The ULTIMATE LAIR - KAMEO comparisson
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[QUOTE="legalize3"]again what is this guy trying to prove ?
i can just show my ratchet and clank pics and make this toppic DOA
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go for it - Ratchet would fail any texture war against Kameo.
You've got to be kidding me...
While kameo does have excellent floor textures, the enemy character model looks like crap, and the wall textures look poor as well. R&C looks clean all around, the room is littered with objects and intricate detailing and all of the character-models are excellent. And you can't use the "Kameo character model is bigger and therefore more complex argument, as this pic right here throws that one away.
Those Rachet pics (which do look nice) dont have an HUD, how do we know they are not slightly doctored? It has happened before you know. (Resistance for example) At least the Kameo pics are right off a TVPhoebusFlows
The Kameo pic doesn't have an HUD either. Unless you want to use this pic... (:D)
And besides, 1up has stated in this preview that Ratchet looks even better in motion. If that's not a testament to the visual and artistical strength of Insomniac, then I don't know what is.
[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]Those Rachet pics (which do look nice) dont have an HUD, how do we know they are not slightly doctored? It has happened before you know. (Resistance for example) At least the Kameo pics are right off a TVgreg_splicer
All PS3 pics are doctored, just put some jaggies there in your imagination and you will be fine, still Kameo DESTROYS the surroundings in R&C, but the monster model are indeed better on the PS3 game, as always the case, crap environments but great characters, see FF13
Wrong!
The game looks just as good (or maybe even beter) as its screens. And since the game is still at least 4 months away from release... god****, this game looks amazing!
You mean the flat 2D trees or the horrible art style ? or the flat ground ?
Greg, if you're going to deny that this game looks great, then be my guest. And as for the flat ground... that was done on purpose. Insomniac has chosen to do the entire R&C series with a cartoony feel, and as such the flat ground is intended to resemble anything but realism. And if you think this art-style is horrible... you better get around to shutting up about Kameo, because this blows it out of the water.
I never said it does not look great overall, just not as good as Kameo
That's purely a matter of opinion. And honestly, I've played Kameo. And I know for a fact that this screenshot is actually showing a real section of the game. An unpolished section, but real nonetheless (it's in the kameo demo).
The floor did look slightly better than this, though, but the rest is dead-accurate. However, since Kameo's exteriors look considerably better than its interiors... I'll cut it some slack.
[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]Those Rachet pics (which do look nice) dont have an HUD, how do we know they are not slightly doctored? It has happened before you know. (Resistance for example) At least the Kameo pics are right off a TVa_ratchet_fan
All PS3 pics are doctored, just put some jaggies there in your imagination and you will be fine, still Kameo DESTROYS the surroundings in R&C, but the monster model are indeed better on the PS3 game, as always the case, crap environments but great characters, see FF13
Wrong!
The game looks just as good (or maybe even beter) as its screens. And since the game is still at least 4 months away from release... god****, this game looks amazing!
You mean the flat 2D trees or the horrible art style ? or the flat ground ?
Greg, if you're going to deny that this game looks great, then be my guest. And as for the flat ground... that was done on purpose. Insomniac has chosen to do the entire R&C series with a cartoony feel, and as such the flat ground is intended to resemble anything but realism. And if you think this art-style is horrible... you better get around to shutting up about Kameo, because this blows it out of the water.
I never said it does not look great overall, just not as good as Kameo
That's purely a matter of opinion. And honestly, I've played Kameo. And I know for a fact that this screenshot is actually showing a real section of the game. An unpolished section, but real nonetheless (it's in the kameo demo).
The floor did look slightly better than this, though, but the rest is dead-accurate. However, since Kameo's exteriors look considerably better than its interiors... I'll cut it some slack.
Not really opinion, if you HAD played Kameo you would know that everything felt a bit more next gen than what R&C shows, bar the monsters
[QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]Those Rachet pics (which do look nice) dont have an HUD, how do we know they are not slightly doctored? It has happened before you know. (Resistance for example) At least the Kameo pics are right off a TVgreg_splicer
All PS3 pics are doctored, just put some jaggies there in your imagination and you will be fine, still Kameo DESTROYS the surroundings in R&C, but the monster model are indeed better on the PS3 game, as always the case, crap environments but great characters, see FF13
Wrong!
The game looks just as good (or maybe even beter) as its screens. And since the game is still at least 4 months away from release... god****, this game looks amazing!
You mean the flat 2D trees or the horrible art style ? or the flat ground ?
Greg, if you're going to deny that this game looks great, then be my guest. And as for the flat ground... that was done on purpose. Insomniac has chosen to do the entire R&C series with a cartoony feel, and as such the flat ground is intended to resemble anything but realism. And if you think this art-style is horrible... you better get around to shutting up about Kameo, because this blows it out of the water.
I never said it does not look great overall, just not as good as Kameo
That's purely a matter of opinion. And honestly, I've played Kameo. And I know for a fact that this screenshot is actually showing a real section of the game. An unpolished section, but real nonetheless (it's in the kameo demo).
The floor did look slightly better than this, though, but the rest is dead-accurate. However, since Kameo's exteriors look considerably better than its interiors... I'll cut it some slack.
Not really opinion, if you HAD played Kameo you would know that everything felt a bit more next gen than what R&C shows, bar the monsters
Other than the fact that the stone floor looked a bit more 3D-ish and the effects were really nice... but the effects also look wonderful in R&C as well, so I'd say that the only category that Kameo has the upper hand in is its floor textures. They look pretty darn nice. However, character models, wall textures and a load of other things look like crap. I've played Kameo. It looks pretty damn good, but are easily outperformed by a game such as Lost Planet. Screenshots don't do that game justice... it looks amazing. However, I think that R&C even outperforms LP, because it happens to use a wider color-palette and there's more variety to enemies and environments.
[QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="a_ratchet_fan"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"][QUOTE="PhoebusFlows"]Those Rachet pics (which do look nice) dont have an HUD, how do we know they are not slightly doctored? It has happened before you know. (Resistance for example) At least the Kameo pics are right off a TVa_ratchet_fan
All PS3 pics are doctored, just put some jaggies there in your imagination and you will be fine, still Kameo DESTROYS the surroundings in R&C, but the monster model are indeed better on the PS3 game, as always the case, crap environments but great characters, see FF13
Wrong!
The game looks just as good (or maybe even beter) as its screens. And since the game is still at least 4 months away from release... god****, this game looks amazing!
You mean the flat 2D trees or the horrible art style ? or the flat ground ?
Greg, if you're going to deny that this game looks great, then be my guest. And as for the flat ground... that was done on purpose. Insomniac has chosen to do the entire R&C series with a cartoony feel, and as such the flat ground is intended to resemble anything but realism. And if you think this art-style is horrible... you better get around to shutting up about Kameo, because this blows it out of the water.
I never said it does not look great overall, just not as good as Kameo
That's purely a matter of opinion. And honestly, I've played Kameo. And I know for a fact that this screenshot is actually showing a real section of the game. An unpolished section, but real nonetheless (it's in the kameo demo).
The floor did look slightly better than this, though, but the rest is dead-accurate. However, since Kameo's exteriors look considerably better than its interiors... I'll cut it some slack.
Not really opinion, if you HAD played Kameo you would know that everything felt a bit more next gen than what R&C shows, bar the monsters
Other than the fact that the stone floor looked a bit more 3D-ish and the effects were really nice... but the effects also look wonderful in R&C as well, so I'd say that the only category that Kameo has the upper hand in is its floor textures. They look pretty darn nice. However, character models, wall textures and a load of other things look like crap. I've played Kameo. It looks pretty damn good, but are easily outperformed by a game such as Lost Planet. Screenshots don't do that game justice... it looks amazing. However, I think that R&C even outperforms LP, because it happens to use a wider color-palette and there's more variety to enemies and environments.
No, you clearly have not played Kameo, since it has some of the best wall textures seen to date, best particle and special effects i have seen, best grass/trees millions of times betetr than the 2D in R&C, interacive water as NOTHING before it
I agree about the charatcer models, and NO lost planet is not even close, you probably never played that too
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