The Wii Gets Too Much Hate and To Be Honest, Its Getting Pretty Ridiculous.

Ever since the Wii has launched, it's been getting a lot of hate from the gaming community. I really fail to understand why. Is it because you are no longer the primary demographic? Is it because, God forbid, you're scared to share you favourite hobby with someone who doesn't know much about video games? Ireally fail to see it. People mock the console for having 'crappy' games, when in actuality, it has many quality titles.

Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360.

Thats a key point right there and I honestly think its one point people fail to see.

You will never see the big named titles, like GTAIV, Fallout 3, Metal Gear whathaveyou, Half Life, etc on the console. Its a console for open development. Its a console for developers to take risks due to low development costs and at a good chance of making a profit, to avoid a "free radical" situation ;).

So really, I don't see the hate. I can understand not liking the titles on the console, but to call them 'crap' or even worse ' shovelware' when they really aren't, is getting pretty ridiculous.

The console is here for niche games -- games like Little King's Story, No More Heroes, Zack and Wiki, MadWorld, Fragile, Muramasa: The Demon Blade, Etc.

Those are the games that should be used to define the console. The majority of people ignore the quality titles and seem to think all the system is made up of is this:

Open your eyes and stop being ridiculous. There is a way to go about saying you have no interest in the consoles software versus saying the software is 'crap/shovelware'.

Well a majority of the shovelware being sold is what people are buying 3rd party wise.insanejedi

Agreed for the most part. I like that it provides a completely different experience, it would be much worse if it was just another system providing the 360 / PS3 experience.

Still, considering the recent game drought it is understandable why people trash it. 2009 looks to be much better overall.

No one has to buy those, but I mean if someone is gonna make shovelware, it'll probably be for the Wii.EuroMafia

Agreed for the most part. I like that it provides a completely different experience, it would be much worse if it was just another system providing the 360 / PS3 experience.

Still, considering the recent game drought it is understandable why people trash it. 2009 looks to be much better overall.

Vyyral

No one has to buy those, but I mean if someone is gonna make shovelware, it'll probably be for the Wii.EuroMafia

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]Well a majority of the shovelware being sold is what people are buying 3rd party wise.Haziqonfire

Gameparty 1 million.
Carnival Games 1 million.
Deca Sports 1 million.

Its in the hate circle at the moment

360 (year early!)->PS3 (no games)->360(RROD)->PS3 (haze)

all the wii hate on SW has been building up like a volcano and sheep E3 didnt help much

Agreed for the most part. I like that it provides a completely different experience, it would be much worse if it was just another system providing the 360 / PS3 experience.

Still, considering the recent game drought it is understandable why people trash it. 2009 looks to be much better overall.

Vyyral

In the words of Nasir Jones "Hate what they can't conquer, guess it's just the fury of man."

People hate on the Wii because it's on top.

The Wii, along witht he PS3 get a lot of hate here on the forums...NOT IN REAL WORLD. Forums dont make things real. So just enjoy your console of choice..FunkyHeadHunter

Honnestly, the whole ''we are not in a direct competetion with the PS3 and X360'' is a big bag of BS, why else would they keep comparing themselves with them if they're not even competing them.

Secondly, the Wii does have quality games but sadly other then Okami and Brawl, I fail to see any other quality game on the Wii in 2008. more then 95% of the Wii Library is garbage, I certainly wouldn't want to share Anubis 2andCarnival Games with non-gamers...

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

If you don't want it to be compared to other video game consoles, I don't know what to tell you.

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

The reasons most people dislike it;

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

WAIW

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

If you don't want it to be compared to other video game consoles, I don't know what to tell you.

WAIW

Indeed. Some people forget the huge amount of shovelware the PS2 had. And any decent-good-great Wii title that comes out gets blown off by people on these forums usually.BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

If you don't want it to be compared to other video game consoles, I don't know what to tell you.

Haziqonfire

Not everyone reads everything...

[QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]Indeed. Some people forget the huge amount of shovelware the PS2 had. And any decent-good-great Wii title that comes out gets blown off by people on these forums usually.Man_Bear_Pig_

I'd take Super Mario Galaxy over any game on PS2. No game on PS2 became an instant classic like Super Mario Galaxy did for me. FFX was close, but not quite. Rogue Galaxy was close, but not quite. The Persona games were close, but not quite.

[QUOTE="WAIW"]

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

If you don't want it to be compared to other video game consoles, I don't know what to tell you.

Haziqonfire

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="WAIW"]

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

If you don't want it to be compared to other video game consoles, I don't know what to tell you.

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="WAIW"]

"Now, lets remember one thing -- The Wii was never ment to be in direct competition with the PS3 or the 360."

This is the statement that explains why you don't get it.

People do not dislike it because it's popular. It's not because it has a new controller. It's because the line-up is lackluster compared to the other consoles... Why on Earth would you NOT compare it to the other consoles? They offer the same core experience: video games.

People dislike the Wii because it doesn't get big multiplats. It's graphics are last-gen. There are few games that utilize the Wiimote in an innovative way. The online sucks. Nintendo rehashes franchises as bad as Square Enix.

If you don't want it to be compared to other video game consoles, I don't know what to tell you.

Wolblade

Not everyone reads everything...

[QUOTE="Wolblade"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] As I said in my original post -- The Wii isn't just about the gaming community.Haziqonfire

Not everyone reads everything...

I read your original post the first time.

It doesn't change anything. We're core gamers, we care about what the Wii can offer US, not everyone else. The other guy summed it up pretty well.

[QUOTE="Wolblade"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] As I said in my original post -- The Wii isn't just about the gaming community.Haziqonfire

Not everyone reads everything...

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="Wolblade"]

Not everyone reads everything...

OhSnapitz

[QUOTE="Man_Bear_Pig_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'd take Super Mario Galaxy over any game on PS2. No game on PS2 became an instant classic like Super Mario Galaxy did for me. FFX was close, but not quite. Rogue Galaxy was close, but not quite. The Persona games were close, but not quite.

BioShockOwnz

MGS4 is the same as watching paint dry.:lol: But in its defense, you do get to press a button once every 2 hours.

[QUOTE="Man_Bear_Pig_"][QUOTE="BioShockOwnz"]

I'd take Super Mario Galaxy over any game on PS2. No game on PS2 became an instant classic like Super Mario Galaxy did for me. FFX was close, but not quite. Rogue Galaxy was close, but not quite. The Persona games were close, but not quite.

BioShockOwnz

MGS4 is the same as watching paint dry.:lol: But in its defense, you do get to press a button once every 2 hours.

I guess paint drying get GOTY and 10/10 all in one...

[QUOTE="OhSnapitz"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] Thats their problem.Haziqonfire

The wii is a VG system is it not? It was released this gen was it not? Why would you say it's not in competition? Sure it's core target is the "non-gamer" but it still is competing for sales with the other two platforms. And you say that the wii isn't just about the gaming community.. So please explain to me what you think about XBL, PC streaming, DLC, NetFlix, Bluray movies ect.. The 360 and PS3 are all in one entertainment boxes that offer alot more bang for your buck than the wii. IF they reach a casual market or not doesn't negate what they offer. And generalizing about posters that disagree with you is very fanboyish.. I owned a wii for a short period and disliked what Nintendo gave me, so I sold it. This is experience talking.. I don't care if Nintendo reaches EVERY gamer out there.. Nintendo/M$/Sony don't pay my bills so I have no interest in what they do outside of offering me a great gaming experience.

I guess if you define genuine disappointment as "hate" then yeah, I guess the Wii does get too much hate.

A lot of people, myself included, ran out and bought Wiis early (I got mine at launch) after buying into the enormous hype.I had been to the Nintendo Fusion Tour and there, I was amazed at what that little remote could do and I was excited to buy a Wii at launch. So, as soon as I could reserve one, I got up bright and early and went to my local GameStop. On November 19, 2006, I went to that very same GameStop and picked up my Wii console.

The months passed and I slowly began to lose interest in playing the Wii. Once I'd gotten over the fact that I could swing the remote like a bat to hit a baseball in Wii sports or knock someone unconcious in The Godfather, I found myself going back to the Xbox 360 for the majority of my gaming needs. 2007 was a good year for the Wii but 2008 has been positively barren for the Wii and after getting bored of SSBB (the one game I bought for the system this year) a month or two after I bought it, the Wii has been sitting virtually untouched. The only game I can see myself buying is Mario Kart but from what I've played, Nintendo has done a lot to dumb that game down for casual users. I don't care about sharing my gaming experience with casual gamers because I've been doing that my entire gaming career (you don't honestly believe that the majority of a console's fanbase is comprised of hardcore gamers do you?)

Sadly, 2009 doesn't seem to be any different, as I can't find anything aside from a couple games (Madworld and The Conduit) to get excited for and for a long time now, I've been convinced that my $250 would've been better spent elsewhere, maybe on some games for my Xbox 360 and PS3.

I'm sorry but I'm not going to sugarcoat the fact that the Wii has been a collossal disappointment to me as a gamer. It may be raking in the dough for Nintendo but, as much as I've used it this year, it amounts to little more than an expensive paperweight.

Indeed. Some people forget the huge amount of shovelware the PS2 had. And any decent-good-great Wii title that comes out gets blown off by people on these forums usually.BioShockOwnz

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="insanejedi"]Well a majority of the shovelware being sold is what people are buying 3rd party wise.insanejedi

Gameparty 1 million.
Carnival Games 1 million.
Deca Sports 1 million.

Three.

I'm convinced.

[QUOTE="insanejedi"]

[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] Proof? Shovelware rarely sells well.Willy105

Gameparty 1 million.
Carnival Games 1 million.
Deca Sports 1 million.

Three.

I'm convinced.

So why don't you give us three good third party games that sold more than a million?

Totally agreed. The Wii is just another videogame console, same as the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Even if the Wii doesn't has HD video or audio, it delivers better graphics than 6th generation consoles. Other thing Wii haters must take in consideration is that the Wii is more oriented to non-gamers, so why would you want another PS3 or 360 in the market!? Another thing that favors the Wii is its capability to support more games from other consoles than the PS3 (PSOne games & PS2 games in the earlier versions) or the 360 (doesn't supports yet all Xbox titles). With a Wii, you can use ALL GameCube games; and download N64's, SNES', NES', EVEN SEGA Genesis/Megadrive games!

If I were to make major critics to the developers of Wii games is that they aren't making overall quality develpoments. Many of the Wii-oriented complaints are due to problems with motion controls. There are games that make great use of motion controls (i.e. COD5, Prime 3: Corruption...), and their developers were commited to develop a quality game (either for cash, reputation or respect for traditional gamers). The other problems that many view on the Wii are mostly due to the Wii's orientation. As I analyze it, casual crybaby traditional gamers are the ones that complain mostly about the Wii because they are the public Nintendo isn't currently interested on.

Totally agreed. The Wii is just another videogame console, same as the PS3 and the Xbox 360. Even if the Wii doesn't has HD video or audio, it delivers better graphics than 6th generation consoles. Other thing Wii haters must take in consideration is that the Wii is more oriented to non-gamers, so why would you want another PS3 or 360 in the market!? Another thing that favors the Wii is its capability to support more games from other consoles than the PS3 (PSOne games & PS2 games in the earlier versions) or the 360 (doesn't supports yet all Xbox titles). With a Wii, you can use ALL GameCube games; and download N64's, SNES', NES', EVEN SEGA Genesis/Megadrive games!

If I were to make major critics to the developers of Wii games is that they aren't making overall quality develpoments. Many of the Wii-oriented complaints are due to problems with motion controls. There are games that make great use of motion controls (i.e. COD5, Prime 3: Corruption...), and their developers were commited to develop a quality game (either for cash, reputation or respect for traditional gamers). The other problems that many view on the Wii are mostly due to the Wii's orientation. As I analyze it, casual crybaby traditional gamers are the ones that complain mostly about the Wii because they are the public Nintendo isn't currently interested on.

DragonxanderPR

No one's asking for another PS3 or 360, they're asking for the same amount of quality games.