The ULTIMATE LAIR - KAMEO comparisson

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#151 GsSanAndreas
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1st off i would like to say wat a Crap job the TC did with this comparison.


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Iuno why i added LittleBigPlanet
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#152 Chack1598
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Man, i hate how thin the GS forums are, kinda getting sick of having to click right button then view image for every one
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#153 3picuri3
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again what is this guy trying to prove ?

i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA

legalize3

 

no you couldn't -- ratchet and clank has some good art and animations but the textures are still sub-par.

and re: Lair -- I don't care how good it looks, it doesn't matter if it plays like Dynasty Warriors et al. if it's boring I don't care how fancy it is -- it's still boring.

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#154 Squall_Griver
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1st off i would like to say wat a Crap job the TC did with this comparison.


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Iuno why i added LittleBigPlanetGsSanAndreas

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#155 3picuri3
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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

Mass Effect is also a stunner, and the latest news of Lost Odyssey suggest the graphics are now, a year and a half after last showing, as good as Gears or better !!!!

Fable 2 also surpasses ALL those games even in this pre-alpha form shown in GDC, with light beams, full 3D grass/trees with individual leaves, full stunning defined shadows, best lighting/HDR EVER etc etc

Alan Wake will be as good as PC version too, and close to what Fable 2 will do, but just not up there

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Great, now can I PLEASE have those lottery numbers for this week like I asked for?

 

:D  Btw, after reading this topic  I've come to realize how absurd SW is.  A person like greg_splicer can argue for HOURS on end about how a game like Goldeneye for N64 looks better than Gears of War.  It's incredibly amusing.

there was a day when mods on these boards were under control - but it appears they've turned their backs lately. where is Casey when you need him :(

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#156 3picuri3
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lol @ whoever posted Ratchet and Clank -- lovely textures, hahaha... this one we call um - yellow, and this one here is um - blue, and around his ears there we've mixed um black and yellow.

do not try to use Ratchet as texture ownage, it has PS2 textures -- R&C is all about the animations, not the textures.

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#157 MikeE21286
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Who the heck made this horrid thread.  Are they serious?  Kameo doesn't look anywhere close to Lair.  This is dumb.
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#158 deepdreamer256
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What the ****?
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#159 greg_splicer
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lol @ whoever posted Ratchet and Clank -- lovely textures, hahaha... this one we call um - yellow, and this one here is um - blue, and around his ears there we've mixed um black and yellow.

do not try to use Ratchet as texture ownage, it has PS2 textures -- R&C is all about the animations, not the textures.

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LBP is not a 3D game, it is a 2.5D game, a SIDE SCROLLER, right ? So we can't compare Kameo with a game that renders 1/1000 of what Kameo renders at each frame R&C really look FAR worst than Kameo too, seems that ALL PS3 games look like garbage !!!
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#160 Lazy_Boy88
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Cartoony art style that looks a lot worse than the screens in reality vs. realistic style that looks far better in the videos.
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#161 greg_splicer
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Who the heck made this horrid thread.  Are they serious?  Kameo doesn't look anywhere close to Lair.  This is dumb.MikeE21286
So, care to prove it by looking at the below pics, because i see like 100 times better textures on walls , mountains and the dragon in Kamo than Lair here
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#162 UKNintendoFreak
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fanboy judge a game by a screenshot

zelda tp  look better than kameo the end

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Are you for real? TP is one ugly game, it surprised me when I found out it was running off the Wind Waker engine. Kameo still looks awesome.  

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#163 greg_splicer
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Who the heck made this horrid thread.  Are they serious?  Kameo doesn't look anywhere close to Lair.  This is dumb.MikeE21286
Does not look anywhere close you say again ? For straters , this is called CONCEPT ART !!!  As for water and grass That water or ...  that one ?    This grass ....   or this one ?
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#164 Nugtoka
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Wow doesn't look like $200. so much for the super computer power of the PS3

what a jip!

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#165 Tnasty11
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greg stop it

 

 

  love it

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#167 carsales
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I'll contribute. Btw  I have both the ps3 and the 360

for me and anyone who comes to my house 360>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>ps3

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#168 greg_splicer
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To make PS3 fanboys admit anything in this forum, would lead to serious need for medical and mental attention, but thanks for the contribution anyway !!!
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#169 Tnasty11
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kameo got a 8.7 hahaha
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#170 greg_splicer
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kameo got a 8.7 hahahaTnasty11
WOW, you fact just made my vision completly change, now i see Lair pics as better, A MIRACLE HAPPENED !!! /sarcasm
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#171 Bgrngod
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I had to open this thread to see what the heck was going on.  Lair vs. Kameo?  Are you serious?

2 year difference.  2 TOTALLY different art styles.  Done and Done.

I am leaving now.

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#172 greg_splicer
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Well different art style means nothing, those Lair mountains, walls etc are FAR worst than Kameo's, not to say VASTLY worst, what does that have to do with .. art style ? So lair art style include crap textures for artistic purposes now?
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#173 Tnasty11
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ff 12 look better than kameo
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#174 greg_splicer
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ff 12 look better than kameoTnasty11
I can agree to that, i think at least we can ALL agree to that, and would be better if you add the word "VASTLY" better
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#175 D_Znuhtz
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Why are we comparing Lair to Kameo? :lol:
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#176 D_Znuhtz
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Well different art style means nothing, those Lair mountains, walls etc are FAR worst than Kameo's, not to say VASTLY worst, what does that have to do with .. art style ? So lair art style include crap textures for artistic purposes now?greg_splicer

"VASTLY worst"? :lol: I won't even touch on what a grammatical train wreck that is, but I will say you're insane. Apparently your eyes work entirely differently than mine do.

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#177 greg_splicer
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[QUOTE="greg_splicer"]Well different art style means nothing, those Lair mountains, walls etc are FAR worst than Kameo's, not to say VASTLY worst, what does that have to do with .. art style ? So lair art style include crap textures for artistic purposes now?D_Znuhtz

"VASTLY worst"? :lol: I won't even touch on what a grammatical train wreck that is, but I will say you're insane. Apparently your eyes work entirely differently than mine do.

It was a JOKE !!! Damn .... poeple in this forum BTW to get this over with, ANYONE that has to say Lair looks better than kameo, show me ANY Lair pic and ANY Kameo pic of those here, and tell me why Lair looks better, because FRANKLY getting zero arguments why the hell you people think Lair looks .. better, just makes all your posts laughable
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#178 Tnasty11
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ff 10 and lair look better than kameo
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#179 him42
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Kameo looks way better than Lair
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#180 Mikerules868
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I dont know what your trying to prove, but PDZ and Kameo look way better on my tv...
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#181 Timstuff
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Kameo is crap and looks like plastic. I wish lemmings could accept it.
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#182 Tnasty11
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what your pont ? kameo looks better than ff7 but ff 7 is best overall
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#183 Timstuff
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what your pont ? kameo looks better than ff7 but ff 7 is best overallTnasty11

Only if you're a lemming. If you're a normal person though it looks like plastic crap.

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#184 greg_splicer
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[QUOTE="Tnasty11"]what your pont ? kameo looks better than ff7 but ff 7 is best overallTimstuff

Only if you're a lemming. If you're a normal person though it looks like plastic crap.

 

At least does not look like a low res textured, blurry crap like Lair and Heavenly Sword

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#185 Amigwo
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Who the heck made this horrid thread.  Are they serious?  Kameo doesn't look anywhere close to Lair.  This is dumb.greg_splicer
Does not look anywhere close you say again ? For straters , this is called CONCEPT ART !!!

 

Real-time Dynamic Physics: Every second of gameplay, Lair renders hundreds of physics effects on everything from your dragon, down to the cloak on an enemy soldier. All enemies and allies have their own physics-driven animations, and have individually programmed ragdolls. Real-time Fluid Dynamics: All of the water effects in Lair, such as waves, are run by real-time fluid dynamics on the Cell.

 You need the SPUs for that. Extensive streaming,if they want do that with 360 they would have to downgrade alot of things

LAIR WATER > CRYSIS,KAMEO!

lair has insane view distance! 20,000 feet view distance as well as the one meter level view at pretty much the same detail level

framerate = resolution, textures, view distance, anti-aliasing

this is all supose to run at 1920x1080 vs 1280Ă—720 kameo? lol kameo at 1080p would choke!!!!!!!

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#186 MoldOnHold
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I think Lair looks good....Kameo just looks better IMO.
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#187 Gamer556
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How can anyone look at those Kameo images and say Lair looks better? I own Kameo, and it looks just as unbelievable as it does in those images. The textures are absurdly detailed, the water effects are incredible, the draw distance is endless, the depth of field looks perfect, and the amount of action on screen can be truly massive (5000+ enemies). The only complaint I can make is Kameo's somewhat blocky character model.

Outside of Gears of War, I don't think there's a better looking game on the market.

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#188 Amigwo
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How can anyone look at those Kameo images and say Lair looks better? I own Kameo, and it looks just as unbelievable as it does in those images. The textures are absurdly detailed, the water effects are incredible, the draw distance is endless, the depth of field looks perfect, and the amount of action on screen can be truly massive (5000+ enemies). The only complaint I can make is Kameo's somewhat blocky character model.

Outside of Gears of War, I don't think there's a better looking game on the market.

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get new glasses...

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#189 dinb
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As someone who owns 30+ xbox games I am in a position to say that yes, Kameo does have some of the best graphics out there. It is one of the few games this gen where I would just stop in parts, rotate the camera and look at the graphics and character modes. Havings said that, anything can happen with Lair.
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#190 dinb
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[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

How can anyone look at those Kameo images and say Lair looks better? I own Kameo, and it looks just as unbelievable as it does in those images. The textures are absurdly detailed, the water effects are incredible, the draw distance is endless, the depth of field looks perfect, and the amount of action on screen can be truly massive (5000+ enemies). The only complaint I can make is Kameo's somewhat blocky character model.

Outside of Gears of War, I don't think there's a better looking game on the market.

Amigwo

get new glasses...

 

He is right... don't make Amigwo mad or you might need a new as* by the time he is done with you! lol

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#191 -Pale
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Oh Nasos... Why do you do this to yourself.
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#192 greg_splicer
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[QUOTE="Gamer556"]

How can anyone look at those Kameo images and say Lair looks better? I own Kameo, and it looks just as unbelievable as it does in those images. The textures are absurdly detailed, the water effects are incredible, the draw distance is endless, the depth of field looks perfect, and the amount of action on screen can be truly massive (5000+ enemies). The only complaint I can make is Kameo's somewhat blocky character model.

Outside of Gears of War, I don't think there's a better looking game on the market.

Amigwo

get new glasses...

It is you that should get new attitude, anyway my pics prove Lair to be a FAR inderior game than Kameo graphically, and yuou know what that means for pS3 , right ?

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#196 greg_splicer
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As someone who owns 30+ xbox games I am in a position to say that yes, Kameo does have some of the best graphics out there. It is one of the few games this gen where I would just stop in parts, rotate the camera and look at the graphics and character modes. Havings said that, anything can happen with Lair.dinb
I agree, in the remaining month, they could completly re-write the crap Lair engine, make waves more belvable than a laughstock comparing to Kameo real time calculated waves, and textures 10x the current resolution in mountains, dragons and walls Well, NOT GOING TO HAPPEN
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#197 Deevoshun
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After all the hpye about Lair and it having crazy AI because of some SPU usage then watching the video I was expecting to see INDIVIDUAL soldiers trying to take down the dragon or its rider but all i saw was a formation of troops getting run over with by a big truck.  Throw in some minor (most likely) repetitive killing animations and you could say I was extreamly dissapointed. 

I was seriously considering purchasing a PS3 for this game, until I saw the videos.  I never realized how bad the textures were until this comparison. wow I really wanted to give Lair the benifit of doubt.  I know the animations on the cloaks and flags will be neat and hopefully they add more to the dragon animations so far they seem bland for next gen.  I do like the the way the ocean looks, wasnt impressed by the sinking/blown-up ships though. 

Anyways, I'll hold off on the PS3 till I see something worth the price tag.  So far X360 is still looking good.

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#198 Squall_Griver
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[QUOTE="MikeE21286"]Who the heck made this horrid thread. Are they serious? Kameo doesn't look anywhere close to Lair. This is dumb.greg_splicer
So, care to prove it by looking at the below pics, because i see like 100 times better textures on walls , mountains and the dragon in Kamo than Lair here



FIXED :D
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#199 greg_splicer
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:), better play a toon looking game with stunning crisp and 10x the ressolution in textures-shaders game like Kameo, where i can enjoy the graphics too, than the blurry low res textures-shaders of the laughable Lair and its graphics
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#200 SergeantSnitch
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It is you that should get new attitude, anyway my pics prove Lair to be a FAR inderior game than Kameo graphically, and yuou know what that means for pS3 , right ?

greg_splicer


I agree Gregory, Lair is the furthest inderior game of them all compared to Kameo.