The ULTIMATE LAIR - KAMEO comparisson

Here is proof that Kameo water is fully real time calculated, and FAR more interactive than Lair's

greg_splicer

And you suggest what exactly ?greg_splicer

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a_ratchet_fan

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smokeydabear076

You've got to be kidding me.

Greg would basically say that an NES game looks better than anything on the PS3.  If you agree with this statement and deny your fanboyism, you either

a) don't know what a fanboy is or

b) are in extreme denial. 

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smokeydabear076

Yeah, but I dont that Kameo can look this good if it was as big as Lair . Stuff in Kameo clearly starts to get blurry several meters away . That's what I think is the difference between the 360 and the PS3 . The 360 can handle big games better than the 360 (Oblivion) but the 360 handles small areas better . hellraiser_07

PS3 can handle bigger games better ? How so ?  See those mountains in the distance and the fort ? No, they are not getting blurry at all, and are not meters away, but miles

So what if Lair's water is an ocean ? Still Kameo's one is FAR more impressive due to reflection, refractions, real waves and stuff refratced UNDER the water, so why do you insist that Lair's looks better ? It looks mediocre

As for the cartooney art style, i like it better than muddy colors of Lair

And what about the hugle low res textures in mountains - dragons etc etc ? Of course i can give you that until the game does release could see an improvement, has to be a HUGE one though to match Kameos textures and shaders

greg_splicer

why am I not shocked by your response? lol. it is no secret you are the biggest fan boy on this site. If you weren't such a big fanboy, you would see what we have seen of Lair already beats Kameo, and it hasn't even released yet. Lair=realistic type graphics, Kameo=cartoony.They are really too different to compare, but if you must, Lair looks better. There is no arguing with you because facts mean nothing to you. You will continue to defend your point of view til you die even if it makes no sense. I would expect no less from the king of fan boys.

[QUOTE="hellraiser_07"]Yeah, but I dont that Kameo can look this good if it was as big as Lair . Stuff in Kameo clearly starts to get blurry several meters away . That's what I think is the difference between the 360 and the PS3 . The 360 can handle big games better than the 360 (Oblivion) but the 360 handles small areas better . greg_splicer

PS3 can handle bigger games better ? How so ? See those mountains in the distance and the fort ? No, they are not getting blurry at all, and are not meters away, but miles

I post the pics all the time, to clearly see that the textures in mountains and textures on Lair look like GARBAGE comparing, no matter if they are ... toon like and BS

Also Lair is released in a month, and those pics are from latest version shown now, so what alpha and BS areyou peopel talking about, the game is not 6-7 months from release, those graphics are almost final

I post the pics all the time, to clearly see that the textures in mountains and textures on Lair look like GARBAGE comparing, no matter if they are ... toon like and BS

Also Lair is released in a month, and those pics are from latest version shown now, so what alpha and BS areyou peopel talking about, the game is not 6-7 months from release, those graphics are almost final

greg_splicer

when those screenshots were released it was showing alpha builds of the game.

It's currently in an alpha state, development-wise, so there is a lot of time left before the game ships in July.

http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/previews/108748.shtm

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I post the pics all the time, to clearly see that the textures in mountains and textures on Lair look like GARBAGE comparing, no matter if they are ... toon like and BS

Also Lair is released in a month, and those pics are from latest version shown now, so what alpha and BS areyou peopel talking about, the game is not 6-7 months from release, those graphics are almost final

InfamousC

when those screenshots were released it was showing alpha builds of the game.

It's currently in an alpha state, development-wise, so there is a lot of time left before the game ships in July.

http://www.gamepro.com/sony/ps3/games/previews/108748.shtm

Whatever, i will not even ask a link for that, if you have latest greatest pics just post them, if not let's wait

BUT the game has to go gold too, so they do not have until July really, but less, about one more month adding 1-2 weeks in best case, let's see what they can really in 4-6 weeks, that did not so many years now

I post the pics all the time, to clearly see that the textures in mountains and textures on Lair look like GARBAGE comparing, no matter if they are ... toon like and BS

Also Lair is released in a month, and those pics are from latest version shown now, so what alpha and BS areyou peopel talking about, the game is not 6-7 months from release, those graphics are almost final

greg_splicer

Ya know Greg...the more and more and more I see you post nonesense like this, all I can hear you say is...

http://eeuauaughhhuauaahh.ytmnd.com/

kameo proves you have bad taste, it's for losers danneswegman

I can't help but laugh at your sig after you said that....... 

"play the games you like"

greg you are a joke man. posting alpha shots of lair and trying to compare them to kameo.InfamousC

Hey, it never mattered with Halo 3, why should it matter with anything else? 

July

For thtose that still say both Lair and Halo 3 or Mass Effect are alpha

1. Halo 3 is beta and comes in november or later

2. Mass Effect is another 4 months away too

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]greg you are a joke man. posting alpha shots of lair and trying to compare them to kameo.MegaPigeon

Hey, it never mattered with Halo 3, why should it matter with anything else?

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[QUOTE="InfamousC"]greg you are a joke man. posting alpha shots of lair and trying to compare them to kameo.kniveshurt18

Hey, it never mattered with Halo 3, why should it matter with anything else?

I just compare what the hardware can do, the textures, shaders and find them laughable on Lair and HS, comparing to kameo and Gears, that is all, why the hell would you put genres, gameplay, art ****in to this VERY SIMPLE CLEAR comparisson ??

I know it hurts that a 600$ delayed machine has half the graphical power of 360, but you could always NOT BUY it, ok ?

[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"][QUOTE="MegaPigeon"]

[QUOTE="InfamousC"]greg you are a joke man. posting alpha shots of lair and trying to compare them to kameo.greg_splicer

Hey, it never mattered with Halo 3, why should it matter with anything else?

I just compare what the hardware can do, the textures, shaders and find them laughable on Lair and HS, comparing to kameo and Gears, that is all, why the hell would you put genres, gameplay, art ****in to this VERY SIMPLE CLEAR comparisson ??

I know it hurts that a 600$ delayed machine has half the graphical power of 360, but you could always NOT BUY it, ok ?

I just compare what the hardware can do, the textures, shaders and find them laughable on Lair and HS, comparing to kameo and Gears, that is all, why the hell would you put genres, gameplay, art ****in to this VERY SIMPLE CLEAR comparisson ??

I know it hurts that a 600$ delayed machine has half the graphical power of 360, but you could always NOT BUY it, ok ?

greg_splicer

The scope of Lair is much larger, so the comparison fails automatically. Next time, try to compare similar games.hamidious

The ...scope is better ? Ok, i can give you that, the scope of a shooter is better ok, Let's assume we accept that, then you agree than Lair iwns in ....scopre, and Kameo destroys it in textures, lighting, shaders, effects and in water bar the ...scope again

I agree

Also will we stop using games that will be out in 4-6 months like Halo 3 and Mass Effect, Lair is coming in a month, it is not far away

[QUOTE="hamidious"]The scope of Lair is much larger, so the comparison fails automatically. Next time, try to compare similar games.greg_splicer

The ...scope is better ? Ok, i can give you that, the scope of a shooter is better ok, Let's assume we accept that, then you agree than Lair iwns in ....scopre, and Kameo destroys it in textures, lighting, shaders, effects and in water bar the ...scope again

I agree

Also will we stop using games that will be out in 4-6 months like Halo 3 and Mass Effect, Lair is coming in a month, it is not far away

Even still....it is not out yet, lol. By the way, have you even seen the new trailers for Lair? The game looks killer. It is rather easy to find bad screen shots of a game THAT IS NOT EVEN OUT YET, and then post the best screens you can find of a game that has been out for quite sometime, and then claim, "it looks better." Hell, Gears of War has PLENTY of awful, butt ugly, muddy texture SCREENSHOTS....but we all know how beautiful that game turned out graphically in regards to the FINAL PRODUCT, don't we now?

If I were you, I would not be so premature to write Lair off based on a few muddy, lo-res screen shots before the games actual release, or else you may end up eating your words later. And my bet is that you will end up doing just that, after Lair is released with incredible graphics that will be FAR more realistic than Kameo's overbloomed, cartoony, shiny, plastic world graphics. It is beautiful though....just very unrealistic. Lair is going for the REALISTIC approach.

By the way, you said that "the PS3 has HALF of the graphical power of the 360"? :lol: Again, and for the zillionth time in this forum....PS3 has been out 6 months, and the 360 has been out for going on 2 years now. Factor 5, and even TEAM NINJA has stated that the PS3 can do things that the 360 just cannot do, it is just more difficult to develop for. But after devs get used to working with the hardware, games will start to look considerably better on the PS3. They are not the only devs to say that either, and statements made by professionals hold alot more weight than the biased OPINION of some misinformed individual who posts screenshots in System Wars. No offense, man....but it is true. 

I ahve already told you, if you have better pics, you can post them, BUT they will have to be full 720p, deal ? Because ONLY in 720p you can clearly see the garbage last gen low resolution textures and shaders, and compare to Kameo's

thumbnails do not count

And one month is 4 weeks, add 2 more with a slight delay, you suggest in 4-6 weeks the textures af the whole game will become 2x better ?

Why is this thread still going? It is pointless to argue with this guy. He is not a logical person. He is a Fanboy to the extreme and nothing you say or show him will convince him he is wrong. he is good for a laugh, nothing more.mazdero

Ok, i am the not logical one, when there is NOT ONE POST in this thread explaining why anyone thinks Lair is actually as good looking or better than Kameo, i clearly have pics that prove Kameo has 10x the textures and shader resolution, than what the oldgen GPU of PS3 can do in Lair, so what i find not logical is bashing my thread without ANY evidence why what i say is not true

[QUOTE="mazdero"]Why is this thread still going? It is pointless to argue with this guy. He is not a logical person. He is a Fanboy to the extreme and nothing you say or show him will convince him he is wrong. he is good for a laugh, nothing more.greg_splicer

Ok, i am the not logical one, when there is NOT ONE POST in this thread explaining why anyone thinks Lair is actually as good looking or better than Kameo, i clearly have pics that prove Kameo has 10x the textures and shader resolution, than what the oldgen GPU of PS3 can do in Lair, so what i find not logical is bashing my thread without ANY evidence why what i say is not true

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[QUOTE="mazdero"]Why is this thread still going? It is pointless to argue with this guy. He is not a logical person. He is a Fanboy to the extreme and nothing you say or show him will convince him he is wrong. he is good for a laugh, nothing more.kniveshurt18

Ok, i am the not logical one, when there is NOT ONE POST in this thread explaining why anyone thinks Lair is actually as good looking or better than Kameo, i clearly have pics that prove Kameo has 10x the textures and shader resolution, than what the oldgen GPU of PS3 can do in Lair, so what i find not logical is bashing my thread without ANY evidence why what i say is not true

What did i tell you, another one mindless post, and from someone that has not even played Kameo at ll, if you HAD played it, you would know there is no "oversaturation of bloom" just clean, stunning detailed shaded textures, what you say is just fanboy rant to bash something you have never laid eyes on, and ALL my pics here prove you wrong too !!

So, even if Lair has garbage textures, shaders AND HDR, the fact that uses no HDR gives it ... an edge ????

[QUOTE="kniveshurt18"][QUOTE="greg_splicer"]

[QUOTE="mazdero"]Why is this thread still going? It is pointless to argue with this guy. He is not a logical person. He is a Fanboy to the extreme and nothing you say or show him will convince him he is wrong. he is good for a laugh, nothing more.greg_splicer

Ok, i am the not logical one, when there is NOT ONE POST in this thread explaining why anyone thinks Lair is actually as good looking or better than Kameo, i clearly have pics that prove Kameo has 10x the textures and shader resolution, than what the oldgen GPU of PS3 can do in Lair, so what i find not logical is bashing my thread without ANY evidence why what i say is not true

What did i tell you, another one mindless post, and from someone that has not even played Kameo at ll, if you HAD played it, you would know there is no "oversaturation of bloom" just clean, stunning detailed shaded textures, what you say is just fanboy rant to bash something you have never laid eyes on, and ALL my pics here prove you wrong too !!

So, even if Lair has garbage textures, shaders AND HDR, the fact that uses no HDR gives it ... an edge ????

TAG

I want to keep this thread very close so that the TC can eat this words once Lair is released. I am sure all of us here in SW are tired of this guy; 'nuff said.

TAG

 

I want to keep this thread very close so that the TC can eat this words once Lair is released. I am sure all of us here in SW are tired of this guy; 'nuff said.

oceansandearth

Yet another meaningless post, nice

[QUOTE="Roy_Drage"]Well if Lairs gameplay sukks as bad as Rare two latest efforts, then I will be ashamed.     But if the textures aren't quite as good in lair, but the games (unlike both rares latest efforts) are intersting, captivating & fun..Then I guess I'll forgive factor 5 for not having 2.5% better ground textures.  greg_splicer

The thread is OBVIOSULY not about gameplay, but about how much garbage Lair looks comparing to a 2 year old launch 360 title !!!

Also if you want to go to gameplay, i would rather play Kameo or PD0, than a dragon air shooter, that game has me bored right now, imagine playing that

Also yo u should really play Viva Pianata, the gameplay would be like 100 times more addictive than either Lair's or Heavly Sword one

BTW has anyone got those 720p HS pics ? I want a second laugh at PS3 graphics

WTF? Are you blind? The water textures in Lair kick the crap out of those kiddie cartoony water effects in Kameo, and way to use some bad Lair pictures n00b. Man you are a troll.

This threat is like me posting a thread trying to proove that the 360 i more powerful by comparing Gears of war Vs. MobileSuit Gundom. It's a no brainer that looks better.

This topic fails! 

You can't really call it a comparison if you're showing just one completed game to an unfinished game, and then just drop the unfinished game altogether and show the one system's games.

That's no comparison, that's just showing us screenshots of a game.

You can't really call it a comparison if you're showing just one completed game to an unfinished game, and then just drop the unfinished game altogether and show the one system's games.

That's no comparison, that's just showing us screenshots of a game.

topcatyo

And you know why he stopped posting lair pics?  Because he ran out of bad ones.  Now, if he were actually having FAIR comparisons in mind, he would have included these pics:

Notice the innumerable individual bricks on this building?  Notice the particle effects that light up the rest of the screen?  Notice the shiny body-armor?  Notice how they all have shadows?

greg-splicer, if you were actually fair-minded, then you'd be a decent-enough person to show good Lair pics.  But you don't.  Just to show you how unfair you are:

Look at this piece of ****!!!  the floor texture looks horrible, the surrounding wall-textures look 2D and the enemy looks like something out of the PS2 days!

That's essentially what you're doing when you choose Lair pics... you find the worse and act like they're an accurate representation of the final product. 

Kameo looks very great, and I love the PZ0 textures. Amazing that these are launch games.

To people who say HD gaming is worthless, well you're wrong.