review does it say it's a cake walk :?

IGN says it's a cake walk.
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nintendo first party seriously needs to work with some sony devs for innovation, and fresh ideas..ConsoleCounsla_
:lol: This one's priceless
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#463 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] IGN says it's a cake walk.

IGN also gave it a 9.5 ;)
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#464 DRAGONPIECEZ
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[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Great score! (Though I kind of expected 8.5 at least.) Mario Land 3D, MK7, Zelda SS, Kirby AND Kirby... My Nintendo "to buy" list is through the roof!

fitzokoli

Me too! Picking this up Sunday, then Zelda( which i'm super super hyped for) the following Sunday, then Mario Kart 7 when it comes out Dec.Gonna be a fun gaming season!

Yeah! I'm getting Collector's Edition day 1!! Dat gold remote /drools

Not sure if I'm picking up ML3D and MK7 up day one though. I don't wanna split my play time up between games. Christmas gifts, perhaps.

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#465 nintendoboy16
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IGN says it's a cake walk. Bread_or_Decide
This is the GAMESPOT review, not the IGN review.

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#466 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] IGN says it's a cake walk.

IGN also gave it a 9.5 ;)

Seems like he'll only agree with reviewer's points when it's convenient to him
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] IGN says it's a cake walk.

IGN also gave it a 9.5 ;)

Seems like he'll only agree with reviewer's points when it's convenient to him

And he criticizes others for doing the same thing.
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[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"]nintendo first party seriously needs to work with some sony devs for innovation, and fresh ideas..charizard1605
:lol: This one's priceless

im serious....when will he be able to use lightning bolts, wind, water, i mean are they really still stuck with basic fireballs? i mean....if ratchet can kill his enemies with over 50 different awesome weapons, are we really going to still jump on mushroom heads or do a basic punch? nathan drake is rock climbing while mario is sticking to honey like were playing preschool games.
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"]nintendo first party seriously needs to work with some sony devs for innovation, and fresh ideas..ConsoleCounsla_
:lol: This one's priceless

im serious....when will he be able to use lightning bolts, wind, water, i mean are they really still stuck with basic fireballs? i mean....if ratchet can kill his enemies with over 50 different awesome weapons, are we really going to still jump on mushroom heads or do a basic punch? nathan drake is rock climbing while mario is sticking to honey like were playing preschool games.

Sigh

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#470 fitzokoli
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[QUOTE="fitzokoli"]

[QUOTE="DRAGONPIECEZ"]

Great score! (Though I kind of expected 8.5 at least.) Mario Land 3D, MK7, Zelda SS, Kirby AND Kirby... My Nintendo "to buy" list is through the roof!

DRAGONPIECEZ

Me too! Picking this up Sunday, then Zelda( which i'm super super hyped for) the following Sunday, then Mario Kart 7 when it comes out Dec.Gonna be a fun gaming season!

Yeah! I'm getting Collector's Edition day 1!! Dat gold remote /drools

Not sure if I'm picking up ML3D and MK7 up day one though. I don't wanna split my play time up between games. Christmas gifts, perhaps.

Yeah i know what you mean! Its not too bad for me since its different platforms and different genres.MK7 would serve as a good break time from lengthy session adventuring as Link :P And i can also play 3DS when i'm not home so that'll come in handy :)

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#471 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"]nintendo first party seriously needs to work with some sony devs for innovation, and fresh ideas..ConsoleCounsla_
:lol: This one's priceless

im serious....when will he be able to use lightning bolts, wind, water, i mean are they really still stuck with basic fireballs? i mean....if ratchet can kill his enemies with over 50 different awesome weapons, are we really going to still jump on mushroom heads or do a basic punch? nathan drake is rock climbing while mario is sticking to honey like were playing preschool games.

So rock climbing and explosions = innovation?
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#472 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="nintendoboy16"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] IGN also gave it a 9.5 ;)

Seems like he'll only agree with reviewer's points when it's convenient to him

And he criticizes others for doing the same thing.

Yup.
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#473 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] :lol: This one's pricelessmeetroid8
im serious....when will he be able to use lightning bolts, wind, water, i mean are they really still stuck with basic fireballs? i mean....if ratchet can kill his enemies with over 50 different awesome weapons, are we really going to still jump on mushroom heads or do a basic punch? nathan drake is rock climbing while mario is sticking to honey like were playing preschool games.

So rock climbing and explosions = innovation?

Mario's had explosions since SMB2 :lol: Bob-ombs anyone?
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So, I'm going to actually read the review and see what they don't like about the game. "One feature that doesn't add much to the experience is 3D. The effect is purely optional, meaning the 3D is pure eye candy with minimal impact on the gameplay. At its best, the effect adds a neat sense of depth when you're underwater or a touch of vertigo in the air. But these tricks have been used before, and it would have been nice to see this new feature used in more interesting ways. " Hm, okay. So 3D isn't used that well, but neither does it take away from the game. "Some of the other features also lack creativity." I'll accept that as a valid flaw, though Streetpass and the gyrometer.. aren't those things that most of us here in SW don't really care about anyway? *searches for more* *review is over* *it's only a page long* *the entire review is under 900 words long* Now let's look at the positive. -Well-crafted stages for all skill levels -Simple, responsive controls -Player-assistance items are great in a pinch -Invokes 2D Mario in a 3D world. Okay, so the stages are well done, the game controls well, it has some nice features, and it is something fairly new for Mario. Streetpass and the gyrometer aren't used well. Really, I don't like damage control, but I can really see where people are coming from when they call this a terrible review. It is short, lacks criticism for the game, is a review in the minority (due to the score), and really only points out good things about the game. I say nothing on the quality of the game, but I say that the quality of the review is terrible.
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#475 BigBoss255
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I was blown away by the e3 trailer and I'll still get this, eventually.
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#476 GamerEye
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A flop here means nothing. It will still sell millions. I will still buy it. Everybody esle for the most part is giving it high reviews (9+). Also I think GS has something ageanst handhelds, so few handheld games this generation have gotten 9+...unless I'm mistaken.

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[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] :lol: This one's pricelessmeetroid8
im serious....when will he be able to use lightning bolts, wind, water, i mean are they really still stuck with basic fireballs? i mean....if ratchet can kill his enemies with over 50 different awesome weapons, are we really going to still jump on mushroom heads or do a basic punch? nathan drake is rock climbing while mario is sticking to honey like were playing preschool games.

So rock climbing and explosions = innovation?

way to place an equal sign between two of my different posts....and when did i say anything about explosions?
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So, I'm going to actually read the review and see what they don't like about the game. "One feature that doesn't add much to the experience is 3D. The effect is purely optional, meaning the 3D is pure eye candy with minimal impact on the gameplay. At its best, the effect adds a neat sense of depth when you're underwater or a touch of vertigo in the air. But these tricks have been used before, and it would have been nice to see this new feature used in more interesting ways. " Hm, okay. So 3D isn't used that well, but neither does it take away from the game. "Some of the other features also lack creativity." I'll accept that as a valid flaw, though Streetpass and the gyrometer.. aren't those things that most of us here in SW don't really care about anyway? *searches for more* *review is over* *it's only a page long* *the entire review is under 900 words long* Now let's look at the positive. Well-crafted stages for all skill levels Simple, responsive controls Player-assistance items are great in a pinch Invokes 2D Mario in a 3D world. Okay, so the stages are well done, the game controls well, it has some nice features, and it is something fairly new for Mario. Streetpass and the gyrometer aren't used well. Really, I don't like damage control, but I can really see where people are coming from when they call this a terrible review. It is short, lacks criticism for the game, is a review in the minority (due to the score), and really only points out good things about the game. I say nothing on the quality of the game, but I say that the quality of the review is terrible. SoraX64
A well made average game is still average. Some games can have ZERO flaws but that doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. Clearly this game just has zero wow factor. It's just mario...the same mario we've been playing for years...and does very little to refresh the formula. Compared to SMG which reinvented platforming with it's insanely awesome level design. Just because it doesn't have tons of flaws doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. It needs to stand out in someway and this game just doesnt's tand out. Unless you're a sheep and anything with marios face on it excites you.

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A well made average game is still average. Some games can have ZERO flaws but that doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. Clearly this game just has zero wow factor. It's just mario...the same mario we've been playing for years...and does very little to refresh the formula. Compared to SMG which reinvented platforming with it's insanely awesome level design. Just because it doesn't have tons of flaws doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. It needs to stand out in someway and this game just doesnt's tand out. Unless you're a sheep and anything with marios face on it excites you.

Bread_or_Decide
I understand that, but they still did not give any indication that it is only an average game, and with the majority of reviews giving the game a higher score, it seems as if the consensus of the critics is that the game is really, really good. I wouldn't say what I did without noticing that beforehand, but when other publications are giving the game 9's and 9.5's, and GS writes a review saying that it's a good game, and then they only give it an 8, something seems.. off. Edit: And I'm not trying to say that GS's reviewer's opinion is invalid, but that one 8/10 review among a group of 9/10+ reviews doesn't make the game only average.
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] This is the wrong thread to be saying it...cause it is just damage control. Just accept your flop that's the best way to react.

Why cant I discuss a game on here without getting arguments like this? I already said earlier that I dont care what it scores, and I preordered it after I saw the GS score. Its not a matter of accepting a flop, as I take no stock in GS scores to begin with. If you want to say it flopped on the site, thats fine and true. But, its not "my flop"....Im not the kind of person that tallies AAAe's like it matters.... anymore.
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#482 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

A well made average game is still average. Some games can have ZERO flaws but that doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. Clearly this game just has zero wow factor. It's just mario...the same mario we've been playing for years...and does very little to refresh the formula. Compared to SMG which reinvented platforming with it's insanely awesome level design. Just because it doesn't have tons of flaws doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. It needs to stand out in someway and this game just doesnt's tand out. Unless you're a sheep and anything with marios face on it excites you.

SoraX64
I understand that, but they still did not give any indication that it is only an average game, and with the majority of reviews giving the game a higher score, it seems as if the consensus of the critics is that the game is really, really good. I wouldn't say what I did without noticing that beforehand, but when other publications are giving the game 9's and 9.5's, and GS writes a review saying that it's a good game, and then they only give it an 8, something seems.. off. Edit: And I'm not trying to say that GS's reviewer's opinion is invalid, but that one 8/10 review among a group of 9/10+ reviews doesn't make the game only average.

I love that gamespot is harder to please. It's why I come here.
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#483 ConsoleCounsla_
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] This is the wrong thread to be saying it...cause it is just damage control. Just accept your flop that's the best way to react. wolverine4262
Why cant I discuss a game on here without getting arguments like this? I already said earlier that I dont care what it scores, and I preordered it after I saw the GS score. Its not a matter of accepting a flop, as I take no stock in GS scores to begin with. If you want to say it flopped on the site, thats fine and true. But, its not "my flop"....Im not the kind of person that tallies AAAe's like it matters.... anymore.

true, but gs scores are respected, meaning you will enjoy an 8.0 calibur mario game, not a 10 calibur mario game. maybe i will play it too some day, but its somewhere at the bottom of my long list of PS3 games i need to play first.
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#484 SoraX64
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[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] I love that gamespot is harder to please. It's why I come here.

That's a very interesting comeback.
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[QUOTE="ConsoleCounsla_"] true, but gs scores are respected, meaning you will enjoy an 8.0 calibur mario game, not a 10 calibur mario game. maybe i will play it too some day, but its somewhere at the bottom of my long list of PS3 games i need to play first.

GS scores are respected by the forum, not me personally.
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#486 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="SoraX64"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"]

A well made average game is still average. Some games can have ZERO flaws but that doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. Clearly this game just has zero wow factor. It's just mario...the same mario we've been playing for years...and does very little to refresh the formula. Compared to SMG which reinvented platforming with it's insanely awesome level design. Just because it doesn't have tons of flaws doesn't entitle it to a AAA score. It needs to stand out in someway and this game just doesnt's tand out. Unless you're a sheep and anything with marios face on it excites you.

Bread_or_Decide
I understand that, but they still did not give any indication that it is only an average game, and with the majority of reviews giving the game a higher score, it seems as if the consensus of the critics is that the game is really, really good. I wouldn't say what I did without noticing that beforehand, but when other publications are giving the game 9's and 9.5's, and GS writes a review saying that it's a good game, and then they only give it an 8, something seems.. off. Edit: And I'm not trying to say that GS's reviewer's opinion is invalid, but that one 8/10 review among a group of 9/10+ reviews doesn't make the game only average.

I love that gamespot is harder to please. It's why I come here.

I don't recall you singing praise for their reviews when they gave Brawl a 9.5 ;)
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#487 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="SoraX64"] I understand that, but they still did not give any indication that it is only an average game, and with the majority of reviews giving the game a higher score, it seems as if the consensus of the critics is that the game is really, really good. I wouldn't say what I did without noticing that beforehand, but when other publications are giving the game 9's and 9.5's, and GS writes a review saying that it's a good game, and then they only give it an 8, something seems.. off. Edit: And I'm not trying to say that GS's reviewer's opinion is invalid, but that one 8/10 review among a group of 9/10+ reviews doesn't make the game only average.

I love that gamespot is harder to please. It's why I come here.

I don't recall you singing praise for their reviews when they gave Brawl a 9.5 ;)

Yeah that totally sucked. wtf? :)
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"][QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] I love that gamespot is harder to please. It's why I come here. Bread_or_Decide
I don't recall you singing praise for their reviews when they gave Brawl a 9.5 ;)

Yeah that totally sucked. wtf? :)

so again, an example of you only going by GS's reviews when it's convenient

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#489 Bread_or_Decide
Member since 2007 • 29761 Posts

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"][QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]I don't recall you singing praise for their reviews when they gave Brawl a 9.5 ;)Shinobishyguy

Yeah that totally sucked. wtf? :)

so again, an example of you only going by GS's reviews when it's convenient

yup
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#490 Big_Pecks
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WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

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#491 Shinobishyguy
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WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

Big_Pecks
I wouldn't be surprised if it happen again with skyward sword, regardless of how good the game is.
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#492 sammyjenkis898
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WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

Big_Pecks
God forbid the reviewer is actually honest with his opinion.
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#493 Big_Pecks
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[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

Shinobishyguy

I wouldn't be surprised if it happen again with skyward sword, regardless of how good the game is.



I've always had that feeling. Same with any 3DS game.

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#494 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

Shinobishyguy
I wouldn't be surprised if it happen again with skyward sword, regardless of how good the game is.

That would be sweet.
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#495 Bread_or_Decide
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[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

sammyjenkis898
God forbid the reviewer is actually honest with his opinion.

No they should all agree with each other.
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#496 Shinobishyguy
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[QUOTE="Big_Pecks"]

WTF? Once again, GameSpot is the lowest score and outlier.

sammyjenkis898

God forbid the reviewer is actually honest with his opinion.

yes I'm sure they're a special little snowflake for giving nintendo games a lower score than pratically every where else...like almost every time

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#497 GD1551
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I wasn't that far off!

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#498 lordlors
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[QUOTE="Shinobishyguy"]

[QUOTE="Bread_or_Decide"] Yeah that totally sucked. wtf? :)Bread_or_Decide

so again, an example of you only going by GS's reviews when it's convenient

yup

that's a true fanboy to the core right there. Bread proud to be fanboy! FTW!
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I knew it would be in the shadows of the masterpiece that is Galaxy 2. Mehh, I didn't see anything special in it either, but I knew it would be a good game.:P Either way, I'll play it some day, but Nintendo, you're only getting my money for Zelda and nothing else for a long ass time bruh.

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#500 RR360DD
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Another flop for the 3DS. After the huge amout of hype the 3DS received after its announcement at E3, surely this has to be the most disappointing handheld / entertainment device of all time.

The Wii U's announcement was a fail, i can't imagine how bad it will be once it launches.