Glad to have set you in place. No, I kid. :P Bringing up the Dreamcast actually made me think back quite a bit, it was a good point -- but there were other factors. :)That was actually a good read.
I just wanted you to know that yes I did read that so you didn't think you typed up that whole thing for nothing. :P
AlexSays
The Wii Gets Too Much Hate and To Be Honest, Its Getting Pretty Ridiculous.
This topic is locked from further discussion.
Again.
All that is happening here is 360 arguers are just causing Wii players to lose interest in the 360 and beginnig to hate the type of people that are associating with it. (Making it easier to hate its community can make it harder to associate with a given item/service) Even if folks like me have one in our household.
Your list of games certainly fails save DeBlob (so I'm not sure if that was supposed to impress someone or if you were just joking), but I think I'll keep it. thanks. there were a few 2009 titles I am looking forward to. Besides, someone else can buy one new for less than what they'd pay for mine. ;) and for future reference, the "sell your console" approach isn't a very valid one. doesn't support your argument in the slightest. only reminds people that you don't have an argument at all and are looking for a way to spin and misdirect your way away from the core issue. Sorry if the truth hurts. Instead of crying about the truth, how about hoping that the truth changes like the rest of us? oh no. the fanboyism won't stand for it, will it?Dreams-VisionsBeing unable to branch out into other genres or trying to find a way of dismissing games outright is a sign of close mindedness. I'll let people here decide if that's one trait of a fanboy.
With that being established I'd call for a look in the mirror if one is going to start handing out fanboy label tokens. Wouldn't you say?
Aimed? No. Nintedo seems to be the only company this generation that is focusing entirely on the casual market. While Microsoft and Sony are trying their best to get a piece of Nintendo's pie, they seem to understand a thing or two about balance.The_Game21xI've already explained on page 23 why this close minded thinking fails. Your system is in the same sin as everyone else if what is done is sin.
Again. Look in the mirror.
Anyone here owning a wii only console and over 18 here needs to rethink what gaming is all about.This thread isn't for those who only have a Wii. It's to stop the lower forms of labeling and un-debate that's going on here. Something a crackdown should've prevented if they'd mod correctly around here. (Try to do the labeling that goes on here on an official game board and see how far you get)Its clear most people here love their wii so much to deny that the wii is primarily a casual console, ie the ones mothers and middle age women to toddlers play.
Wii is selling like hotcakes, too bad the amount of games releasing are not as hot.
At the start, wii was fun to play, especially with friends. But the fad dies away quickly and your playing alone collecting stars and waving the wiimote..catch my drift.
In terms of gaming in general, the isnt helping much. I dont think developers dont put in the effort much as long as it sells.
Anyways, this is system wars, defend your console as much as you like, is only showing that your desperate, have less games to play, and justifying your purchase.
Nintendo should 'man up' and use the money theyve gained to make a REAL next gen console at the likes that tell crysis, halo and killzone users to move aside.
Anything like this.First of all, yay for you for playing wii. Who cares how old you are and what you play.
To each to their own.
Secondly, youre denying the fact that clearly the ps3 and 360 outpower and outperform in terms of an entertainment system?
Out of all the banter, at least you mentioned gta4 was hot.If you like wii so much, why are you defending it?
In terms of gaming, how do you differentiate playing halo 4 co-op to wii music? Which would you choose and why would choose it? It could be dependent on your life**** like am into my cars and i like my racing games playing with my friends. Sometimes what you play shows what your interested in.
Maybe you should 'man up' and stop trying to save the princess over and over again. Or do you play racing games, or shooters? Because they kinda are games like that on 360 and ps3.
All i see coming from you is a nintendo fanboy. I can tell you one thing, ive sure have played nintendo games than you, and the route they have taken now, is different to how they used to. The gc is still better than the wii, even if it has the wiimote.
My point is, wii is not that great, out of the three. Sales dont necessarily mean its the perfect console to own. And am bored with my wii and i hope for a REAL nintendo console that delivers an all round system. At least sony and microsoft have the balls to loose some money on each console they make.g0ddyX
If you've played math games on Coleco and used its pad then you have no credibility to start harping against any control scheme. By the logic displayed here anyway we'd still be using those same ridiculous Coleco pads as main controllers. No thanks. Same applies if you've played any game like Mario in the past.
You're the one who brought up age so either shut up or let others continue countering your stupid age group stereotype. I'm 31, male, and play. I don't fit your stereotype.
The recession was yet to be felt in late 06 of its release but to even encourage losing of money in today's enviroment is just plain lunacy and there's no way you can come on here trying to make that sound as sensible. I should say a depression that goverments don't want to admit yet but that's not gaming related. You'd have no future systems or games if everyone went bankrupt under your absurd scheme in any case.
I've already explained on page 23 why this close minded thinking fails. Your system is in the same sin as everyone else if what is done is sin.[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Aimed? No. Nintedo seems to be the only company this generation that is focusing entirely on the casual market. While Microsoft and Sony are trying their best to get a piece of Nintendo's pie, they seem to understand a thing or two about balance.scorpion88057
Again. Look in the mirror.
He's incorrect in believing that's ALL Nintendo cares for, though this year has given me incite to just WHOM Nintendo truly is aiming for -- regardless, the causal market and the non-gamer market is Nintendo's MAIN demographic, not the only, but the MAIN demographic. I've been stating this since 2006, and I will continue to do so unless the variables change, which they most likely never will.
I've already explained on page 23 why this close minded thinking fails. Your system is in the same sin as everyone else if what is done is sin.[QUOTE="The_Game21x"]Aimed? No. Nintedo seems to be the only company this generation that is focusing entirely on the casual market. While Microsoft and Sony are trying their best to get a piece of Nintendo's pie, they seem to understand a thing or two about balance.scorpion88057
Again. Look in the mirror.
Well, let me put it this way.
Even if Microsoft and Sony are committing the same sin, it doesn't matter to me since I'm still getting the games I enjoy playing on the Xbox 360 and Playstation 3 while the same cannot be said for the Wii.
You have to ask yourself this: why does anyone hate on any system?
Because in their opinion, it sucks.
It just so happens that alot of people have the opinion that Wii sucks, like me. So no Wii doesn't get too much hate. Each console gets the exact right amount of hate, because that's just how things are. Don't like it? Don't come onto SW. It's that simple.
I've already stated what the thread was about probably two times already.You have to ask yourself this: why does anyone hate on any system?
Because in their opinion, it sucks.
It just so happens that alot of people have the opinion that Wii sucks, like me. So no Wii doesn't get too much hate. Each console gets the exact right amount of hate, because that's just how things are. Don't like it? Don't come onto SW. It's that simple.Heydanbud92
No system is getting plugged with kiddy and Japanese stereotypes like the Wii is.
Your theory about leaving System Wars and it will all go away is fine and dandy but it's not true. We're starting to see this attitude on other sites even though they're being moderated. It's still divides gamers when that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It was never divided like this before and things were happier before sites started trying to profit off of misery.
[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]It's been proven in this forum that the first 2 years of the PS2 had a greater number of high quality games than the current wii library. AlexSaysAnd that means exactly that. Unfortunately using the first two years of any console to accurately depict it's entire lifespan is absolutely crazy. Unless people on this site have a crystal ball I don't, there's no way of knowing what the future holds in store for any console. And to whoever started this, comparing the Wii to a system which arguably had the most quality games of any system ever is a little child/fanboyish. That's like saying my Elantra sucks because it only gets 30 miles per gallon, compared to the Prius which gets 40. Likewise I could say the Wii has a great lineup compared to that of the Virtual Boy's.
nobody is bashing wii's entire liespan, we're just bashing how it's performed so far.
[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]I've already stated what the thread was about probably two times already.You have to ask yourself this: why does anyone hate on any system?
Because in their opinion, it sucks.
It just so happens that alot of people have the opinion that Wii sucks, like me. So no Wii doesn't get too much hate. Each console gets the exact right amount of hate, because that's just how things are. Don't like it? Don't come onto SW. It's that simple.scorpion88057
No system is getting plugged with kiddy and Japanese stereotypes like the Wii is.
Your theory about leaving System Wars and it will all go away is fine and dandy but it's not true. We're starting to see this attitude on other sites even though they're being moderated. It's still divides gamers when that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It was never divided like this before and things were happier before sites started trying to profit off of misery.
either pull up your pants and deal with it or move along. the attitude didn't come out of the clear blue sky. it's come because gamers--like many of us here--have tried the Wii and are still waiting for games that appeal to us. it doesn't help when Nintendo makes Wii Music and it doesn't say much for the userbase when WiiPlay is among the top selling. it tells you a lot about the gamers of the console in general. until the Wii gets some legit games from some legit 3rd party companies at a better pace than 1 every 6 months, it will continue to draw our ire. Understand, we don't hate the platform; we hate the lack of good games appearing on said platform. and in the case of the Wii, we hate how bad the Wii looks on HDTVs and lamer-than-last-gen online solution (last gen's Xbox had a much more competent online service).[QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]I've already stated what the thread was about probably two times already.You have to ask yourself this: why does anyone hate on any system?
Because in their opinion, it sucks.
It just so happens that alot of people have the opinion that Wii sucks, like me. So no Wii doesn't get too much hate. Each console gets the exact right amount of hate, because that's just how things are. Don't like it? Don't come onto SW. It's that simple.scorpion88057
No system is getting plugged with kiddy and Japanese stereotypes like the Wii is.
Your theory about leaving System Wars and it will all go away is fine and dandy but it's not true. We're starting to see this attitude on other sites even though they're being moderated. It's still divides gamers when that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It was never divided like this before and things were happier before sites started trying to profit off of misery.
No system is getting plugged with the amount of kiddy and japanese games that the Wii is either.
Could there be some kind of correlation. :o
1. Tiny Memory
I filled mine up after six months and got tired of always having to make room every time I wanted to download something. It is a hassle, especially when the other systems offer large, convenient memory. But, according to Nintendo, large memory space "is for geeks." It doesn't matter if they apologized for the comment. It showed their true colors. The damage has been done. It goes to show you how smug Nintendo is these days sitting on top of their mountain of money to insult a large percentage of their fans.
2. Gimmicky, Poorly-designed Motion Controls
Blame it on whoever you want- developers or Nintendo itself. It doesn't change the fact that the majority of games for the Wii suck strictly because of the motion controls. To prove it further, Nintendo is set to release the "Motion-Plus," which is basically a repair to a faulty control scheme. With this, entire genres of games are missing from the Wii because Nintendo's dependency on the motion controls. Where are the basketball games, the wrestling games, fighting games?
3. Misleading Marketing about the Virtual Console
When Nintendo first began marketing the Wii before it's release, they said that there would be three games released each week. Not one. Not seven. Three. For the past five weeks, Nintendo has only released one game a week, as they have during other weeks earlier this year. With this, they failed to also mention that the Virtual Console would be devoid of any licensed games (a HUGE portion, including any movie, comic, official sports, etc.) and any other games that happen to be on other consoles or remade on the DS. Many people bought a Wii for the Virtual Console according to the original marketing and many people have been left deeply disappointed.
4. Towering Mountains of Shovelware
Never before in history has a system has so many poorly reviewed games in comparison with quality games. All one must do is stand before the Wii shelves at the local Gamestop. It's laughable. The number of quality games are so few that on the major gaming web site's Top Ten most viewed Wii games, the same games have appeared for a year- Smash Bros., Mario Kart, Wii Fit (is that even a video game?)
5. Weak Hardware
Epic games like Fallout, GTA, Street Fighter 4 will never see the light of day on the Wii. As reported by Capcom, the Wii "can't handle Resident Evil 5's Title Screen." Remember that commercial with the ditzy, skinny blonde chic representing the Wii and the fat girl as the PS3? Ironic, isn't it? Yeah, the Wii is a toy. A pea-brained, irritating, disappointing toy.
6. Fluff
Wii-motes, nunchuks, Classic Controllers, Motion Plus add-ons, steering wheels, spatulas...Spatulas?!
7. Most of the "Good Games" aren't even that Good.
Zelda: TP sucked. The graphics were horrible and it brought nothing novel or original to the series.
Super Paper Mario was one of the biggest abominations to a video game series in history. They took the one aspect that made Paper Mario fun and original- the turn-based combat on a stage with crowd appeal and sacrificed it for a gimmicky motion-controlled nothing that was more irritating than anything. Horrible, just horrible.
Metroid Prime 3: Pure rehash.
Mario Kart: More rehash with gimmicky controls.
Animal Crossing: Almost an exact clone of its predecessor.
I've been playing video games for twenty years. I have bought almost all the major consoles during that time. I was a die-hard fan of Nintendo and defended them during the N64 days when everyone was jumping on the PS CD wagon. I have never experienced more disapointment in video gaming than I have with the Nintendo Wii. It's a peice of crap from top to bottom.
[QUOTE="scorpion88057"][QUOTE="Heydanbud92"]I've already stated what the thread was about probably two times already.You have to ask yourself this: why does anyone hate on any system?
Because in their opinion, it sucks.
It just so happens that alot of people have the opinion that Wii sucks, like me. So no Wii doesn't get too much hate. Each console gets the exact right amount of hate, because that's just how things are. Don't like it? Don't come onto SW. It's that simple.Heydanbud92
No system is getting plugged with kiddy and Japanese stereotypes like the Wii is.
Your theory about leaving System Wars and it will all go away is fine and dandy but it's not true. We're starting to see this attitude on other sites even though they're being moderated. It's still divides gamers when that shouldn't be happening in the first place. It was never divided like this before and things were happier before sites started trying to profit off of misery.
No system is getting plugged with the amount of kiddy and japanese games that the Wii is either.
Could there be some kind of correlation. :o
it's beyond just correlation. it's causation. only hardcore Sheep pretend it doesn't exist.epic post is epic. I must co-sign this ownage. however, Metroid Prime 3 was one of my top 10 games this generation. except for that HORRIBLE ending, I loved it.1. Tiny Memory
I filled mine up after six months and got tired of always having to make room every time I wanted to download something. It is a hassle, especially when the other systems offer large, convenient memory. But, according to Nintendo, large memory space "is for geeks." It doesn't matter if they apologized for the comment. It showed their true colors. The damage has been done. It goes to show you how smug Nintendo is these days sitting on top of their mountain of money to insult a large percentage of their fans.
2. Gimmicky, Poorly-designed Motion Controls
Blame it on whoever you want- developers or Nintendo itself. It doesn't change the fact that the majority of games for the Wii suck strictly because of the motion controls. To prove it further, Nintendo is set to release the "Motion-Plus," which is basically a repair to a faulty control scheme. With this, entire genres of games are missing from the Wii because Nintendo's dependency on the motion controls. Where are the basketball games, the wrestling games, fighting games?
3. Misleading Marketing about the Virtual Console
When Nintendo first began marketing the Wii before it's release, they said that there would be three games released each week. Not one. Not seven. Three. For the past five weeks, Nintendo has only released one game a week, as they have during other weeks earlier this year. With this, they failed to also mention that the Virtual Console would be devoid of any licensed games (a HUGE portion, including any movie, comic, official sports, etc.) and any other games that happen to be on other consoles or remade on the DS. Many people bought a Wii for the Virtual Console according to the original marketing and many people have been left deeply disappointed.
4. Towering Mountains of Shovelware
Never before in history has a system has so many poorly reviewed games in comparison with quality games. All one must do is stand before the Wii shelves at the local Gamestop. It's laughable. The number of quality games are so few that on the major gaming web site's Top Ten most viewed Wii games, the same games have appeared for a year- Smash Bros., Mario Kart, Wii Fit (is that even a video game?)
5. Weak Hardware
Epic games like Fallout, GTA, Street Fighter 4 will never see the light of day on the Wii. As reported by Capcom, the Wii "can't handle Resident Evil 5's Title Screen." Remember that commercial with the ditzy, skinny blonde chic representing the Wii and the fat girl as the PS3? Ironic, isn't it? Yeah, the Wii is a toy. A pea-brained, irritating, disappointing toy.
6. Fluff
Wii-motes, nunchuks, Classic Controllers, Motion Plus add-ons, steering wheels, spatulas...Spatulas?!
7. Most of the "Good Games" aren't even that Good.
Zelda: TP sucked. The graphics were horrible and it brought nothing novel or original to the series.
Super Paper Mario was one of the biggest abominations to a video game series in history. They took the one aspect that made Paper Mario fun and original- the turn-based combat on a stage with crowd appeal and sacrificed it for a gimmicky motion-controlled nothing that was more irritating than anything. Horrible, just horrible.
Metroid Prime 3: Pure rehash.
Mario Kart: More rehash with gimmicky controls.
Animal Crossing: Almost an exact clone of its predecessor.
I've been playing video games for twenty years. I have bought almost all the major consoles during that time. I was a die-hard fan of Nintendo and defended them during the N64 days when everyone was jumping on the PS CD wagon. I have never experienced more disapointment in video gaming than I have with the Nintendo Wii. It's a peice of crap from top to bottom.
Elbowsmash
either pull up your pants and deal with it or move along. the attitude didn't come out of the clear blue sky. it's come because gamers--like many of us here--have tried the Wii and are still waiting for games that appeal to us. it doesn't help when Nintendo makes Wii Music and it doesn't say much for the userbase when WiiPlay is among the top selling. it tells you a lot about the gamers of the console in general. until the Wii gets some legit games from some legit 3rd party companies at a better pace than 1 every 6 months, it will continue to draw our ire. Understand, we don't hate the platform; we hate the lack of good games appearing on said platform. and in the case of the Wii, we hate how bad the Wii looks on HDTVs and lamer-than-last-gen online solution (last gen's Xbox had a much more competent online service). Dreams-VisionsSince you want to resort to that I'd answer either shut up or move along if you continue supporting the low-based arguments, "shovelware", and "crap" repitition. Not going beyond that is just clinging to hate and that's all it is. If one cares about clinging to credibility anyway.
Try for how long is always in the eye of the beholder.
Since you want to resort to that I'd answer either shut up or move along if you continue supporting the low-based arguments, "shovelware", and "crap" repitition. Not going beyond that is just clinging to hate and that's all it is. If one cares about clinging to credibility anyway.[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]either pull up your pants and deal with it or move along. the attitude didn't come out of the clear blue sky. it's come because gamers--like many of us here--have tried the Wii and are still waiting for games that appeal to us. it doesn't help when Nintendo makes Wii Music and it doesn't say much for the userbase when WiiPlay is among the top selling. it tells you a lot about the gamers of the console in general. until the Wii gets some legit games from some legit 3rd party companies at a better pace than 1 every 6 months, it will continue to draw our ire. Understand, we don't hate the platform; we hate the lack of good games appearing on said platform. and in the case of the Wii, we hate how bad the Wii looks on HDTVs and lamer-than-last-gen online solution (last gen's Xbox had a much more competent online service). scorpion88057
Try for how long is always in the eye of the beholder.
lol, clinging to hate? I have all the Wii's best games. it's just weak right now. whether you accept the truth or not is none of my concern. it doesn't change the reality; it just shows how out of touch you are.Since you want to resort to that I'd answer either shut up or move along if you continue supporting the low-based arguments, "shovelware", and "crap" repitition. Not going beyond that is just clinging to hate and that's all it is. If one cares about clinging to credibility anyway.[QUOTE="Dreams-Visions"]either pull up your pants and deal with it or move along. the attitude didn't come out of the clear blue sky. it's come because gamers--like many of us here--have tried the Wii and are still waiting for games that appeal to us. it doesn't help when Nintendo makes Wii Music and it doesn't say much for the userbase when WiiPlay is among the top selling. it tells you a lot about the gamers of the console in general. until the Wii gets some legit games from some legit 3rd party companies at a better pace than 1 every 6 months, it will continue to draw our ire. Understand, we don't hate the platform; we hate the lack of good games appearing on said platform. and in the case of the Wii, we hate how bad the Wii looks on HDTVs and lamer-than-last-gen online solution (last gen's Xbox had a much more competent online service). scorpion88057
Try for how long is always in the eye of the beholder.
Gee, I wish there was a term for all those games that the developers clearly made no effort on. You know, the poorly made ones based on cheap, quick fun that may cost full price but are worth about 10 percent of it? ... Oh I know, let's call them "shovelware."
As long as quality exists games with poor quality will exist.
The wii just happens to have a lot of poor quality games.
lol, clinging to hate? I have all the Wii's best games. it's just weak right now. whether you accept the truth or not is none of my concern. it doesn't change the reality; it just shows how out of touch you are.Dreams-VisionsBest is always opinion and always subjective. Even if you have games and played them all the way through then you're just showing signs of wanting to divide and troll conqueor gamers. (If there's a best you had/have something to play) As I said clinging to hate.
I don't remember saying whether or not 08 was weak anyway but apparently you've seen fit to dub so. Another fanboy trait to tack on the inability to try genres?
I'll return the "out of reality torch" right back to ya. On second that I'll just be waving my hand at your outstretched handed offer.
[QUOTE="Elbowsmash"]epic post is epic. I must co-sign this ownage. however, Metroid Prime 3 was one of my top 10 games this generation. except for that HORRIBLE ending, I loved it. Bow down to the post to end all and watch sheep bring up sales again....1. Tiny Memory
I filled mine up after six months and got tired of always having to make room every time I wanted to download something. It is a hassle, especially when the other systems offer large, convenient memory. But, according to Nintendo, large memory space "is for geeks." It doesn't matter if they apologized for the comment. It showed their true colors. The damage has been done. It goes to show you how smug Nintendo is these days sitting on top of their mountain of money to insult a large percentage of their fans.
2. Gimmicky, Poorly-designed Motion Controls
Blame it on whoever you want- developers or Nintendo itself. It doesn't change the fact that the majority of games for the Wii suck strictly because of the motion controls. To prove it further, Nintendo is set to release the "Motion-Plus," which is basically a repair to a faulty control scheme. With this, entire genres of games are missing from the Wii because Nintendo's dependency on the motion controls. Where are the basketball games, the wrestling games, fighting games?
3. Misleading Marketing about the Virtual Console
When Nintendo first began marketing the Wii before it's release, they said that there would be three games released each week. Not one. Not seven. Three. For the past five weeks, Nintendo has only released one game a week, as they have during other weeks earlier this year. With this, they failed to also mention that the Virtual Console would be devoid of any licensed games (a HUGE portion, including any movie, comic, official sports, etc.) and any other games that happen to be on other consoles or remade on the DS. Many people bought a Wii for the Virtual Console according to the original marketing and many people have been left deeply disappointed.
4. Towering Mountains of Shovelware
Never before in history has a system has so many poorly reviewed games in comparison with quality games. All one must do is stand before the Wii shelves at the local Gamestop. It's laughable. The number of quality games are so few that on the major gaming web site's Top Ten most viewed Wii games, the same games have appeared for a year- Smash Bros., Mario Kart, Wii Fit (is that even a video game?)
5. Weak Hardware
Epic games like Fallout, GTA, Street Fighter 4 will never see the light of day on the Wii. As reported by Capcom, the Wii "can't handle Resident Evil 5's Title Screen." Remember that commercial with the ditzy, skinny blonde chic representing the Wii and the fat girl as the PS3? Ironic, isn't it? Yeah, the Wii is a toy. A pea-brained, irritating, disappointing toy.
6. Fluff
Wii-motes, nunchuks, Classic Controllers, Motion Plus add-ons, steering wheels, spatulas...Spatulas?!
7. Most of the "Good Games" aren't even that Good.
Zelda: TP sucked. The graphics were horrible and it brought nothing novel or original to the series.
Super Paper Mario was one of the biggest abominations to a video game series in history. They took the one aspect that made Paper Mario fun and original- the turn-based combat on a stage with crowd appeal and sacrificed it for a gimmicky motion-controlled nothing that was more irritating than anything. Horrible, just horrible.
Metroid Prime 3: Pure rehash.
Mario Kart: More rehash with gimmicky controls.
Animal Crossing: Almost an exact clone of its predecessor.
I've been playing video games for twenty years. I have bought almost all the major consoles during that time. I was a die-hard fan of Nintendo and defended them during the N64 days when everyone was jumping on the PS CD wagon. I have never experienced more disapointment in video gaming than I have with the Nintendo Wii. It's a peice of crap from top to bottom.
Dreams-Visions
[QUOTE="SapSacPrime"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] Proof? Shovelware rarely sells well.HaziqonfireRed Steel was one of the first games to top 1 million :| I would class that as shovelware. Red Steel was not shovelware ... :|Exactly. What's sad is they can't decide what is to included in their term to compliment their divide and troll efforts.
[QUOTE="Haziqonfire"][QUOTE="SapSacPrime"] Red Steel was one of the first games to top 1 million :| I would class that as shovelware.scorpion88057Red Steel was not shovelware ... :|Exactly. What's sad is they can't decide what is to included in their term to compliment their divide and troll efforts.
Red Steel only sold so much because it was one of the first available games at launch of the Wii. People bought Wii's and naturally a game or two along with it. Red Steel was there. It has nothing to do with whether or not it is a quality game. It sold because of timing.
BTW, Red Steel was horrible.
[QUOTE="monkeytoes61"][QUOTE="Deiuos"]Anything popular, and even more ... anything DIFFERENT, is going to get hit upon. Suck it up.rockguy92Like the New England Patriots. People can't stand to see things succeed, so they bash it. I was going for New England last year.One of few.
1. Tiny Memory
I filled mine up after six months and got tired of always having to make room every time I wanted to download something. It is a hassle, especially when the other systems offer large, convenient memory. But, according to Nintendo, large memory space "is for geeks." It doesn't matter if they apologized for the comment. It showed their true colors. The damage has been done. It goes to show you how smug Nintendo is these days sitting on top of their mountain of money to insult a large percentage of their fans.
2. Gimmicky, Poorly-designed Motion Controls
Blame it on whoever you want- developers or Nintendo itself. It doesn't change the fact that the majority of games for the Wii suck strictly because of the motion controls. To prove it further, Nintendo is set to release the "Motion-Plus," which is basically a repair to a faulty control scheme. With this, entire genres of games are missing from the Wii because Nintendo's dependency on the motion controls. Where are the basketball games, the wrestling games, fighting games?
3. Misleading Marketing about the Virtual Console
When Nintendo first began marketing the Wii before it's release, they said that there would be three games released each week. Not one. Not seven. Three. For the past five weeks, Nintendo has only released one game a week, as they have during other weeks earlier this year. With this, they failed to also mention that the Virtual Console would be devoid of any licensed games (a HUGE portion, including any movie, comic, official sports, etc.) and any other games that happen to be on other consoles or remade on the DS. Many people bought a Wii for the Virtual Console according to the original marketing and many people have been left deeply disappointed.
4. Towering Mountains of Shovelware
Never before in history has a system has so many poorly reviewed games in comparison with quality games. All one must do is stand before the Wii shelves at the local Gamestop. It's laughable. The number of quality games are so few that on the major gaming web site's Top Ten most viewed Wii games, the same games have appeared for a year- Smash Bros., Mario Kart, Wii Fit (is that even a video game?)
5. Weak Hardware
Epic games like Fallout, GTA, Street Fighter 4 will never see the light of day on the Wii. As reported by Capcom, the Wii "can't handle Resident Evil 5's Title Screen." Remember that commercial with the ditzy, skinny blonde chic representing the Wii and the fat girl as the PS3? Ironic, isn't it? Yeah, the Wii is a toy. A pea-brained, irritating, disappointing toy.
6. Fluff
Wii-motes, nunchuks, Classic Controllers, Motion Plus add-ons, steering wheels, spatulas...Spatulas?!
7. Most of the "Good Games" aren't even that Good.
Zelda: TP sucked. The graphics were horrible and it brought nothing novel or original to the series.
Super Paper Mario was one of the biggest abominations to a video game series in history. They took the one aspect that made Paper Mario fun and original- the turn-based combat on a stage with crowd appeal and sacrificed it for a gimmicky motion-controlled nothing that was more irritating than anything. Horrible, just horrible.
Metroid Prime 3: Pure rehash.
Mario Kart: More rehash with gimmicky controls.
Animal Crossing: Almost an exact clone of its predecessor.
I've been playing video games for twenty years. I have bought almost all the major consoles during that time. I was a die-hard fan of Nintendo and defended them during the N64 days when everyone was jumping on the PS CD wagon. I have never experienced more disapointment in video gaming than I have with the Nintendo Wii. It's a peice of crap from top to bottom.
I'm answer back to your Nintendo calling people geeks. First off, they didn't say a damn thing about memory space. They said the system was not mean't for hardcore gamers or gaming. If you believe that classifies you as a geek, thats your own problem. They didn't call you one. You did. Secondly. You're right. Wii owners will never play any high end graphic games. But then, neither will I or other gamers who were burned by both Microsoft and Sony for being sold defective hardware that one company refuses to believe even exsists and the other claims they fixed the problem. I work in retail, and people STILL to do this day are still having 360's break down. Didn't you fix the issue MS??? As for Sony, why the hell should I keep my reciept for a year JUST IN CASE my system will breakdown. MS doesn't make you hang on to it. Its as if Sony KNEW they had a pile of crap in a box. Yet, oh no...are hardware is flawless. My wii, which I've had since the release, works just like it did when I bought it. Imagine that... As for motion controls issues. Ive never had a problem playing any game with the motion controls. I can whoop ass at mario cart with the wheel. IF you did, perhaps you set your system up wrong. Its not hard. You click on the button that says "Sensor bar is above my tv" or the one that says " Its below my tv". And presto change-o the controls work.
Wii has been a big fad all along....bobcheeseballA fad thats been going on for 2+ years? Pft.
I'm answer back to your Nintendo calling people geeks. First off, they didn't say a damn thing about memory space. They said the system was not mean't for hardcore gamers or gaming. If you believe that cla-ssifies you as a geek, thats your own problem. They didn't call you one. You did.
Yes they did.
Secondly. You're right. Wii owners will never play any high end graphic games. But then, neither will I or other gamers who were burned by both Microsoft and Sony for being sold defective hardware that one company refuses to believe even exsists and the other claims they fixed the problem. I work in retail, and people STILL to do this day are still having 360's break down. Didn't you fix the issue MS??? As for Sony, why the hell should I keep my reciept for a year JUST IN CASE my system will breakdown. MS doesn't make you hang on to it. Its as if Sony KNEW they had a pile of crap in a box. Yet, oh no...are hardware is flawless. My wii, which I've had since the release, works just like it did when I bought it. Imagine that...
Well I'm sorry you had to suffer through these things but the vast majority of PS3 owners and many Xbox 360 owners haven't had to suffer through what you did.
As for motion controls issues. Ive never had a problem playing any game with the motion controls. I can whoop ass at mario cart with the wheel. IF you did, perhaps you set your system up wrong. Its not hard. You click on the button that says "Sensor bar is above my tv" or the one that says " Its below my tv". And presto change-o the controls work.
That only has to do with the pointer itself. The motion controls are not defined by the sensor bar placement.
And it may shock you, but many people, myself included, would rather not use the Wii remote's motion controls for games. As far as the Wii motion plus attachment, that was essentially Nintendo's blatant admission that they didn't get it right the first time and now have to release this add-on attachment to achieve the true 1:1 motion controls they boasted about prior to the Wii's launch.
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I'm answer back to your Nintendo calling people geeks. First off, they didn't say a damn thing about memory space. They said the system was not mean't for hardcore gamers or gaming. If you believe that classifies you as a geek, thats your own problem. They didn't call you one. You did.siefier25
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2008/06/geeks_want_extra_storage
You should probably do a little research before so brazenly throwing your words around, otherwise you look pretty foolish.
Secondly. You're right. Wii owners will never play any high end graphic games. But then, neither will I or other gamers who were burned by both Microsoft and Sony for being sold defective hardware that one company refuses to believe even exsists and the other claims they fixed the problem. I work in retail, and people STILL to do this day are still having 360's break down. Didn't you fix the issue MS??? As for Sony, why the hell should I keep my reciept for a year JUST IN CASE my system will breakdown. MS doesn't make you hang on to it. Its as if Sony KNEW they had a pile of crap in a box. Yet, oh no...are hardware is flawless. My wii, which I've had since the release, works just like it did when I bought it. Imagine that... siefier25
I'd rather have a system that gives me a reason to play, than a system that doesn't regardless of hardware issues. BYW, I've had my 360 since launch and have never had a problem. Also, I could argue that although the Wii doesn't technically "break down" as much as the 360 and PS3, it cetainly isn't without hardware problems, most of which stem from horrible decisions made by Nintendo including tiny memory capacity and a control scheme that is more trouble than its worth.
As for motion controls issues. Ive never had a problem playing any game with the motion controls. I can whoop ass at mario cart with the wheel. IF you did, perhaps you set your system up wrong. Its not hard. You click on the button that says "Sensor bar is above my tv" or the one that says " Its below my tv". And presto change-o the controls work.siefier25
I'm obviously not talking about having the sensor bar set up correctly. I'm talking about the ountless negative reviews for 90% of Wii games on gamespot and ign that all cite the motion controls not working well for the game. Sorry, but your one-game-example in which they actually got the controls to work doesn't hold much water against that.
Your missing the point. The wii is inferior in terms of software quality than it's competitors.[QUOTE="insanejedi"][QUOTE="Haziqonfire"] Thats their fault for looking at the bad and not the good ones then :|.789shadow
Ouch,the same BS crap hermits use against console games.
There is some truth to it.
For example Medal of Honor: Allied Assault(pc) and Medal of Honor: Frontlines(consoles). Frontlines came out after Allied Assault. Frontlines wasn't nearly as good as Allied Assault which can be the result due to hardware limations. The maps weren't as big as MOH:AA, the draw distances were short, there were only few A.I.s on screen, and the A.I. weren't as smart as AA.
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