The Nintendo Switch 2 Hype Thread, Nintendo Direct. Coming June 5th at $449.99

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#651 Maroxad
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While the PS5 version looks better. The Switch 2 version is nonetheless quite impressive.

Diminishing returns on better specs is quite noticeable.

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#652 Maroxad
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Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

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#653 Archangel3371
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@Maroxad: Yeah, these games are looking quite good on the Switch 2 and these are early days. Things will get even better as devs get more acquainted with the hardware.

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@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Still an early build, and we won't know if CDPR will enable DLSS on the Switch 2 Port. It's possible they will

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#656  Edited By Maroxad
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Still an early build, and we won't know if CDPR will enable DLSS on the Switch 2 Port. It's possible they will

Yeah. It is possible the Switch 2 port will look better on launch, considering this took just 7 weeks to make.

Furthermore, if I were to play the Switch 2 Version, and then the PS5 Pro version. I wouldnt be able to tell the difference. If you asked me afterwards. You pretty much have to show me a direct image comparison for me to say the PS5 Pro version looks better.

The same probably goes for PC too.

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#657  Edited By dabear
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If Nintendo does what they are saying (variable pricing per game), the Switch 2 deserves a hard flop.

If you spend $80 - $120 on a Mario game, you're a chump; plain and simple.

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#658 DaVillain  Moderator
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Canada delaying pre-orders until further notice:

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#659 Chutebox
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Saw that. Sorry Canadians, but I couldn't help but laugh. 😁

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#660 Archangel3371
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Well that sucks. 😔

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#661 DaVillain  Moderator
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@FireEmblem_Man: If Nintendo is not careful, history will repeat itself:

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#662 FireEmblem_Man
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@davillain said:

@FireEmblem_Man: If Nintendo is not careful, history will repeat itself:

Doug Bowser will never be Reggie, at least Reggie can convinced the heads of Nintendo what needs to be done for the success of Nintendo consoles and handhelds. Doug Bowser seems to only be taking orders and not allowing any input. Reggie would tell Furukawa that $80 for Mario Kart is not going to be given a good response as well charging $10 for a tech demo. Yeah, I see why people are comparing Bowser to Mattrick, however, Switch 2 has something worth buying over being a VCR media player w/Kinect shoehorned

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@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Prepare to be disappointed if you believe the Switch 2 is on par with the PS5 Pro.😎

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#664  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Switch 2 just cannot catch a break:

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#665  Edited By SecretPolice
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Poo sheep!! lolol :P

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#666 SolidGame_basic  Online
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They're now saying the Switch 2 editions will be all on cartridge. I hope so.

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#667 Chutebox
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Why China?

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I wish I could make a brand like Nintendo. The fans will defend everything even an updated $70, 8 year old game that will not include expansion packs.

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If true, goddamn.

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#670 FireEmblem_Man
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@davillain said:

Switch 2 just cannot catch a break:

F*ck China! Plus, Nintendo has to use some sort of vessel to sell their product, only to get their patent stolen for cheap knockoffs be sold outside their country.

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@davillain said:

Switch 2 just cannot catch a break:

If I'm reading charts correctly, the Switch 1 sold only a few million units in China - like it was only around 3% of the total hardware sales.

So it seems like the Switch 2 could lose China and it won't affect their bottom line at all.

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@Planeforger said:
@davillain said:

Switch 2 just cannot catch a break:

If I'm reading charts correctly, the Switch 1 sold only a few million units in China - like it was only around 3% of the total hardware sales.

So it seems like the Switch 2 could lose China and it won't affect their bottom line at all.

Pretty much, due to how much grip China has in their economy and treat their own products at a higher priority, hence why the gaming market is dominated by PC gaming.

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#673 SolidGame_basic  Online
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Come on, Nintendo

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#674  Edited By Archangel3371
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Not including the dlc with the game when you rerelease it like this is just blatant greed. Disgusting.

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#675 Chutebox
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Hopefully consumers actually talk with their wallets...

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#676 DaVillain  Moderator
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At this point BOTW should be classified as GOTY and should include all DLC. That's just pure greed on Nintendo's part.

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This puts a smile on my face at least.

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@davillain said:

At this point BOTW should be classified as GOTY and should include all DLC. That's just pure greed on Nintendo's part.

As a gamer who have long supported Nintendo's systems and games, I have decided not to purchase the Switch 2 and its games until the company changes its ways. I can at least wait until next year to see whether the situation changes, but if not, I may as well skip this console as I did with the Nintendo 64.

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#679  Edited By SolidGame_basic  Online
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Indeed, Nintendo has let their success get to their head. Very disappointed. 8 years later and they don't even give you game with the DLC for $70.

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Poo sheep. lol :P

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Tbh nintendo just showing why they can charge $90-120 per game in the early 90's. When nintendo dominates they becomes absolutely greedy fks. PS1 came and introduced the $50 standard price and destroyed nintendo dominance.

Now that Nintendo is back in their greedy ways I hope new important players comes to the portable scene and try to distrupts the market again. Who knows Sega might comes back... or even atari!

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@Pedro said:
@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Prepare to be disappointed if you believe the Switch 2 is on par with the PS5 Pro.😎

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

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Wonder what Nintendo still waiting on for preorders. Are they trying to come up with an excuse on why they can still raise the price? 😁

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@Maroxad said:
@Pedro said:
@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Prepare to be disappointed if you believe the Switch 2 is on par with the PS5 Pro.😎

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

Gamers are fickle, the same gamers that Complain Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware, the moment they release info, now it's still not good enough. I have a feeling that Gen 10 is going to be taking both Sony and Microsoft at a different direction than the traditional consoles

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@SolidGame_basic: Do you think Calculator will be backwards compatible with Switch 2, or do you think we'll get a remastered 4K version of it down the line?

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#686 Pedro
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@Maroxad said:

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

Like I said before, prepared to be disappointed just wait.😊

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@jaydan said:

@SolidGame_basic: Do you think Calculator will be backwards compatible with Switch 2, or do you think we'll get a remastered 4K version of it down the line?

Even better, they’ll call it the Switch 2 Version and unlock 60fps.

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@SolidGame_basic said:
@jaydan said:

@SolidGame_basic: Do you think Calculator will be backwards compatible with Switch 2, or do you think we'll get a remastered 4K version of it down the line?

Even better, they’ll call it the Switch 2 Version and unlock 60fps.

60FPS 4K Calculator, GOTY Edition. 😎

That will be $60.

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#689  Edited By Maroxad
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@Pedro said:

Like I said before, prepared to be disappointed just wait.😊

Nah, I know what I am getting. PS4 levels of horsepower with a more "modern" architecture (ampere).

I am already disappointed though, the leap from Gen 8 to gen 9 was underwhelming.

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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Maroxad said:
@Pedro said:
@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Prepare to be disappointed if you believe the Switch 2 is on par with the PS5 Pro.😎

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

Gamers are fickle, the same gamers that Complain Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware, the moment they release info, now it's still not good enough. I have a feeling that Gen 10 is going to be taking both Sony and Microsoft at a different direction than the traditional consoles

I'm sorry but I am completely lost with what you just said...

Your calling gamers fickle because Nintendo doesn't release strong hardware and just now released a console much weaker than the Series S at 2x the price?...

I genuinely believe Nintendo fanboys are fickle by definition saying they don't care about graphics or ports but then try to pass the Switch 2 of as monster and talking about ports which are running worse than any current generation console in terms of visuals and framerates... And when pressed on the point basically pull what you and the user above you responded with.

By definition Nintendo fans are fickle in this thread and forum.

I don't know what you guys are trying to accomplish by trying to convince people that the Switch 2 is powerful when its clearly running games on par with a Steam deck and other handhelds... Which do not give a great experience in AAA games, 1080p low 30fps, which DF has already mention with Hogwarts running at 720p and looking barely better than a PS4 version.

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@Maroxad: 👍

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#694  Edited By FireEmblem_Man
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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Maroxad said:
@Pedro said:
@Maroxad said:

Found another PS5 vs NS2 comparison. Again, the NS2 does look worse. But it looks far better than its specs might suggest.

The extra fidelity on the PS5 Pro vs NS2 is not something I am likely to even notice while playing.

Prepare to be disappointed if you believe the Switch 2 is on par with the PS5 Pro.😎

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

Gamers are fickle, the same gamers that Complain Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware, the moment they release info, now it's still not good enough. I have a feeling that Gen 10 is going to be taking both Sony and Microsoft at a different direction than the traditional consoles

I'm sorry but I am completely lost with what you just said...

Your calling gamers fickle because Nintendo doesn't release strong hardware and just now released a console much weaker than the Series S at 2x the price?...

I genuinely believe Nintendo fanboys are fickle by definition saying they don't care about graphics or ports but then try to pass the Switch 2 of as monster and talking about ports which are running worse than any current generation console in terms of visuals and framerates... And when pressed on the point basically pull what you and the user above you responded with.

By definition Nintendo fans are fickle in this thread and forum.

I don't know what you guys are trying to accomplish by trying to convince people that the Switch 2 is powerful when its clearly running games on par with a Steam deck and other handhelds... Which do not give a great experience in AAA games, 1080p low 30fps, which DF has already mention with Hogwarts running at 720p and looking barely better than a PS4 version.

From the visuals I have been looking into 3rd party games, maybe you should get your eyes checked because most of what they have shown has better visuals than the Series S and almost near parity of the PS5. Not sure how you think it's not nearly the Steam Deck and digital foundry doesn't know squat

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Sheep are crazy 😅

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I honestly don't know why we should be discussing Switch 2 vs Steam Deck as both gaming devices are doing different on their own, not each other. Let's cut the act here. Buying Switch 2 should be for the exclusives and that's it. PC, Steam Deck (or PS5/Xbox Series) should be for everything else.

Gotta agree with Chutebox, Nintendo fans are nuts.

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#697  Edited By Grey_Eyed_Elf
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@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Maroxad said:
@Pedro said:

Prepare to be disappointed if you believe the Switch 2 is on par with the PS5 Pro.😎

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

Gamers are fickle, the same gamers that Complain Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware, the moment they release info, now it's still not good enough. I have a feeling that Gen 10 is going to be taking both Sony and Microsoft at a different direction than the traditional consoles

I'm sorry but I am completely lost with what you just said...

Your calling gamers fickle because Nintendo doesn't release strong hardware and just now released a console much weaker than the Series S at 2x the price?...

I genuinely believe Nintendo fanboys are fickle by definition saying they don't care about graphics or ports but then try to pass the Switch 2 of as monster and talking about ports which are running worse than any current generation console in terms of visuals and framerates... And when pressed on the point basically pull what you and the user above you responded with.

By definition Nintendo fans are fickle in this thread and forum.

I don't know what you guys are trying to accomplish by trying to convince people that the Switch 2 is powerful when its clearly running games on par with a Steam deck and other handhelds... Which do not give a great experience in AAA games, 1080p low 30fps, which DF has already mention with Hogwarts running at 720p and looking barely better than a PS4 version.

From the visuals I have been looking into 3rd party games, maybe you should get your eyes checked because most of what they have shown has better visuals than the Series S and almost near parity of the PS5. Not sure how you think it's not nearly the Steam Deck and digital foundry doesn't know squat

Loading Video...

Yup...

Its missing DOF, Shadows, and is running lower resolution than Series S.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Maroxad said:

Its not.

But what what it does is show is that even though the switch 2 is nowhere near the PS5 pro. We are seeing strong diminishing returns. The sacrifices to the overall experience are minimal.

Reminds me of why I am not updating my 1070 :)

Gamers are fickle, the same gamers that Complain Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware, the moment they release info, now it's still not good enough. I have a feeling that Gen 10 is going to be taking both Sony and Microsoft at a different direction than the traditional consoles

I'm sorry but I am completely lost with what you just said...

Your calling gamers fickle because Nintendo doesn't release strong hardware and just now released a console much weaker than the Series S at 2x the price?...

I genuinely believe Nintendo fanboys are fickle by definition saying they don't care about graphics or ports but then try to pass the Switch 2 of as monster and talking about ports which are running worse than any current generation console in terms of visuals and framerates... And when pressed on the point basically pull what you and the user above you responded with.

By definition Nintendo fans are fickle in this thread and forum.

I don't know what you guys are trying to accomplish by trying to convince people that the Switch 2 is powerful when its clearly running games on par with a Steam deck and other handhelds... Which do not give a great experience in AAA games, 1080p low 30fps, which DF has already mention with Hogwarts running at 720p and looking barely better than a PS4 version.

From the visuals I have been looking into 3rd party games, maybe you should get your eyes checked because most of what they have shown has better visuals than the Series S and almost near parity of the PS5. Not sure how you think it's not nearly the Steam Deck and digital foundry doesn't know squat

Loading Video...

Yup...

Its missing DOF, Shadows, and is running lower resolution than Series S.

Some claiming that NSW2 is like XSS because Street Fighter 6 looks better on NSW2 is dumb. Just as a reminder, PS4 version of Street Fighter 6 also looks better than on XSS.

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@loudheadphones said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

Gamers are fickle, the same gamers that Complain Nintendo doesn't make powerful hardware, the moment they release info, now it's still not good enough. I have a feeling that Gen 10 is going to be taking both Sony and Microsoft at a different direction than the traditional consoles

I'm sorry but I am completely lost with what you just said...

Your calling gamers fickle because Nintendo doesn't release strong hardware and just now released a console much weaker than the Series S at 2x the price?...

I genuinely believe Nintendo fanboys are fickle by definition saying they don't care about graphics or ports but then try to pass the Switch 2 of as monster and talking about ports which are running worse than any current generation console in terms of visuals and framerates... And when pressed on the point basically pull what you and the user above you responded with.

By definition Nintendo fans are fickle in this thread and forum.

I don't know what you guys are trying to accomplish by trying to convince people that the Switch 2 is powerful when its clearly running games on par with a Steam deck and other handhelds... Which do not give a great experience in AAA games, 1080p low 30fps, which DF has already mention with Hogwarts running at 720p and looking barely better than a PS4 version.

From the visuals I have been looking into 3rd party games, maybe you should get your eyes checked because most of what they have shown has better visuals than the Series S and almost near parity of the PS5. Not sure how you think it's not nearly the Steam Deck and digital foundry doesn't know squat

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Its missing DOF, Shadows, and is running lower resolution than Series S.

Some claiming that NSW2 is like XSS because Street Fighter 6 looks better on NSW2 is dumb. Just as a reminder, PS4 version of Street Fighter 6 also looks better than on XSS.

Not to mention that the Series S has a 1440p 30FPS quality mode in Cyberpunk and a 60FPS 1080p mode which run flawless now after patch 2.2.

Where as the Switch has one mode a 40FPS 1080p mode with resolution scaling in handheld where DF measured 540p at worst in the footage they have seen.

540p resolution scaling.

And all we have is cutscene footage and it still can't maintain 1080p in handheld.

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@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@loudheadphones said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:
@Grey_Eyed_Elf said:

I'm sorry but I am completely lost with what you just said...

Your calling gamers fickle because Nintendo doesn't release strong hardware and just now released a console much weaker than the Series S at 2x the price?...

I genuinely believe Nintendo fanboys are fickle by definition saying they don't care about graphics or ports but then try to pass the Switch 2 of as monster and talking about ports which are running worse than any current generation console in terms of visuals and framerates... And when pressed on the point basically pull what you and the user above you responded with.

By definition Nintendo fans are fickle in this thread and forum.

I don't know what you guys are trying to accomplish by trying to convince people that the Switch 2 is powerful when its clearly running games on par with a Steam deck and other handhelds... Which do not give a great experience in AAA games, 1080p low 30fps, which DF has already mention with Hogwarts running at 720p and looking barely better than a PS4 version.

From the visuals I have been looking into 3rd party games, maybe you should get your eyes checked because most of what they have shown has better visuals than the Series S and almost near parity of the PS5. Not sure how you think it's not nearly the Steam Deck and digital foundry doesn't know squat

Loading Video...

Yup...

Its missing DOF, Shadows, and is running lower resolution than Series S.

Some claiming that NSW2 is like XSS because Street Fighter 6 looks better on NSW2 is dumb. Just as a reminder, PS4 version of Street Fighter 6 also looks better than on XSS.

Not to mention that the Series S has a 1440p 30FPS quality mode in Cyberpunk and a 60FPS 1080p mode which run flawless now after patch 2.2.

Where as the Switch has one mode a 40FPS 1080p mode with resolution scaling in handheld where DF measured 540p at worst in the footage they have seen.

540p resolution scaling.

And all we have is cutscene footage and it still can't maintain 1080p in handheld.

You should check this one. Some people had a very rude awakening

https://www.resetera.com/threads/digital-foundry-ps4-is-a-very-natural-point-of-comparison-for-the-switch-2-you-can-expect-a-ps4-level-experience.1163328/

Better PS4 with modern rendering techniques.....and that's it. And of course, at higher fps.