This is why PC > Consoles

While I do care about graphics, it's also about the exclusives, and I prefer more of them on consoles. The PC has more AAA and AA of course, but I don't find them as interesting as consoles, it's all preference. I buy a lot of multiplats on PC though, I have some multiplats on the 360, 2 for PS3 and none for the Wii.mitu123

ok. like i said exclusive and liking the games on either platform is a legit reason.

my whole point was your or whoevers mention that consoles are more convenient especially in terms of upgrading is wrong

[QUOTE="mitu123"]While I do care about graphics, it's also about the exclusives, and I prefer more of them on consoles. The PC has more AAA and AA of course, but I don't find them as interesting as consoles, it's all preference. I buy a lot of multiplats on PC though, I have some multiplats on the 360, 2 for PS3 and none for the Wii.washd123

ok. like i said exclusive and liking the games on either platform is a legit reason.

my whole point was your or whoevers mention that consoles are more convenient especially in terms of upgrading is wrong

Yeah, well, I got carried away there and over exaggerated a bit. I knew I shouldn't had started this, oh well, at least you told me off. It's probably like this for most console gamers.mitu123

im not telling you off or trying to make you game on a pc. i was merely pointing out an inconsistancy in most console gamers logic.

PC gaming = pirate GAMING

S3P4eeever

Hey, its cheaper than console :D I do not openly support it though at all. Nah, I just love emulating console games on pc.

[QUOTE="mitu123"] Yeah, well, I got carried away there and over exaggerated a bit. I knew I shouldn't had started this, oh well, at least you told me off. It's probably like this for most console gamers.washd123

im not telling you off or trying to make you game on a pc. i was merely pointing out an inconsistancy in most console gamers logic.

[QUOTE="Rec-neps"]

[QUOTE="Deadly_Fatalis"] Well technically the pc could play games from the PS2 era down, but I'm pretty sure were not allowed to talk about it. washd123

You can pretty much play any console game on your computer, just have to know what to do and I highly doubt its legal.

if you own the game its legal

Put it this way. Why didn't the XBox play PS1 games? Barring horsepower and technical limitations, why didin't the 360 try to emulate PS2 games?

[QUOTE="dakan45"][QUOTE="TheElfChild"]

http://www.direct2drive.com/d2dturns5

Better graphics, better game prices.

Bebi_vegeta

I have great performance,no bugs, and drm is overated... awesome!

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"]am I missing something or can all PCs play crysis? Why can't people just understand that people find console gaming more convenient?SilverChimera

all gaming pcs within this gen can yea. you cant compare a normal pc to a console thats like comparing a normal blu-ray player to a ps3.

thinking its more convienent and it actually being so are two different things. personally i find the pc much much much more convienent than a console.

people who talk about convience then mention upgrading all the time again are just buying into a stupid myth and choosing to be ignorant

[QUOTE="mitu123"]] Of course no one is forcing me, but if I want to run the latest games, I need to upgrade, and I would want to play games on higher settings to take advantage of the hardware I brought. washd123

if you want to run the latest games you have to get a new console. that ps2 isnt going to be running mgs4 anytime soon.

theres no difference.

PS. By "decently," I mean at around 720p resolution with low to medium settings. PC games are getting more demanding in areas beyond graphics (like numbers of units in play at once).

But the consoles have long legs. Buy a PS3 in 2006, and you're pretty much set for 5-10 years without anything else out of pocket except the cost of the games themselves. Buy a PC in 2006, and I doubt it'd be able to do Crysis decently, and what about these upcoming games that are pretty much demanding a quad-core just to play decently?HuusAsking

] Of course no one is forcing me, but if I want to run the latest games, I need to upgrade, and I would want to play games on higher settings to take advantage of the hardware I brought. mitu123

if you want to run the latest games you have to get a new console. that ps2 isnt going to be running mgs4 anytime soon.

theres no difference.

http://www.direct2drive.com/d2dturns5

Better graphics, better game prices.

TheElfChild

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

better hardware doesnt = better games and that's what everyone specifically cows and herms have forgot. Just cause its a pc and has the latest tec in it doesnt mean its game are better.

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

shakmaster13

better hardware doesnt = better games and that's what everyone specifically cows and herms have forgot. Just cause its a pc and has the latest tec in it doesnt mean its game are better.

BlackTragedy

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

HuusAsking

better hardware doesnt = better games and that's what everyone specifically cows and herms have forgot. Just cause its a pc and has the latest tec in it doesnt mean its game are better.

BlackTragedy

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

shakmaster13

pc = must have pc hardware knowledge to built or risk spending lots of cash on a rebuild. i could argue my ps3 can play a backlog of all ps2 and ps1 games

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

better hardware doesnt = better games and that's what everyone specifically cows and herms have forgot. Just cause its a pc and has the latest tec in it doesnt mean its game are better.

HuusAsking

The fact that it's an open platform attracts WAY more devs, which means way more games for the PC. Some are bound to be good.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

BlackTragedy

pc = must have pc hardware knowledge to built or risk spending lots of cash on a rebuild. i could argue my ps3 can play a backlog of all ps2 and ps1 games

Not really. If you can figure out the confusing PS3 settings menu you can own a PC. And keep in mind that the PC had more quality titles than all the three systems last gen, so you get to play much more quality titles.

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

shakmaster13

pc = must have pc hardware knowledge to built or risk spending lots of cash on a rebuild. i could argue my ps3 can play a backlog of all ps2 and ps1 games

Not really. If you can figure out the confusing PS3 settings menu you can own a PC. And keep in mind that the PC had more quality titles than all the three systems last gen, so you get to play much more quality titles.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

HuusAsking

If the PC's CPU is powerful enough, one can play DX8 games on VirtualBox via Swiftshader2.0.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

ronvalencia

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

[QUOTE="BlackTragedy"]

pc = must have pc hardware knowledge to built or risk spending lots of cash on a rebuild. i could argue my ps3 can play a backlog of all ps2 and ps1 games

HuusAsking

Not really. If you can figure out the confusing PS3 settings menu you can own a PC. And keep in mind that the PC had more quality titles than all the three systems last gen, so you get to play much more quality titles.

I agree that there has been a lack of JRPG's on PC , but that goes for all systems this gen. The lack of JRPG's comes because most devs are turning to WRPG's because they are not as technology restricted as they once were. The only reason JRPG's came before WRPG's was because it wasn't possible to make WRPG's at the time. Today, most RPG games realeased are WRPG's and the PC is the number one platform for them.

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"][QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But the old games take work to play, and the ones from the Win9X generation are among the toughest--too demanding to be emulated and not sophisticated enough to be virtualized (since 3D virtualization for the most part doesn't work below the XP generation). HuusAsking

Theres something called compatibility mode. It doesn't work for all games, but it does for most.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]

[QUOTE="ronvalencia"] If the PC's CPU powerful enough, one can play DX8 games on VirtualBox via Swiftshader2.0. shakmaster13

Theres something called compatibility mode. It doesn't work for all games, but it does for most.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]What about pre-DX8? What if the game you're interested in only uses DX5, DX3, or even DX2? Anyway, I have a powerful GPU under the hood--I'd like to be able to take advantage of it even with my old games--it's just that no one's interested in extending the 3D virtualization that far back.

HuusAsking

Theres something called compatibility mode. It doesn't work for all games, but it does for most.

I really don't believe anything you're saying. I think you're making it all up just to make your argument valid. However, if you are telling the truth, then you have a very focused problem that hardly anybody else has which is why it hasn't been addressed.

Bottom line is PC has the biggest variety of games, the most highly rated games, and the most exclusives. There is no arguing that and ultimately that is why there are more PC gamers than anything else.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="dakan45"] bad perfomance and optiomazation for slightly better graphics, more bugs and problems and drm and install limits crap.HuusAsking

I have great performance,no bugs, and drm is overated... awesome!

I never sell games... What happens if I want to play that game again... so I don't sell it.

[QUOTE="SilverChimera"][QUOTE="washd123"]

all gaming pcs within this gen can yea. you cant compare a normal pc to a console thats like comparing a normal blu-ray player to a ps3.

thinking its more convienent and it actually being so are two different things. personally i find the pc much much much more convienent than a console.

people who talk about convience then mention upgrading all the time again are just buying into a stupid myth and choosing to be ignorant

HuusAsking

You can still keep alot of parts, like the case, PSU, DVD, Microsoft windows... so it's still cheaper then buying a complete setup

[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="mitu123"]] Of course no one is forcing me, but if I want to run the latest games, I need to upgrade, and I would want to play games on higher settings to take advantage of the hardware I brought. HuusAsking

if you want to run the latest games you have to get a new console. that ps2 isnt going to be running mgs4 anytime soon.

theres no difference.

PS. By "decently," I mean at around 720p resolution with low to medium settings. PC games are getting more demanding in areas beyond graphics (like numbers of units in play at once).

A good PC from 2006 will still be able to play 720p low-medium.

PC games evolve constanly, console games stay on the same level until next gen.

[QUOTE="shakmaster13"]

All three consoles combined have 13 AAAE. The PC has 12 AAAE and far more AAE than all the consoles combined. That is this gen alone, not to mention the huge back catalog of games on the PC. PC gets more games, has better graphics, costs less than consoles in the long run, has mods, has more free dlc, etc etc. PC owns.

HuusAsking

It's still better then no BC from certain consoles.

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But the consoles have long legs. Buy a PS3 in 2006, and you're pretty much set for 5-10 years without anything else out of pocket except the cost of the games themselves. Buy a PC in 2006, and I doubt it'd be able to do Crysis decently, and what about these upcoming games that are pretty much demanding a quad-core just to play decently?Vandalvideo

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="SilverChimera"] Most people that I know don't buy new PCs. They upgrade their old ones. Maybe his old PC can't run extremely high end games and he doesn't want to upgrade it. And I respect that you prefer PC gaming. Consoles just suit me (and others) better.Bebi_vegeta

You can still keep alot of parts, like the case, PSU, DVD, Microsoft windows... so it's still cheaper then buying a complete setup

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But what about dead-end PCs that can't be upgraded because their hardware's too out of date?HuusAsking

You can still keep alot of parts, like the case, PSU, DVD, Microsoft windows... so it's still cheaper then buying a complete setup

You're just assuming everythin aren't you?

Why would the PSU be underpowerd?

DVD drive laser geting spotty... best to upgrade blu ray... hahahhah euhhh what!!!!?!?!?!?!?

Oh, so now you even need windows 7....why is that?

Wow, common... get some better arguments.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]But what about dead-end PCs that can't be upgraded because their hardware's too out of date?HuusAsking

You can still keep alot of parts, like the case, PSU, DVD, Microsoft windows... so it's still cheaper then buying a complete setup

There's no good reason for not owning a gaming rig.

There's no good reason for not owning a gaming rig.

streloksbolt

[QUOTE="streloksbolt"]

There's no good reason for not owning a gaming rig.

bronxxbombers

CONOLES > PC

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S3P4eeever

I wouldn't say that. I have a good computer, but it's too much of a hassle to get games working. You can't just pop them in and play it.

With a console, it'sguaranteed to work right there (Unless your disc is defected or something).

Both definitely have their pro's, and con's.

[QUOTE="S3P4eeever"]

CONOLES > PC

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awssk8er716

I wouldn't say that. I have a good computer, but it's too much of a hassle to get games working. You can't just pop them in and play it.

With a console, it'sguaranteed to work right there (Unless your disc is defected or something).

Both definitely have their pro's, and con's.

I don't even have a disc for my PC games and it works.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]I don't even have a disc for my PC games and it works. /QUOTE] I hope your talking about DD and not piracy :)Vadamee

Yessir, it's called steam!

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"][QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

You can still keep alot of parts, like the case, PSU, DVD, Microsoft windows... so it's still cheaper then buying a complete setup

Bebi_vegeta

You're just assuming everythin aren't you?

Why would the PSU be underpowerd?

DVD drive laser geting spotty... best to upgrade blu ray... hahahhah euhhh what!!!!?!?!?!?!?

Oh, so now you even need windows 7....why is that?

Wow, common... get some better arguments.

[QUOTE="Bebi_vegeta"]

[QUOTE="HuusAsking"]The PSU will likely be underpowered for a modern rig, the DVD drive's laser is probably getting spotty (best to upgrade to a BluRay--they're about $100 now), and you'll probably need Windows 7 going in, since devs are more interested in it and it has more mass-market uptake.HuusAsking

You're just assuming everythin aren't you?

Why would the PSU be underpowerd?

DVD drive laser geting spotty... best to upgrade blu ray... hahahhah euhhh what!!!!?!?!?!?!?

Oh, so now you even need windows 7....why is that?

Wow, common... get some better arguments.

400W is fine today. :| Wattage is seriously overrated. The quality of the PSU is what matters the most.

the pc wins in everything.

1) can play system games through emulation

2) can use any controller ( if you dont like keyboard)

3) better graphics. (updated technology, drivers, cards) its obvious the system tech gets old while the pc gets newer and newer.

4) Free internet

5) cheaper games.

However some do not like the pc gaming exp, i like it but i play my ps3 alot more than the pc.

But im not afraid to admit that (pc) beats it.

thread should really be closed.

CONOLES > PC

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awssk8er716

Isnt that an Italian food?

Food > PC.

[QUOTE="awssk8er716"]

CONOLES > PC

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Trmpt

Isnt that an Italian food?

Food > PC.