The PS4 pro thread...pro.

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#1  Edited By deactivated-5e0e425ee91d8
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Seems like we could use another central point for PS4 pro discussion. Please keep it all here.

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#2 Legend002
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I can't wait to see the first LE Pro console. Hopefully it's FFXV...

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#3 R4gn4r0k
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Is this the Nintendo NX thread ?

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#4 Draign
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I think everyone has said what theyve had to say about Sonys latest console lol.

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#5 Zero_epyon
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It's been a while since I've seen this happen on SW.

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#6 DaVillain  Moderator
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Should've kept Desmonic's PS4 Pro Thread Sticky.

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#7  Edited By mjorh
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This console lacks identity atm. Let's see how it shapes up to be.

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#8  Edited By DaVillain  Moderator
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Have we made the PS4 Semi-Pro jokes yet? We should make those now.

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#9 Flyincloud1116
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The Pro will just fine. The sun will still rise and Walking Dead will still air on Sundays.

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#10  Edited By Fairmonkey
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PS Pro will be just fine. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt understand how the market and economics work in the video game industry. Yes Scorpio will benefit from power and it will sell off of that and fans of xbox. However, with those rumored specs, it will easily cost $700, $600 being a miracle. The general public cares more about being able to play multiplats at a decent enough performance at a great price instead of emptying their bank accounts again. PS Pro could get a price drop to $350 by Scorpio launch yet still play lower quality but good enough multiplats, have outstanding exclusives like last of us 2, god of war, and countless others unavaiable anywhere, have the most inexpensive VR entry point, and it benefits from the PS4s massive market share dominance. Scorpio will sell but it will be more niche than PS Pro due to its price tag and Playstations current popularity. Scorpio will not outsell PS Pro. Also their is already early evidence of PS Pro being preordered in high numbers on amazon. Dont forget the importance of Price and the ability to play all multiplats at scorpio even at lower quality

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@Zero_epyon said:

It's been a while since I've seen this happen on SW.

You can thank Lems are their salty damage control. The Pro has the internet going crazy, that and Apples ugly new $200 wireless earbuds.

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so much damage control lol laughing my ass of cause some of you fools cant stand the amount of hate sony is getting

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@Fairmonkey said:

PS Pro will be just fine. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt understand how the market and economics work in the video game industry. Yes Scorpio will benefit from power and it will sell off of that and fans of xbox. However, with those rumored specs, it will easily cost $700, $600 being a miracle. The general public cares more about being able to play multiplats at a decent enough performance at a great price instead of emptying their bank accounts again. PS Pro could get a price drop to $350 by Scorpio launch yet still play lower quality but good enough multiplats, have outstanding exclusives like last of us 2, god of war, and countless others unavaiable anywhere, have the most inexpensive VR entry point, and it benefits from the PS4s massive market share dominance. Scorpio will sell but it will be more niche than PS Pro due to its price tag and Playstations current popularity. Scorpio will not outsell PS Pro.

It's gonna come out in like 18 months and obviously, by that time, its parts are gonna be cheaper ...yeah if it was to get released now you could say it would've had a 600-700 price tag but by then, it'll be like 500-600$ and i guess they'd go with 550$ or even 500$

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Earlier today, we reported that some developers may be charged for updates to their games to support the PS4 Pro– however, even if a developer does have to pay for a patch or an update, customers absolutely will not have to. Jacksinthe from AbsintheGames revealed on NeoGAF that any fee for a PS4 Pro update will have to be swallowed by developers and publishers- it absolutely cannot be passed onto customers.

“We are not allowed to charge you for patches or Pro feature updates,” he said. “The “fees” include anything we have to swallow to update our past games for you. The internet can calm down. There is nothing we can do to leverage Pro features or patches with price. Nothing.”

Which… sounds about right, honestly. After all, even regular patches are charged for by Sony (and Microsoft, and Nintendo), but developers never charge customers for them. Any outrage you may have over this needs to be dispelled, and saved for later, when something actually meriting it happens. This is basically the norm for how patches and updates work on consoles.

SOURCE

Patches will not cost anything gamers.

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@Zero_epyon said:

It's been a while since I've seen this happen on SW.

You can thank Lems are their salty damage control. The Pro has the internet going crazy, that and Apples ugly new $200 wireless earbuds.

I'm just surprise this needs a sticky over a PS4 Pro reaction! I can see it now, NX sticky thread ASAP when Nintendo reveals NX.

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@adelbart said:

I see another major meltdown from the delusional Sony fanboys in the future.

All this talk about how the PS4 Pro can compete with the lastest, flagship GPU and CPU hardware makes me giggle.

Who said this? Name em so we can run them out of SW.

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@darkrecon said:

so much damage control lol laughing my ass of cause some of you fools cant stand the amount of hate sony is getting

Manticores like me couldn't careless who wins, lose. We want GAMES!!!

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#19  Edited By emgesp
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@Fairmonkey said:

PS Pro will be just fine. Anyone who says otherwise doesnt understand how the market and economics work in the video game industry. Yes Scorpio will benefit from power and it will sell off of that and fans of xbox. However, with those rumored specs, it will easily cost $700, $600 being a miracle. The general public cares more about being able to play multiplats at a decent enough performance at a great price instead of emptying their bank accounts again. PS Pro could get a price drop to $350 by Scorpio launch yet still play lower quality but good enough multiplats, have outstanding exclusives like last of us 2, god of war, and countless others unavaiable anywhere, have the most inexpensive VR entry point, and it benefits from the PS4s massive market share dominance. Scorpio will sell but it will be more niche than PS Pro due to its price tag and Playstations current popularity. Scorpio will not outsell PS Pro. Also their is already early evidence of PS Pro being preordered in high numbers on amazon. Dont forget the importance of Price and the ability to play all multiplats at scorpio even at lower quality

Yep, its already selling well and I can't wait to get mine in November. A lot of people are selling off their old PS4s. Just check out Ebay. The thirst for better performance is real.

Ebay PS4 sold listings.

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DF says you can't appreciate it unless you actually get one. So they better start putting them demos on stores. Side by side comparison.

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#21  Edited By gago-gago
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Poor PS4 Slim. No one gives a crap about that model. Why did they even release a Slim if the Pro came out like a month after. They could've waited so the Pro includes a 4K drive so it could be considered a real 4K machine like the Xbox One S. But nope, for some reason they're blowing their load and cashing out before the year ended. Man Sony fudging up big time!

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The console is too under powered for native 4K.

My GTX 1070 is more powerful than this and the scorpio and at 4K I cannot run games at ULTRA... Medium-high settings in order to achieve 60FPS and the more easy to run games are no problem at all.

We are going to see a lot of 1440p 30FPS upscaled games with these consoles.

No buy from me thank you. PC a;ready beats them and they aren't even out.

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#23  Edited By iandizion713
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Funny, Buncha caught a bunch of shat for doing this with all the Nintendo threads people were making. My how things change.

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#24 Fairmonkey
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@mjorh: There is no way on gods green earth that the scorpio will be $500. PS Pro is 2x power of ps4 and they didnt include 4k blu ray player to squeeze down price to $400. Scorpio will be between $600-700 realistically

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@iandizion713 said:

Funny, Buncha caught a bunch of shat for doing this with all the Nintendo threads.

As he should have been

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#26  Edited By iandizion713
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@aigis: So how you feel about this one mate? Lol. Just wait, yall aint seen nothing yet, we just getting warmed up. Yall wanted fanboys, so we gave yall what you wanted.

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@flyincloud1116 said:
@adelbart said:

I see another major meltdown from the delusional Sony fanboys in the future.

All this talk about how the PS4 Pro can compete with the lastest, flagship GPU and CPU hardware makes me giggle.

Who said this? Name em so we can run them out of SW.

Not sure if it fits the description, but this is pretty lol worthy.

Because it now looks like either both pc and consoles gamers will all be playing the same shit equally at 4k/60fps or even worse, that console gamers will be playing in 4k while 95% of the "master race" will still be playing 1440p.

how long will console gamers be playing games at 4k while most of us are stuck at 1440p waiting for 1440p/200hz, 4k/100hz, 4k Ultrawide etc.

How do you guys feel about 1440p being the sweet spot for pc gamers now that console gamers will be gaming in 4k? How will it look for the "master race" if the "peasants" are enjoying themselves at higher resolutions?

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#28 Sweetbackhair
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Ahh I was hoping there were 10 more PS4 Pro threads before making a sticky.

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#29  Edited By aigis
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@iandizion713: I don't support consolidating all the threads into a sticky to mitigate hate. I believe in locking clone threads or threads that dont add to the conversation, making a sticky is just stupid imo. I am still against threads like this

@iandizion713 said:

@aigis: So how you feel about this one mate? Lol. Just wait, yall aint seen nothing yet, we just getting warmed up. Yall wanted fanboys, so we gave yall what you wanted.

Thats the essence of System Wars

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@aigis: Cant say i agree, but good to see you still standing strong.

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#31 aigis
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@iandizion713: So you still support it?

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@Fairmonkey said:

@mjorh: There is no way on gods green earth that the scorpio will be $500. PS Pro is 2x power of ps4 and they didnt include 4k blu ray player to squeeze down price to $400. Scorpio will be between $600-700 realistically

We'll see.

There's a thread specific for this discussion, you can check out other opinions as well.

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#34  Edited By iandizion713
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@aigis: Of course, i supported Buncha 100%.

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@Sweetbackhair said:

Ahh I was hoping there were 10 more PS4 Pro threads before making a sticky.

This is why I find it funny that people are insinuating this was to mitigate hate.

For my two cents, the Pro is super underwhelming and I won't be buying. But this is about mitigating spam and shitposting, not hate. Hate away. Within the TOS.

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@iandizion713: I mean this thread

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@aigis: O yeah, i support it.

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#38 aigis
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@darkspineslayer: I dont think you are trying to suppress the hate. I was talking more about Bunchy's thread. I believe that its to suppress spam

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Looks like the masses love it. LOL @ lems and other stupid arguing fanboys on the internet that think that their fanboy bubble reflects reality.

Fact of the matter is that the Pro and Slim PS4s are a great deal and they will both dominate the holidays.

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The PS4 Pro should do well.

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The PS4 Pro is a logical upgrade if you already own a PS4. I'm definitely getting one this fall/

If you don't have a console, well, it's a bit more complicated but it still does well against the Xbox One S and the to be Project Scorpio.

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@iandizion713: Glad you have finally grown up and joined the Xbro's brethren, now drop that crappy Sig and avatar and get a Master Chief Avatar and a Banjo-Kazooie sig!

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Bah I was about to argue with Wasdie about the slim in another thread. You're no fun. :P

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#44 SuperFlyZero
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Why did Buncha get a buncha (pardon) hate and accusations for doin' this but this mod is all roses? Because Sony?

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#45  Edited By iandizion713
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@FireEmblem_Man said:

@iandizion713: Glad you have finally grown up and joined the Xbro's brethren, now drop that crappy Sig and avatar and get a Master Chief Avatar and a Banjo-Kazooie sig!

No sir, this my war paint.

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@quadknight said:

Looks like the masses love it. LOL @ lems and other stupid arguing fanboys on the internet that think that their fanboy bubble reflects reality.

Fact of the matter is that the Pro and Slim PS4s are a great deal and they will both dominate the holidays.

Oh come on, are you really going by Amazon?

Look, im definitely getting one because im tired of the frame rate issues these boxes have, but Amazon is a poor judge of potential sales, always has been.

New product releases ALWAYS shoot to number 1 for a while. The Playstation TV was there for a while, same for Ouya and every other failed electronic device.

If its new with moderate hype...........itll be number one.

Lets stop using Amazon as a guage for anything but new products going on sale.

THats all it means.

WiiU was at the top once too for goodness sakes

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@chikenfriedrice: dat Vengeance

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@iandizion713 said:
@FireEmblem_Man said:

@iandizion713: Glad you have finally grown up and joined the Xbro's brethren, now drop that crappy Sig and avatar and get a Master Chief Avatar and a Banjo-Kazooie sig!

No sir, this my war paint.

hes undercover, shhh

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#50  Edited By iandizion713
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@aigis: O i dont hide. I stand proud of my fanboyism. People wanted war, so i give them war.